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Yes, Captain...SIR!The goodguys climbing on a mountain of victory after a hard days killing.
This piece has got a couple points. If I did my job right, they're obvious.
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Haha. That face gives me several feelings.
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Wow, you know, I think this has to be the most intelligent, well-thought out and symbolic piece of fanwork I've ever seen in any medium for any fandom.
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Thanks so much. That means a lot.
In fact, I was thinking about going back and cleaning it up...or maybe amking a sequel that is better executed (technically). The concept is solid though.
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Fantastic work man. I'll admit though, the first thought in my head was't the nicest one to share here, but I soon got past that as I was reading into your concept behind the image.
Feel totally immature now. lol. But thank you so much for creating such thought provoking imagery. It certainly reminds me of my 2 years as a conscript in the armed forces along with the attitudes I've observed.
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Wow. I was not expecting a comment from you, let alone a watch lol. Thanks.
I am gay, so yeah, I get the not nicer things...
I glad you got past it though. I really try to put more thought into my full pieces (ones that aren't character drawings, etc). I know sometimes they can appear "Oh, here is more gay." lol. A good deal of my art can be taken as immature, but I think that holds true for even a lot of really good artists. I like to keep art lighthearted. And lets face it, this is Star Wars, so very little seriousness is involved. Sometimes the more "this is serious art" pieces are actually more comical because they try too hard.
I really like this piece and have considered going back into it and doing it in greater detail now that my digital skills have improved. Try to bring out more in the droids and clean up the bodies. I think star wars actually works well here because you already have the slave army...its not such an immediate criticism as if I had real soldiers in the same positions. I think it puts some distance, hopefully mitigating some of your immediate negative feelings XD. When I do ral soldiers I mean them, as in "Slipping into Darkness."
Thanks for your service. Now I know where all your inspiration comes from 
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Thanks for articulating your thoughts so well. I was just fending off some wise-asses earlier, trying to explain the reason for a 'lighter-hearted' approach to sci-fi rather than 'sci-fact' and trying to badger your audience into accepting facts they absolutely cannot relate to, or are familiar with. Immaturity as an approach helps break that ice, right? At least that's my perspective on it. Helps get the idea across in a less condescending manner.
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Lol. I'm glad I don't have to deal with those people. You're right on.
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Thanks dude. Glad you like it!
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Thanks! Exactly what I was trying to accomplish.
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this looks so ancient Greek
especially the way the clones are looking up at the captain
also, how freaking muscular are they!?
Great drawing
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Well, I'm guessing if you were a genetically engineered supersoldier, you'd be pretty buff.
I take a lot of inspiration from Greek work, thanks
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I love it. The positions of the troopers give it that dramatic feel to it, while the helmets complete the Star Wars aspect of the picture. The definition of the muscles also remind me a bit of Spartans, namely the way they have minimal armor. I sense a feel of old mosaic in this picture, sort of like those paintings you'd find on a wall in Greece, or Rome.
Thank you very much for creating such inspiring artwork. Please continue to do so.
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Thanks for the crit. Classical art definately inspires me. I will continue to work. I'm glad you enjoy it!
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i don't really know what to say or thinking... just wow
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i was just little suprised when i saw at first your work XD
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Hey, a little shock value is always good.
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it's not even shock value it was just shock that the someone draw clones like that - not only as brave and indestructible soldiers, but in the way more maturity, i don't know how to say my thoughts in english, but this art given much to thinking... especially how the normal troopers looking up their command.
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Thanks. That means a lot to me. I'm gald you can see the layers!
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no problem. i hope you will be continue you drawing with "layers"
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Man, now that looks kandosii!
Awesome scene, great shading and lightning, especially. Great job, very impressive! 
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Hm, I'm kinda one of those guys you'll have to beat over the head with a club to get the point across, that is if your not trying to say something about some kind of latent homosexuality involved in an all-male command structure.
Compositionally, the piece is well done with a pyramid style focus that brings your eye around the picture. The pose, figure, and lighting on the commander is especially well done, while some of the troopers below don't look quite finished.
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I definitely agree with you on the troopers. I took a weekend vacation in the middle of the piece and coming back to it I had some real different ideas about where it was and where it should be going. Part of it is disjointed and I did rush through some of the troopers. Perhaps some touchups are in order, but I also wanted to keep them a bit simpler as to not siphon away too muck of the piece's focus.
