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Art trade withIf you don't recognize the two girls in the middle and right of the pic, you must be pretty darn young! The one in pink is Samus in the Justin Bailey suit from NES' Metroid, and the other is the Zero Fusion suit from Metroid Fusion, although she looks almost identical to the one she used in Super Metroid as well
I'm feeling like a caption contest, so, the person who makes a caption for this pic that makes me laugh REAL hard, will win... FRIENDSHIP POINTS!
lol, nah, what the heck, they'll win a free Metroid-related request, just be warned, I handle a very dark/misogynistic and even racist humor, so, keep that in your creative mind!So, I guess it's no secret that I hate Metroid: Other M ( [link] and [link] ), and everything else that Nintendo is coming up nowadays, but I've been thinking about Samus' downfall, and I think I'm coming up with a conclusion:
Now, while it's easy to blame Team Ninja for Other M's suckiness, or maybe you even think that it was the best Metroid game ever 'cause you hadn't been born 20 years ago, I don't care, Metroid Other M is the least well-received Metroid console title, and there's no amount of optimism nor fandom that can change that fact
Anyway, back to the matter at hand, I think the Zero Suit has played a big role in Samus' decline, now, while a part of me, let's call it, my "man side" loves the suit, and I would lie if I didn't find Samus hot as fuck with it, another part of me, let's call it "logical side" tells me that the suit is only effective in one thing: SELLING, and as a designer, my logic tells me that that suit isn't even original, it's just a sleeved and legged swimsuit from those Japanese schools!
Anyway, since the introduction of this suit, and persistence in cutscenes that end conveniently in showing off Samus' ass, I agree that Samus has been humanized more, or better said, WOMANIZED, since, in the past, we needed to finish the game to be reminded that Samus was a vagina, and if we finished it REALLY fast, then we wouldn't have any doubt about it!
but my point is, that in the past, we used to aspire to look at a Metroid game's ending, with Other M, we couldn't care less as long as there were cutscenes with Samus showing off her tits and ass every chance they got!And so, this new feature (Zero Suit), made it easy to insert all kinds of girly emotions further portraying her as what she is: a girl.
However, this is where I draw the line, while Sammie is free to be all the girly she wants, she still has a RESPONSIBILITY as a bounty hunter, her mission takes priority, that doesn't mean she can't be human, but still, in the past, she HAD been able to help those in need while keeping her head cool so she wouldn't endanger her mission (in Super Metroid, saving the animals at the end on her way out).
Also, thanks to the Zero Suit, Samus' bodily proportions have been vastly exaggerated, in both Other M and Brawl she has more bubble than a frickin' Playmate! Also, the newly-grown-out-of-nowhere beauty mark next to her mouth was just the insult over injury to poor Sammie's physique, I mean, there's not reason for a bounty hunter not being pretty, but Samus looks like a frickin' MODEL, the Zero Suits even has high-heels for fucking out loud! You wanna see a more realistic bounty hunter? Google Rally Vincent from Gunsmith Cats sure she got sexualized in later issues, but at the beginning she had some pretty average measures and looked pretty and was still badass! You want more realistic? Watch Domino film, or heck, search a pic of the REAL her, she isn't anything like the modern Samus super-model stereotype!
Anyway, I digress, hope you enjoyed the pic, and I'm always more than eager to discuss my opinion on Other M, though, be wary, that in my arguments, nobody wins, apparently
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well, after Atari there was a depression that nearly ended the industry, Nintendo's NES bailed it all back out.
i'm not entirely sure they were trying a "mature" approach to Star fox at least not seriously, Metroid's the only series i've seen that they really tried a serious mature take on, if nothing else Nintendo's proven they can do violence, or need i bring up crocomire?
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Croc-who?
