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misteryA555 In reply to ??? [2012-07-11 14:11:19 +0000 UTC]
Wait
I forgot what we were talking about
.....
Want some pie? : D
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to ??? [2012-07-07 02:44:33 +0000 UTC]
So now its congresses fault?
I can't believe what I'm hearing. But I have much more arguements in which my opposers do much better than this. So feeble is your reply. you keep circling back and destroying points you've made before. Vague answers and diminishing of your opponent (meaning me, in this case) is not the way to 'win a war' so to speak.
and, totally off topic, but might I ask your age?
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misteryA555 In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-07 03:00:30 +0000 UTC]
It is not congresses fault
You missed the point
IT IS NOT ONE PEOPLE/GROUPS FAULT
EVERYONE HAD A PART IN IT
IT IS NOT ONLY OBAMA'S FAULT
IT IS NOT ONLY CONGRESSES' FAULT
IT IS NOT ONLY THE CITIZEN'S FAULT
IT IS NOT ONLY THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE'S FAULT
DO YOU GET IT NOW?
DID YOU GET ENOUGH HELP?
And yes I am circling
because I have already answered your argument
In the previous comment
I also DID bring up a new point if you had PAID ATTENTION
I emphasis words for a reason
THEY ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT I AM SAYING
I'm guessing you just didn't read either of my comments past the first line
because then you'd realize WHY I am circling
You literally just tried to prove me wrong by using SOMETHING I ALREADY COVERED
And I didn't give vague answers
If anything, I gave directions
On how YOU can better your argument
And you never answered my question
'Did you do ANY research on any OTHER presidents?'
Each time you accuse me of circling when its YOUR FAULT that I have to
Then YOU are making a very VERY flimsy argument
If you must know my age
You should just go to my profile
I am a 16 year old boy living in Louisiana
And age has NOTHING to do with maturity
I know an 8 year old who is wise WAY beyond her years
and I also know a full-grown man man who acts like a child
So age means NOTHING
and I hope you learn this at some point in your life
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MegaAnimeFreak7 In reply to misteryA555 [2012-09-09 05:40:24 +0000 UTC]
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misteryA555 In reply to MegaAnimeFreak7 [2012-09-09 15:27:45 +0000 UTC]
Lawl Really?
I write all of this kinda without thinking
I should really try harder......
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misteryA555 In reply to Litachu [2012-07-08 03:21:19 +0000 UTC]
Haha thanks
Its nice at least someone understands
What I'm talking about
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Litachu In reply to misteryA555 [2012-07-08 03:26:23 +0000 UTC]
every one feels stubborn when it comes to someone not having the same opinion, and it leads to pointless arguments and nothing gets done, because a singe page full of arguments on an art website will not affect the government... for now.
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misteryA555 In reply to Litachu [2012-07-08 03:36:16 +0000 UTC]
Thats true
I only gets into arguments
To help my brain
It helps me focus and helps me
Get better at thinking quicker each time
I also helps me learn to deal with people
and helps me learn tactics for debate in real life
So thats my reason
Which is probably not the same as anyones' lolz
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to misteryA555 [2012-07-07 03:21:18 +0000 UTC]
I realize age has nothing to with maturity, since I, sir, am 14! I ask a simple question and you snap back? I was just comparing!
I ask that you at least clm down a bit. Before I go on, I must warn you, I am tired and may circle unintentionally, or snap, so please take nothing personally.
I will start by saying I believe it IS Obama's fault, because though Congress may have passed whatever obscure , damaging laws, they all cam from OBama. He is to blame. But he can't TAKE blame, is the problem. So he turns on the right, saying that republicans are evil and rich people are hoarders.
