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Description Stegosaurus, one of the most popular non-theropod dinosaurs. 

2016 update: As strange as it must seem given how often Stegosaurus has been portrayed and how many specimens are known (for well over a century!), but we actually knew surprisingly little about the basic proportions of Stegosaurus until very recently. That's because previous specimens were either not prepared out all the way (to preserve taphonomic data) or were mounted as composite specimens.

That all changed last year when Maidment, Brassey, & Barrett published the Sophie specimen: journals.plos.org/plosone/arti…
Among other things it turns out that Stegosaurus has more cervicals and fewer dorsals had been previously been thought. This results in a less tall-bodied and longer-necked animal. In retrospect perhaps this isn't shocking - Kentrosaurus appears to also have had a longer neck than some early reconstructions suggested, and of course Miragaia took this one extra step in its neck-elongation.

Another odd feature is that the tail has a distinct down-curve in the posterior portion. I've gone over the distal caudals several times and the downcurve does not seem like a preservational artifact, so I'm including it in the reconstruction. One interesting side-effect of this is that the thagomizer is now oriented at a more useful angle for swinging at an attacker (I do not consider the laterally-facing spike suggestion to be likely), and notably other stegosaurs also seem to have their distal tail spikes end up facing closer to horizontal as well, either through tail articulation or by changing the angle of the spikes.

So now Stegosaurus does not stand out quite as drastically from its close relatives. It still looks pretty cool though, if you ask me.
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thedinorocker In reply to ??? [2015-11-02 16:40:55 +0000 UTC]

I Know, what's about the different number of plates?
this could change out way to restore S.stenops

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DrScottHartman In reply to thedinorocker [2015-11-05 18:29:44 +0000 UTC]

Oh that's a good point. Hopefully I'll have a good opportunity to work on them.

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thedinorocker In reply to DrScottHartman [2015-11-05 20:03:24 +0000 UTC]

Glad to hear that!
I am trying to collect Photos and description of good S.stenops specimens to compare the number and position of a complete serie of plates (probably at least 19)

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Blade-of-the-Moon In reply to ??? [2014-12-09 17:48:45 +0000 UTC]

Hey Scott, will the new reconstruction of " Sophie" change this skeletal much?

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PedroSalas In reply to ??? [2014-05-01 14:30:16 +0000 UTC]

My version

pedrosalas.deviantart.com/art/…

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Megalosaurid In reply to ??? [2013-08-28 00:59:35 +0000 UTC]

About How much do you think a 9 m (30 ft) long specimen could have weighted??, It seems like a really massive animal.

Great Job!! mr. Hartman

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action-figure-opera In reply to ??? [2013-03-08 18:05:44 +0000 UTC]

Why did you add sharper tips to the top of each plate?

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DrScottHartman In reply to action-figure-opera [2013-03-08 18:08:24 +0000 UTC]

Keratin sheaths usually narrow to a sharper point than the underlying bony cores (think bovid horns), although it's entirely possible that they could end in some other shape.

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action-figure-opera In reply to DrScottHartman [2013-03-08 18:20:17 +0000 UTC]

Ah yes. But has there ever been further evidence to suggest the tapered points in stegosaurus.
On a similar note, do you think a raptor's "killing" claw could have had a knife-like inner curve courtesy of the keratin sheath?

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DrScottHartman In reply to action-figure-opera [2013-03-08 18:44:04 +0000 UTC]

There aren't any preserved stegosaur sheaths large enough to show the shape.

I think a deinonychosaurian "killing claw" would have been sharp enough to kill with. I'm not sure that involves a knife-like inner edge - cats big and small can disembowel things (some tigers do it habitually) with claws that are only sharp at the tips. Of course they may have been used to hold down smaller prey while they were eaten alive, in which case a knife-edge would have been counter productive, since the point would then be to stab and hold. It's also possible that this varied from species to species, as there's quite a bit of variation to the sickle claw shape between taxa.

