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I think this reboot has disappointed in this sense, tooDante at least..
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Can you like stop being gross and sexist? Girls dont exist to be sexualised all the time.
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It's Clearly just a Joke.
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I disagree, Kat was the only thing good about that game. Sad they wasted a perfectly good character with her to highlight 'DONTE'.
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even so, the DMC girls still more badass that Kat. no man can deny that. Kat is more of a support, a guide *running away when danger arise*.
but DMC girls (trish, lady) , they can be a support (more like a rival sometimes), a main attacker, even a spy, theyre all independent women who can stand their own ground, and theyre just so badass, it will never compare to Kat. Kat is a good girl, who have a pure heart, but never compare them to trish or lady....becoz their level are too diffrent.
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A woman is not a whore JUST because of what she wears. Kat serves no purpose in the story outside of being DINO's love interest. Trish,Lady and Nevan can at least defend themselves and have this take no shit attitude that makes them memorable.
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Omg, Some of DmC fan that were fighting with me had no idea of original DMC4 and spewed nonsense.
Seriously guys, if you wanna whine at least play the original to fucking understand why we are raging so much.
Or buy your stupid favorite game, keep it, then shut the fuck up?
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No I understand pretty well. You just MAD because there's no silver haired Dante.
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Boring.
All of you DmC fans are spewing the same bullshit about his hair.
No, We don't care about his fucking hair.
Nor we care about his fucking outfit.
It's because he just is not Dante.
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Your so right!!!!!
The reason I love Trish and Lady is not for the skimpy cloths, but for there great characters. Kat dosnt have that shes just there to be Dante's love interest.
And Kirie in my book is more interesting because shes Neros reason to become strong.
Each DMC girl has there own personaltys, steragths and weakness. Kat just lacks that annnnnnnnd at least Trish, Lady and Kirie don't make postions made out of Squrall semon.
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Exactly. But apparently to these children be it in real life or in the realm of fiction simply wearing inappropriate clothes is enough to be labeled a slut or whore.
Although this image should have taken out Gloria and replace her with Lucia.
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I played the original as well as the reboot. Though nothing could replace the original Dante in my heart, the reboot ain't that bad. Instead of focusing on one element like Dante and the babes, I see both games as a whole. The original DMC portrays Dante as a cheesy and optimistic character that would make jokes despite how bad the situation can be. He's gives me the biggest impression of all. Indirectly we got attached with his demeanor. The gameplay has always been great to me, hands down. There's a high replayability cuz you need to get a full upgrade and the unforgettable Bloody Palace challenge. Boobies got me too but that's secondary.
The reboot takes an interesting turn. Gameplay's were different but generally than the previous one. There's practically only one babe in the game (Lilith looks like a crack smoking prostitute so no). What impresses me the most is their in-depth storyline. We know the city and numerous spots. Every protagonist gets a much needed backstory. Final boss gets a much better reason to enslave humanity than your usual thirst for the power of Sparda. Mundus kept humankind docile and controls the economy because they are endangering themselves. Who could blame him? It's true at some point.
The original and the reboot hits and misses. For me Dante maybe the centerpiece, but he's not the only piece that makes DMC spin. Everything must fall together perfectly to make a great game, original or reboot. Capcom's biggest mistake is that they outsourced the game to NT, which costs a bundle to make with questionable feedbacks. They should've develop the game inhouse and puts original design of Dante into the reboot.
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No, those aren't women. They're typical, big boobed, tight assed, sluttly looking anime girls japan is infamous for. Kat. THAT is a woman.
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Hey, at least they are as badass as the Hero and can protect themselves. Better then weak, Zoophiliac, soujou manga chick.
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zoophiliac? The fuck? And soujou? Bitch! Aint nothing about her japanese!
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I think she meant "Shoujou" as in comics meant for female audience where female main characters fall in love with a typical bad boy, turning that little jerk into an respectable man. Said main character has a tendency to be emotional and helpless at most times. Ergo needs constant saving.
