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Description this is a page from my upcoming Witchblade Annual #1

go grab some popcorn cause this is prob gonna be a long one.. (on a side note, i ask that no one post this anywhere online as the book is not out yet..just send them here if u think they wanna waste time looking...thanks )

i havent drawn a book in awhile so i was really excited to get the script for this book.. and i love witchblade to boot. when i read it i was a lil disappointed and i forgot that she is a detective and sits at her desk a lot..lame.. granted the book starts off with a model in lingerie on a windy roof top...sweetness..but there is a lot of sitting and talking in the book...and im thinking man, i gotta dust off my ruler and practice drawing straight lines...as its a pet peeve of mine. dont like to draw NY and all those damn sky scrapers. but i always welcome a challenge..

so, i alway say, when u got the pencil, u got the power of god..and i remember saying in the past that i try and make up as much shit as i can get away with..i mean its damn fun playing god..even if its with these fake comic ppl.. when approaching a pg this boring (litterally nothing happens here) i try and get the hard parts over with so its down hill after that..in this case its panel one and three..i had to draw a police bull pen (or so i thought, my editor later tells me they f#cked up and i wasnt suppose to draw this setting...their office is in the damn basement...so all the background u see here will never see print, and i have to redraw it...its good to be me) so it means a lot of desks, ppl, files and crap..and i dont like doing this sort of thing..but i like playing god..so the cool thing is i get to make everything up...a lot of artist rely heavily on photo ref and i think thats a good idea..but i dont like the fact that i have to use a photo when its more fun to make it up..what i think is a good balance is to make up the environment and use photos for what goes IN the environment...like the TV's mounted on the pillars, staplers, desk fans(which i 4got to put in) and things like that...lighting is also good to have photos ref for..a room of this capacity i find is a pain in my groin to try and do.. especially when ever the ceiling is in the pic. i thought to myself what do i want to have in the room??? well, i like spiral stares, upstairs meeting rooms, trash on the floor from when men throwing trash and are too lazy to go and place it in the bin.i add all that in the layout stage. but all that comes in "last". cause composition and story telling are most important and easily screwed up..

panel one called for a woman walking in and telling something to two detective partners at their desk.. so as much as i would like to have spiral stairs, i have to make sure it will fit in the panel without losing the composition. so partners have their desks together normally or at least i made it that way...and the focus is the two detectives. i was taught to have the focus in the "middle" of the panel, which they are. and we have the chief coming in from the bottom left.. so once i got that down, the rest is god playing time...

after the foundation is laid out, i had drawn all the lines in. i try and keep the light source in mind the whole time, but it ultimately comes in last...lighting a person is a piece of pie, but a room with all this crap?? not easy sometimes..like the dudes desk to the right of the panel and how his desk was going to cast that shadow?? well sometimes its trial and error. again, the background in this panel wont see the light of day..so all that effort for nothing. the most important thing ive learned in designing anything, is to make sure its not stiff and stagnant. like flat walls...or a person standing with "both" their arms to their side.. here, i made sure to NOT have any wall go from end to end..boring, but its more work. so which is more important to u?? a good example is in panel 3, the wall that has the TV mounted stops half way down the panel and turns..makes it more interesting to look at.

in this boring pg i needed some eye candy and i stress how important eye candy is..and here its the full length girl in panel two and panel four...a pg needs to have something fun to look at..and some might disagree that its not necessary. but in print, in color, panels one and three are ultimately boring to look at..in B and W they look cool. but not in the end..for example, when trying to sell a pg like this its always harder because ppl like to frame splashy art...and it decreases in value when not done. this in NOT why eye candy is done, i dont like selling my shit..its just a good rule of thumb when it comes to giving the fans what they want to see.

i like my men looking lazy in my books..so i had the guys hands up on his head in panel 3. not caring that his boss is up their asses..also having everyday items, like the coffe, and water bottles on their desks. i tried to light the wall on the left with the TV, but it was too hard and i erased it and gave up.

panel two's layout, was a trick i learned from a guy named billy tan. great page designer. its fun to look at and pops out.. something marvel doesnt like doing.

camera angles are important in boring pages. its almost the only tool u have to change it up.. panel one: higher, panel 2:straight on.... panel 3: lower than panel 1..panel 4: almost on the floor....panel5: above..panel 6: on the desk..
some artist approach these kinda pgs as "cheat" pgs..as in i can finish this in half a day.. nothings happens...so, lets have straight on shots in all panels and make everybody really small so i have to draw less..again, inspiration for stuff like this is always brian hitch.

panel 5 called for sara holding two files in hand and reaching for another..

6 called for her partner coming over to her desk to show him what she figured out... i really wanted to show him "sitting" on her desk...when i was laying out the panel, i realized that it wasnt possible cause if u look in the panel above it... i clearly show..a pile of folders and a phone in the way, so theres no way he can be sitting there...u know what i decided to do??? i said f#ck it!! nobody will even notice...playing god again..bad eric

lastly, when i was rendering the folders in panel 4, i drew one set of lines going up and down...then proceeded to draw a second set in the old image style of "crosshatching"...FAIL!! what i wound up doing was making the folders look round, when everybody knows paper is indeed flat...so i tried again and kept all the lines flat and did a horizontal and vertical. and faded out..

this was my attempt at making a boring page interesting, just for u.

