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Description Okay, so here's the deal. I'm going to preach a little bit here so if you're easily offended by critiques or just don't feel like reading advice , I suggest you hit the back button. I'm speaking mostly to all those folks that PM or e-mail me wanting advice on their artwork and how to break into comics so, if that's not you, you don't need to read on or do if you just feel like getting a little insight on the world of comics.

That being said, I'm going to address something that a lot of comic book artist hopefuls dread-BACKGROUNDS!!!!!! Yes I know, you hate drawing them and would rather be drawing your favorite superhero or anime/manga character. Can't blame you, I would too but if you have any hope of illustrating professionally or just want to make kick-ass believable art in your spare time it's something you're going to have to practice at some point. Truth be told, the majority of all the Amateur comic art I see is horribly lacking in this department. I've seen some of the coolest character art but the entire peice falls apart because the artist either didn't give the background the same attention they gave the character or they left one out all together leaving Spider-man clinging to a magic invisible wall. Let's face it, backgrounds (hereafter referred to as BGs) are no fun!....or are they? I had the same problem with BGs for years and found I couldn't come up with convincing scenes to set my characters in. I couldn't come up with an image in my head and translate it down onto paper or I would get to frustrated and just give up. It wasn't until about 10 years ago that I saw the light. I was at a convention showing my work trying to get a gig when I came across an artist sitting in artist alley. He had a pretty good portfolio so I started flipping through. About half way in I came across a huge double page spread of the island of Manhattan. This artist had drawn the entire island from a airplane view complete with every building, visible street, harbor, and even little boats and tankers in the water. It was as if this guy had taken a helicopter ride out over the water about 1000 feet up and looked back to take a mental picture of the city to draw it. Every detail was there and the design of each building and window was addressed. Immediately I asked how the hell he was able to draw BGs so well. He replied “do you like drawing backgrounds?" "No" I replied. He smirked and said "well, I do." he went on to say the only way to learn backgrounds is to make yourself love them. Stop looking at them as a burden or something you rush through to get to the fun stuff. You have to realize that BGs are there to add life and believability to your characters. They can take a normal shot of Spider-man swinging and make him look as if he's hundreds of feet above New York or swooshing inches from the street down a canyon of buildings. In all honesty, I sometimes spend more time on the BGs than I do on the characters in the panel. It's not because I like the BGs more or dislike the characters, it's just that I like to pretend my BGs are another character unto themselves that create a setting for my cast.
So by now you're saying "that's all well and good but how do I get started?" Well, I'm glad you asked. The first thing to do is to get out there and draw!! I know, you've been told a thousand times that you need to draw from life so let's make this 1001. Get out there and sit under a tree or on a city bench and draw what you see. Pay close attention to architecture and plant life. Figure out with your pencil what makes a building look like a building, a car, or a tree. Now figure out what makes different buildings, cars, and trees look different and what makes them the same. If you do this long enough you find that you can make up buildings, cars, trees, etc up in your head without looking at a picture or reference. Secondly, study perspective like there's no tomorrow. This is the biggest thing you can do make your BGs convincing. Trust me, I know it's hard now but you'll thank me later when you're whipping out landscapes like a pro. For you beginners or even those that want to advance your knowledge I suggest the book 'Perspective for the Comic Book Artist". I own over 100 'how to' artbooks and this is the single best book I've ever bought and still use it to this day. It changed my art and a swear on it like the bible. Check out it the next time you're in a book store or get it from your local library. Heck, here's the Amazon.com address where you can order it!: [link] d_bbs_4/104-4366842-2812751?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
And believe me, it's great for all kinds of perspective, not just comic books. You'll learn 2 point, 3 point, 5 point, and curvular perspective before you know it and be well on your way. Just look at my any piece in my gallery with a cityscape to see what I mean.

So that's it guys. I hope this helped some of you a little bit and you'll take this advice and run with it. I'm a firm believer that there's no such thing as talent and anyone can accomplish their goals if they just commit and practice. All you need is the right tools. And just to drive the point home, I'm posting a plethora or BGs that I've done in the last year in various books. These are just a small handful of the huge amount I've had to do so believe me, I speak from experience. Oh yeah, and a warning. The file is a bit large so, if you click on it, you’ve been warned

Best regards,
-Mark
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Comments: 514

jusy [2005-09-23 03:15:00 +0000 UTC]

Wow. Very well said, indeed. You're sure to reach a lot of people with this one!

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Gekigengar5 [2005-09-23 03:12:46 +0000 UTC]

very informative...i too am drawing comic...and i rush through Bg's...but now reading your little info/advice there i look at it in a new way

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360eyes [2005-09-23 03:02:42 +0000 UTC]

daaaang! luving it as always! Thanks for the tutorial/advice.

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MindMage [2005-09-23 03:00:23 +0000 UTC]

Those are some really cool drawings and a very good statement you made there.

