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Darth Revan vs Darth Nihilus-Colored version.Pencils: Edgar E Pena
Colors and BG: Largo Intergala
Heres the b&w version: clarkspark.deviantart.com/art/β¦
EDIT: I tweaked the exposure a bit to allow the colors of the clothes really stand out. I really like the way this one turned out. On a side note my next one might be Darth Malak vs Darth Sion? We shall see.
Characters are copyrighted LucasArts.
EDIT: Had to add watermark, too many thieves. :/
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Revan was the leader of the Sith army, including the Sith triumverete, where Nihilus was just second ranking, and Kreia was first ranking. He probably fought him to show him "I'm leader, you're subbordinate."
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Nihilus could destroy a planet and did so on multiple occasions. Nuff said.
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No that is not "nuff said" as he didn't develope that ability until much later. Furthermore, he could only use that ability against a large concentration of life, not against individual people or all those people that invaded his ship would have been eaten alive.
Revan invented the thought-bomb and the rule of two, both later utilized by Darth Bane to -kill hundreds of force users and lock them in an eternity of torment until the end of existence-
Revan was the -leader- and in his order only the strong led. It is obvious he was stronger than Nihilus.
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I'd still bet on the guy that could kill billions. And there were still plenty of survivors of the thought bomb.
"and in his order, only the strong led". The leaders also were constantly being killed off by more powerful underlings. Revan was "killed" by Malak. It took 3 people to kill Nihilus, and they were all unique in the force. I consider this a deus-ex-machina that was a little too convenient.
Plus Nihilus' mask is cooler than revan's.
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I'll point out that Nihilus' ability doesn't work on a small scale.
=Revan was "killed" by Malak.= In a sneak attack -by a starship, from another starship- which does not contest a skill of the individual. Malak lost to Revan on two separate occasions, so the point it a little moot. And, actually, Nihilus was killed by the Exile, an astro-droid and G0T0. Or maybe he wasn't? There is nothing about that fight that we can plausibly say except the Exile was the one that defeated him.
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Well the games are different because they're games so the difficulty is relative and they couldn't make any character too powerful.
I'll take a nuke over a million firecrackers.
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=Well the games are different because they're games so the difficulty is relative and they couldn't make any character too powerful.= Exactly. The only thing about them that's canon are the things the main character do. It's canon that Nihilus lost to the Exile, nobody else.
=I'll take a nuke over a million firecrackers.= If this analogy is about Nihilus or Revan, I have to say why? Nihilus was defeated by Exile, who was a subordinate to Revan. That's a second example of powerscaling. One is Revan > Triumverate > Nihilus. The secon dis Revan > Exile > Nihilus.
Anyway, I've lost my interest with this debate.
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Nihilus lost to the Exile because he draws energy from the Force Users he fights, and the Exile is a hole in the Force. A void if you will, which Nihilus tried to draw on and found nothing. That's why he collapsed at first when he tried to.
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Exactly.
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Darth Nihlus was defeated by the Jedi Exile, because she like he was a wound in the Force. She like he has the capeablity of destroying the Force.
Revan could not have defeated Nihlus.
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I realise that this comment is digging up a discussion that happened years ago, but it had to be said.
"screenXsurfer" - the only reason you lost interest was because you were clearly loosing.
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Yes he could. Revan masters Saber fighting better than Nihilus, so it would have been a tie. And i don't think that the 2 cooled Sith Lords would fight eachother. They would together rise for power anr tule the galaxy together with their minions Malak, Sion, Traya and Bastila!
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No, he couldn't. Revan's saber skill would certainly out do Nihilus, if fighting on only those terms Revan would win hands down, however it would never get to a position in which their could be a tie because Revan could never have faced Nihlus in one-on-combat because Nihlus would have consumed him because of his strength in the force - as he did an entire planet. The Exile didn't defeat Nihilus because of her skill, but because Nihlius was unable to consume her because she, like him, was a wound in the force.
And Nihlius wouldn't have ruled the galaxy with Revan, he had no desire to. As Kreia said: "He cares nothing for the Sith or its teachings⦠or the Jedi. And when the Jedi are dead, he will feed on the galaxy, the Republic, and eventually, consume the Sith as well." [[link]
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o.O We should have sent Nihilus against the Sith Emperor in the Unknown Regions!
