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Yeah, sorry to be rude (and trust me, I'll say the way it is) but I have no respect for incels, either they are real or fictitious.

I mean, we don't talk about underdogs who are slightly jealous of someone who's dating a gal they have a crush on (they at least have a pretty good reason of being jealous, especially since the rival has something worth to be jealous of).
Here, we talk about misogynistic guys who not only can't handle their own emotions and feelings but also think they have a claim of ownership over gals for being the object of their desire without even considering their mind, go berserk for refusal from the "ladylove" no matter how justified it was, promote violence against women and sexually/sentimentally fulfilled men, to a point of committing mass killing. In short, jealous, possessive and vindictive using their "unwanted" single status as an excuse for horrible things with criminal proportions and still wallowing after that for being single. Worse yet, they have the gall to pretend being "nice" and to put the blame on their "ladylove" for not having chose them, having feeling for another guys or being in couple with another, even through they never have the gall to tell their loved one about their feelings.

And as it wasn't enough, they are people who are completely on their side, who sympathize with them and blatantly demonize the "ladylove" (if not the rival) for whatever reasons, even through the said lady did nothing wrong, just follow her heart. While encouraging the one they sympathize to do the same... DOUBLE STANDARD !
And yes, frankly, I'm sick of it !
Sick to see people blindly support such a crybaby and systematically call the loved one (especially if it's a woman since we talk about misogynistic people so if anything goes wrong it's automatically "woman's fault") every name under the sun

I mean, I can eventually understand this trend to vilify the loved one... if this person was blatantly adulterous or simply toxic toward the protagonist, if she's remorselessly manipulated her partner, put pressure on her, played with his feelings she perfectly knows about, thrown him under the bus and that (also, the same if the loved one is a He and the protagonist a She, by the way). And yet, I won't encourage the protagonist to commit murder, harassment or anything reprehensible (unless his own life depends on it at a punch, when he's about to screw his life up for someone who's not even worth it and yet it's borderline), just for turning around, walking away and definitely scrapping the person who has made him suffer so much.

Otherwise, when the "ladylove" did nothing wrong except living her own life — even better, still respects the male protagonist and considers him as a friend but it's not enough for the said protagonist who won't accept his "ladylove"'s choice as long as it contradicts his plans and then goes berserk until he has what he wants, I... *sigh*
I'm like the lawyer in this episode of Batman the animated series where Batman is taken to court at Arkham by his enemies and all criminals he has sent to the asylum, reminding the Mad Hatter during the said court he has kidnapped and brainwashed a girl who has rejected his overtures and telling him he could have respected her wishes and let her alone, what the Mad Hatter spontaneously responds he would have killed at first. And Batman is the bag guy for having protected the girl from such a freak ?

It's like listening some douchebag who's constantly wallowing about being alone, friendless and loveless, that no one likes him nor want to be his friend or his partner while... he is narcissistic and insensitive, either a bully or a stuck-up (sometimes both), treat everyone around them as granted, in short, their behaviour is the reason of their loneliness. And since they never thought
ht about bettering themselves, thinking they're perfect and constantly maintains it's the others the problem, they just confirm they are the problem, they're just too thick for not realising it. And they have the gall to claim being the good guy ?
Hey, the simple fact they refuse to reassess themselves and prefer shift the blame on everyone else is a red flag. As well as harassing and manipulating people for doing what they want and nothing else, disregarding their feelings and opinions !

And that goes for the incels. They wallow and bitch about being single and rejected (or simply friendzoned) while the simple fact they keep complaining about it, put the responsibility on the others and go as far as going berserk and turning criminal, without either considering their loved one feelings ARE the reason they'll be single for the rest of their life.
I mean come on, you would like to be paired up with someone who throws their toys out of the pram and blows a fuse at the slightest irritation ? Who puts his feeling before anyone else ? Like a giant baby ?
Worse yet, you would like to hang around with someone who treats you as granted ? Like if you were a giant baby's favorite toy ? And also mistreats you if you don't do as they want ?
As am I concerned, as a guy I prefer living a platonic love with a girl I get along well rather than dating someone who considers me as less than a person, barely respects me as well and freaks out 'cause she can't take no for an answer.