I mean, I personally haven't really ever even considered drawing backgrounds and what not, so I can't say I hate it or not. Though truth be told, I'm kind of inspiried to start now. And I read your words, and I know you speak the truth. Yah, I'm starting in the art buisness and what not, I don't know have much of a name and I don't even know how to work photoshop, but damn it, I'm going to do what I have to do, to get to the top. I have talked to other artists, like the guys at Udon and some of Indigo and even to other artist like me, and what ever they say I take it in as a chance to learn. And I just wanted to thank you for your words of knowledge.

It may be in the next 5 years, next 10 or next 20, but look out for me art world, here I come!

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laure8354 [2005-09-23 02:51:29 +0000 UTC]

This is amazing! I see what you mean... it definitely makes a character a lot more interesting to look at when there is a well-thought out background to go along with it. It makes sense really... if you see a character looking off into the distance in horror you want to know what it is they are looking at and why they are afraid. I agree with you on backgrounds being a must-have! Excellent job!

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Retro7 [2005-09-23 02:47:22 +0000 UTC]

Speak the truth, my friend. Am in the same boat as you or any other artist , BG just aren't my thing. But when I read comics, manga, or just checking out an illurstration. I always think to myself how cool I can traslate that onto my comic. Haveing an great inspiration (mine being One Piece's creator Eiichiro Oda) doesn't hurt either. Of course I have to disagree with you on one thing, not all BG have to be lifelike. Granted it helps but it also good to have distict style as well. Of course thats just me, anyway thanks for the advice and good luck to ya.

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diablo2003 In reply to Retro7 [2005-09-23 02:51:23 +0000 UTC]

Thanks man but I think you misunderstood a little about life drawing. BGs in comics should take on a life of their own and can look quite stylized but the foundation is still there because the artist still knows how things work in real life. I often see artists trying to force style onto a drawing before they have any groundwork to base it off of. Ask any established artist, no matter how stylized, and they'll tell you they started by drawing from life. Once you know the rules, you'll better know how to break them.

Thanks again,
-Mark

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saturn9calina [2005-09-23 02:39:44 +0000 UTC]

oh, you are such a wonderful person... this is amazing work, and you are so right about the necessity of backgrounds... it's something i really need to work on with my art... thanks so much for this and the link to that book, must save up some moneys now to buy it for meself...

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saturn9calina [2005-09-23 02:39:43 +0000 UTC]

oh, you are such a wonderful person... this is amazing work, and you are so right about the necessity of backgrounds... it's something i really need to work on with my art... thanks so much for this and the link to that book, must save up some moneys now to buy it for meself...

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juujinkan [2005-09-23 02:38:52 +0000 UTC]

I have to favorite this. Not only for the art, which is awe inspiring... but for the commentary. Because I try to ignore this fact so much. And you just slapped me in the face with it again. Thank you.

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Batuxa [2005-09-23 02:31:04 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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pureghetto [2005-09-23 02:30:38 +0000 UTC]

Nobody will probably read this but I'm going to make my brother read and look at this. His art is amazing but the amount of effort he puts into backgrounds is just astonishingly minute. Gah!

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Sketchee [2005-09-23 02:24:28 +0000 UTC]

Sorry but I love drawing backgrounds! Always have. With my artist friends I plead with them to draw a backgrounds but it's moot. I've had to buckle down lately and study figure drawing a bit harsher so I've had the complete opposite experience.

I feel that art needs a sense of place.

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Mu-Shu-Fasa [2005-09-23 02:08:18 +0000 UTC]

Fabulous! You're the right artist to talk to about this. I just got into character design and I figure this will be good practice too to get used to BGing as well. Thanks for all the tips man, I'll keep that book in mind for my next book hunt venture

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NoobDrawer [2005-09-23 02:03:45 +0000 UTC]

Just......Awesome

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MadStar [2005-09-23 02:03:38 +0000 UTC]

Aah Perspective for the Comic Book Artist is my LIFE.

And you draw your backgrounds with architectural precision. How do you get those lines so...parallel?

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lisa211 [2005-09-23 02:00:10 +0000 UTC]

wow! yes i do agree with that

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ashleyw [2005-09-23 01:58:34 +0000 UTC]

Can I ask what type of media you used on these (amazing) works? More specifically, what kind of pen do you use for inking? I've used microns, but I have a hard time keeping my lines from being so bulky in the end (makes it hard to do super detail).

Good rant about backgrounds, you're absolutely right.

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BahamondeART [2005-09-23 01:44:16 +0000 UTC]

is amazing

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kevin00 [2005-09-23 01:42:44 +0000 UTC]

thats crazy good job man

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Jayuya36 [2005-09-23 01:39:55 +0000 UTC]

wow, Im glad you brought the whole BGs out and stuff...I totatlly suck at backgrounds...theres like no end to how bad I am. I know what you mean about how the bgs bring the whole chracter into life and such. So...seeing you actually saying that you hate it and you were like bad it way back when gives me a bunch of motivation to work on them myself. So I say thanks cause I really admire your work.

