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I love this Amendment. In fact I love all of the amendments. However, I love this one because it allows us to own weapons that the government have. So I can buy a tank if I want and the government can't do anything about it. Because the 2nd amendment states that I can. Now I would love to own guns, for one reason only; To protect my family. Other than that, I wouldn't use guns for any other purpose. I might go hunting, but that depends.But I support the 2nd amendment 100% and I hate gun bans. Because if everyone is armed and allowed to carry assult weapons around where ever they go, then people wouldn't go out and shoot other people. Because then they might get shot themselves. That's why gin bans DO NOT WORK! Because all they do is allow lawless people to do whatever they want. So that is why we can not allow gun bans.
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I agree, criminals would still get their hands on guns.
Making it illegal to have guns wouldn't stop those who do intend to use it against people, i mean, if they are already breaking the law by killing then being caught in possesion of guns won't make their sentence much worse....They wouldn't care, if they get caught killing, then whetever or not they have guns won't make much of a difference to their punishment.
(Too bad we don't have the same thing where i come from....Well, you can get a gun if you can prove that you need it....And if you're just shooting for fun (Not on humans of course XD) if you want one for shooting as a hobby, then you have to be part of som gun club to prove that you're just gonna use it as part of your hobby....Damn, i'm jealous of the 2nd amendment.)
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Yes, I can. I'm allowed to have the same weapons as the U.S Government, and if the U.S Government are allowed to have a tank, then so can I. Because it is not against the law or the Consitution. Eat your heart out!
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You've noticed the part that says "WELL REGULATED" right?
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You've noticed the part that says "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" right?
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Yes. Regulation is not infringement.
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It is when Regulation only applies to the word "Militia," have you even read the second amendment? It's on this picture.
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Yeah, and the 2nd amendment implies that the citizens who are bearing these arms are to be a part of this militia.
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No, the second amendment implies ALL CITIZENS are apart of this Militia when needed, and ALL CITIZENS can bear arms, it's not that hard dude, and there's no need to make it hard, all citizens can bear arms of any type because the founding fathers knew that the government could be tyrannical one day, so they made it so that everybody is equal, and no government would ruin that.
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The Fathers likely intended the arms to be used against foreign invaders, given that militias were important for the defense of the colonies during the revolution.
Also, any type? Really? You don't think that's a bit of a stretch? Should you or I have the unalienable right to own a tank or an aircraft carrier or even nuclear weapons?
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The Founding Fathers MORE likely intended to keep government in check, not invaders.
Um, yes, any type, I never hear about Massacres with Tanks, or Nuclear Weapons, and there are many people buying tanks, though, they're usually busted M18 Hellcats, and M4 Shermans just so they could repair 'em.
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I don't know how you back that idea up, but okay, they're dead, so it doesn't really matter anyway.
And that's just so absurd that I don't even know where to start. We don't have massacres with nuclear weapons because their components are either illegal or incredibly difficult to produce, and there aren't massacres with tanks because the people with the money to buy and repair old tanks have no reason to massacre anyone (also because people who go on mass killings are usually mentally unstable and it's unlikely that a mentally unstable person could hold down a job to get either of these things even if they could somehow get paid enough.)
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I back that idea up because King George was GOVERNING THEM massively.
First off, NO AMERICAN CITIZEN HAS EVER MADE A MASSACRE WITH A NUCLEAR WEAPON, Government has, and that, my dear friend, is called "Democide."
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And who ordered those nuclear strikes? Who designed and built the weapons? Who flew the aircraft and pressed the release button? None other than American citizens, and a few Germans, Canadians, and Brits too.
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No American Citizen has ever ordered a Nuclear Strike, nor designed, and built, these were all Government men. You know, you've been asking me where I get my Bullshit from... Where do you get YOURS?
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Who do you think ordered the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Harry S. Truman gave the final order to drop those bombs. Is he not an american citizen?
So Robert Oppenheimer and Richard Feynman and Albert Einstein were Government men?
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First off, these were not your "average" citizens, Harry S. Truman was under the Military and Government Command, and yes, all those three men were considered Government men.
And two, I was talking about massacres inside America, not one Nuke was used to destroy American Lives inside our American Land.
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So do Japanese people just not matter then?
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Not in American Gun Control issues, no.
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You saying only the government can regulate people? I can't self regulate myself? I can't be trusted not to do bad things unless I have a cop watching me all the time?
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You never did anything illegal? Can you guarantee than NO ONE will EVER do anything illegal?
And that's why you have REGULATIONS.
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Regulations have gotten so bad, that it's hard to poop without doing it illegally. Would you poop if you couldn't do it legally? I really don't care about what is legal. I care about: Am I hurting someone? If I'm not hurting anyone, no one should have any say in what I'm doing.
Regulations don't stop people from doing stuff, it just gives the state a method of punishing people for doing stuff. If NO ONE would EVER violate a regulation, there would be no crime.
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"Regulations have gotten so bad, that it's hard to poop without doing it illegally."
Bullshit. If it was light that, dumbasses like you would illegal long time ago.
" I really don't care about what is legal. I care about: Am I hurting someone? If I'm not hurting anyone, no one should have any say in what I'm doing."
And that is a very naive and egoistical view. How do you know if your actions are hurting anyone? Are you fully aware of all repercussions? How about children in sweatshops who make your clothes or electronics? Is your consumerism hurting them?
For a somebody with a VERY limited view, you sure are full of shit.
"Regulations don't stop people from doing stuff, it just gives the state a method of punishing people for doing stuff."
Exactly. And that is what stops most of the people from being utter assholes to each other. A fear of consequences. Without it, you pretty much have anarchy.