Anyway, maybe Star Fox isn't really mature on "violence and/or sex" but it's leagues more mature than Mario/Zelda games, in assault, Crystal is seen clearly flirting with Fox (on top of her wearing her very own uber-sexualized armor), in Command, in the characters' endings, most of the team has had their own kids, which means, these little cute animals, actually fucked each other at some point. Also, back to Assault, in by the last missions, we see a lot of characters "die" (some come back, though), but still, exploring the mortality of cute animal characters is not entirely something you'd want young kids to start dwelling on, I consider this kind of content at least light-mature if anything.
And come on, give some credit to other people besides Nintendo, I know they were a powerful monster back in the day, but don't forget about Sega, sure, they were far from being on par with the Big N, but they carried out a rivalry with it for over a decade, that's gotta count for something, but well, nowadays people just can't get Nintendo out of their asses -_-
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Crocomire, Metroid boss, skin melted off in acid while it thrashs around for a good 2 minutes real time that you have to sit and watch.. then comes after you AGAIN one last time as a skeleton
good point on Star Fox, though i never played command, Assault i saw as more "Disney under the radar maturity", but maybe that's because i'd like to believe kids are as clueless as i was as a kid.
Historically it WAS all nintendo, but that's because Seag was a bit late to the party to count, at least from my understanding, the whole NES era started a little before my time and i barely was a part of it.
of course, the Sega/nintendo rivalry catapaulted things even further, i actually miss those days.
actually, these days it seems people won't shut up about Xbox superiority, it's the worst of the three in my book...
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Hmm, don't remember that boss, ah, I see, it's from Super Metroid, only played that once
Umm, not really, Sega wasn't actually late, they launched their console, the Sega SG-1000 at the same time as the NES, though, I guess it never took off like the Master System 2 years later, and it was still inferior to the NES.
Eh, you've probably just bumped into too many Halo/Cod/GoW multiplayer 12-year olds, I really despise all those games, though, I do own a 360, and I acknowledge the PS3 is technologically superior, I choose the 360 because its games suit me more, but I actually regard both the 360 and PS3 as equals, I don't have anything against Sony fans, actually, I used to swear by the PS2, because it had an outstanding wide variety of games, but sadly, the PS3 is nothing like that
Now, the Wii.. I don't even consider it a gaming console, it's just a joke, a bad one, it's just that Nintendo now is focusing so much on being "innovative" with these needless motion-control/touch screen gimmicks, that they've forgotten almost all about what they do: just make goddamn games! I also miss the old days when Nintendo boasted about the power of their consoles, like the SNES and the N64, it had power, and amazing games, now, as I said, all about gimmicks -_- Nintendo has lost the very little respect I had for them.
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i love the Wii for all it's potetial but that's just it, so much potential that never happened, so many of what would ahve been it's better titles are being pushed back to they can be released for WiiU instead.. i think Nintendo's just a little shell-socked cause noone liked the gamecube despite it being a perfectly good console, i'm sure they'll bounce back eventually as they've proven they can still do really well when they feel like it (Kid Icarus: Uprising.)
as for the Xbox 360, it's horrible, fee for inferior online play for the same games as the PS3, annoying community, cheap mics that always break within a year in the same exact manner, almost all xbox exclusive games are 1st person shooters and the like, overall it's the only game system i actually regret buying (and i own a Wii)
compare to the PS3, same wire, same connection, yet far less lag, free online play and far less annoyances with idiots despite the lack of communication.
To be honest, i'd like to see Sega release another system, the dream cast was really good even though noone liked it for some reason. but i'll settle for waiting for Nintendo to wake up and get back in gear.
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Well, as I hear, the reason why they charge for Xbox Live is so they can keep a good internet security, unlike Playstation Network, that got hacked once, and all its customers had to cancel their credits as Sony didn't even have their data encrypted -_-, or even the Wii U hacked on day 1, anyway, yes, it is still too pricy, that's why I don't have it, I don't care how many special offers Microsoft throws at me, I won't pay for playing a game that I already PAID for, though, once they made me an offer of 2 months for $2 bucks, that wasn't so bad, I guess...
