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I could use some serious advice about my work. Why is it going nowhere?here are some areas that I haven't improved on (and in some cases, gotten worse at) in the past few years:
1) imaginitive poses
2) different, dynamic angles
3) drawing full-body characters (most of the time I just draw torsos with no feet)
4) inking
5) scenes that depict action
6) scenes that include backgrounds
7) designing my own characters
8) drawing objects other than the human body
9) drawing/designing clothing, wrinkles
10) drawing the human body, esp. hands and legs
11) using my imagination
12) drawing hair that actually looks like hair (and not spikes or hay)
13) productivity, prolificity
14) speed
15) number collaborations or trades or gift arts for other artists
16) number of commissions
17) number of prints created/sold
18) using a variety of media
19) using/adapting new styles
20) completing bigger, more ambitious pictures
21) pushing artwork to further and further points of "finished," resulting in better quality of a final product
Here are some things I *have* improved upon:
1) CGing techniques
2) Drawing anime eyes
...I'm not feeling too good about myself now.
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Thank you for Posting this. All this advice from so many sources. Seeing that I am not alone I think was fundamental in showing me what I have to do. You have talent, you have potential. Decide where you want to take it and run.
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"12) drawing hair that actually looks like hair (and not spikes or hay)"....:giggles:...My rt hair often looks like hay..!!! :glomps: You ish awesome baby...Wish I had your ability to draw people...( I really sucks at people)..Hence, my claim to abstract art..~L~..
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If you want to work on inking practic at it.... (i havnted posted but 3 of my bad drawings so far) but draw the drawing twice and find out what you like best..or you can even scan it into your computer and ink it with Paintshop
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First off, I just wanted to say that I haven't really looked at your artwork very closely, other than what I see on the main dA page (which is quite a lot X3), so forgive me if I say things that aren't entirely correct - I'm not very familiar with your work.
That being said.
I believe you are a truly amazing artist. You have weak points, yes, but so does everyone. I think that for two years, the amount of improvement shown is very respectable. I have seen many artists who get stuck in a rut for... forever, so really - don't feel bad about that. Even if improvement is slow, it's still improvement.
I really appreciate that you acknowledge your need to get better, but don't think you're not already a good artist. Balance is important, in this xD Far too often, "famous" or popular artists don't attempt to improve, while on the other end of the spectrum, artists feel that their work is the most godawful crap to ever be created on the face of the earth : P In your case, I think it goes without saying that you're incredibly talented. Your colors and backgrounds take my breath away, and I love your skillful use of Photoshop. Your style is very unique and easily recognizable, and you seem to have an extensive history with each of your characters, which adds to your story (from the little I've heard of it, I'm already interested!).
I think in some ways, there is still room for you to be better, and you've listed pretty much all of them. But, again, everyone has areas in which they need to improve. I think that acknowledging your problem areas brings you halfway there, in terms of fixing them. A lot of times, I can't see my own mistakes, so I end up repeating them : P
In conclusion to this long and rather pointless comment, do not be disheartened. You will improve, and I know this because you already have, and you have both the talent and the willingness to change (for the better). Your artwork is already amazing, so I can only imagine what it will look like a few years down the line :3
((PS: Don't feel obligated to reply to this xD I read your journal entry, and since I'm not even a regular commenter, anyways, I understand completely. Cheers!))
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you!! you criticize yourseLf wayy too much, after looking through your gallery, i can see that your works have become very nicely detailed.. and yeah the anatomy looks good too ^^ and besides two years ago your art was freaking awesome still!! but of course, we all know that you could be way better than this, just keep at it.. you might even start to like it yourself =]
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Everyone has given such great advice that I really don't know what else to say. But I want to comment to let you know that I feel the exact way you do about my art. I'm a major perfectionist, and I just get so depressed when I see other people's art and CG stuff. Back in May, I had this total break down and just filed all of my art away and told myself I'd never draw again. But, my friends have been really helpful with encouragement. And that's what you need: freinds who encourage you and just tell you keep going! Now, I'm not your friend, I don't even know you! :-P But I just wanted to encourage you! So, keep it up!! Practice, practice, practice!! Rome wasn't built in a day, and art isn't perfected in a day either. (Okay, lame quote-thing, but you get the point!) :-P I would love to get some advice on CG, though currently I don't have any software, but if you have any tips, let me know!! :-D
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I beg to differ.
I think you have improve much!
In the two pictures you show, I see major improvement (even though it was already great!! 
With the pictures, your people, seem more "fuller". The anatomy (like you mention) has gotten loads better. The body looks more real, but still a hint of anime in it.
The clothes have lots more detail.
You have improved!
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wow, you became better since 2 years, though you rocked 2 years ago as well!