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action-figure-opera In reply to DrScottHartman [2013-03-08 18:48:09 +0000 UTC]

I knew from the onset that a knife-edge wasn't really necessary. I was only curious if there was any evidence to suggest its presence.

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grroselli [2012-11-17 05:02:03 +0000 UTC]

way too much controversy on which species are legit. i think its armatus, stenops, and mjosi

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TyrannosaurusPrime In reply to ??? [2012-10-21 04:51:57 +0000 UTC]

Do you plan to do a skeletal of Stegosaurus armatus/ungulatus?

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riotgirlckb In reply to ??? [2012-08-18 09:23:34 +0000 UTC]

very kool, soo many vertebrae haha looks good

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supergoji18 In reply to ??? [2012-08-17 17:17:17 +0000 UTC]

Looks awesome!

Was stegosaurus the dinosaur everyone thought hat a second brain in their hip?

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DrScottHartman In reply to supergoji18 [2012-08-17 17:39:57 +0000 UTC]

Yes, although some people also thought that diplodocids had one as well.

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supergoji18 In reply to DrScottHartman [2012-08-18 12:28:30 +0000 UTC]

Do you think there is any truth to it or has it already been disproven?

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DrScottHartman In reply to supergoji18 [2012-08-18 17:30:55 +0000 UTC]

It's been shown to be more consistent with a sort of ion "bank" that stored up the molecules needed for chemical signaling along the nervous system.

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supergoji18 In reply to DrScottHartman [2012-08-18 19:04:56 +0000 UTC]

So it's like a rechargeable battery, but for the body

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PeteriDish In reply to ??? [2012-08-17 16:37:17 +0000 UTC]

awesome!

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TheArchosaurQueen In reply to ??? [2012-08-17 15:30:17 +0000 UTC]

The up-date of this beautiful animal actually reminds me.

Why so few Ornithischian reconstructions?

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DrScottHartman In reply to TheArchosaurQueen [2012-08-17 15:54:34 +0000 UTC]

Because saurischians are inherently superior?

In all seriousness most of my early research was on bird origins and diplodocid phylogeny, and now I'm working more on basal saurischians (and a couple basal ornithiscians) so I simply haven't had the chance to do as many ornithiscians so far.

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TheArchosaurQueen In reply to DrScottHartman [2012-08-17 16:45:01 +0000 UTC]

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That’s completely understandable, I was just curious is all. It gets kind of frustrating when I try “digging up” Ornithischian reconstructions because their so hard to find .

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TheMorlock In reply to ??? [2012-06-07 04:31:34 +0000 UTC]

What species?

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DrScottHartman In reply to TheMorlock [2012-06-07 15:39:14 +0000 UTC]

That's an excellent question.

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SanderKools In reply to ??? [2011-12-23 10:08:05 +0000 UTC]

I love your skeletal reconstructions, I plan on making some myself, starting with Dacentrurus armatus (NHMUK 46013), but I am really a super noob. how do you make these drawings?
Greetings,
Sander

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DrScottHartman In reply to SanderKools [2011-12-25 05:37:25 +0000 UTC]

I use lots of measurements and photos, all of the papers that pertain to an animal, and Photoshop so I can work with the bones in different layers. And I live and die by the measuring tool so I can scale properly.

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Blade-of-the-Moon In reply to DrScottHartman [2014-12-03 09:21:02 +0000 UTC]

Hey Scott, what measuring tool do you use to scale exactly?

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DrScottHartman In reply to Blade-of-the-Moon [2014-12-06 23:24:56 +0000 UTC]

I work in Photoshop, so I use the measuring tool in there. I use a calculator (or calculator app) for 'teh maths'.

