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High resolution preview for a redo of my custom Paper Mario style Koopalings.
The reason I'm redoing my custom Koopalings is because compared to the other sprites, I rushed them quite a bit when I first did them, resulting in badly drawn and off-balance parts (especially Lemmy DMZ v1). I didn't really have an "idea" of what to do to differentiate my Koopalings from other interpretations, leaving them as soulless copies of the eighth gen versions (and that's not a good sign when I say such a sentence). I hope to rectify my rushjob mistake and add more individuality with the revisions.
Instead of being new deviations themselves, the ver 2 DMZ Koopalings will just be updates. The ver 1 DMZ sprites will be kept as links in the descriptions.
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Angel-Rose28 [2019-03-14 03:34:35 +0000 UTC]
I am curious... Do you still see the Koopalings as Bowser's children (blood related or adopted) or have you gone with the "story" (if one can even call it that) that Nintendo has made up currently of them being just minions?
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GAMECUBian In reply to Angel-Rose28 [2022-07-20 02:26:44 +0000 UTC]
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DerekminyA In reply to Angel-Rose28 [2019-03-14 03:56:10 +0000 UTC]
I'll always see them as Bowser's kids, regardless of the retcon.
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Angel-Rose28 In reply to DerekminyA [2019-03-15 03:52:42 +0000 UTC]
Ah ok. Yeah I do to. I just really don't see a reason to demote them so harshly... Literally everything that has talked about the Koopalings (prior to NSMBW) has mentioned that they were Bowser's kids--even in the Japanese texts. So I know that this whole thing was just a whim decision or something to try to make BJ seem more important or a mix of the two or whatever. And even then, they could have just said they were adopted if they really wanted BJ to be Bowser's only blood related kid. An adopted child is no less valid than a blood related one after all. But anyway, thank you for answering my question.
So do you also see Koopa Kid/Mini-Bowser as one of Bowser's kids too? I mean, since they referred to each other with familial terms in Mario Party 6, I do believe.
On a similar note, I like to think that Boom-Boom and Pom-Pom are Bowser's kids too. I always thought that Boom-Boom was one of the Koopalings too since his SMB3 sprite's shell was exactly the same as the Koopalings' and Bowser's. Of course I now know that he is supposed to be a different species because the shell is different...but honestly, that really isn't enough to make them a different species. Especially seeing as how Koopas seem to treat their shells more like clothing or armor instead of actually being part of their bodies as evident in the earlier Paper Mario games (which is something I am sure you already knew). Also, have you noticed how Boom and Pom's faces/heads are almost exactly the same as Wendy's only minus the big lips (but plus Roy's fangs)? Why bother making them look so very similar to them if they are supposed to be a separate species? It is awful suspicious if you ask me.
I know Boom has the giant hands....but since Pom-Pom does not and appears to be an individual, it makes me question if they really are a species (aside from the shell). More than half of the Koopalings have displayed the ability to clone themselves, so all the other Boom-Booms we see (like in NSMBU) would be clones. And then there are the ones without spikes. Well, I would say that those are imperfect clones--something I think Wendy and Lemmy have done. So, uh, I think that covers all the things for Boom-Boom specifically being an individual rather than a species.
And while I am at it, I would like to talk about the name. I never understood why the name Reznor was given to a random dinosaur instead of the Koopa that was almost exactly like the Koopalings. So like...can we just say that Boom-Boom's real name is Reznor and "Boom-Boom" was just a horrible nickname (since it is synonymous with poop Xp) someone gave him? The Triceratops Dinosaur could then be renamed to "Rhino Dino" since that is another name for them apparently. I know there are Green dinosaurs named "Dino Rhino"...but they are just Dino-Torches that don't breath fire (yet). So I would say just keep them Dino-Torches as well, rename (or just more officially name) Reznors to Rhino Dinos and make Boom-Boom's real name Reznor. It isn't too difficult to understand right?
Alright, now I am done. Really sorry for going on such a tangent there...
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DerekminyA In reply to Angel-Rose28 [2019-03-15 21:01:17 +0000 UTC]
You're welcome. Family is family, no matter how others try to spin it.
Koopa Kid's a tough one to peg on the family tree. They could be family, but they could also be fanatics of Bowser.
