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Description Okay, so here's the deal. I'm going to preach a little bit here so if you're easily offended by critiques or just don't feel like reading advice , I suggest you hit the back button. I'm speaking mostly to all those folks that PM or e-mail me wanting advice on their artwork and how to break into comics so, if that's not you, you don't need to read on or do if you just feel like getting a little insight on the world of comics.

That being said, I'm going to address something that a lot of comic book artist hopefuls dread-BACKGROUNDS!!!!!! Yes I know, you hate drawing them and would rather be drawing your favorite superhero or anime/manga character. Can't blame you, I would too but if you have any hope of illustrating professionally or just want to make kick-ass believable art in your spare time it's something you're going to have to practice at some point. Truth be told, the majority of all the Amateur comic art I see is horribly lacking in this department. I've seen some of the coolest character art but the entire peice falls apart because the artist either didn't give the background the same attention they gave the character or they left one out all together leaving Spider-man clinging to a magic invisible wall. Let's face it, backgrounds (hereafter referred to as BGs) are no fun!....or are they? I had the same problem with BGs for years and found I couldn't come up with convincing scenes to set my characters in. I couldn't come up with an image in my head and translate it down onto paper or I would get to frustrated and just give up. It wasn't until about 10 years ago that I saw the light. I was at a convention showing my work trying to get a gig when I came across an artist sitting in artist alley. He had a pretty good portfolio so I started flipping through. About half way in I came across a huge double page spread of the island of Manhattan. This artist had drawn the entire island from a airplane view complete with every building, visible street, harbor, and even little boats and tankers in the water. It was as if this guy had taken a helicopter ride out over the water about 1000 feet up and looked back to take a mental picture of the city to draw it. Every detail was there and the design of each building and window was addressed. Immediately I asked how the hell he was able to draw BGs so well. He replied “do you like drawing backgrounds?" "No" I replied. He smirked and said "well, I do." he went on to say the only way to learn backgrounds is to make yourself love them. Stop looking at them as a burden or something you rush through to get to the fun stuff. You have to realize that BGs are there to add life and believability to your characters. They can take a normal shot of Spider-man swinging and make him look as if he's hundreds of feet above New York or swooshing inches from the street down a canyon of buildings. In all honesty, I sometimes spend more time on the BGs than I do on the characters in the panel. It's not because I like the BGs more or dislike the characters, it's just that I like to pretend my BGs are another character unto themselves that create a setting for my cast.
So by now you're saying "that's all well and good but how do I get started?" Well, I'm glad you asked. The first thing to do is to get out there and draw!! I know, you've been told a thousand times that you need to draw from life so let's make this 1001. Get out there and sit under a tree or on a city bench and draw what you see. Pay close attention to architecture and plant life. Figure out with your pencil what makes a building look like a building, a car, or a tree. Now figure out what makes different buildings, cars, and trees look different and what makes them the same. If you do this long enough you find that you can make up buildings, cars, trees, etc up in your head without looking at a picture or reference. Secondly, study perspective like there's no tomorrow. This is the biggest thing you can do make your BGs convincing. Trust me, I know it's hard now but you'll thank me later when you're whipping out landscapes like a pro. For you beginners or even those that want to advance your knowledge I suggest the book 'Perspective for the Comic Book Artist". I own over 100 'how to' artbooks and this is the single best book I've ever bought and still use it to this day. It changed my art and a swear on it like the bible. Check out it the next time you're in a book store or get it from your local library. Heck, here's the Amazon.com address where you can order it!: [link] d_bbs_4/104-4366842-2812751?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
And believe me, it's great for all kinds of perspective, not just comic books. You'll learn 2 point, 3 point, 5 point, and curvular perspective before you know it and be well on your way. Just look at my any piece in my gallery with a cityscape to see what I mean.

So that's it guys. I hope this helped some of you a little bit and you'll take this advice and run with it. I'm a firm believer that there's no such thing as talent and anyone can accomplish their goals if they just commit and practice. All you need is the right tools. And just to drive the point home, I'm posting a plethora or BGs that I've done in the last year in various books. These are just a small handful of the huge amount I've had to do so believe me, I speak from experience. Oh yeah, and a warning. The file is a bit large so, if you click on it, you’ve been warned

Best regards,
-Mark
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Comments: 514

sl33p1e [2006-06-02 01:10:44 +0000 UTC]

wow, thanks for the advice! I'm like the old you, who can't think of a picture of a background in my head at all, and my perspectives are horrible! x_x I'll try following your advice and see how it'll turn out for me! By the way, your pictures on backgrounds are great! It's so detailed, just like the real things in life you see everyday!