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You are clearly a child with no experience otherwise you would know it is impossible to do much of anything without violating a regulation. As you grow up and try to do things to better your lot in life you will discover just how many regulation are out their that serve no purpose than to make your life harder.
Our world is almost designed for the purpose of hurting people. It's not possible to live anymore without hurting someone. The problem is, few if any of the regulations have anything to do with that. Most of them are to support industries and insurance companies. If I cut down trees on my land, plant new ones, and use those trees to build a solid house on my land, I am hurting no one, but that doesn't mean the the government won't knock it down because I didn't follow regulations and buy a building permit.
If the only thing keeping people from doing bad things is the fear a cop will come get you, your society is hosed as you will never have enough cops to keep people in line. There are only three things that stop a person from doing bad things: Death, chains, and a persons own inner moral code that tells them not to do certain things. Only monsters rely on the first two.
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"Our world is almost designed for the purpose of hurting people. It's not possible to live anymore without hurting someone."
yeah, it is easy to say that while you're eating your BigMac and drink Starbucks, while typing on your brand new Mac. If you or your child was working in a sweatshop, I'm pretty sure you'd have a different attitude. But then again, it is unthinkable for you because your are a conformist with nothing else to do but to whine on internet.
"...but that doesn't mean the the government won't knock it down because I didn't follow regulations and buy a building permit."
While bureaucracy is getting a bit silly with over-regulating every part of our lives, original idea was to maintain at least some sensible plan on what's going on. You use trees as example - do you think that if you cut 20-30 years old trees and plant a new ones that it is fine? New trees will have to grow for many decades to equalize what you did. You presume that you OWN the land although you share it with many other forms of life that depend on those trees.
So yeah, although regulations are sometimes a bit silly, there's a good reason why we should try to UNDERSTAND them before we jump ahead and just do whatever we want.
I agree with the last paragraph completely. Kudos for that. Still, somebody needs to maintain that moral code and although police isn't quite a pillar of morality, you have to remember that police, firefighters, doctors and other medical workers are mostly if not completely gov't employed and that they sacrifice quite a lot to maintain that moral code. Try working a few months in 16-20 hours shifts in ER or risk your life every time you jump into building on fire or go on patrol and you will understand it.
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Some people need regulation
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Say, have you ever noticed that the latest shootings (and most of the shootings in the USA so far) that had been happening have been in gun free zoned states and states that voted for Obama?
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Yeah! They shouldn't be saying they need 'gun control laws' if it happens in 'gun free zones' its ridiculous!
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Finally someone gets it! The purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to prevent a tyrannical government. Law abiding citizens should be able to have the same weapons as our military.
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I ask my mom if the second amendment allows us to have a tank and she said that it does. As long as you have the money, you can buy a tank if you want. So that is what I'm doing. I'm going to own a tank when I have the money.
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These sorts of broad statements sound nice, but they ignore the realities of guns and gun violence in the US.
The notion that the owning of a gun makes your more safe is not reflected by the realities of how guns are used in terms of actual violence. The majority of gun deaths are suicides and the rest are homicides, it's about a 60/40 split. In the overwhelming majority of those homicides, the participants knew each other. It's an extremely rare occasion that someone is involved in a shootout with a stranger. Although the mass shootings we've seen in Sandy Brook and the Colorado theater shooting are on a statistical rise, they still make up only a very miniscule portion of the total gun deaths in the nation.
Most telling of all, people who own a gun are 2.7 times more likely to die in a gun homicide than those that don't own a gun. The idea that owning a gun makes you safer from violence isn't reflected by the facts.
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s long as you don't mind all of your neighbors of every race and religion being nuclear armed. Because all of us are law abiding until we pull the trigger.
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'All of us are law abiding until we pull the trigger'- that is not exactly true because you could pull the trigger and still be a law abiding citizen it is by means of self defense.
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Says it RIGHT there! "Shall NOT be infringed". Those morons in DC have obviously forgotten we have a constitution.
Nice post, man! ;D
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Thanks. I just love pointing out the flaws of the morons in DC.
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Well you're flippin' awesome at it, so keep it up!!
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I like the thesis, hate the arguement. I firmly believe no amount of gun restrictions or lack there of will have any real profound effect on crime. Also, the NRA is hardly an organization for guns rights, its more of a GOP organ using gun rights as a rallying cry. Gun bans do not effect crime, nor do the stop middle class conspiricy theorists (*cough* tea party *cough*) or protect the home. The only thing, in global history, such bans have every truely effected, is the disenfranchized underclasses from getting pissed of, organized, and finally taking their workplaces by force. Gun restrictions are in place for the protection of private commercial property. To quote Adam Smith "Civil government, so far as it is instituted for the security of property, is in reality instituted for the defence of the rich against the poor, or of those who have some property against those who have none at all."
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The day I believe guns are good is the day I don't have to coward in fear of getting shot in my own home.
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Shh! Quiet! Don't you know that the libtarded moonbats want to pretend that the amendment doesn't exist, along with the tenth.
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Which is the more reason to scream it out loud.
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Too bad they can't pretend the 16th Amendment doesn't exist!
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I really wish we could pretend the 16th Amendment doesn't exist!
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There are more deaths by car than by gun per year, so why don't we ban cars? Their ownership?
Well, technically we do, 12 points and your license gets revoked, but not the vehicle.
Why can't we practice this with weaponry? Most guns don't even leave the household.
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Because cars AREN'T invented to be murder weapons.
Because cars have legitimate USE - transportation.
etc...
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I am just fucking rolling at terms you're using.
>murder weapons
>legitimate use
You're a poster child for fudds everywhere.
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