This is why whenever they present me an incel in fiction and want me so badly to be sorry for, I'm like "why should I do ?". Unless the ladylove has indeed played with his feeling, blatantly and remorselessly cheated on him or dumped him for some douchebag as soon as he's showed up (and yet !), I don't see why I should why I should pity of the protagonist rather the person he is clearly has an obsession with, since he won't let her go until he has what he wanted ? Because his feelings has been ignored/rejected ? While he doesn't seem to take his "loved one" feelings in consideration nor respect her choices, just confirm he's self-centered ? Which is anything but romantic ?
I can hardly consider such attitude as true love, at this stage ! More like an obsession ! And that gives another reason for the "loved one" not to hang around with such a pervert !

And I see can see from a distance people telling me that it's precisely for the protagonist not turning obssessive-psychopath-criminal the loved one should have been his partner in the first place. To which I say : do you realise that looks emotional blackmail ? Forcing a gal who didn't ask anything to hang around with a douchebag for him not to freak out and turning psychopath ? Rather than being with someone who'll treat her more decently and respectfully, with he'll have a more likely healthy relationship ? At the risk of wasting her own life in aid of a guy who's barely give her anything in return nor treated her properly ?
Gentlemen, your girlfriend are not your babysitter nor your therapist nor your servant. She's just your partner. She has her life and her needs too. If your unable to have self-control and take yourself in hand or to understand your partner's needs, then you you're too immature and selfish to have a decent relationship and you don't deserve her ! Deal with it !

By the way, having a one-sided feeling is not a good reason enough for turning sociopath. I'm even going to say that if you truly love someone, then their happiness should count more than your own. And then, you should respect their feelings and their choices whatever they are, as long as you're loved one is happy and then you shouldn't intervene in their lives until they're in trouble and need your help. This, in my view, is what differentiates true love and pathological obsession. And also what differentiates someone who claim being nice and someone who's actually nice (in addition to that true nice people don't shout it from the rooftops and take responsibilities when they do something wrong).

Do you know why I took Hup from Dark Crystal series as an avatar for a while ? Not only he's a character I like (my second favorite after Deet,to be honest) but what I like about him it's when he realizes that the Gelfling he has a crush on, with who he's hanged out for a while during the show, has also a crush on another Gelfling. And yes, he looks disappointed and heartbroken at first, but stays loyal and considerate to his friends, especially the one he has a crush one, even defending her against the Hunter while he's not up enough (no pun intended) against such an enemy. Even better, when his friends has to leave him to continue their quest while he recovers himself, he asks both his ladylove and his rival to be careful, showing he has no animosity against the latter and even considers him as a friends (or because he counts on Rian to take care of Deet in his absence, which still shows he cares more about his ladylove than about himself).
Besides, it's not like if Deet has dumped Hup for Rian and completely forget about the Podling since he meets the Stonewood Gelfling (otherwise, the Podling would have still been in the Stone-in-the-Wood dungeon at this stage), since she still care about her friend as before. Neither it's like if Rian wanted to steal Deet from Hup since they're not officialy a couple and Rian barely know them when he starts having feelings for the Deet and even if it does, it was purely accidental. If you ask me, if Rian has fallen for Deet after having lost her last girlfriend twice, that's only because Deet is so loveable in herself you can't resist (why is she my #1 favorite character of the show in your opinion ?)

The fact is, if I must to represent myself with a fictitious character on social media, I might choose one who's set me a good example as well — either Hup or any character who decently put their loved one's good before their own, no matter if they end up as a couple or not, showing that just being single or friendzoned is not a legitimate excuse of being an asshole.
Rather that than one who insults me as a man by telling me "if your crush don't share the feeling you have for her, dont accept her own feelings nor her choices, don't improve yourself, have nothing to feel ashamed about, just do the worst you can do even if you had to add fuel to the fire, you'll have her one day or another, she belongs to you anyway, she has to be with you and no one else if she wants to be happy". Sorry but no, I want nothing to do with that.
If everyone thinks that way, no wonder men have such a bad reputation nowadays (and even before) !
And you know, if such a dick is usually portrayed as a villain/antagonist in most of fictions, it's for a reason.

In short, to anyone who see themselves in inceldom : youtu.be/Rh1ZXbCWD8U

Thanks for your understanding.

