LAGAMISOC In reply to Garathaan [2006-06-05 21:58:35 +0000 UTC]

^_^ We would love to have you as a member. Just please add us to your watch list and note the club, just for secretarial reasons. Consider yourself added!

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sorceressnymph In reply to LairdOfTimes [2006-05-06 03:56:38 +0000 UTC]

Note of the list of Chivalry and its rules: (I am not bashing it, nor trying to argue, furthest from it, in fact ^^)

Is it really possible to do many of those things in this day and age and still uphold the ideals, though somewhat contorted they are, of a democracy? Granted, there is no such thing as a true democracy, that in itself is inachievable. But we do take into consideration the rules of chivalry. While it is rather difficult to commit acts noticeable on the Internet, there are many members who I see in "real life" that uphold as many of the rules of Chivalry as possible in this society...specifically those in regards to the Crown and the King.

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LairdOfTimes In reply to sorceressnymph [2006-05-06 05:33:58 +0000 UTC]

To answer your question, you must see the latest Antonio Banderas movie, "Take the Lead"! In it you have a dance instructor that teaches ballroom dancing to inner-city, troubled high school rapper-styled kids. The teacher holds doors open for women, stands in the presence of women, holds chairs while women sit down, uses manners and courtesy at all times, defends the weak, etc. With today's morales, he seems entirely out of place with the trash-talking, rude, me-fiirst/screw you bunch of kids and adults he has to deal with. However, he demonstrates that his manners, chivalry, and code of ethics comes from a self-understood base of power that is unshakeable. I attend a lot of Rennaisance Fares and Medieval Festivals. Thse mores are not only practiced, but expected, and frowned upon if not done so. These habits carry over into our real life and we do not feel subserviant to anyone for being nice to them.

Corda Serrata Pando,


Chief MacPolk

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sorceressnymph In reply to LairdOfTimes [2006-05-06 22:09:01 +0000 UTC]

True. But we do have to take into consideration that that is a movie, and the sad truth is that there aren't that many people in this world, though there really should be, who are chivalrous.
And there are a lot of women out there that, since achieving more equal rights, don't view a lot of the chivalrous acts as respect, but as a means of demeaning them.

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SwordOfScotland In reply to sorceressnymph [2006-05-07 14:52:17 +0000 UTC]

You make a good point in that there are groups and a class of people who take offense to one being kind, courteous, and chivalrous. I agree, also, that there are a lot of people who cower and secumb to the stigmatism of the lables of these groups. However, a truly chivalrous person will stand courageous and stick to his/her convictions in the face of unpopular adversity. You will find for every one person who stands up to the face of adversity that there are ten in the shadows who want to come out and do the same. "Fortune favors the bold!"-Quote (unknown)

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Jadeling In reply to SwordOfScotland [2006-05-07 23:59:27 +0000 UTC]

Very well put.
I believe that chivalry, as it is written and as it was meant to be, is not as 'outdated' as many people claim. True, some women (and men) claim it is 'demeaning,' but I disagree with this notion. I have already stated my opinion that chivalry is the highest form of respect that any one person can show to any other, and I stick to this claim.
Both :devLairdOfTime: and ~SwordOfScotland have, I feel, summed up about everything that needs to be said. ^^ Thank you both.

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SwordOfScotland In reply to Jadeling [2006-05-08 02:32:32 +0000 UTC]

M'Lady.

We thank thee for thy compliment, and consider it our duty.

Sword of Scotland
Laird of Times

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