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KnowYourEnemy [2005-09-23 01:36:26 +0000 UTC]

Very wise advice, I shall head it! Anyone who does not is just arrogant. >: |

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Mondo101 [2005-09-23 01:36:20 +0000 UTC]

Fun? More like Super-Mad-Skill^64329 XD *faves*

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mistakendestiny [2005-09-23 01:32:46 +0000 UTC]

keep the dream alive, man!

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JoelDashReed [2005-09-23 01:31:24 +0000 UTC]

You're absolutelly right, the backgrounds are very important to the draw, it makes the draw look better than without bg; even it's essential.
My only weakness is, in fact, the backgrounds because it's very difficult to do it, because I think a Bg, but, in the process, it didn't look like what I want.
Well, it's only matter of practice.

Well, see ya later!

Ciao.

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BuddhaTheGod [2005-09-23 01:21:37 +0000 UTC]

Damn, you caught me off-guard XD but as I see BG's being hard in general, they're even harder to make in Digital Art, tablets :<

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mosskat [2005-09-23 01:17:09 +0000 UTC]

thanks dude, i'm inspired to try ...

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Blue0Scapegrace [2005-09-23 01:15:16 +0000 UTC]

huh. never thought of it that way before.
^^ quite an inspiration. i'll have to make sure to carry a ruler around with me now....

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Nariko-Risu [2005-09-23 01:14:25 +0000 UTC]

Awesome man.

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zc456 [2005-09-23 01:14:12 +0000 UTC]

Words can not distribe how I feel right now but all I will say is... x2!!!!!

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FoxLady2 [2005-09-23 01:09:46 +0000 UTC]

OMFG. AWESOME!! O___O

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Psychotic-Otaku [2005-09-23 01:08:49 +0000 UTC]

Wow. That's awesome.

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Kryspix [2005-09-23 01:03:35 +0000 UTC]

you put so much effort and detail into that! its gorgeous

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Ikameka [2005-09-23 00:50:51 +0000 UTC]

your perspective is out of this world, great work man!

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ashigaru [2005-09-23 00:50:35 +0000 UTC]

I love backgrounds... that's where the inking assistants get to play! No one ever comments on "That's a great looking tree!" or "Love that texture on that wall!" except the inkers and assistants

Loved experimenting on a lot of the little stuff in the background, and seeing how to make a wall look 3D without being a distraction from the main character or element... Trying to get the really cool effects... that sort of thing.

*heh* I digress... this is about penciling, not inks...

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firesprite [2005-09-23 00:48:16 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for taking the time to write that! It's inspiring to hear, because I feel sort of the same way about backgrounds, as something that I know I have weaknesses with and thus dread doing sometimes. I will also take your advice to heart and check out that book you recommended...

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AndyMichaelArt [2005-09-23 00:43:54 +0000 UTC]

It's really cool that you've taken the time to help us beginners. I really like your drawings too. Very insightful. Thanks!

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MetalGearSquirrel [2005-09-23 00:27:30 +0000 UTC]

Thank you. You've given some very good advice on the very thing I respect you for. I will take this to heart.

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icedragon369 [2005-09-22 23:37:22 +0000 UTC]

awesome BGs
and the adive is really insightful and useful too

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Shauno [2005-09-22 23:23:18 +0000 UTC]

Very good information, thanks so much for spending the time to write that all down, I'll definately take that on board, I've always admired your backgrounds. Thanks so much again, take care.

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themeanypoet [2005-09-22 23:10:58 +0000 UTC]

Amen.

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insomniaphobia [2005-09-22 22:59:25 +0000 UTC]

O.O!!!!! Wow ^^ Everything is so sqaure and so round! it's to great!! ^^ man, i wish i could do something at least that detailed!!


Wonderful, everything looks perfect ^^

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Blizzard-of-Ozz [2005-09-22 22:55:46 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for the great advice. I really appreciate your words. I look up to you as an artist and I myself am just, well too lazy I guess at times to wip up a bg, unless it's the focal point. From now on I'm going to try to make my art the best it can be. Thank you Mark.

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dustopants [2005-09-22 22:55:22 +0000 UTC]

holy crap! hooooooly crap! thoose backgrounds are extremely detailed and awesome!! a defident favorite for me

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fenrysk-art In reply to ??? [2005-09-22 22:41:48 +0000 UTC]

sweet! off to practicing BGs for me

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aji-san [2005-09-22 22:33:38 +0000 UTC]

great work and thank you for the good advice. -respectful bow-

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slingshot40 [2005-09-22 22:26:20 +0000 UTC]

Woah, now that is some eye candy!

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slingshot40 [2005-09-22 22:24:21 +0000 UTC]

Woah, now that is some eye candy!

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stalker77 [2005-09-22 22:24:06 +0000 UTC]

dude! ....... I've been doing drawings since i was 7 yrs old, and doing BGs has never been my thing....I would either do the drawing, or i'd do the BG, and if i chose the BG i'd never finish it.....but seeing this.....just left me in awe.....

incredible work....simply incredible.....all the details, and never losing the "harmony" of the image....my congrats to you definitely some of the best work seen

a fave

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twincastX [2005-09-22 22:21:44 +0000 UTC]

sweet!!!!!!!

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