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misteryA555 In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-07 03:33:47 +0000 UTC]
I wasn't snapping
Emphasis is different then anger
I am actually one of the calmest people you'll ever meet
I was once slapped in the face and kept walking
Without a single thought of hitting the person back
I will CAPITALIZE words
Because I want people to focus mainly on those certain points
I'm not yelling
Sorry for the confusion
I'll stop
But I was explaining why he didn't keep promises
Since that was your main problem with him
He might've wanted to do something
but Congress turned him down
That is what I was trying to explain
I do hope one day you get a teacher that teaches you to analyze passages
Because it helps A LOT let me tell you XD
You do realize he says that as a campaigning plot
Republicans do it all the time
Everyone does
So that argument is also flimsy
You seem to not understand that Obama is doing perfectly normal things
That all presidents do
Which is why I asked you to research
Because then you'd see that clearly
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to misteryA555 [2012-07-08 02:09:05 +0000 UTC]
I understand and respect your choices and viewpoints, and I am sorry for my bad mood last night. Thank you for understanding. And just so you know, my computer is being really wierd so I may not get the chance to reply in a while. Please excus if this happens.
Well, though it isn't my main concern with OBama, I'll go along with it, but you see, he has full control of the army, if I'm not mistakn, and when he was running he promised no more war- which, I'm glad he never fulfilled or the US would be conquored by now- my point is, he didn't need permition to pull back the armies, I'm sure, and yet- or, thankfully- he did not, and continued the war.
And on things like the passage, I think my teachers are on the verge of calling me a lost cause, but I will try.
I am just very urked because he promised such big things, he lied so he could sit down in that chair and go on vacation with our taxes!
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misteryA555 In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-08 03:19:25 +0000 UTC]
Do you know how hard it is to run an entire country
He literally has to listen to 7 million voices
So he needed a vacation man
Normal people take vacations all the time
and their vacations are also on our tax dollars
You see?
He has it harder than anyone
So he deserves I small time to lay back
and have a break from trying to please everyone
Maybe he wanted to troops brought back sooner
but there where people who got in the way
You gotta think about other factors
Not just what he did and didn't do
But the people and things that affect his job day to day
He also stopped the war
but soilders stayed behind to help clean up the damage
and also to train the people of Iraq
So thats why so many are still gone
but they aren't fighting
Okay?
He did stop the war
We would not be conquered
When was the last time a country was conquered?
More than 2 hundred years ago!
You have to understand that people aren't going to try and conquered us
Especially since we are a global power
and have a relatively good army (Armies are a subject I know almost nothing about)
So that wouldn't of happened even if Obama pulled back our armies
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to misteryA555 [2012-07-08 03:45:45 +0000 UTC]
but it was not small time. Do you ralize that because of these 'vacations' he dragged our country into deeper debt than it's ever been in? Bush had it just as hard. But does he get vacation on our taxes? No he gets blame. And we don't go on vacation with other people's money. We use our own, well-earned profit.
But it IS what he did and didn't do. At the end of the day, that's what matters. I broke a glass vase. I may say that it was because My hands were full and I didn't see where I was going, but I still broke that vase.
Did he? Was it HIM who single-handedly stopped the war? or was it his generels, commanders and armies?
Let me jog your memory: WWII, spread of communism, Russia conquored its neighbors, and finally, 9/11. If that attack was not meant to bring the US to its knees, what was it done for?
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misteryA555 In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-08 17:24:35 +0000 UTC]
Look\
Teachers and other jobs ALSO go on vacation on governments money
Are you saying THEY shouldn't be allowed vacation?
And no
It wasn't him who single-
Ya'know what
I SAID this already
It is not one person/groups fault
So please will you get that through your think skull
And no
He didn't
The country's debt has stayed about the same since he got into power
We are not deeper than we've ever been
We are doing better then we were 5 years ago
So your information is wrong
Yes
They did attack us
But they didn't charge in with an entire army and start killing people randomly
Claiming that they will march through the entire country
and then overthrow the government
Mostly want they did was try to cause chaos
and really?
WW11?
