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Examples of Constructive Comments [^ ]
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6-7 Lines or 200 Words Minimum*
7+ Lines or 300 Words Minimum*
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Ah, just getting around to reading this! I'm excited to get started when I have some spare time \ o /
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Sounds awesome! Take all the time you need.
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This sounds great, I think i´m gonna try it these days.
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So I read the literature section. I know it said members won't comment on longer than two pages, but I was wondering if that was a basic guideline to not expect people to read more or was it a flat out refusal to accept longer works?
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It was a basic guideline to not expect people to read more. Some of our members might, some might not. Ultimately, we'll accept your work if the basic requirements are met (you give a 200-word minimum comment).
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I was wondering, what are your standards for appropriate art here? Are we allowed to submit art with blood/violence ect. as long as we keep the Mature filter up (I'd assume there are some younger deviants on here so I'm wondering if it's allowed)?
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Yes, we accept all art - as long as it is acceptable on DeviantArt, we accept it too.
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Ah, alright good to know! 
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Thank you for the invitation to join your group. I look forward to providing a lot of constructive commentary to my fellow deviants!
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Hello,
I recently joined this group and I really love to comment on other deviants' pieces because I can learn a lot from that by analyzing their pictures. I mostly comment on pictures I like a lot so I usually tell mostly good things about the picture and that's why I'm afraid my comments aren't balanced enough. What could I do about that?
And I'm always afraid I'm not in a position to give improvement advice as I'm not that good at drawing myself and I'm also afraid I might say something insulting because my English is not very good. Besides I always use the same vocabulary to describe things and I want to be more specific because every piece of art is unique and very specific as well, right? Do you have any recommandations how I could manage this?
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Hey there,
It makes sense to comment on things you like, things you are familiar with, if only so that commenting doesn't become a chore. As a group, we do believe you can be constructive with just 'praise' - here's an article that may help with that:
Commenting Workshop #6 - PraiseProjectComment is a Group that provides Guaranteed & Constructive comments for the DeviantArt community. By discussing what makes a great constructive comment, we aim to support the awesome commenters out there through a workshop where, twice a month, we will be conquering the challenge of commenting.
Welcome to our sixth commenting workshop on praise!
Some artists are like, really really good. So good that the only reaction we can muster is often:
"Your art is perfect, beautiful and flawless and I love you."
While this is really nice to say and to read, it doesn't fall cleanly, if at all, within the definition of a 'constructive comment' that we try to encourage and foster in ProjectComment and the DeviantArt community.
The main question that arises from this is: What is there left to say?
After all, if we see something that we think is perfect or flawless, how can we say anything to make it better? Do we have to nitpick? Do we ha
As for your other fear, it is one felt by many. We have also addressed this in a few articles, which you can find here:
Comment Support #1.2 - Lack of Artistic ExperienceProjectComment formed Comment Support Group to help people with their commenting. To be utterly honest, we can't improve your commenting skills for you, but we can help you improve if you want to improve.
We are here to foster a group where commenters feel safe, where commenters feel they have the right to share their thoughts, feelings, and more about commenting; where you, commenters, have the opportunity to open up, seek advice and get the support you deserve.
We are here to encourage you to share, discuss and, most of all, challenge yourselves. Improvement won't happen overnight, but if you take baby steps with us - one day, one week, one piece, one deviation at a time - we hope you will become the commenter you desire to be.
Should I provide a constructive comment if I don't have artistic experience/skills in this field?
You can find the first two articles of the session “Lack of Artistic Experience” below
Feel free to respond to any of the Comment Support Group articles. The Project Managers there would be more than happy to go into detail on the topic after you've read our thoughts.
We also have this that may help you create different kinds of comments:
Constructive Commenting: Guiding QuestionsProjectComment believes every single person on DeviantArt can write a constructive comment, but constructive commenting is not necessarily easy for us. That is why we have produced this article of questions, written with the intention to guide you in your constructive commenting should you need additional support.
Take note that the following should be used as a guide and basic foundation for your comment, not to be used or interpreted as a checklist or minimum required by ProjectComment. The below should help you expand upon your own comment, as we do not accept comments that are itemized lists. What is a Constructive Comment?
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Visual Arts
Let me know if that helps, and if there is anything else.
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Thank you so much, I will read the articles as soon as possible.
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I have a suggestion for consideration to add to the verbiage here. In observing a variety of works over time and people looking for critique many times work is presented with a request for feedback, but many times an individual does not provide much context for the help they are looking for at all. As pointed earlier in this entry trying to tailor feedback for the art and individual is certainly important. In one work someone might point out unrealistic body proportions of a character, but that is the intent of the artist. However, they instead needed advice say towards coloring and shading that they did want to be realistic in appearance. This situation might be misunderstood since the artist seeking assistance did not provide some context for the work.
As such I think it would be useful to support the notion of an individual seeking assistance for critique and feedback to additionally provide some amount of context for the help they might wish to receive. This better helps other individuals to take a look over a piece and be able to focus on those things perhaps with the experience they have had or be the extra pair of eyes evaluating something that the artist themselves might have overlooked.
