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Curvyhats — Stereotypes exist for a reason
Published: 2011-07-28 15:07:17 +0000 UTC; Views: 1290; Favourites: 45; Downloads: 9
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Just because it's a stereotype doesn't mean there's absolutely no truth in it.I'm not saying that it's always going to be true, but in order to even begin a stereotype, part of the population has to fit it.
It's stupid for people to freak out over every stereotype and say 'THAT'S NOT TRUE AT ALL'. Okay, so now there aren't any black people in gangs, all blondes are smart, all Asians are stupid, etc? No. Some people conform perfectly to the stereotype.
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Stereotypes are stupid anyway... There's nothing original in this kind of people...
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The reason being to make punchlines for joke intentionally meant o be offensive. That is it.
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They're just stereotypes, I'm not offended. I wish I'm a stereotype.
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Yeah, stereotypes pretty much ARE the truth with maybe a few lies and exaggerations added over time.
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i get what you're saying. some people might not fit in stereotypes but there are people that fit into stereotypes just right.
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Well, most Russian stereotypes I know are not true at all. I should know, me being russian, my family being russian, my friends being russian.
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I'm the stereotypical Internet Bitch with no life and no friends!
Am I cool yet?
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well,this is a interesting concept.what's so crazy about stereotypes is that it makes you feel that everybody goes through them one way or another,whether truth or not.
but then again, everybody can't break every stereotype known to earth.
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I agree with you so hard.
Thank you for this.
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how am I the bad artist? hmph says the racist one
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The link in my sig? It's a joke link. If I click it, it'll go to my page, you click it goes to yours.
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I remember back in the old days they use to have stereotypes on cartoons
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Stereotypes are stupid, and do not work for the population(s) half the time.
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"Just because it's a stereotype doesn't mean it's not true."
Actually, that's exactly what it means. Stereotypes, by definition, are characteristics you use to apply to an entire group. You can't say that all blacks are thugs because there are examples which prove otherwise, thus making the stereotype wrong. Thugs come in all colors, but just because a few are black doesn't make the stereotype true, even if its in that particular case. As I've said, it applies to the whole group.
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I was shopping the other day and this black family in front of me was buying 30 packets of kool-aid, a watermelon, and paying with foodstamps. Was an effort not to laugh.
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THEY FORGOT THE FRIED CHICKEN
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Yeah it was pretty wild, I just went up there to buy cookie dough really late at night and get treated to something totally different.
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You have to think critically about them, you can't just blindly follow them. For all you know, a stereotype could have just mean made up after some dude saw a psychopath Jew, and then assumed all Jews are psychos. Like you said, they can be true, but not always.
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I do think people should think about them, and learn not to follow them so blindly. However, I also think that people should stop shitting their pants whenever someone mentions a stereotype, and saying 'THEY'RE NOT LIKE THAT'. Guess what? Some of them are.
When I was younger I assumed all black people were murderers because that's what my dad brought me up to think due to his own fear of them. I've since figured out that it's bullshit most of the time, but there ARE black murderers, and if you walk into an unsafe, African-American community at night, you might run into that.
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Indeed. I have nothing further to say.
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I think that the problem airing with what you are trying to say and what people are thinking you are saying is the way you are saying it.
"Just because it's a stereotype doesn't mean it's not true"
Yes it does actually XD
Because it is a STEREOTYPE.
It isn't a fact.
The fact it's a stereotype indicated that it is a belief based on someone's observation or opinion, but it isn't based on fact.
And the other problem that makes stereotypes untrue is how they are formed in the first place.
The person who made the stereotype was only looking at one thing to try and validate their claim, but they were not looking at all the other factors <__<
And why would you be sick of someone saying a stereotype isn't true.
It WOULDN'T be true because of the way the stereotype goes:
The stereotype will say that "____ people do ____".
Either it IS true, or it is NOT true.
If an entire group of people will break up the stereotype, this will mean that the stereotype is not true, as is the case with every stereotype we've come across.
EITHER it is TRUE that "black people like chicken" or it is NOT true. -> Well, there are some vegetarian black people who choose it people they do not like the meaty foods.