Everyone was trying to take down the other saide
For what reason
To make them stop trying to kill everyone else
No one wanted to take over another country
(Well they did have plans
but no one went ahead with these plans on account of
they realized you just don't takeover another country)
They only wanted to stop the other side
(The sides being the Axis and the Allies)
They didn't wanted to take over the world
Unless, of course, they were Hitler
and everyone knows that he was mentally unstable
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to misteryA555 [2012-07-08 23:08:07 +0000 UTC]
Obama should have had a little more restraint and responsibility as president. Teachers get their wages from our taxes, so of course it's fine as long as they earned that money.
Oh, really, because you often say that it is the republican's fault, as does have the country, no matter what.
I reffuse to conform here. My information is all too true. I would very much like to be wrong at this point, but I know for a fact that my information is true.
Might I say Hitler could not have been mentally unstableto get as horribly far as he did. His whole plan was to rule the world, in essence. Case in point.
And what other reason would people have to strike fear into a rival country, rendering them vulnerable?
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misteryA555 In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-09 00:30:55 +0000 UTC]
DON'T YOU REALIZE
HE WENT ON VACATION
PRESIDENTS HAVE GONE ON VACATION BEFORE
MOST IF NOT ALL IN FACT
NO ONE HATED THEM FOR DOING THAT
SO WHY IS IT SO TERRIBLE WHEN OBAMA DOES IT
IT IS NO ONE PERSONS/GROUPS FAULT
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THAT
YOUR INFORMATION IS FALSE
IT DOES HAVE SOME TRUTH
BUT THE MAJORITY IS FALSE
GO DO SOME RESEARCH
AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE
YOU SEEM TO HAVE A TERRIBLE CONCEPT OF WHAT 'MENTALLY UNSTABLE' MEANS
I AM MENTALLY UNSTABLE AND I HAVE GOTTEN
STRAIGHT AS FOR 6 YEARS IN A ROW
YES HE COULD'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT MUCH
THE ONLY REASON HE WANTED TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD
WAS BECAUSE HE WAS MENTALLY UNSTABLE
...Wait
I know the reason you hate him
because you're from a republican family
and your parents probably taught you
from a very young age
the Pros of being one
But not the pros of being a Democrat
That must be why you keep going in circles
Trying to hate Obama
For things that are perfectly natural
for a President to do
I get you now
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to misteryA555 [2012-07-09 01:12:51 +0000 UTC]
You offend me. My parents, naturally, taught me their opinions, but it was left to me to decide, and after analyzing both sides, I chose for myself the republican party. Do not DARE accuse my parents for teaching ME whatever wrongs you think I did. You try anything like that again and...
Sorry. Although, for someone who's JUS lectured ME on not snapping, I think you've done a pretty good display for yourself. Now please stop babying me. I have my own views and I am very capable of standing up to the likes of you, as I'm sure you've noticed.
there are many definitions that fit with mentally unstable so you cannot blame me for assuming when you made no specifications.
have you ever considered it may be YOUR information that is off? You are jumping to conclusions, sir. how many referances of each subject did you read?
And the reason I am angry at OBAMA for going on vacation is that he raised taxes just so he could be flying around on our earnings! It may not be unusual for one vacation, but several on OUR money, not his OWN, is what is unacceptable!
Now, if you cannot handle me for only this much time, perhaps you should not be involved in these discussions.
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misteryA555 In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-09 01:25:41 +0000 UTC]
I know you have your owns views
But everyone has their own
Its foolish to think otherwise
but no matter who you are
Your parents play a huge roll in what you think
Later in life
Its Psychology 101 really
So I'm sure you can stand up for yourself
Especially against me
As I am far from good at debating
If you want to know my references
I'm sorry but I never keep the links
But ever since 2008
30% of my computer time is
Researching Presidents
and what they do and don't do
So I believe I've done more then you have
and also since its been spread over many years
I don't remember any of the websites
Which fills me with a small shred of shame
How do you know he didn't use his own money
Technically
His entire salary is based on our taxes
So either way he is using our taxes
And I suggest you get a new thing
To use in arguments against others
In the future
But that is just an assumption
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to misteryA555 [2012-07-09 01:32:58 +0000 UTC]
My parents may have influenced me, but I made y own choice in the end. You are not one to deny it, you do not know me.