For such comics, some find the saving and crying part romantic. It would've been, if the girl didn't need saving for almost every episode.
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Uh nothing about her is Soujou? Uh ok
1. Always needs saving.
2. Cries like a bitch.
3. Has thing for bad boys.
About Zoophiliac, remember that part about Squirrel semen?
Or you don't even know what typical Soujou chick means?
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Excuse me, don't you mean Shoujo manga chick?
If that's what you say, then Kyrie from DMC4 fits the description better. Whether she fell in love with Dante is ambiguous, just like Old Dante with Lady and Trish. She was following orders from Vergil to support Dante in his role as a Hitman. They had talks like any normal human beings.
To cry like a bitch is to cry over a pimple grown on your face overnight; unreasonable. Kat cries over real life trauma. Okay, so she extract semen out of animals for her voodoo stuff but that don't mean she's zoophiliac. A doctor that takes your poop samples to examine your health don't make him/her a scat fetish.
So she got caught and needs to be rescued in a span of a few missions. You got a problem with this? Have you forgotten that Nero went through the entire game just to save his girlfriend? Case of point: "Kyriiiiiieeeeeee!!!"
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Uh, To point it out you idiot, Kyrie was not one of the main character of the game.
She didn't appear by the side of the main character from the beginning.
The main girl character of DMC are Trish and LAdy,
And as you can see, they are fucking badass.
Kat is also one of the main character.
But look how pathetic it is.
And you also said :"If that's what you say, then Kyrie from DMC4 fits the description better. Whether she fell in love with Dante is ambiguous, just like Old Dante with Lady and Trish. She was following orders from Vergil to support Dante in his role as a Hitman. They had talks like any normal human beings."
Ok women. Did even played DMC4 or at least know the plot? or you just had to butt in with no clue?
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Why isn't Kyrie main girl character? By your logic, she should be because she appears in the first intro scene.
By your logic Lady shouldn't be the main character either because she appears much later and just cross Dante in and out between missions. Fucking badass as she could be, Lady doesn't affect the plot directly, at DMC3 and DMC4. Trish is too, doing useless things at DMC4 and only looks badass.
You want a girl main character? Sheva Alomar from RE5 is your minimum requirement.
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Because Lady and Trish were with him from beginning you idiot.
We even saw them on Anime series.
Kyrie appeared only once.
Still she looks sexy.
And you said in the DMC4 Trish was useless?
Um hello? She was dressed up as Gloria and was spying for Dante?
She even impressed Nero with her moves in the game?
Did you actually saw the plot at all?
They are important aspect of DMC as well as Dante.
You know why?
Cause they are part of the divine comedy?
And they could fight and protect themselves like bosses.
Compare to them, Kat is?
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Kat and Kyrie both look pretty. I do not see the problem of her playing support rather being yet another tough broad. That's the role she plays in the reboot. Kyrie was by Nero’s side since he’s a child. Following your logic, she is a main character, but takes the role of a plot device. You have no qualms about Kyrie but you hated Kat, who is evidently more helpful to the protagonist than Kyrie, who plays the "pathetic" damsel in distress till the end. Your judgment on DmC is overly emotional and biased that stem solely from another reason.
Trish can hold her own. Good for her. But let's not forget what she suppose to do as a spy. You would think that Trish might heard some juicy info within the Order. Care to share with good ol' Dante? Oh, the leader's an old fart named Sanctus! Gotta kill that guy. Anything else? Nothing? Okay, cool. Let's walk around killing more random demons. I'm sure something will come up. Whoa! A giant floating statue of death! Trish, how do we destroy it? You don't know? Oh no! Nero got caught in the statue! Trish, how do we save him? You don't know that too? Have you even heard anything about this Savior in your spying time? What exactly have you been up to? Incredible spy work, Trish. Plot flaw.