Fortunately, my favorite games aren't online, so it's not such a big loss for me, I don't chat nor talk while playing either, I'm not that good at multitasking, so my headset is good as new
I really love the Dreamcast, every time I look at it, it brings me such good memories, there's no other console that has that effect on me, the controllers were probably the best I have ever tried, the VMU memory was also a good idea going on (but with very little battery life 
Actually, I don't think Nintendo will ever redeem themselves, after the poor reception the Wii U got, I think it will be Nintendo's Dreamcast, last console, though, Nintendo still leads in the portable industry (though I despise the DS), and also, well, it's still too soon and there are more games to see for the Wii U to make a better judgement, even the Wii received mixed reception at its launch.
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i love talking as i play, but that's about the only comfort.
the dreamcast looked cool, but i never did figure out what that screen in the controller was all about, your feelings on the dreamcast are about my feelings on the SNES
i will admit nintendo seems to be dieing off fast, and that worries me, most of my favorite series are or nearly are nintendo exclusive, they're revisting alot of thier older ideas with new technology (the original attempt at a Wii-mote.. or more accurately box kinect, is a nice little old oddity known as the power glove.), but for all thier innovation they need to deliver some genuinely good games to go with it, the Wii would have been so much better if it had more to sell it than Super Smash Bros. and 2 Legend of Zelda games, though i heard that second Kirby game was decent i'm never touching Epic Yarn because it's an epic fail.
actually, i'm not a huge fan of the DS either, but it ended up being alot better than i originally thought it would be, i suppose the most lilely scenario (which i can live with by the way) is Nintendo quits making main consoles and just sticks to portables. the PSP was pretty good though.
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The Dreamcast's VMU was nice little idea, in most games though, it would show just info or just the title of the game you were playing, but on most Sega games, you could actually have a mini-game or something, like Chao garden on Sonic Adventure which was like a Tamagochi or something, others have shooting mini-games like Skies of Arcadia, etc. and you could take the VMU wherever you wanted, well, as long as the battery would last, and as I mentioned earlier, it wasn't so long
Like I said, Nintendo seems to pour their effort in just being highly "innovative" instead of using it for their games, take the Legend of Zelda (which, by the way, there was only ONE Wii-exclusive game of, as Twilight Princess was for the Game Cube, and more exactly got ported to the Wii for it's silly motion gimmick), sure, they add a new gimmick on each game, but it's essentially the SAME formula, 1. You wake up and learn how to move 2. Something BAD happens 3. You have to do something about it by collecting a bunch of items that you need in order to advance in dungeons 4. you fight the SAME guy you've fought over a dozen times (well, not ALWAYS the same guy, but 98% of the time it will be Ganon) 5. You save the same stupid princess that keeps being kidnapped, THE END.
Mario games have almost the SAME plot as Zelda, only a new gimmick, but I'll admit that Mario Galaxy WAS good, so I don't understand why they keep making PLATFORM Mario games, I mean, it's like people who get tired of shooting people on first-person shooter games, don't people ever get tired of jumping on platforms?
Ugh, talking about Nintendo makes very grumpy, I really hate Nintendo, so I'd like to just cut talking about them here, if you don't mind U_U
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it's fine. i learned some interesting things, including what the heck that screen was since the only dreamcast i ever played it was alsways dead so yeah, thanks.
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Dear friend, I can only agree with you. The classic Samus was stoic and never showed her emotions. She had to be in order to deal with ther missions swiftly.
In the past, I used to see her as a female space counterpart to the Batman: both being orphans, both being trained by warriors, both using technology against their foes and both inducing fear in their enemies (according to the original Metroid manual if I recall it correctly).
The memories of the death of her Metroid 'daughter' came back to her in Fusion, but she didn't have a breakdown because of that. Similar to the Batman's comments about the death of Jason Todd in The Dark Knight Returns: "Jason was a good soldier. He honored my principles. But the war goes on."
And by the way, the Zero Suit was never mentioned in the original trilogy. Was Samus always meant to conjure the Varia suit out of her strong will?
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Exactly! The Power Suit working out of Samus' will makes no sense! Why would the suit disappear when Samus is emotionally unstable? Isn't that when she needs the suit to protect her the most?