I don't think Boom2 and Pom2 are related by blood to the Koopalings, though. They're probably just really strong Koopas. Your proof is compelling, though. I also believe Boom2 and Pom2 are just individuals rather than a full species.
The reason for Reznor's name is multi-fold. First off, the letters R and Z sound ferocious in a name. In addition, it also rhymes with "dinosaur". Last and most obvious, it's just a cheeky reference to Nine Inch Nails band member Trent Reznor. I don't really have a proble with Boom Boom's name, but it's your call. Yes, Dino Rhinos could probably use a name change to reflect what they grow up from, or a name similar to it.
That's OK. You've probably been thinking about this for a while.
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Angel-Rose28 In reply to DerekminyA [2019-03-16 18:22:01 +0000 UTC]
Yeah. But Nintendo doesn't seem to agree...
Honestly, I am kind of surprised you read all of that. I tend to ramble about ideas that I have
Koopa Kid is also one I see as an individual with all the others being clones. Since he split into the three colored ones on-screen in Mario Party 5 combined with the fact that he seems pretty young, I have a feeling he can't quite control the ability....hence there being so many other Koopa Kids. And since we are talking about him and names, I like to just call him "Kidd". I am honestly not sure if that is "creative" or "original" and all that Xp
What do you mean by "really strong Koopas" exactly? But cool that I found another person who thinks of them as individuals and not a species I do sort of have a reasoning for how/why Boom and Pom would be related by blood....sort of...but I want to hear your explanation first. If you don't mind that is.
Yeah I thought as much with those reasons....but it's that last reason especially for why I think Reznor should be Boom-Boom's real name. He was pretty much a Koopaling back in SMB3 since he looked much like them and even had the same battle music and defeat theme/jingle...so why not have his name be like theirs being named after a musician as well? I honestly never understood why they didn't bring him back for Super Mario World. They could have used the Reznors as a one time boss optional boss like they did for the Atomic Boo. Or alternatively, they maybe could have upgraded Boom-Boom to fighting alongside one of the later Koopalings in the game? I am not quite certain...but I know they could have done something with Boom in Super Mario World instead of ditching him.
Also, I actually don't have a problem with Boom-Boom's name at all either. I was more just poking fun at it Still, I think it wouldn't hurt if that was just his nickname instead. Similarly to Tails from the Sonic the Hedgehog series--his real name is Miles Prower (a pun off of mile per hour) & thus his full name is Miles "Tails" Prower. So with Boom-Boom, his would be Reznor "Boom-Boom" Koopa. Or something like that. Does...all of that make sense?
Yeah, I have a lot of time to think about all these kinds of things Xp
I just wish I had more time to draw all of this stuff out tbh
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DerekminyA In reply to Angel-Rose28 [2019-03-16 19:39:33 +0000 UTC]
It's definitely a shame the retcon happened.
Since you put a lot of time and effort into typing that, I figured it was my responsibility to invest an equal amount of time in my reply.
I'm leaning on "one Koopa Kid is real, the rest are clones" idea too, also due to Mario Party 5. Though that game shows KK has some control over copying himself, so I'm not sure about that part.
Kidd's a fine name.
By really strong Koopas, I mean Boom2 and Pom2 got big and strong just by training themselves really hard, rather than any familial pedigree. that would lead to them resembling the Koopalings. I didn't even realize Nintendo had portrayed Boom2 as multiple characters, but I prefer singulars of him anyways. I sort of see Boom and Pom more as a couple rather than family, due to a scene from the credits from Super Mario 3D World, but I'd be interested in hearing an angle where they're family through and through.
That is a good point with Boom Boom not following the Koopalings' theme naming back in SMB3. I would say it was to show the Koopalings as more important, but then the inconsistency argument with Reznor rears itself as quickly. I think they didn't bring him back since most of SMW's fortresses are optional, leaving Choco Island's fortress as the only mandatory time he could be fought. They probably also left Boom2 due to wanting to try out a mini-boss with a unique mechanic to beating it and just budget and time issues. That said, it would have helped increase diversity with minibosses for sure.
Oh, OK. The Tails comparison helps it make more sense in that regard. Now that I think about it, lots of people are called by their middle name instead of their first, so it wouldn't be all that unusual.
Time is just a bizarre juggling act. It can't be made- only planned around.