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HimeRikkina [2006-06-01 21:21:36 +0000 UTC]

Good work!! I love the attention to detail!!

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DriftStudios [2006-05-31 23:36:10 +0000 UTC]

Awesome stuff man. and very helpful. :]



Random thought: Do you work on the Ultimate spider-man comic? o_O
I swear two of those images are from there...

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ZioMatrix [2006-05-23 09:31:32 +0000 UTC]

mate i hold ur advice in deep respect..(YOUR BGs ARE INSAINE) non the less im gonna try and inmprove my BGs thanks for the advice im shure me and alot of others found it helpfull

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deboahan [2006-05-15 05:52:53 +0000 UTC]

Nice bg's!

Thanks d00d, that was a lot of help! Uhh... Any tips bout patience?

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KeBaPPi [2006-04-06 17:30:55 +0000 UTC]

I really like your all works, that firtst backround is amazing. I start watch you, if you dont mind

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Gabterion [2006-04-06 16:20:04 +0000 UTC]

this one is probably the most entertaining picture ....it's so intence saw it a long time ago but i still like it....i'll hav eto fave it man

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sojournstudio [2006-04-01 06:55:56 +0000 UTC]

Wonderful examples and even better advise!!!

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NervousHawk [2006-03-28 08:34:37 +0000 UTC]

i'm faving this incridible piece not only for the great artwork, but more for the background description you've written. It is true, backgrounds are the last thing a beginner does... but totaly whitout backgrounds, it gets bored like hell.

It is funny, some day's ago a friend asked if i could help him with a comic/ manga. I accepted, under the privilege, that he draws the characters and i draw then the backgrounds (and, after reading this, i'm totally on fire to go drawing backgrounds like hell)

so, thanks for this outstanding speach and piece of art.

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DaveB23 [2006-02-26 02:01:04 +0000 UTC]

LIke lots of people, you've pretty much summed up my attitude to backgrounds - generally I hate them. I recently started doing my best to construct them properly before drawing characters, and find I'm enjoying doing BGs a great deal more than I used to. Which is not to say I'm loving them, but they're much easier to do if you take the time to construct them first, I find - i.e. I find it easier to draw characters to fit a BG than draw a BG to fit characters. Most probably because I have a great deal more practice with characters I guess.

Excellent advice though, and simply amazing art. Thanks for the book reccy too! I've gotta check that out, when I can afford it...

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jdzero [2006-02-16 01:53:37 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the advice, it really does, in some sense, matter to me that the Backgrounds are pushed to their limit for certain things, as since my friends expect some trade-mark beautiful pieces that will go well with their animations, hopefully I can pull off some sort of advancement.

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TheArtofBastlynn [2006-02-12 22:38:51 +0000 UTC]

wow. XD it's kinda funny you mention that because I have to take a background and layout design class pretty soon, but I am terrified of taking it cause A: the teacher is HARD and used to be a military sargent, and B:... I suck at backgrounds. You're backgrounds are so nice! *____* Gyad I love them. You keep up the great work on these backgrounds yah hear?

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RyuDan [2006-02-11 17:16:31 +0000 UTC]

Man, thank you very much you are an angel, thanks thanks thanks

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Comicartman [2006-02-07 21:03:45 +0000 UTC]

hey Mark!!
thanks for the advice its inspiring and very helpful,seriously!

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shamrocks [2006-02-04 04:49:19 +0000 UTC]

incredibly beautiful line drawings, and your perspectives are flawless. Great detail and characters...all in all, these are perfect. Great job!

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thinkbomb [2006-01-31 17:13:32 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the rant/pic!

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Arkagiel [2006-01-29 00:29:57 +0000 UTC]

I bought the book you mentioned, and you were damn right, it's a freaking awesome book! Since I got the book I've been practicing three point perspective to get a good sky view city scene. When I finish it and scan it, if you have the time, I'd love to get a detailed critique from you! Thanks for all the tips above...when i think of loving to draw backgrounds, it makes drawing them much easier!