I don't hate DMC. I love the characters and I do enjoy the comedy and cheesy lines during my playtime. The franchise has a great potential but Capcom messed it up somehow in its infancy. Hideki Kamiya, the true man behind DMC1 left Capcom and made Bayonetta and had his witch beat the snot out of the half demon. If DMC stays the course, it's only a matter of time Bayonetta's series or similar others will eclipse DMC's series. Fans would abandon DMC, claiming "DMC wasn't what it used to be." They were right to say that.
That's why Capcom reboots DMC. They didn't do it just for laughs, but I do admit it was the right decision but dangerous gamble.
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You don't get my point
Of course I'm not saying that I liked Kyrie!
Hell even I admit that she is one useless character on DMC.
But she only came as, as you stated, only as a plot device.
Hell she even didn't appeared in many scene.
However, Kat stayed with the plot from the beginning. She is considered one on of the main character.
JUst like we know Lady and Trish.
I will let you compare their strength with Kat.
And since the bullshit you spewed about Trish didn't happen on DMC4 it doesn't count. We didn't know what Trish said to Dante or what info she might have leaked to Dante, but we do know is that she was there spying, and didn't even got caught.
Is it me only finds that you keep picking the weakest person on DMC to compare to Kat and not even regarding Lady and Trish?
Most of you blaming us old fan that we don't like change.. blah blah blah..
The thing is none of us would have minded a reboot if they hadn't royally fucked it up.
I mean they had so much to work with the game.
They could have started the DMC plot based on mordern era.
They could have started it from Dantes childhood as Tony Redgrave or even ignore Dante and Start from Sparda.
But no.. they just had to completly fuck up.
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No, I only find it stereotypical of you that you can't seem to accept female main characters playing a different role for a change, as if it's compulsory for them to be a tough broad. I know it's cool and even hot to see girls beating the crap out of the enemies, but couldn't you settle for a little change of pace? You DID claim that I think you fans don't like change. Don't make that come true.
Now here's a common ground that I hope we both can stand on.
Perhaps you think I'm arguing DmC was better than DMC or vice versa. No I don't. DMC is a great, fast-paced hack-and-slash. Dante's demeanor has always captures the heart of gamers, old and new including me. Something of a Captain Jack Sparrow who takes life threatening situation with a good amount of humor on the side (in his case, with much coolness). But seeing what Capcom was doing to their own original franchise (From 1 to 4, excluding the reboot), DMC was well on its way to have a short life. To make matters worse, other similar hack-and-slash games are beginning to overtake it, one of it is said to be a ripoff of DMC. That's why I believe that the reboot was a right call. Start DMC on a clean slate.
A right call, but as I said before, a dangerous gamble. The reboot was a fool's hope of making the game more appealing to western gamers, with all the cursing, dubstep, prostitutes, anon, etc. Yes their gameplay was easier for newbies to follow. Yes the story was better IMO and sensible where they break away from the usual "I want Sparda's power to control the world" (DmC Mundus, evil final boss as he is does put forth some legit world dominating reasons that makes you think). And I don't think the characters in DmC, along with their respective character development was utter rubbish. I'm here, advocating the game itself isn't bad at all.
The reboot would be a success if Capcom didn't change Dante's behavior. Ergo, the reboot fails to do what it was SUPPOSE to do. As a game, DmC wasn't a fail. As a means to revive the franchise, it did.
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*Sigh* there you go again.
You are saying DMC was heading to bad direction? Uh, most people was happy with DMC4 as you can see from the sell record.
I don't think DMC needed a reboot at all, because it appeared on 2008. Not that old.
And they tried to fix what didn't needed the fix. There were so many plot holes that they would have used.
And Mario is very old game, but do you see they replacing Mario with something else?
And yes, I do believe as you said, if they kept Dante in character, and removed that silly one button attack with out a killer wall
Yes, this game would have succeed.