Your knowledge may be superior, but I do keep up best I can.
And when a president does something like what Obama did, It tends to be on the news.
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misteryA555 In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-09 01:41:00 +0000 UTC]
Listen
I know that you made your own choice
because I did to
I'm a member of the Green Party
and no one even know they exist
'Doing the best you can'
Does not mean you can go around
and tell me my information is false
because you may not have said it directly
But you sure as heck implied it XD
Look
The news makes you hate the President
No matter how awesome they are
(Which Obama isn't really that great
Hes more neutral)
And when the next President comes into power
They're going to say something about him
That will make you hate him too
And it may be the exact same thing they did to Obama
or it may be worse
But yeah
Just wait until a new President comes into power
and you'll see what I'm talking about
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to misteryA555 [2012-07-09 01:46:34 +0000 UTC]
green party? I must admit I've never heard of them. What are their main points?
with all due respect, you told me directly that my information was false.
Yes, the media does seem flimsy. But most sensible people are able to sift through the glossed-up stuff
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misteryA555 In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-09 01:51:29 +0000 UTC]
Their main concern is the environment
and the reason you've never heard of them
is because they need donations to run
and they almost never get enough money
...
its also full of nut-jobs
I said most of the information was false
but there was a bit of truth in there
I was trying to urge you to find out
What that truth was
Oh trust me
No one can sift through
If they could
Gossip magazines would be extinct
How I wish they were though XD
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to misteryA555 [2012-07-09 02:01:51 +0000 UTC]
I see. The title 'green' makes a whole lot more sense now.
would you suggest a site?
yeah, those things are simply crap, a waste of money, paper and ink
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misteryA555 In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-09 02:04:54 +0000 UTC]
It really does
As for a site
There was one that really cleared things up
but I forgot what it was
It did have the word 'advocate' in it
Or at leas t a synonym to that
They really are
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to misteryA555 [2012-07-09 02:16:54 +0000 UTC]
lol well if you ever find it, please do let me know
Oh, my. We agreed on something...
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misteryA555 In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-09 02:19:30 +0000 UTC]
I certainly will
We'll agree on lots of things
if that's what we devoted our time to XD
But instead we shared our views
and it played out
Just as I wanted
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to misteryA555 [2012-07-09 02:34:33 +0000 UTC]
thank you.
I am glad that the arguement has come to an end we are both satisfied with, even though I never expected it to finish so quick
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misteryA555 In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-09 03:02:02 +0000 UTC]
'welcome ^___^
Yeah
It did finish quickly
Which is good
but now I need a new thing
To jog my brain with
hmmm.....
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to misteryA555 [2012-07-09 03:02:52 +0000 UTC]
lol I think I'll just go take a bath XD
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neil78b In reply to ??? [2012-06-21 03:59:41 +0000 UTC]
Another example of ignorant people, instead of making something positive to show the world, we get negative stuff like this. I actually feel sorry for the hands that made this.
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to neil78b [2012-07-07 01:50:10 +0000 UTC]
you are not one to talk. We may speak our minds, and I am envious of this artist who had the courage to make this, let alone share it. So don't you DARE start telling this artist they cannot put this up because it opposes YOUR views.
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misteryA555 In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-08 03:26:01 +0000 UTC]
All he said was we should use our energy positively
and you accuse him of forcing this person to take down their work
I believe you owe him an apology
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to misteryA555 [2012-07-08 03:38:36 +0000 UTC]
I made no claim of the sort. I said they were being unreasonable and if anyone should apologize to anyone it should be this deviant to the artist
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misteryA555 In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-08 17:30:02 +0000 UTC]
Well they were not
They were just asking
for people to spend their time
Positively
instead of using it negatively
Which is a very smart thing to say
if not overdone
So please don't snap at others
When they just want people to stop fighting
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to misteryA555 [2012-07-09 00:50:34 +0000 UTC]
You are overusing the word 'snap' I believe. Snapping is viciously attacking one's point, in extreme matters. I am doing nothing of the sort. You cannot say you follow this advice yourself. You would stand up for yourself and others, you are doing so as we speak. I am not fighting. There is a difference between an arguement and a fight. If you are as smart as you claim to be, you should know as much. I believe the point WAS overdone and so I defended the artist, as you defend the commentor. Is there any problem with that?