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meanjellybean [2006-01-26 16:41:47 +0000 UTC]

thats sum insane stuff!!! i love the dramtic view ponits and extra u got in there is koo looking to see whas going on in each panel

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hellhound007 [2006-01-22 14:21:46 +0000 UTC]

I was wondering how to start on background and get my sense of perspective in order... thanks, dude! BTW, your work is amazing. I mean it.

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Frizelle [2006-01-21 18:38:17 +0000 UTC]

A fantastic read, I'm definately in the hating backgrounds club, you're work has blown me away and it's inspiring to note that you used to hate drawing them as well, well done for taking the time to write all that out.

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conner-of-dragnet [2005-12-30 23:09:08 +0000 UTC]

Oh wow, thanks for the great advise. Backgrounds is something that no one really likes. Shoot I have a pic that I liked but could have been a whole lot better if the background was better. I will go ahead and pick up the book.

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TyroneTasty [2005-12-17 01:05:07 +0000 UTC]

Hmm interesting read. A lot of what you said makes sense and I agree totally that being good naturally really isn't enough...er I mean when you said talent and all that...anyway...I'll definitely check that book out and nice bg's...I gotta go practice.

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Rickbw1 [2005-12-16 21:57:26 +0000 UTC]

Great advice

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pilingsaging [2005-12-15 12:14:04 +0000 UTC]

U R D MAN!

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luigic [2005-12-06 19:20:22 +0000 UTC]

impressing!!!!!!!!!!

excelent!!

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retsevrah [2005-11-28 04:17:30 +0000 UTC]

this stuff is just...impossibly detailed.
better start practicing now so i could get really good at this in the future.

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XxSaturatedxX [2005-11-27 09:01:22 +0000 UTC]

Wow.. That's awesome!

I've noticed a lot of artists leave out the background and focus on an image... but wow... you've got it down..!

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RobertLaszloKiss [2005-11-21 15:58:28 +0000 UTC]

Thanx man for the tips. I ain't no artist, even as a beginner I'm preatty weak but i do have the problem(and many others) with the backgrounds. I thought about going out and drawing but i was afraid what people would say if they see a guy sitting on a bench and drawing(it ain't a common thing around here). But to hell with them i really wanna' lern to draw backgrounds. So thanx again. Now I know what to do when i have to much free time and enegry

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shumworld [2005-11-19 22:39:54 +0000 UTC]

now that is hot!!!

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martinhoulden [2005-11-12 19:25:49 +0000 UTC]

thanks man, really, thanks. you are absolutely right - i hate backgrounds. i dont want to, its just, they bore me. I dont want them to bore me though. They only bore me because i struggle with the,. Theyre no fine because i have to really struggle, and, they dont come out looking as good as i want at all.

The thing that makes me listen to you the most out of all this, is that we share the same viewpoint - that theres no such thing as "talent". When it comes to drawing anyway. Drawing is just a technical skill that anyone can learn. All you need to be an artist is motiviation, perseverance and self belief. The rest comes into place, right?

I tend to find i dont even attempt backgrounds, because they scare me. Because, i know theyll end up making my pretty decent looking character just look very blah. Well, im sold anyway. Ill get that book, and, ill bloody study backgrounds. I need to stop shying away from them and really get on with it! Thanks again!

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LychiCambess [2005-11-11 21:00:03 +0000 UTC]

Huh, what? I wasn't paying attention

You illustrate a very good point, pun intended.

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g-smooth101 [2005-11-11 13:28:36 +0000 UTC]

very nice, yea i hate drawin backgrounds but i have been cuttin stuff out for reference to practice with.

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AuroraDark [2005-11-11 05:03:15 +0000 UTC]

omg.. phenomenal!!

And I love the message here, too. I know for sure that it inspired me

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jHalton [2005-11-07 21:04:31 +0000 UTC]

yeah ur right....drawing baccgrounds is tedious and annoying........thanks for the inspiration.....im gonna work on it more now so spider mang has something to swing webz from....hahahahaha

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StarShaper [2005-11-07 02:32:47 +0000 UTC]

Excellent work of BG's! aND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MENTIONING THAT ADVICE!! tHANK YOU! fave!!!!