They do not like nor eat chicken.
This isn't an EXCEPTION: it is proof of the stereotype being untrue.
It's actually basic logic really
I think that you're making the ideas/meanings of stereotypes more subjective. But Stereotypes are statements that try to allude to what they deem 'fact'. It isn't saying that SOME people will do ___ because they fit a category: it is saying that ___peoples WILL do ___ because they fit in the category.
I WILL say that there is a reason that stereotypes exist: but the fact there is reason behind it doesn't mean that the stereotype is true.
The reason that stereotypes exist is simply because the people who made the stereotype only focused on one factor and made their OPINION only because on their own specified observation.
That's really the only fact behind it.
I WILL say that stereotypes although are not TRUE in their basis, there was a reason that the stereotype did pop up, and that reasoning is an indicator of what to expect.
It is true that observations made by other people can be reoccurring.
This doesn't made their conclusions as for the REASON they made the generalization true, but that doesn't mean their observations themselves were true or not. <__<
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Yeah, I obviously worded that incorrectly XD I'm going to go fix it. I don't mean it's true (a fact) in all cases, I just mean that some people do fit the stereotype and people shouldn't get all butthurt whenever someone mentions it and say 'NO THAT'S NOT TRUE'. Sure, it might just barely be true, but it's very very likely true in some sense.
I'm sure there's at least one dumb blonde girl, a smart Asian boy, a black guy in a gang, etc.
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My only problem ussualy with people that might fit, is when it's less that they do it naturally, and more when some do it to fit in T^T
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Yeah, it's kind of a shame.
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While it's true that they exist for a reason, it may not be that the population fit it. Let's take the "dumb blond" stereotype for example, it can be traced to media for modern views. Historically, there are possibilities to where it originated: the upper class had more education and darker hair from staying inside, the lower class had less education and sun-bleached hair. Another is from the Greeks who admired blond hair and would dye it, but it was seen as vain to do so (not unintelligent, just vain). Most of these historical sources are only guesses and are unreliable. Where we actually see the stereotype take off is in character portrayal in movies/commercials/books/plays/etc.
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Yes, and that means the stereotype exists for a reason. It's old and not very true anymore, but there are still people who aren't the brightest bulbs, and are blonde.
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Yes, but that's a source from media primarily, not from (reliable) observed people. And I'm willing to bet there's the same amount of other hair colors.
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I should hope there's stupid people of different hair colors. Not because I get pleasure out of seeing stupid people, but it'd be worrisome if there weren't.
Also, the media does have a lot of influence on stereotypes. I think some of the 'dumb blonde' thing comes from celebrities, who happen to be blonde (because blonde is considered pretty and that makes it easier to work in media) acted stupid sometimes either by accident or to look 'cute' or something.
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It could be influenced by celebrities for modern audiences, but the source is before that. There are plays and writings from the late 1800s that illustrate the stereotype.
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Like knowing the difference between edible and poisonous berries.
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Exactly! 
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Which is sad, because those bright colored frogs are adorable.
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Well aren't you off to a nice and dandy start to DeviantART.
Are you telling me that you would assume nothing about a black person that you saw in an elevator? If you did not, then your stamp doesn't hold any water. If you did, then that's racism. So you can choose between being a racist and having a fictitious stamp. I am not giving an ad-hominem argument, I am simply laying out the logic that you have presented to me, and the trap that you are putting yourself in.
And yes, I see that your primary defense is along the lines of "well, not ALL stereotypes are true" every single time that someone brings up an example. Fine. Give me some that are true and I will easily dispel them. If I were to dispel any examples right now, then you would simply rebut that those are among the ones that aren't true.
Because, even though most drug users are white, most incarcerated drug users are black. The stereotype is that black people use drugs. Are you going to sit here and argue that racism didn't play any part at all in getting that stereotype started?
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Thank you, sergeant sarcasm!
I think you're reading some of my comments wrong. I don't mean that 'not all stereotypes aren't true'. I'm saying that most of them exist because at some point in time, at least one group of people were conformed to the stereotype, which was brought into existence because of that.