This doesn't even happen in the Prime manga, when Samus suffers a bigger breakdown (though, this was the FIRST time Samus confronted Ridley after he murdered and ate her parents), the Power Suit just got very heavy and Samus couldn't move nor breathe but still protected her from Ridley's consecutive beating, it later vanished but I guess that was Samus' doing after Ridley left and she probably wanted to breathe again.
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Exactly! The Power suit protected her when Ridley pummeled her. That's the reason a bounty hunter (including Boba Fett) wears an armoured suit, right?
Regarding the Power Suit and the Zero Suit: There are many things nowadays which contradict each other in the Metroid-canon.
Like in the death scenes of the original games:
1. Metroid and Metroid II: Return of Samus β When Samusβ Power armour gets damaged too much, it can explode (βgoes up like a supernovaβ) and kill Samus inside it (and many in the vicinity). This was explained in the Captain N-comic. This makes sense.
2. Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion β Same as above, but we players get a glimpse of the killed Samus after her armour is destroyed. This makes sense.
The Zero Suit was never mentioned or even existed in those games!
Apart from the death scenes, there are some other things as well:
Do you remember the intro to Metroid Fusion? The intro where Samus got infected by an X-parasite, got ill and became unconscious? The physicians had to carefully remove the bulk of her Varia Suit in order to remove the infected parts, indirectly creating the βFusion Suitβ. Donβt you think itβs a bit odd if we follow the storyline in Other M? If Samus has to have strong will and concentration in order to conjure her suit, then her suit should have vanished while Samus was unconscious! Then the doctors didnβt have to remove it carefully!
Do you remember the part in Metroid: Zero Mission where Samus tried to escape from Zebes after killing Mother Brain but her ship was shot down? Samus narrated: ββ¦My power suit was ripped offβ. We see Samus wearing her undamaged Zero Suit; she can conjure the Varia Suit through strong will and she says βMy power suit was ripped offβ?! Then her new adventure was to rush into a Chozo temple in order to get a new suit. Come on? Couldnβt she just conjure a new one?!!!
Nothing makes sense in the Metroid-series anymore.
Instead the βnewβ Samus has become a bombshell, but not in a positive wayβ¦
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Ha! I had never considered how Samus' suit in Fusion didn't disappeared when she was KO'd, you have a good point there that the suit is not will-activated
Yeah, and on Zero Mission I also wondered, "why can't you conjure the suit back on? I mean, it's not like you stuffed it away in the ship or anything 
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In which way do you think Capcom has begun to take the wrong road? With Resident Evil 6?
You're right, someone competent has to save the franchise. Gameloft had in their iOS/Android-game Men In Black 3 included a cameo appearance of Samus. In the game, she is a recruitable MiB-agent called "Samantha Aran", who was a counter-terrorist in her previous life before joining the MiB. No, she doesn't wear her sexist ZS. She wears a suit like the rest of the MiB-agents.
You know, although the Captain N-series and comics may not be good compared with the standards or expectations of today, I think that they at least respect the characters. Maybe with the exception of Simon Belmont, but hey, DiC couldn't just use a 'barbarian' Simon for a kids show, right?
If Nintendo does the same move today as in the 80s with DiC Entertainment, maybe it would lead to something. Hey, hire Bruce Timm and Paul Dini from the DCAU and Arkham City respectively and make a darker, stoic and heroic Samus. Or why not Frank Miller ("I'm the goddamn Samus!")? Or Christopher Nolan making a trilogy consisting of "Samus Begins", "The Golden Knight" and "The Golden Knight Rises"?
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Eh, mainly with all the "DLC on disc" crap they're coming up nowadays, despite of what the fans keep saying of how much they hate that practice, it feels like Capcom is spitting at their faces. But I also didn't like how RE 6 looked, I played it, and I think RE 5 looked better IMO, and lol, RE 6 has been the LEAST well received game (from the main series) in the franchise since RE 3, now that's something to ponder.