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Vejitto [2005-11-01 16:04:38 +0000 UTC]

I'm probably echoing everyone else, but these backgrounds look awesome and the commentary was interesting to read. Keep up the good work~

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NinjaSpidey [2005-10-30 21:26:10 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the advice. I'm gonna look for that book this weekend, and in the meantime I'm going to be drawing the different buildings around campus.

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anotherantagonist [2005-10-30 00:32:20 +0000 UTC]

thanks

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Salavin [2005-10-28 08:56:40 +0000 UTC]

oh my god! the amount of detail there is in each one! gah i envy you so much XD I'm a budding comic artist and i hope to produce great work someday. I'll fave this and keep it for referance, I hope you don't mind?

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Ghostblink [2005-10-26 04:35:36 +0000 UTC]

I am currently attending The Art Institute in L.A. and am taking a Proportion and Perspective class. I am a photographer, tried and true, and always told people that the reason I took photographs was that I couldn't draw a lick, but now I have to take on the challenge. My teacher is stressing backgrounds as the key to drawing but your posting reinforced the fact. I am not a comic book artist but I fully appreciate your comments and you have provided some superb examples of backgrounds (with perspective lines included!). We will be drawing Paraline, One Point, and Two Point Perspective Backgrounds for the class. We have that book at the school and I will pick it up tomorrow. Thanks for the encouragement, advice, and instruction. Your talent reaches far beyond your artistic abilities. I have printed your comments and will take them to the class next meeting.

Will

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Chiana21 [2005-10-18 00:41:07 +0000 UTC]

that is excellent advice. better to look the problem right in the face than keep avoiding it! ^^

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Nicc593 [2005-10-17 18:12:34 +0000 UTC]

you, sir, have inspired me to do backgrounds better.

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mrs-malfoy [2005-10-16 12:18:26 +0000 UTC]

now you really are my hero

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mrs-malfoy [2005-10-16 12:17:05 +0000 UTC]

now you really are my hero

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NicholasWatersArt In reply to ??? [2005-10-10 09:01:39 +0000 UTC]

That really is helpful, I have that book you were talking about but I am still woahfully inadequite at perspective. I need to actually see it to get it. Thus my delima.

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shortymv [2005-10-10 05:53:05 +0000 UTC]

Wow, what a informative piece
Even thou im not huge on comic books I admit i dislike backgrounds
and like many artist I want to improve my skills so I will work on bGs and perspective and all
Hopefully this will be a huge learning point and advancment
thanks for shedding light on something needed by most artist

marcos

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KelberoX [2005-10-08 03:45:12 +0000 UTC]

....

what I can say??

.. just ...
excelent, but excelent work ..
nice ... sooooo nice !

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Scarlette [2005-10-07 18:45:20 +0000 UTC]

"Fun with backgrounds"... Well what is hard work, then?

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Hyenaworks [2005-10-07 02:57:06 +0000 UTC]

I've been kicking myself in the ass when it comes to BGs. I don't do nearly enough of them. LoL And as an aspiring animator, that's not good. I think a lot of artists don't understand that establishing backgrounds can really help with positioning characters and quite frankly backs up any coloring or posing jobs you did. Nothing like lighting a character in motion for a dark alley but having a big white background.

I think a lot of folks though don't move out of simply drawing designs for characters, which in a lot of cases is hard enough without trying to throw a background in with it all.

Overall, yeah, I agree. Backgrounds are just important as the characters. Sometimes even a great background can hide some imperfections or errors in character design.

I find backgrounds easier to do than characters. I don't know why but backgrounds have probably the easiest set of rules. Especially if you're doing camera shots. I've just found that they are the most time consuming only because there is SO much detail.

Thanks for the advice dude. ^^ It's good to see guys like you offering help. I've talked to comic artists that cling to their knowledge like the holy grail and refuse to share anything they've learned and all you can get out of them is a small conversation that is really no more than just sharing a smile or two but nothing that can inspire or help you.

Keep up the good work.

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organ-donor [2005-10-05 19:30:50 +0000 UTC]

WOW you rule.. and ur so right. i dread backgrounds but without them things look even more amateurish

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