Certainly critiques should not ignore the possibility of exploring all possibilities, but this is all towards helping the artist be able to better focus themselves into areas of improvement.
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How would this be done?
ProjectComment cannot force people to add further context. At the most, we have projects like Quick Comments , where people specifically state what they're looking for.
As a commenter, you are free to ask the artist questions on what they're looking for in terms of feedback, though I would say most artists don't know. It's why a lot of them ask for feedback in the first place - they don't know what they're missing, what they can improve on, etc.
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Well, the how is in sharing the idea and there are many ways that can be done.
The first of which is what you mentioned about in asking the artist questions. When presented with a piece for critique without any focus at all what can be said is incredibly open ended with some parts being appropriate feedback for the artist and others being unhelpful. In which case, I might reply back saying, "I do not know what your goals are as an artist, but judging from your other pieces I believe you are aiming for *insert goal* and here is what I can suggest..." Eventually stating near the end, "What do you feel is the goal you have in mind and where do you feel you might not be doing well in?" This example is trying to provide the artist with a direction. A clear point towards improvement that is specific to themselves and the objectives they wish to strive for. When that information is relayed to others it can better assist the artist in getting the feedback they would want or need. Now, this is about the only approach I myself can attempt on a regular basis.
Another method is exampled by what I am doing here in this comment section. I am attempt to explain this idea to others and see that they agree with the idea and might use it themselves and say try to ask the artist questions to better help give them direction. No one is being forced certainly, but the idea is being encouraged to other individuals to utilize as part of handling critiques. This method is exactly what is being done with ProjectComment. A mindset or set of ideas are behind ProjectComment and they are being shared with others with the intent that they might share in the ideas as well and it grows.
In any case, that is what I feel is worth including is trying to make a conversation of sorts with the artist in asking that question or they themselves being able to help articulate themselves ahead of time and internalize an answer at times for the question of "Where do I need to improve?" Maybe its not a good approach or perhaps should be critiqued in its own way, but I will leave this idea alone for now and I can simply incorporate it on my own. I mainly wanted to present the idea as a suggestion for inclusion with some of the other ideas present in this information though that is not for me to decide. There are good ideas and there are bad ideas and you run them by others for refinement.
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There are advantages and disadvantages with critiquing being open-ended. It is difficult to say whether feedback is appropriate or helpful for the artist without them saying so from their point of view.
Certainly, the relationship between critic and artist is one of guidance, where artist guides critic, and vice versa. It makes sense for the critic to guide the artist, and be guided in turn.
The first approach you mention is self-directed, and the group is not involved there. You are more than welcome to strike up a conversation with an artist, but, once again, the group cannot faciliate conversation between two people. Rather, it takes one person to seize initiative and the other person to continue.
The group could help in asking artists to ask questions, but not everyone is comfortable with that. The majority don't want to pigeon-hole any comments they may receive, especially as a critic may point out something an artist never considered.
For me, it seems obvious that if a person wanted answers, they'd ask questions. Thus, those that don't ask questions do so for a reason. Many people find it difficult to articulate themselves as it is from the critic's point of view, let alone from an artist's point of view about their own art. As already stated, many members don't know where to improve, how to improve, why they should improve, etc. That is why they'd like to receive constructive comments.
We have Quick Comments . That is the best we can do.
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I comment on my phone. Unless I miss some info regarding commenting on phone, would you give me information about it? Like, for 6 lines comment is equivalent to how many lines on phone
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~Interesting... I'll give it a go and once I tried it I'll tell ya my opinion. Just saying, this may take a while so get comfy XD~
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Sure - that makes sense.
No rush with anything!
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I always found this group great and interesting. I don't have any deviation (so I will get nothing in return), but I'm still gonna join so I can find artists in need of feedbacks and improve my own comments. Keep up to work on this lovely group!
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That's pretty awesome of you! Thank you so much for your support!
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Thanks! You're welcome! I'm really interested in improving my comments (I do long comments but not often), and your guide helped me a lot!
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That's awesome to hear! We do try our best to make it so!
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So, if I want to get 2 comments, I must give comment on 2 arts which be in give and get 2 comments?
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It can be from any of these folders:
Main thing to note is that 6-7 lines is 200 words minimum, or 300 words minimum for 7+ lines.
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But how about the category? I should comments on digital art to submit digital art, too?
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No, you can comment on whatever you like within the folders linked.
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Let me know if there is anything else.
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I think I've got the basic gist of it now. Can't say I've got a professional eye for finding faults in art, but I can do my best. Biggest danger now is that they won't like the constructive criticism. I can deal with that.
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We foster an environment where constructive comments are accepted... that said, it does depend on how you phrase the comment.
Let me know if there is anything!
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Ace.
(sorry, I'm Australian, ace means great, excellent)
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thank you for taking your time to run a very helpful service like this
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This is really a wonderful group. Thanks for inviting me.
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