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Angel-Rose28 In reply to DerekminyA [2019-03-16 23:16:49 +0000 UTC]
Yeah it is and it is annoying how this was one of the few retcons Nintendo has stuck with since a lot of the other retcons have been "un-retconed". An example is when Nintendo said Mario was no longer a plumber around the time Super Mario Odyssey released only for them to turn right back around and say that he was one again a few weeks later.
I see. I wish everyone else took that approach when communicating online...
Yeah, he seems to have some control over it in MP5. But then I found out that there are a bunch of Koopa Kids running around in Mario Party Advance, so that is what makes me think he doesn't have it mastered.
Oh, well thanks. I kind of felt that keeping "kid" for his name would have made "Kidd Koopa" a kind of clever name
Oh I see. I just figured their size and strength came from them being royal family type Koopas Them training themselves to be strong hadn't crossed my mind at all actually
The only reason I even found out that BB was being portrayed as a species was when he didn't reappear when the Koopalings did back in NSMBW. I was like "Where is Boom-Boom? How could you forget him again?". So I looked back on the Super Mario Wiki for some answers and then I saw it. Even with all that, I just didn't see any good reasons to leave him out again. I read that the only reason we got Boom back (and the introduction of Pom) in SM3DL was because the 3DS couldn't handle all of the Koopalings' models or due to time or something like that. I would have liked the Koopalings to be in SM3DL a lot, but I am so happy we finally got Boom back and the introduction on Pom. But at the same time, if the 3DS did not have the limitations and data issues it had, we probably still wouldn't have Boom-Boom or Pom-Pom, and it makes me sad...
Oh really? According to the Super Mario Wiki, the Prima guide for Super Mario 3D Land stated that Pom-Pom was Boom's sister. I just went with that since it was the only (and most likely will remain the only) piece of info on their relationship. Plus I figured it made sense since they literally have the same face/head...so I suppose I see them as twins like Mario & Luigi over anything else. That credits scene from SM3DW would then be a "It's ok big/little bro. We'll get 'em next time..."
But about the family thing and being related to Bowser. Nintendo seems adamant on not showing a mother for any of the Koopa children and I was wondering why they would be....but then a really crazy idea popped into my head. What if there really isn't a mother....or even stranger, what if Bowser is the mother? Or at least the one who birthed them? I have read that there is a certain reptile that doesn't need a mate to reproduce. I do believe it was called the "Whip-Tailed Lizard", but I cannot quite remember the name. Normally that sort of thing would be considered asexual reproduction, but I read that they can potentially make offspring that are not exact copies of themselves. They have an extra set of chromosomes and those are what allows for the differences and their biological make-up. So I wondered, what if that is something Bowser could do? He has an extra set of chromosomes and he used them to make the Koopalings (Boom, Pom and Kidd included) and laid their eggs. And since Yoshis can lay eggs and reproduce despite all of them being "male", this wouldn't be too unheard of...right? How Boom and Pom fit into the group of Koopa children would be that they are mixed triplets with Wendy (since they have the same face/head). Now, I say they are all Bowser's children because he is so far the only known adult Koopa of the Royal Family type. And since they are all Royal Family type Koopas, they have to be his. I am, however, not against trying to figure out who some of them could belong to instead IF (and only if) they introduce other adults of the Royal Family type...officially. Until then, Bowser is their biological father.
Alternatively, a far less crazy idea could be that the Koopalings, Boom-Boom, Pom-Pom, Kidd and BJ were all given to Bowser by the storks since they exist in the Mario world. So, what do you think of either idea?
Yeah and I suppose that is true about the SMW fortresses... Maybe they could have made Boom-Boom play a none active role? Or perhaps he could have been the replacement for the unused Koopaling that was supposed to pull Mario into levels at random? www.mariowiki.com/List_of_Supe… (Scroll down towards the bottom to see what I am talking about.)
Yeah. I think a similar thing could be made for Pom-Pom. She kind of looks like a "Josie" to me, so she could be named after the singer/songwriter Josie Cotton....making her Josie "Pom-Pom" Koopa. Since she would be Boom-Boom's twin sister (for me), I figured she should have a similar naming theme to the Koopalings. But that is enough speculation at all that
True. I really need to improve my time management skills. But it is hard when you are an easily distracted person -_-
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