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True lol; I wonder what the Sith Emperor would have made of another Sith Lord who could consume a planet, more so one who could do it with out a lengthy ritual, or what would the Emperor have done had Kreia being sucseful in her plan to use either Darth Nihlus or the Jedi Exile to destroy the Force it's self, haha, the Emperor would have been screwed.
Though I'm glad that didn't happen as my Sith Warrior in SWTOR would never have been born lol.
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Lolz! Revan is powerful, but Nihilus is...crazy at best. And the Emperor vs Nihilus would equal the Emperor's doom.
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That about ruling was a joke-ish thing.
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Ah, I see! lol
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You can't say one is more powerful than another just because one came before the other. By that logic jar jar is more powerful than Luke Skywalker.
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I lied, I'm still interested.
"You can't say one is more powerful than another just because one came before the other. "
Good thing I haven't.
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sigh.
"Nihilus was defeated by Exile, who was a subordinate to Revan. That's a second example of powerscaling. One is Revan > Triumverate > Nihilus. The secon dis Revan > Exile > Nihilus."
So by your very own logic. Paper beats rock, and rock beats scissors, so that means that paper beats scissors.
And if i might add that one being a subordinate does not mean one is inferior. You assume Exile < Revan just because exile was a subordinate to revan. So Anakin < Qui Gon?
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"sigh." Don't be dramatic.
"So by your very own logic. Paper beats rock, and rock beats scissors, so that means that paper beats scissors."
Uh, absolutely not. If you understand what the ">" symbol means, Revan > Nihilus. X > Y > Z therefor X > Z.
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And if i might add that one being a subordinate does not mean one is inferior. You assume Exile < Revan just because exile was a subordinate to revan. So Anakin < Qui Gon?"
I guess you're forgetting earlier parts of this debate. I will reiterate, "Revan was the -leader- and in his order only the strong led." That was the whole point to Revan's early philosophy. That the strongest of the order was the master and everybody else trained under the master until they had enough power to overthrow him.
Excerpt from "Darth Bane: Path of Destruction"
=Holocron of Darth Revan=
Those who accept the power of the dark side must also accept the challenge of holding on to it. By its very nature the dark side invites rivalry and strife. This is the greatest strength of the Sith: it culls the weak from our order. Yet this rivalry can also be our greatest weakness. The strong must be careful lest they be overwhelmed by the ambitions of those working beneath them in concert. Any master who instructs more than one apprentice in the ways of the dark side is a fool. In time, the apprentices will unite their strengths and overthrow the master. It is inevitable; axiomatic. That is why each master must have only one student.
This is also the reason there can only be one Dark Lord. The Sith must be ruled by a single leader: the very embodiment of the strength and power of the dark side. If the leader grows weak another must rise to seize the mantle. The strong rule; the weak are meant to serve. This is the way it must be.
-Darth Revan
Since Revan ruled his order unchallenged, it is logical that we come to the conclusion that he was the most powerful. This order included the Sith Triumverate(Kreia, Sion and Nihilus), which he created. If Nihilus was stronger than Revan, he would have been the Sith Lord after killing Revan. The simple fact that he required Sion's help in defeating Kreia is evident that he isn't as strong as you make him out to be.
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i guess you can't change ignorance over the internet.
This isn't about star wars anymore for me.
This is more about you assuming x>y>z therefore x>z
Time for real life examples. And this is true.
I ALWAYS beat my friend chase at ping pong. But my friend baker ALWAYS beats me. But chase beats baker consistently.
Holy crap!
This is dumb. you cant just assume crap that isn't true just because you think it helps your argument.
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I am overawed by your superior logic. I have no choice but to concede. /sarcasm.
Good job at ignoring my previous post and giving this straw man logical fallacy. You continue to ignore that the setting of Darth Revan's sith order allows for X>Z to be true.
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Nihilus vs Revan
Is this the first time this type of debate has appeared on one of your contributions?
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yeah
After playin some of both I couldn't resist drawing them!
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Hey Doc Baltar This came out nice. It's crazy how well done colors can change artwork eh.
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Thxs m8, appreciate dat.
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This is the best I have seen in a very, very long time.
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Man that's truely jawdropping stuff!
Incredible!
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Thxs Cpt' much appreciated.
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Very imperssive, looks very realistic.
This is one of the best KOTOR II drawings.
Did you use photoshop?
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BG was bryce, characters were PS. Thxs 4 lookin'
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Thats pretty sweet. It be kewl if you had some of the lightsabers reflecting in the background since there so close.
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