And no, racism DID help create that stereotype, I agree. Some black people are drug users. So, that stereotype wasn't pulled out of thin air is what I'm saying.
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"Some black people are drug users. So, that stereotype wasn't pulled out of thin air is what I'm saying."
"Some" is completely meaningless. Of course "some" black people use drugs. "Some" white people use drugs, but you do not see a stereotype concerning white people and drug usage. A stereotype takes it one step further.
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"Stereotype; noun; a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing."
Such a stereotype is that all Muslims are terrorists. Islam is one of the most peaceful religions in the world, but because a few people claiming to be Muslim decided to bomb the Twin Towers, people assume that MOST/ALL Muslims are terrorists. Not "some", MOST/ALL. Yes, "some" Muslims actually are terrorists; like, one out of every 100,000 followers of Islam. "Some" Christians are terrorists. Did you forget about what happened in the capital of Norway less than a week ago? That guy was a Christian. You don't see a stereotype of all Christians being terrorists.
You said, right in your description,
"Just because it's a stereotype doesn't mean it's not true."
Then give me one that is "true". Until you can prove to me that there are "true" stereotypes out there, your stamp holds no water. Remember, these are stereotypes. I shouldn't have to put what a stereotype actually is into perspective. A stereotype is a belief that someone holds, which he/she applies to everyone that looks or acts a particular way.
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A stereotype does not necessarily need to be true, only that it has to influence the way that you act based on an oversimplified understanding of a group. Say for example that before you were introduced to a woman you had never met before you had overheard that she was on her period. Chances are that you would probably be careful of what you said or did because you "know" that women are bitchy and/or overemotional on their period. It's largely true, and as such we accept it as a stereotype.
Secondly stereotypes do not need to be racist, sexist, etc. as there are many that are not grounded in hate or fear for that group. Saying that all black people like chicken is not always true, but there's nothing racist about it. It's just a funny generalization that turned into a stereotype because a lot of black people do like it.
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Straw-man argument. I was specifically referring to hateful stereotypes, and not stereotypes in general. Granted, I should have specifically articulated that.
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Fair enough, though you do kind of present an unbeatable argument asking someone to prove that a "hateful stereotype" is true, when they are by definition a stereotype that is born out of hate instead of experience and some truth. I can't argue that there is truth to things like "all Muslims are terrorists" or "all Mexicans are lazy" because I'd agree that most of those are born out of ignorance.
Also I'm not really sure why you drew a link to the "Average Asian" clip, as the joke is more about American people being too stupid to believe that an Asian person is an American born citizen. There aren't really any hateful stereotypes in it at all.
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The video was meant to be humorous, nothing more. You were referring to stereotypes in general, so that video expanded on what you were saying in a funny way.
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Fair enough, though you do kind of present an unbeatable argument...
That's a good thing. 
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lol? Thanks for reminding me why I don't watch MadTV.
Really though, despite her poor arguments you haven't really refuted the point that, "Stereotypes exist for a reason". The fact is that her argument is truly unbeatable as she refuses to use any absolutes at all. You could say it's irrefutable because there's no actual opinion.
"Some things are true some of the time because someone from a group did something that someone else saw." It's basically her point, which is essentially impossible to beat, and thus not really anything you can debate.
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The argument that you are citing by her is only recent. Originally, she was merely saying "Just because it's a stereotype doesn't mean it's not true" and "Stereotypes exist for a reason", which strongly implied that she was arguing in defense of the legitimacy of said stereotypes.
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lol and I think your prodding only served to show what she actually believed, which isn't much at all. Heck, I've got better things to do than defend other people's logic. I just enjoy the debate.
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Mm, perhaps I worded that incorrectly. In my description, I'm meaning to say that at least some people do conform to the stereotype, and that people should stop freaking out over it and trying to pretend that nobody does. I'll go fix that.
And yes, of course some white people do drugs. Along with Asians, Native Americans, and all other races. And I've heard a stereotype about drugs for all of them.
Of course not all Muslims are extremists, of course not all blondes are dumb, Asians smart, etc.
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