Capcom ain't just the same anymore 
Heheh, Samantha Aran, lol, that's funny
Heh, so, how old are you to know Captain N? Old guys like me are getting old on this side of the internet
Yeah, well, if you ask me (and I thin I already said it on this Deviation), Nintendo needs to completely remove the Zero Suit business, I mean, it was a smart move since it received a lot of attention, but not the good kind of it, everyone is just seeing Samus as a sex toy, so, what they should do is continue from Fusion and ignore the Zero Suit the whole story, though, maybe they could have it as an unlockable once you beat the game or something, not make a buttload of scenes showing off her huge unnatural breasts and ass -_-
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Yeah, it's really annoying to have this DLC-nonsense. The game companies should think of those who don't have Internet at all!
And of course, I as a consumer would like to pay for the game once, and get all contents directly.
That's the sad truth about the wireless technology today. In the past, the games had to be flawless (without bugs) before shipping them to the stores. Now, that we have (wireless) Internet, we have to expect lots of updates and bug fixes.
What happened to the games? In the past, they had a simple plot but could be lots of fun. Samus didn't show her unnatural breasts and ass, but we could enjoy the original Metroid Trilogy anyway. True, Samus wore a tank top and a bikini bottom beneath her Power Suit, but wasn't that kind of clothes "common" in space science fictions? I was thinking of the Golden Age of stories btw.
The only reason Capcom, Nintendo, Namco, Konami, Activision, EA Games, Team Ninja etc. are big names, is because of their rich golden gaming history in the past. Now they are just like any other game company.
So you like Captain N? I used to watch it when I was younger. I like the Zelda cartoon as well, since I saw it first before playing the games. I am old enough to have been aware of the previous Single Link-theory, and I still like it. Although it's official that each Zelda game has its own Link, I don't like the idea. But honestly I don't like the Zelda games which have the awful comical animation first introduced in The Wind Waker.
That's right! I agree with you fully there. Samus is a heroic character, not a sex toy! Too bad Metroid Prime 2 & 3 used the ZS-concept (in the 100% endings) while the first game didn't have it (since Zero Mission didn't exist then).
I mean yes, the ZS could a secret unlockable, but I still think that the "ZS conjures the Varia Suit out of nowhere"-concept is just plain stupid.
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I find this picture offensive.
Samus from other M is too tall and has long hair.
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Yes she is miss represented in this pic! Thats samus from the Metroid Prime series! Shes not a pussy!
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But according to Other M, the Prime series NEVER happened
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It says that in the lore for the series?!
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Okay, I'm totally lost...
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XD Well I wanted to troll the pic cuz in the cutscense from other m Samus's height when compared with the rest of the characters was like 5 nothing. I and yet she got in the suit and was taller than them. It was weird.
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Ah, well, I haven't played Other M for more than 15 minutes, so, I guess the troll's on you!
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Ah makes sense then why you drew her wrong then.
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X3 wow so Ii'm not the only one.
why is it when a badass character is revealed to be a girl
eventually we forget that she's cool and focus on the fact that
she's hot...It's starting to annoy me
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Yeah, well, what annoys me, is Nintendo's persistent focus on "innovation" or gimmicks, instead of some amazing epic story that makes sense -_-
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To be fair, the realization that adopting a genetically engineered killing machine is the closest thing she had to a normal relationship IS a reason to cry.
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Well, and to be honest, Nintendo SUCKS at making plots!
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yep i remember, middle one is original samus, then came the hot one, and Zero suit Samus, i agree with you, WTH??!!
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no, just saying, lol
but this is a good one
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good argument but I don't think you can really say Metroid's on a decline. It was one game after all, did you forget the spectacular prime series that preceded this? now that was a bad ass bounty hunter. It's not on a decline until it has two strikes, on the third strike it's dead. I too wish the zero suit was still a prize
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I'm not saying Metroid is on decline, rather all of Nintendo is
Yes, and if Prime's developers, Retro Studios, was doing so good making the Metroid games, then why, oh why? Did Nintendo had to resort to Team Ninja? And why did Yoshio Sakamoto, Metroid franchise's lead designer, made ALL of the Metroid Prime games NON-CANON, the coolest trilogy in Metroid history, didn't happen, just because he says so.