As far as beating you over the head, lol, I haven't quite figured out the real point yet (it might have just been fun. The "latent" (I'd say active) homosexuality in all male armies is certainly a component, but thatβs merely a product of command having sexual connotations and soldiers being all male.
One of the innate properties of the Clone Wars that I like is the (often tired) man vs. machine crap. Showing the troopers naked sitting on a pile of broken droids really tries to emphasize that. The sexuality implied also helps with this point. Course, as I mentioned to Evolvana, i need the helmets to provide some context as to who they are and to note the dumbed down heads with the souped up bodies (the basic concept behind a supersoldier army). Yet, the tech that built the droids also served to create the clones. Especially with the ARC, (the gear designates his rank, his person, and the greater degree of mechanical qualities required to create him) he relies more on that technology. The ARC is also more cultured (hence the fabric pieces which also serve dual roles to reference the character and show a more complete individual) than the standard troopers. So, you kind of get the catch 22. You have the technology of the droids and humans replacing their humanity with technology and culture to fight that enemy. This sort of conflict/paradox is the human story, from my POV. It tends to be what I focus on.
What else is going on then? The homoeroticism of command and brotherhood, not to mention the narcissism of the troopers (which could be expressed on other troopers) and their desire to be greater versions of themselves. Also, the standard troopers are a bit childish in the way they look up to the ARC, emphasizing the fact that theyβre only like 10 and relying on their superior (both in an ingrained and in an emotional way) for everything. The troopers are stuck in the debris of shattered Separatist soldiers, some more actively trying to escape their condemned roles through advancement like the ARC...some quite comfortable in them. Though that advancement comes through the inhumanity of culture and technology and given the cloneβs biological differences, its never something they can really achieve.
The ARC is clearly the main figure here, the only one standing, the only one capable of moving on his own. The night is coming and he is the one moving forward here (Maybe this is my brain referencing the enaction of Order 66, though it was also an attempt to effectively do backlighting after my failure last time). Heβs certainly enjoying the attention, but heβs also kind of stuck in half walk. Of course, the joy of helmets is his expression could be anything from βWhat are you lookin at?β (for the homophobes or those afraid to address the sexuality in command) to βyouβre dead.β (more along the lines of sunset on his pile of tin cans).
So where does this bring us back to? I wish I had a nice little way to package up this piece. I donβt for this one...yet. Its kind of a mix of all the things I described above. Conflicts between humanity and technology/culture, between progress and stagnation, and between clones and droids. All this is happening at the dusk of the Republic and βCommandβ/ the ARC Captain seems to be the concept/person that ties all these things together.
Perhaps, that doesnβt give you an answer lol. But hopefully it at least gave you an idea.
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Wow, if only George Lucas himself could have taken such a nuanced and mature look at his own material, the last three movies might have been worth something.
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ROFL. I think they're worth something. A lot of this stuff is in there, you just gotta think about it a bit more than the 'ol black and white OT.
Anyway...hopefulyl my art is better than the movies then lol.
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Please dont tell me they're gay.
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Does touching another guy make you gay?
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sorry, The piece just looks a little different is all. I like a lot of your stuff by the way. I'm a huge star wars fan and can't wait for the Clone Wars to come out. I didn't mean to come across mean if I did, just looks a little different is all.
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Hehe. Its ok. Some people might have meant it as serious though.
No, I'm not necessarily portraying the clones as gay. I think thats a valid way to interpret the piece. I guess, to me, the homoerotic elements are the key factor I was looking to capture in this regard, not necessarily the sexuality of any given trooper. Part of art is seeing things differently and using that different perspective to create a message.
I'm glad you like my stuff
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Very nice technically. Will you draw them without helmets?
They seem to like their captain a little too much
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Well, it could also be a product of command too...either way you see it works. I like thier Captain too.
I'd never draw troopers in this context without helmets. The point is really to express the half-humanity of the clones, which the helmets on naked bodies do wonderfully. They maintain all the form and structure of men, but remain stoic and expressionless. The helmet is jsut a wonderful part of the ethos of the clones and I really feel its required for such a piece. It also doubles as an effective reminder that all these guys are the "same" person. I'd really only show helmetless clones if I was interested in delving into thier personality, which I'm not in this piece. The repetition and the combination of sexuality/inhumanity is a more importat aspect in the piece. I need some sort of tie in to reference them as multiple copies, soldiers, and inferior to a present officer. It also reinfoces the clones v. droids (note ths victory pile). I will probly do a helmetless clone at some point, but it'll be in a piece with an entirely different message.
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