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Description The Exile and Revan
If you`ve seen some gameplay video of TOR you understand T_T

Update! I know the canon, people! I`m a fan! Of course I know it and there is no need to write me Revan's for Bastila and Impossible relationships! and so on. Really. It's just my opinion, my idea about these two, if you like it then I'm very glad and love you, if you don't please keep it to yourself. Thank you.
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Comments: 125

DancinFox In reply to ??? [2011-10-01 18:25:14 +0000 UTC]

thank you!)))
i lost the link, sorry T_T
I hope Karpyshyn won`t disappoint us...
We can only guess what happend with them there.

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GoneRampant In reply to DancinFox [2011-10-05 15:24:49 +0000 UTC]

Well, until the novel comes out next month...

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Mariel-Sylventari In reply to ??? [2011-09-22 08:21:30 +0000 UTC]

Я - просто лишний узник в "зазеркалье",
Я - пешка, символ шахматной доски.
Пробиться выше мне уже не дали,
Здесь сплошь и рядом только двойники.
В чужих объятьях холодно и скверно,
Твоих лишилась, как подчас мне жаль,
Но сохранить кому-то только верность
Так глупо, если память потерял
Изгнанник здесь... Ох, как же все уныло!
Как надоела эта беготня -
Я наигралась, хоть и часто ныла,
Держу уж факел, хоть боюсь огня.
Я стану выше, стану и сильнее
В борьбе за то, что мучает во сне,
Что часто мне больную душу греет,
На что для нас когда-то был запрет.

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DancinFox In reply to Mariel-Sylventari [2011-09-22 15:44:51 +0000 UTC]


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SpectorKnight [2011-09-22 03:20:37 +0000 UTC]

I'm not sure what's going on between these two, but it's a wonderful picture.

Also, mind telling me what terrible fate Bioware created for two of my favourite fictional characters ever? I've been ignoring TOR for the most part, but I sense a great disturbance in the Force has occured.

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DancinFox In reply to SpectorKnight [2011-09-22 15:47:07 +0000 UTC]

thank you!

From what I`ve heard their fate is terrible indeed T_T Exile is a ghost, Revan will be killed by some sith.

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Pittlers In reply to DancinFox [2014-06-28 19:25:24 +0000 UTC]

 Well, a whole team of the empires best barely took him out, and even then, he became one with the force or something...  

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UploaderBizz In reply to DancinFox [2011-09-26 19:42:07 +0000 UTC]

really? I regret seeing your art now
but its awesome.

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DancinFox In reply to UploaderBizz [2011-10-01 18:31:35 +0000 UTC]

thank you!))
I also regret seeing that gameplay video about all these T_T

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Seeshi-suin In reply to DancinFox [2011-09-23 05:15:44 +0000 UTC]

Ugh, seriously?!? That's awful...

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DancinFox In reply to Seeshi-suin [2011-10-01 18:31:51 +0000 UTC]

yes T_T

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SpectorKnight In reply to DancinFox [2011-09-22 19:10:58 +0000 UTC]

Bleh.

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LordRyus In reply to ??? [2011-09-21 20:55:40 +0000 UTC]

Sigh... I was so looking forward to SWTOR until I saw that same spoiler (including Revan getting looted for gear by the Sith Players)... IT was horribly written and totally bastardized both characters.

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DancinFox In reply to LordRyus [2011-09-22 15:48:55 +0000 UTC]

agree agree agree

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LordRyus In reply to DancinFox [2011-09-22 23:40:08 +0000 UTC]

What struck me as the most offensive of all was the reasoning behind it. Which to me felt "Lets get those old characters as quickly as possible so we can focus on the characters "Jedi Knight", "Jedi Consular", "Smuggler", "Republic Trooper", "Sith Warrior" "Sith Inquisitor", "Bounty Hunter", and "Imperial Agent".

It's as if an entire generation of video gamers and fans where ignored and the characters they loved purposely removed the plot as forcefully and quickly as possible regardless of how it changed them from whom they where, just so they could market the game to 14 year olds whom never played KotOR 1 and 2... DIDN'T THE FOOLS LOOK AT THE LINES AT ALL THE EVENTS MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN LINE WERE 25+ AND LIKELY PLAYED KOTOR 1 & 2! and having a little more back ground plot won't hurt sales at all... everyone could have gone on missions to investigate what truly happened in the Jedi Civil War and been given more than enough info that way to not bastardize Revan and Exile. I have no problem if they died... but this felt just cheap and dirty. Plot should always be more important than character but if the plot sucks then keep the good charters alive to make up for it people, since no one is going to want to play a game for story with bad story unless there is hook (like Revan or Exile )

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raynetempura In reply to LordRyus [2012-12-22 23:33:35 +0000 UTC]

I disagree completely. I don't think they were trying to destroy anything or get rid of anything. What they were trying to do was tell a different story (those of the player characters, which is what BioWare has always been about, telling the story of the PLAYER). The grand setting of the whole story is close to Revan and Meetra timewise, but the point is... their stories had already been told through KOTOR 1 and 2 and the book. Them tying Revan and Meetra in is only a way of showing the connectedness of the Emperor to the plot now (and likely giving a nod to KOTOR fans). I have played the story of Revan and Meetra, I was ready to start a new story. I'm sure a lot of other people were as well. Not to mention, it would be very difficult to tell any more of Revan and Meetra's story as an MMO. It sounds like what you really wanted was for them to have made another RPG...

