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DrScottHartman — Postosuchus big and small

Published: 2018-06-15 20:13:38 +0000 UTC; Views: 18853; Favourites: 476; Downloads: 0
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Description For such an iconic Triassic archosaur, Postosuchus has proven lots of trouble when it comes to restoring what it looked like and how it got around. Getting the proportions right isn't a trivial matter, as none of the remains are so completely preserved/prepped/described that they can stand in for an entire skeleton. Simple cross-scaling of the specimens isn't possible, as they are of different sizes and exhibit allometric scaling (more on that in a sec).

With a bit of care I've managed to pull together a reasonable composite based on (and scaled to the size of) the type specimen, TTU-P 9000. One of the larger sticking points (in part related to getting the proportions correct) has been if and to what degree Postosuchus was bipedal. While the forelimbs are robust for their size, recent work has noted that the forelimbs are substantially shorter than the hind limbs, which at least in the type specimen I heartily agree with.

One thing that is interesting, however, is that the smaller paratype specimen TTU-P 9002 has different limb proportions - the forelimbs are quite a bit longer relative to the hind legs, and in fact are nearly as long as in the substantially larger type specimen. I've scaled down the skull and axial skeleton to match the limbs of 9002 in the smaller skeletal above. It's tempting to infer that the young of Postosuchus were quadrupeds (or at least were _more_ quadrupedal), and as they grew Postosuchus spend more time on its hind legs alone.
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GigaBoss101 [2018-06-16 04:01:49 +0000 UTC]

Love the little hands. Really like this!

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jouletrix [2018-06-16 03:51:28 +0000 UTC]

Well God dang well done!!!!

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Cl1ff [2018-06-16 02:58:48 +0000 UTC]

What a strange animal! Fantastic job!

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DrScottHartman In reply to Cl1ff [2018-06-18 20:01:04 +0000 UTC]

It does seem strange, although several croc-line archosaur clades experimented with bipedalism in the Triassic, which seems even more weird.

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Cl1ff In reply to DrScottHartman [2018-06-19 00:31:12 +0000 UTC]

It would be very interesting to find a more derived member of one of these clades that was more like a therapod, proportion wise. However, I guess spinosaurus has a pretty similar arm to leg length as this postosuchus. I love thinking about this stuff.

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DrScottHartman In reply to Cl1ff [2018-06-19 02:37:54 +0000 UTC]

We can't find more derived members like this, as they didn't make it past the end of the Triassic I really doubt Spinosaurus had a similar arm length, as I severely doubt Spinosaurus was quadrupedal (even a little). 

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Cl1ff In reply to DrScottHartman [2018-06-19 05:13:54 +0000 UTC]

I agree that spinosaurus probably wasn’t quadrupedal. I was just saying saying that it seems to have had somewhat similar proportions to the larger postosuchus. Although I’m I’m very interested to hear your reasoning why it wasn’t quadrupedal. I’m not super familiar with all the material known for spinosaurus but I’ve always wondered about their arms specifically. Perhaps they were somewhat reduced in size or movement wise. Again I’m not as well versed on this subject as I should be and that is why I’m really interested in what you have to say. Oh I’m aware guys like postosuchus didn’t make it past the end of the Triassic. I just think it would be an interesting animal if it it did exist. Perhaps a good topic for some spec evo.

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AntonellisofbBender In reply to ??? [2018-06-16 02:36:40 +0000 UTC]

if this is the most accurate reconstruction of postosuchus. than i would like to use this skeleton image as a reference for making a blender postosuchus

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PCAwesomeness In reply to AntonellisofbBender [2018-06-16 03:05:25 +0000 UTC]

It is the most accurate reconstruction of Postosuchus for now.

I remember when you made a Postosuchus that walked on all fours like a Saurosuchus in Blender.

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AntonellisofbBender In reply to PCAwesomeness [2018-06-16 05:27:54 +0000 UTC]

But it is not good enough. I like to give it improvements

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Kyorukki [2018-06-16 00:11:14 +0000 UTC]

Nice~

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SpinosaurusDinosaur In reply to ??? [2018-06-15 23:22:07 +0000 UTC]

Oh I remember Postosuchus, from my (scratched heavily) Walking With Dinosaurs dvd documentaries

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DrScottHartman In reply to SpinosaurusDinosaur [2018-06-18 20:00:13 +0000 UTC]

Yup! There it was modeled as a quadruped though.

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SpinosaurusDinosaur In reply to DrScottHartman [2018-06-19 05:06:05 +0000 UTC]

Indeed, still cool though :3

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Dinosaurlover83 [2018-06-15 20:58:31 +0000 UTC]

First Dreadnoughtus, and now Postosuchus? Has Christmas come early?
Either way, like your Postosuchus skeletal

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DrScottHartman In reply to Dinosaurlover83 [2018-06-18 19:59:43 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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rhe416 In reply to ??? [2018-06-15 20:44:16 +0000 UTC]

Cool!

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PeteriDish [2018-06-15 20:20:07 +0000 UTC]

Very cool! Always great to see a classic beast in new light! Great work! I'm sure many people will appreciate this!

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LinkaBell-ART In reply to ??? [2018-06-15 20:17:12 +0000 UTC]

Fascinating information! Postosuchus was always a favorite!

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