So, even though this is not baseball, between the mental decay of Nintendo as a company, and Sakamoto's own, are two strikes, and I get the feeling that the third is already on its way
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Because Retro is Nintendo's future. they went to work on DKR and handled it beautifully. I think Retro is one of the most capable devolpers out there and should handle all of Nintendo's IP's.
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Again, if Retro Studios was doing such a good work, why did Nintendo brought Team Ninja for Other M and declared the Prime series as non-canon to Metroid -_-
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but Prime is canon, it's after the first metroid. and like I said, retro went on to revive Donkey Kong. A developer with as much talent as they have shouldn't be restricted to only one franchise, stunts creativity.
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According to Other M and Samus, Prime never happened [link]
You're free to watch the rest of the video, it's long, but makes excellent point of how Sakamoto killed the franchise
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Other M never states that Prime never happened. Neither did Nintendo. There is no current official timeline to the series, though there a ton of online opinion pieces and youtube videos that state both that Prime is and isn't canon. As far as Nintendo's official involvement there seems to be only an old Japanese website for Zero Mission that places Prime after the first Metroid, and before Metroid 2: Return of Samus. Her quote First joint mission is just that,her first mission since becoming a bounty hunter that she's had a commanding officer. All other points in that video are spot on. Other M is the weakest link and should not be considered canon by any self respecting Metroid fan.
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What about Admiral Dane in Metroid Prime 3? He certainly acted as Samus' CO, although nowhere as fucking oppressive as Adam.
Eh, but I see that this is going nowhere, and frankly, I'm getting tired of always having these pointless conversations, you will think what you want, and I will think what I want, that's the only certain result of this.
Nevertheless, I insist that Metroid Other M is another symptom of Nintendo's quality decay in game series, this first happened with Starfox, the moment it got designed by third party developer (Rare in this case), it never recovered in any of its succeeding games, and I'm afraid Metroid will suffer the same fate
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I was about to suggest the same thing lol. either way I respect your opinion and view on the Metroid series, thank you for the debate! and just to steer things back to what DeviantArt is about, I really enjoyed your picture,it made me laugh and appreciate the older Metroid's a little more for not sexualizing her or focusing on the fact that she was a girl at all.
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In this picture, I see irony.
Lots and lots of irony.
And, judging by what I just read, not in the way you intended...
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* And, judging by what I just read, probably not in the way you intended...
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So, what you're saying is, that I have no control of my actions?
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Zero Suit Samus- Portrayed as the most objectifying/girlyfying.
Other outfits- Arguably far more objectifying, in retrospect.
The former just ended up... getting far more screentime since Metriod Zero.
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I don't really know the game but I've heard very bad things about Other M... too bad, I liked Samus' character (she's been featured in many webcomics I read). It's truly a pity that they womanize characters so much, I mean in a ridiculous way. This is partly why I have something against manga with big breasted girls. it's ridiculous. XD anyway, about the picture, good job on the expressions, then again you're a cartoonist, you rule at that XD The spandex/leather/ plastic uniform (or however you might call it, body suit?) they are wearing looks real and anatomy is good !
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Yep, I played Other M at my friend's house, and from the very beginning, you could tell it sucked, and thanks to one of my friends here, I received confirmation with a link to an interview with Other M's directors [link] it's really fun to read
Ah, you really think the anatomy in this pic is good? I tried to go out of my way and give Sammie more realistic breasts instead of the bubbles usually mounted on her poor chest by other artists (not saying that she doesn't look good, but she doesn't exactly look like a badass bountyhunter 
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It's such a pity though. It's like they don't even realise what they've done... anyhow... T_T it's like how they killed Zelda with Link : Faces of Evil. That game is... there is no word to describe how bad that game was. Anyway XD
I think her breasts look natural
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