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Whether it needs a reboot or not is pretty much subjective. Many are okay with the the original story. I prefer a reboot because of the official death of Vergil. My best time in the series is I can have him whacking Arkham together with Dante. I want more of that as in the entire game, wouldn't you? You play as Dante, your friend play as Vergil and bust out some serious double team combos.
- Dante punts the demons up the air. Vergil cuts them up.
- Dante was bound by the enemy. Vergil Judgment Cuts to free him
- Dante and Vergil DTs. Dante Super Million Stab the boss. Vergil Rapid Judgement Cut aka Dimension Slash. Watch the Style Gauge go crazy.
That would be a FUCK YEAH moment. But you can't have a Dante-Vergil team, cuz that's how the original plot goes. Dante-Nero double team works too, but it's just not the same.
I have my hopes that the reboot can be as such in the sequel, if they have a sequel.
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My goodness..
Please don't get me started on Vergil..
in DMC3 Vergil was one of the coolest antagonist. He was honorable, silent, kickass (he stabbed Dante twice). *shakes head*
DmC Vergil is WORSE!
Watch this www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEBWxb…
You are saying there wasn't any possibility for Vergil to appear on DMC...
Well that is wrong.
Remember Nero's devil arm? was rumor saying that Vergil soul is stuck on there. That is why capcom would have been able to bring back Vergil.
DmC Vergil is not the real Vergil.
Yes I too want them to be together fighting, being kickass..
But not like this. I don't even blame NT on this..
The problem was, NT weren't able to understand the humor on DMC. Also they choose a bad voice actor who weren't able to bring out the said jokes on the game.
Also the impressions, their face wasn't comical, the dialog didn't match their face. Bad graphic.
And those stupid killer walls. Really? what was the point of it?
I do not want a face imitation of Dante and Vergil.
They should bring back the original, if not, they need to end the game and save it from bad reputation..
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I wouldn’t put my hopes too high on the slim possibility of Vergil’s return. He doesn’t have a body / vessel to return to. You should know that Capcom has a habit of crippling star characters like that. Just look how bad Capcom screw over Zero from Megaman Zero series, from a full reploid to a small talking metal. I would sooner believe there’s Megaman X9.
NT introduces some interesting environment concept of Limbo and others. Instead of demons held off at bay by Hell Gates, they live in a parallel world & can enter and leave reality as they please and cause havoc, which they didn’t cuz they like trolling humans.
I respectfully disagree. Dante may be a fail, but it was opposite for Vergil. I see almost no difference in both Vergils’ demeanor. Sure, sure. The cinematic makes him looks like a noob, could use a little bit more work there. And his DT is Doppelganger. What’s not to like when you control 2 Vergils at Vergil’s Downfall? I understand what you’re getting at. In my opinion. NT’s changes is well justified. Except Dante. They apply logic in DmC, while DMC focus on unreasonable stunts (yes the stunts alright in my book too).
I might get a lot of hate from all die hard fans by saying this, but I believe it’s too early to judge NT’s ability to make a good on the reboot. There are bad misses, but there are good hits as well. I wouldn’t mind having DMC5 and DmC2 on my console any day.
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Nah, I think Vergil still has chance Capcom left a giant plot hole on DMC 4 and 1 for him to return, that is if Capcom stop being a dumass.
And not just megaman, Capcom ruined a lot of games like this. *sigh*
I think the Original DMC gothic style was good enough. I felt it was unnecessary to add parallel dimension thingy.. because remember, the whole Devil May Cry was based of off Divine Comedy. And it made sense that Demon lives in hell. Hey! NT themselves brought in mythology with Nephilim thingy. So whats wrong with adding hell?
I still don't see whats so interesting with killer wall. Look it this way, on DmC game they destroyed Mundus, taking down the parallel world with him. So where would be continuation of the story? The dimension is destroyed so is the game.
And about Vergil. How did you not see major difference?