Which is, as you know, a completely different type of game. I don't think the story sucks at all. In fact, they gave us more story (especially more PERSONAL story) than any MMO has in history. Every class has a unique story and companions. Our tale takes us across 13 planets, each with a unique plot itself. The Republic is at war with the Empire, which has been a long time coming and the reason Revan and Meetra even had a role in history. Perhaps they should have picked a different time period completely? Perhaps, but SWG already touched on the future. We could have gone further into the past, but they needed a way to tie in both the Empire and Republic. And every storyteller knows every interesting story, every story has conflict... to carry hundreds of thousands of players together in conflict, a big conflict and literal conflict is always best... especially to incorporate PVP.

Also, so what Sith were looting Revan's corpse? In my playthrough of KOTOR, Revan was a female and she romanced Carth! In others', Revan followed the dark side. That's definitely not canon, and neither is Revan's defeat in TOR. Besides, if you had played SWTOR as a Sith and done that dungeon, you would know that Revan never died. He merely disappeared. There was no corpse to loot. There was no body. Many people wonder if he escaped (i.e. the Republic's version of events where he leaves to go do his own thing happens) or if he merely returned to the Force (i.e. like Obi-Wan, Yoda, Anakin, etc). It is widely accepted that Revan is not dead by any natural standards.

Besides, I don't see what bastardizing was done. What happened had all been told in the book that was released to connect and finish Revan and Meetra's stories. Did you have something specific in mind that you wanted to happen and it didn't? They didn't really give any hints or suggestions that things went another way. Frankly, they left us hanging on any ideas of either character's future. And technically, BioWare didn't need to incorporate them at all considering it was 300 years later... I just can't fathom how or why you're so upset.

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Pittlers In reply to raynetempura [2014-06-28 19:22:32 +0000 UTC]

 I tend to agree with you on this one.  It was an appropriate ending for them.  I was shocked at first but the more I think about it the more it fits.  Both in terms of the story and for business. 

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raynetempura In reply to Pittlers [2014-06-28 20:33:29 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much! To be honest... I completely forgot about writing this! It's a sensitive topic it seems so it's nice to know someone agrees with you.

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LordRyus In reply to raynetempura [2013-01-16 16:07:35 +0000 UTC]

Sorry for late reply, PC died on cell ATM. All start with bastardizing, virtually every line of dialing Kriea had was retconned by the book, the exile was turned into a fan girl when the entire point of the game was her becomming her own person equal to Revan, Revan turned into Anakin with his ranting to the with players (oh BTW they patched his "death" you see I posted that during the beta when he did died and died 15 levels earlier), next off exile and revan where written to be two sides of the same coin but instead well only biowares character mattered to bioware, Revan even became a religious symbol... sigh

Anyways the whole problem is the 300 year time jump. That was forced writing by any stretch of the imagination, I mean really the emperor postponing the invasion for 300 years just cause it was the original plan and very poor revan mind readings... sorry don't buy it. Yeah the with sith intelligence network just missed the republic in ruins, we know they had spies and yet... sigh. Sorry the 300 year time jump was an excuse to have the republic get stronger to have an equal footing vs the empire first and foremost and excuse to not write much of anything about characters beyond Revan and his closest minions. Sorry that isn't bold writting but half assing it, I would have respected them so much more if they actually tried to incorporate more of 1 and 2 but it was just the easiest way to avoid hard writing of fitting in what I may have done and instead went for who far do we have to time jump to when my past choices don't matter any more... sorry that was the same shit bioware pulled in mass effect 3 of not giving fur filling the promise of having my choices matter and effecting the ending in multiple ways (instead we got 3 buttons). Bioware promised then recanted, so why should I care about SWTOR if nothing I did in KOTOR I and ii really effected it... bioware pulled the same mistake Lucas did, the orginial series was meant for all ages but 30 years later he made 3 kid movies instead of movies for everyone. They sold out a generation of fans, pure plain and simple. SWTOR is really just a sellout to new gamers when teasing old ones out of there cash by promises of Revan and hk but then not really giving us anything close to what Regan or HK where to us but instead something for an 11 year old memo player.

Sorry but without the tie in, or hell a good plot even, no one cared about 2/3rds of the new characters. So yes while the game was about them, there characters where built upon loose sand with no real foundation. The game was a fools attempt at a grandieos universe that failed in every way... here's to Disney rectonning them in the future, even if they do a poor job of for this game killing my childhood I'll support it

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raynetempura In reply to LordRyus [2013-01-16 22:57:22 +0000 UTC]

Okay, well... let's just agree to disagree.

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LordRyus In reply to LordRyus [2013-01-16 16:11:42 +0000 UTC]

Damn cell phone auto spell check... Revan not Regan xD

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DancinFox In reply to LordRyus [2011-10-01 18:37:39 +0000 UTC]

You wrote so many things here, but I hope you excuse me for my short answer. I absolutely agree with your every word!

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Ring-127 In reply to DancinFox [2011-10-15 01:29:04 +0000 UTC]

Wait, what happened, I'm lost here. What is Bioware doing to destroy the most bamf characters in Star Wars history?

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LordRyus In reply to LordRyus [2011-09-22 23:41:02 +0000 UTC]

*"Lets get RID OF those...

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