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Yeah, sorry to be rude (and trust me, I'll say the way it is) but I have no respect for incels, either they are real or fictitious.

I mean, we don't talk about underdogs who are slightly jealous of someone who's dating a gal they have a crush on (they at least have a pretty good reason of being jealous, especially since the rival has something worth to be jealous of).
Here, we talk about misogynistic guys who not only can't handle their own emotions and feelings but also think they have a claim of ownership over gals for being the object of their desire without even considering their mind, go berserk for refusal from the "ladylove" no matter how justified it was, promote violence against women and sexually/sentimentally fulfilled men, to a point of committing mass killing. In short, jealous, possessive and vindictive using their "unwanted" single status as an excuse for horrible things with criminal proportions and still wallowing after that for being single. Worse yet, they have the gall to pretend being "nice" and to put the blame on their "ladylove" for not having chose them, having feeling for another guys or being in couple with another, even through they never have the gall to tell their loved one about their feelings.

And as it wasn't enough, they are people who are completely on their side, who sympathize with them and blatantly demonize the "ladylove" (if not the rival) for whatever reasons, even through the said lady did nothing wrong, just follow her heart. While encouraging the one they sympathize to do the same... DOUBLE STANDARD !
And yes, frankly, I'm sick of it !
Sick to see people blindly support such a crybaby and systematically call the loved one (especially if it's a woman since we talk about misogynistic people so if anything goes wrong it's automatically "woman's fault") every name under the sun

I mean, I can eventually understand this trend to vilify the loved one... if this person was blatantly adulterous or simply toxic toward the protagonist, if she's remorselessly manipulated her partner, put pressure on her, played with his feelings she perfectly knows about, thrown him under the bus and that (also, the same if the loved one is a He and the protagonist a She, by the way). And yet, I won't encourage the protagonist to commit murder, harassment or anything reprehensible (unless his own life depends on it at a punch, when he's about to screw his life up for someone who's not even worth it and yet it's borderline), just for turning around, walking away and definitely scrapping the person who has made him suffer so much.

Otherwise, when the "ladylove" did nothing wrong except living her own life — even better, still respects the male protagonist and considers him as a friend but it's not enough for the said protagonist who won't accept his "ladylove"'s choice as long as it contradicts his plans and then goes berserk until he has what he wants, I... *sigh*
I'm like the lawyer in this episode of Batman the animated series where Batman is taken to court at Arkham by his enemies and all criminals he has sent to the asylum, reminding the Mad Hatter during the said court he has kidnapped and brainwashed a girl who has rejected his overtures and telling him he could have respected her wishes and let her alone, what the Mad Hatter spontaneously responds he would have killed at first. And Batman is the bag guy for having protected the girl from such a freak ?

It's like listening some douchebag who's constantly wallowing about being alone, friendless and loveless, that no one likes him nor want to be his friend or his partner while... he is narcissistic and insensitive, either a bully or a stuck-up (sometimes both), treat everyone around them as granted, in short, their behaviour is the reason of their loneliness. And since they never thought
ht about bettering themselves, thinking they're perfect and constantly maintains it's the others the problem, they just confirm they are the problem, they're just too thick for not realising it. And they have the gall to claim being the good guy ?
Hey, the simple fact they refuse to reassess themselves and prefer shift the blame on everyone else is a red flag. As well as harassing and manipulating people for doing what they want and nothing else, disregarding their feelings and opinions !

And that goes for the incels. They wallow and bitch about being single and rejected (or simply friendzoned) while the simple fact they keep complaining about it, put the responsibility on the others and go as far as going berserk and turning criminal, without either considering their loved one feelings ARE the reason they'll be single for the rest of their life.
I mean come on, you would like to be paired up with someone who throws their toys out of the pram and blows a fuse at the slightest irritation ? Who puts his feeling before anyone else ? Like a giant baby ?
Worse yet, you would like to hang around with someone who treats you as granted ? Like if you were a giant baby's favorite toy ? And also mistreats you if you don't do as they want ?
As am I concerned, as a guy I prefer living a platonic love with a girl I get along well rather than dating someone who considers me as less than a person, barely respects me as well and freaks out 'cause she can't take no for an answer.