GO ASS!!!
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Comments: 139

WhiteHowler7 In reply to ??? [2008-12-21 01:27:33 +0000 UTC]

of course, it's rude to just say "okay you have to go! come lets go!"

plus, you gotta be able to plan ahead for that, it's going to be an all day thing

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ebas In reply to WhiteHowler7 [2008-12-21 14:42:25 +0000 UTC]

ok but u owe me ice cream...two scoops!!

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WhiteHowler7 In reply to ebas [2008-12-22 01:06:22 +0000 UTC]

deal ^__^

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Maleventvm [2008-12-19 00:38:31 +0000 UTC]

i didn't read.... i mut be honest.
the lower left pannel is amazing!! very real expression.

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ebas In reply to Maleventvm [2008-12-22 18:57:16 +0000 UTC]

who has the time to read a madmans madness...i understand

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Atlas0 [2008-12-19 00:32:52 +0000 UTC]

Longest description ever 0.0 I was warned though, hehe...

Excellent work here, all the shading/shadows/cross-hatching almost makes the place look real.

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ebas In reply to Atlas0 [2008-12-22 18:58:05 +0000 UTC]

i love depth and thats my goal half the time

i was told its the longest theyve ever seen

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imaginarymagdalena [2008-12-18 23:56:10 +0000 UTC]

when the comic is all finished you really should put a link up here to somewhere we can buy it....i adore your style! i would just love to own it in print!!
xo.

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ebas In reply to imaginarymagdalena [2008-12-22 18:58:31 +0000 UTC]

i will try and remember that

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TV-TonyVargas [2008-12-18 23:33:12 +0000 UTC]

Dude. I know what you mean about making a boring book. I'm sorta sick of drawing page after page of people talking. I have a whole book of this. sometimes I just want to draw something explode. Or even better some odd monster that no one has seen yet. or maybe just wolverine.

I dunno. Thank you for making an interesting page out of what little you had!

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Straeberen [2008-12-18 23:08:34 +0000 UTC]

nice and detailed

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Muady [2008-12-18 22:56:09 +0000 UTC]

Oh good lordy you sure put alot of effort in your work. And it makes it awesome.

Poor guy who has to ink this page... will take days^^

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introvertedart In reply to ??? [2008-12-18 22:50:24 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for posting this. I always find it interesting when people let you into their process.

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Mimidagr81 In reply to ??? [2008-12-18 22:15:05 +0000 UTC]

it's far from boring <33

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mistakendestiny In reply to ??? [2008-12-18 21:59:51 +0000 UTC]

haha, nice work, man. it's nice to hear about your feelings on your work. thanks for sharing.

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calisto-lynn In reply to ??? [2008-12-18 21:34:29 +0000 UTC]

i just adore all your backgrounds in your comic pages they all look always so interesting!ยจ!!!

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ebas In reply to calisto-lynn [2008-12-23 07:41:48 +0000 UTC]

most ppl dont enjoy them

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calisto-lynn In reply to ebas [2008-12-23 09:47:16 +0000 UTC]

really? thats such a waste .. =_= i adore them!

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proteus2 [2008-12-18 21:11:04 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the tutorial man, savoured every line of it .
P

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ebas In reply to proteus2 [2008-12-23 07:42:16 +0000 UTC]

its not me teaching...just my thought process

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MrPlaid81 [2008-12-18 20:58:18 +0000 UTC]

Thats what my pages need. A lot of crap slopping all over the place. Good read.

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wanderingstreet [2008-12-18 20:20:01 +0000 UTC]

Your pencils always look tight. I always liked how your scenes look like they belong. By that I mean they have a nice progression and the individual elements (water bottles, coffee cups etc...) all look real and not like you added them as an after thought to bulk out the image. It all ties nice together.
I'll never get tired of your pages. I wish they released more b/w comics with just pencils in. I think people would like owning your work in that format (I would anyway).

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jemallman [2008-12-18 20:12:26 +0000 UTC]

omg, soo excited you dont even know lol.
i cant wait for it!

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bathill8 In reply to ??? [2008-12-18 20:04:57 +0000 UTC]

One of my DA highlights is getting your insights on panel to panel action (or in this case, lack of). Thanks for sharing the method to your madness again! You could at least post the rework in scraps can'tcha?

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maverick-99 In reply to ??? [2008-12-18 20:03:21 +0000 UTC]

looking forward to the issue!

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particle9 [2008-12-18 19:46:30 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I can definately relate to having to redraw crap dude. Its a major pain in the barumpus. I had to erase a huge chunk of a piece I recently did for J company. Its not fun becauseI tend to press down hard on the paper. So erasing is a real pain. turned out looking awesome though man.