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TheDevilsBlush In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-11 06:20:49 +0000 UTC]
I have to say I agree with you. I find this president to be arrogant, I mean...as far as I remember, I dont recall any president being so glorified as him. And you're right, he will only be voted back into office because of skin color...its sad really. He uses tax payers dollars for his vacations and says sorry to fucking everything! I think it was the fact that some Soldiers pissed on a Taliban's dead body after they killed him, and he said sorry for that. OH but god forbid he demands something in return for all the soldiers who have been dragged through the streets and had their heads chopped off. He's a weak president.
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to TheDevilsBlush [2012-07-11 14:44:30 +0000 UTC]
thanks. You really know your stuff, glad to see your willing to speak out
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misteryA555 In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-09 01:15:26 +0000 UTC]
Oh I am FAR from smart
You should've know that since I gave you a link
To two WAY smarter people
You silly person XD
I've called it an argument
Many many many times
and yet you haven't said anything
Until now
and I assume that's because you have no come back
but I could be wrong
I've only used it in the sense of 'Debate'
not at all as in 'fight'
So I have no idea why you've brought this up
in the first place
In my sense 'snap'
Means typing something in anger
Not full on fighting
I believe that was a miscommunication on my part
I would follow the advice
I usually do
Unless, of course, the person I'm talking to
Goes in circles over and over again
As you're doing
Then I take a route that most parents take
and try using a more 'less formal' way of typing
because that seems to be the only way
Some people will retain any information
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to misteryA555 [2012-07-09 01:41:37 +0000 UTC]
NOw, only a smart person would make such points as those. Do not underestimate yourself.
that's all well with me, it is just too many people use the word 'fight' in a negative sense.
how exactly have I been circling? I would like two examples.
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misteryA555 In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-09 01:45:06 +0000 UTC]
Well the Obama vacation thing you've brought up a couple of times
and you also seem to keep accusing me
of blaming one people/group
and I keep having to explain that it isn't
one person/groups fault
and no
I am not smart
I'm the one person you meet
You only does well in life
Accidentally
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to misteryA555 [2012-07-09 01:56:25 +0000 UTC]
bringing up is not the same thing as circling. And I never exactly get what you mean by the person/group thing. Plus, no one's forcing you to re-explain things.
do not underestimate yourself. That is how you fall behind
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misteryA555 In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-09 02:07:57 +0000 UTC]
Uhh.....
bringing up something again and again
is a definition of circling
so....
I meant that there is no one person to blame
and no one group to blame
It is partly everyone 's fault
And many people had a part in it
Did that clear it up?
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to misteryA555 [2012-07-09 02:15:48 +0000 UTC]
My understanding of circling is making a POINT over and over in the SAME DISCUSSION. I brought up that point in several different arguements, and they were all relevant.
I suppose, though the figureheads really do tend to have the blame, since their actions seem to matter to everyone else
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misteryA555 In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-09 02:18:13 +0000 UTC]
Well then I believe
That that was more miscommunication
My apologies
Yeah
The world is a truly evil place
We must always find someone else to blame
Someone besides ourselves
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Violetthefox0001 In reply to misteryA555 [2012-07-09 02:21:49 +0000 UTC]
alrighty then!
I suppose it's not simply the world, but humans in general have serious issues. We are gifted, and yet, cursed with the power to overcome instinct. We can go either bad or good. And it's always easier to choose bad.
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misteryA555 In reply to Violetthefox0001 [2012-07-09 02:30:31 +0000 UTC]
That's a wonderful way to put it
You really have a way with words
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