This is why whenever they present me an incel in fiction and want me so badly to be sorry for, I'm like "why should I do ?". Unless the ladylove has indeed played with his feeling, blatantly and remorselessly cheated on him or dumped him for some douchebag as soon as he's showed up (and yet !), I don't see why I should why I should pity of the protagonist rather the person he is clearly has an obsession with, since he won't let her go until he has what he wanted ? Because his feelings has been ignored/rejected ? While he doesn't seem to take his "loved one" feelings in consideration nor respect her choices, just confirm he's self-centered ? Which is anything but romantic ?
I can hardly consider such attitude as true love, at this stage ! More like an obsession ! And that gives another reason for the "loved one" not to hang around with such a pervert !

And I see can see from a distance people telling me that it's precisely for the protagonist not turning obssessive-psychopath-criminal the loved one should have been his partner in the first place. To which I say : do you realise that looks emotional blackmail ? Forcing a gal who didn't ask anything to hang around with a douchebag for him not to freak out and turning psychopath ? Rather than being with someone who'll treat her more decently and respectfully, with he'll have a more likely healthy relationship ? At the risk of wasting her own life in aid of a guy who's barely give her anything in return nor treated her properly ?
Gentlemen, your girlfriend are not your babysitter nor your therapist nor your servant. She's just your partner. She has her life and her needs too. If your unable to have self-control and take yourself in hand or to understand your partner's needs, then you you're too immature and selfish to have a decent relationship and you don't deserve her ! Deal with it !

By the way, having a one-sided feeling is not a good reason enough for turning sociopath. I'm even going to say that if you truly love someone, then their happiness should count more than your own. And then, you should respect their feelings and their choices whatever they are, as long as you're loved one is happy and then you shouldn't intervene in their lives until they're in trouble and need your help. This, in my view, is what differentiates true love and pathological obsession. And also what differentiates someone who claim being nice and someone who's actually nice (in addition to that true nice people don't shout it from the rooftops and take responsibilities when they do something wrong).

Do you know why I took Hup from Dark Crystal series as an avatar for a while ? Not only he's a character I like (my second favorite after Deet,to be honest) but what I like about him it's when he realizes that the Gelfling he has a crush on, with who he's hanged out for a while during the show, has also a crush on another Gelfling. And yes, he looks disappointed and heartbroken at first, but stays loyal and considerate to his friends, especially the one he has a crush one, even defending her against the Hunter while he's not up enough (no pun intended) against such an enemy. Even better, when his friends has to leave him to continue their quest while he recovers himself, he asks both his ladylove and his rival to be careful, showing he has no animosity against the latter and even considers him as a friends (or because he counts on Rian to take care of Deet in his absence, which still shows he cares more about his ladylove than about himself).
Besides, it's not like if Deet has dumped Hup for Rian and completely forget about the Podling since he meets the Stonewood Gelfling (otherwise, the Podling would have still been in the Stone-in-the-Wood dungeon at this stage), since she still care about her friend as before. Neither it's like if Rian wanted to steal Deet from Hup since they're not officialy a couple and Rian barely know them when he starts having feelings for the Deet and even if it does, it was purely accidental. If you ask me, if Rian has fallen for Deet after having lost her last girlfriend twice, that's only because Deet is so loveable in herself you can't resist (why is she my #1 favorite character of the show in your opinion ?)

The fact is, if I must to represent myself with a fictitious character on social media, I might choose one who's set me a good example as well — either Hup or any character who decently put their loved one's good before their own, no matter if they end up as a couple or not, showing that just being single or friendzoned is not a legitimate excuse of being an asshole.
Rather that than one who insults me as a man by telling me "if your crush don't share the feeling you have for her, dont accept her own feelings nor her choices, don't improve yourself, have nothing to feel ashamed about, just do the worst you can do even if you had to add fuel to the fire, you'll have her one day or another, she belongs to you anyway, she has to be with you and no one else if she wants to be happy". Sorry but no, I want nothing to do with that.
If everyone thinks that way, no wonder men have such a bad reputation nowadays (and even before) !
And you know, if such a dick is usually portrayed as a villain/antagonist in most of fictions, it's for a reason.

In short, to anyone who see themselves in inceldom : youtu.be/Rh1ZXbCWD8U

Thanks for your understanding.