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Rhahsid In reply to ??? [2008-12-18 19:22:11 +0000 UTC]

very nice

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toothmrc [2008-12-18 18:58:31 +0000 UTC]

very cool

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Destinyfall [2008-12-18 18:55:28 +0000 UTC]

Pages like this are never boring when someone puts as much attention to detail in them... like the stairway and each desk... i can't imagine how long it all took O__o Its really cool you gave such a long explanation too, its very helpful for those of us who suck at panel XD
Oh and last but not least i love the way you do hair!

PS. i think the outfit is cool

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mankinds-tourniquet In reply to ??? [2008-12-18 18:40:02 +0000 UTC]

Here's a question for you that I have always had issues with but yet you make look absolutly effortless. I usually over clutter my pages or have about the same amount of detail that you do in this page but mine usually come out looking vary confussing to the veiwer and over cluttered either way. How did you overcome that problem? Your lines are evident but yet don't get in the way of eachother. That is my biggest feat so far when it comes to alot of visual information in a small space.

Hannah

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betenik [2008-12-18 17:00:04 +0000 UTC]

you amaze me

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surfercalavera In reply to ??? [2008-12-18 16:57:55 +0000 UTC]

exellent detailing,, I like how you handle the last two panels

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kubankin [2008-12-18 16:52:59 +0000 UTC]

I like the little pencil details you have but i see what you mean, not every page can be action packed even for something like Witchblade.

Thanks for all the lengthy posts and thoughts, i always like that about you because i feel i can get a good idea of what sort of thoughts you might have.

Cheers

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WHITEGTP In reply to ??? [2008-12-18 16:23:09 +0000 UTC]

That level of thought and detail are what separates Eric Basaldua from the an industry of so so story tellers man. I am so glad to have been able to read that, it really threw a perspective on how these things should be approached. even the lighting in those environments makes my head spin.

Awesome page.

Thanks for the effort!

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gahlaktus117 [2008-12-18 16:00:45 +0000 UTC]

wow that is amazing and when i say amazing...i mean it.

'so, i alway say, when u got the pencil, u got the power of god'
lol thats so true

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ebas In reply to gahlaktus117 [2008-12-18 16:24:16 +0000 UTC]

i know right??

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gahlaktus117 In reply to ebas [2008-12-18 16:32:09 +0000 UTC]

Yep keep it up with your talent you can deffo play god lol.

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beachbead [2008-12-18 15:59:53 +0000 UTC]

wonderful detail and shadeing only thing i don't like is her outfit, sorry.. >.<

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ebas In reply to beachbead [2008-12-18 16:29:14 +0000 UTC]

damn..oh well

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beachbead In reply to ebas [2008-12-18 22:54:57 +0000 UTC]

sorry again you can beat me into the head if you wish..

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JunJ In reply to ??? [2008-12-18 15:54:34 +0000 UTC]

so~~~is it completed?
you made it by pencil only?or do you refine it again by photoshop?like do some cleaning....
do you?
(it is amazing.i know it is good because i can't make something nice like you did...so envy)

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ebas In reply to JunJ [2008-12-18 16:29:01 +0000 UTC]

no its not completed, i need to redraw the corrections..

no i DO NOT use cleanup in photoshop. this is what i draw like.

envy?? really

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JunJ In reply to ebas [2008-12-19 07:41:10 +0000 UTC]

ya~~of course!!!
so envy~~~(:>
so~~~what are you going to do?redraw the corrections?how it will be?

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Stigmartyr762 In reply to ??? [2008-12-18 15:52:16 +0000 UTC]

An excellent drawing, lots of detail, kinda reminds me of the reporters pit at the Daily Planet from the last Superman movie.

Sara can't be out there running around looking all sexy all of the time, she is a (some what) normal NYPD police officer.

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ebas In reply to Stigmartyr762 [2008-12-18 16:27:55 +0000 UTC]

true

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Stigmartyr762 In reply to ebas [2008-12-19 05:09:56 +0000 UTC]

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ElementalJess [2008-12-18 15:25:13 +0000 UTC]

I can't wait until I can draw so beautifully that I worry about tracking 'rops' through the panels...I'm just plain inspired by the quality of your pencil work and that you'll share with us here! So, thanks for that. *keeps watching* Can I ask how long it generally takes you to do a page like this?

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ebas In reply to ElementalJess [2008-12-18 16:27:39 +0000 UTC]

thanks for spying on me...hehe

this page took me a day and a half, but i always work slow at the beginings of books

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ElementalJess In reply to ebas [2008-12-18 23:34:29 +0000 UTC]

It's kind of heartening to hear you say that. I have this fantasy that great artists do their work reeeally fast. So it's good to remember to slow down I suppose.
Thanks!

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ebas In reply to ElementalJess [2008-12-19 10:26:24 +0000 UTC]

well at the end of the books, i do a pg a day and sometimes up to 3 if i have to...i jsut rather work slow

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