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Blade-of-the-Moon In reply to DrScottHartman [2014-12-08 05:06:08 +0000 UTC]

Ah okay bud, I haven't even tried Photoshop before..lol I use archaic things like " rulers".. ;D

I read "tool" and thought.."neat..maybe it's one I don't have.." heh

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DrScottHartman In reply to Blade-of-the-Moon [2014-12-13 07:14:33 +0000 UTC]

Back when I started (you know, in the 1990s) I inked pencil sketches to produce skeletals and I did use more mechanical measuring devices (I also had to use photographic reproduction back before flatbed scanners became widely available). I started to transition in 2001 or so and had finished the transition around 2004 (I used various degrees of both in the interm). 

But now I'm all new-school on the process, sorry.

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Blade-of-the-Moon In reply to DrScottHartman [2014-12-13 17:25:14 +0000 UTC]

Ah the 90's..golden age of my childhood. I was in the backyard near the creek playing with dinosaurs then. lol to get pics or images I wanted I recall photographing the tv..thought that was a great idea!

I'd kill for a nice BIG set of calipers..lol  I should make time to learn Photoshop but I'm buring the candle at both ends to keep our Park here running and supplied with new dinos.

Thanks for the reply bud!

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SanderKools In reply to DrScottHartman [2011-12-25 15:52:47 +0000 UTC]

ok. it's difficult already hahaha. for now im just drawing it on paper in the right proportions.(Because I dont know how photoshop works hahahah)

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SameerPrehistorica [2011-05-23 06:46:46 +0000 UTC]

Very nice

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PHDScienceFan In reply to ??? [2011-03-27 02:20:34 +0000 UTC]

nice nice drawing cool : D

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ZEGH8578 In reply to ??? [2010-10-03 00:21:30 +0000 UTC]

what about adding the throat scutes behind the vertebral collumn sortof?
like a cross section
that way you include it, and it doesnt cover up anything.

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DrScottHartman In reply to ZEGH8578 [2010-10-03 21:26:01 +0000 UTC]

It's a fair question; the thing is that the dermal armor isn't just known from the neck (although that's the only place it makes a chain-mail-like coat); going back even to Como stegosaur quarries it was noted that the little armor ossicles were found across much of the body. Because the exact pattern isn't known, and because I didn't want to restore their hypothetical pattern and in so doing cover up the other bones I left them off, and it didn't seem right to make an exception just for the ones on the neck. I should probably update the text to say that when I get a chance.

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HANxOPX In reply to ??? [2010-07-07 13:03:08 +0000 UTC]

Hello May I ask your permission on using this wonderful reference to build a 3D stegosaurus from bones to skin.

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DrScottHartman In reply to HANxOPX [2010-07-07 17:22:21 +0000 UTC]

Sure thing. I'm looking forward to seeing the final product. And thank you for asking first.

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ZEROresolution In reply to ??? [2009-12-07 17:37:14 +0000 UTC]

The Thagomizer!!!!

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Megalania1859 In reply to ??? [2008-01-31 05:51:41 +0000 UTC]

no throat armor. Or did this species not have any?

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DrScottHartman In reply to Megalania1859 [2008-01-31 06:06:03 +0000 UTC]

There was throat armor; there is also armor scattered over the sides of the animal. Since it's impossible to reconstruct the body armor (plus it gets in the way) I left all of the dermal scutes off the drawing.

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Megalania1859 In reply to DrScottHartman [2008-01-31 06:10:20 +0000 UTC]

ah.

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NTamura In reply to ??? [2008-01-29 19:28:47 +0000 UTC]

Cool! Any chance you do Stegosaurus armatus and S. longispinus as well?

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DrScottHartman In reply to NTamura [2008-01-30 06:51:38 +0000 UTC]

I'd really like to, but I don't have the necessary information at the moment, and a dearth of free time. Look for more prosauropods (and some odds and ends) in the next couple of weeks.

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NTamura In reply to DrScottHartman [2008-01-31 01:59:54 +0000 UTC]

Such as Plateosaurus and Massospondylus in bipedal pose (after Bonnan et al.) ?

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DrScottHartman In reply to NTamura [2008-01-31 06:06:48 +0000 UTC]

Something like that...

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EmperorDinobot [2008-01-29 19:28:25 +0000 UTC]

Beautiful.

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