The original Vergil didn't wanted to rule humans like he is on DmC. In fact he doesn't care about humans at all. He saw his mother being killed with his own eyes, that's why he wanted power. Remember his quote? "Might controls everything".
Also DmC Vergil is so ....weak.. I mean gosh!!!
If you have played dmc3, remember how he stabs Dante? And his Devil arm... whats so interesting about doppelganger? boohoo.. Where is that cool power up? Oh you can't have a powerup, because remember? Bullet doesn't work? There were no use of Dante's original weapon, Ebony and irony at ALL!. They just stayed... like a dress up...
Not only NT Insulted the old fans, atleast they should tried to make such a way that all of fans (old and new) would be satisfied.. ):
I don't thing their would be any DmC 2 because.. it seems NT has moved on lol. They already published a new game.
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You gotta be sick and assume she's blowing squirrels? The fuck?
She cries because she's had a fucked up life. Lets see you dad fuck your empty body and see how you come out of it.
Girls like bad boys. How the fuck is that a shoujou thing?
She's not a fighter, she needs help.
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And about the Squirrels, how do you think she got a semen? huh?
Do you even played this game?
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its called dissection.
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Yah right. You will only get fresh semen from "alive animal"
Again, you didn't play any of the DMC game, have you?
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As a neutral between the Reboot and Classic Sides of the Devil May Cry fanbase, I've gotta say:
You are ShadowWalker3 are both being extreme. You are both making your side of the fanbase look bad.
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As they say,Truth hurts.
Also, what I said was truth. Nothing extreme about it.
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Well, there was some truths to what you said, like the Reboot's story does indeed suck completely and Ninja Theory and Capcom alienated and bullied fans of the Classic, there are some things that are not true:
-Like Kat supposedly being "zoophilic"
No, she is not.
She only uses the Squirrel semen as an ingredient for her Wiccan recipe meant to create portals into the Limbo (The Reboot's demon world) nothing more.
(granted, it's an odd and rather gross ingredient for magic, and I do wish that Kat used a different main ingredient for her spells, but at least some creativity was put into her magical powers, like using a spray-can of all things to create a mystical portal to the Demon world.)
-Also, even though the story of the Reboot is terrible, the gameplay is actually kinda good. It's not the best kind of gameplay, but not the worst kind either.
Aside from the BS "Red on Red opponents, Blue for Blue opponents" system, the Reboot's bizarre Devil Trigger and the lack of a taunt button, nothing much else is flawed.
There are some good things about the game too, such as:
Reboot Dante's weapons and abilities are still at least balanced in-game, the Ophion Hook is a handy grapple to help Reboot Dante get around in the landscape, and combat is neither nerfed, nor overpowered, either.
However, again, you're right in that the Reboot's story is horrible, and Ninja Theory and Capcom were complete jerks to those who loved the Classic DMC.
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Lol, Believe it or I wasn't against rebooting. I was quite thrilled when I first heard the news. I thought fuck yah, now I'ma gonna see Dante's past as Tony, or Virgil and Dante's first argument. But nooo, what I got was a total butcher of my favorite characters and shitty story line. I didn't like the game-play that much too, the actions was bland, the lack of lock on sucked, and of the color code enemy you mentioned. Overall it was a totally dumbed down. The butchered a good game with good potentially so you can't really blame the angry fans.
The game was a shit. Wish they have put more effort into it.
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I see.
I agree, though, that Ninja Theory and Capcom are the true villains here, and that they bullied fans of the Classic DMC.
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Also, sorry that it seemed that I got so mad at the fans.
I just got so angry about the Ninja Theory Goons' actions on the internet, and I am so sorry for taking it out on you.
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I'm glad that we've found something that we agree on.
I wish that Platinum Games would buy Capcom (the company.)
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the original games? No.
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There you go.
You know nothing about the real DMC, yet you came here to blab.
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so what ZI havent played them, the new game is awesome enough.
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