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i think u have improved a bit more than u think. u have a few works that depict action and are ambitious, like that trigun one and that recent commission for example. i think ur style is unique also. i'd be happy if someone would want to pay for something of mines or if someone on here would like to do an art trade/collab w/ me. lol.
i have probs w/ imaginative poses, clothing, bgs, and hand and legs also, just look at my stuff. so u're not alone in those depts. ^__^ i guess it just take practice, a slow time-consuming practice...>_<
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Iether way, there both kicking my ass. No matter how many times i say i hate you, you should very well know that i envy you in every way imagainable. There are so many ways that i wish i could draw like you, and if not that at least be able to CG like you do. Ive been watching your art for friggin' ever now, and the only thing ive seen has been more atension to your detail in clothing. So, for one more time Matt Page, i hate you...in a good way.
Feel better, because there are still hundreds of people who cannot do what you do, weather you like it or not.
P.S No i cant spell good.
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First off, I think a lot of your criticism comes from the fact that these two particular pieces are very similar when it comes to the subject. When it comes down to it, your style now is not so blatantly anime. You've grown accustomed to defining noses and lips and not avioding them for giant eyes, as many artists do. 2003 was a good year as far as originality goes. A quite a few of the pieces there had wonderfully detailed clothing. You seemed like you knew the characters you were drawing...almost like you had their wardrobe in your head and you could just pick something they would actually wear.
I think you could help yourself improve and kill several birds with one stone. Motivate yourself to do gift art for other artists--use it as an excuse to create a new character...perhaps try working in that artist's medium...also use it as motvation to completely finish a piece. You could also give yourself deadlines that are reasonable but still push you to complete art faster without losing the quality that you're looking for. Most of your work has an antique feel to it that I like...you use soft lines and tend to stick with mostly monochrome. If you want to work on dynamic poses...and wrinkling...draw characters standing on a wall, or the ceiling. To spark dynamic ideas, try to get away from just having one character in the image.
Also think about seperating your drawing into different categories for practice--still portraits where you can work on design and proportions, and dynamic shots where you can experiment with poses and action. Think about how hair moves when different forces act on it...wind...water. Look at other artists' technique for ideas (The Chii fanart you did does not have straw-hair at all). Think about an action sequence and how it would look if you were one character or another...a nearby potted plant...or a fly on the ceiling. As for backgrounds, I think you're having trouble because you get tired from putting so much effort into the subject. Also, if you don't have a good idea of what kind of character you're drawing...you may not know where to place them.
You want to get better at drawing non-people type objects, try just sitting down and drawing out a whole background from an odd angle...try to make it as detailed as possible...then see what kind of character you could place on top. Yes, you could use the wonders of technology to transfer one over the other.
I am certainly not trying to get you to throw out your style, because I love it. It feels so placid, like old photographs. You just seem frustrated and, most of all, dissapointed in yourself. Maybe try things one at a time, because it does seem overwhelming. I think that you certainly haven't run out of potential, you're far from that point--you've just hit a temporary plateau. The best thing you can do right now is challenge yourself...Maybe you could even start looking for inspiration from unusual sources. I hope you come out of this funk with some goals, and I look forward to more of your stunning work.
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Oh goodness, of course you've improved! Your style is so much more unique now, and your proportions, anatomy, and fabric folds look great! I could go on for a while, but everything that I want to say has probably already been said. XD;
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I think you are a wonderful artist, but I can understand you not feeling to good about yourself. Though I don't draw(for the mere fact that I can't),I am a writer and I really understand your frustration.
There are only a few things that I can say that I have gotten better at, but ton more things that I haven't improved or gotten worse at.
All I can really say it try looking at new and different things to get ideas and stuff. Perhaps look at tutorials and other peoples work to get ideas for posses and such.
Even if you haven't improved much, I still think you are a wonderful artist. I love all your work. ^.^
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Personally, I agree with both the masses and you. Not to be a downer but i have notice that you don't seem to be putting as much originality and imagination into your work as you used too. There are less poses, less action, and less emotion then i used to see from your work. I almost get the impression that your either losing interest in drawing these characters or you simply can't be bothered. However not ALL your newer work shows this. "Your Eyes Can Deceive You" from Jun 13/03, "WINGSPAN" from Jul 4/03, and "FALLOUT" from Feb. 4/04 are all newer pieces that show your great talent with poses, background and angles. So I don't believe your lost any of your talent preysay, you just don't use these elements as much as you used too.
I also however agreee with the masses that say your detailing has gotten much better, this is something to seem to be putting alot of time and efort into to make it look amazing wich is really good to see. Either way, this is my two bits on your progress, and weither they matter to you or not I have given them and I hope it gives some insight. Keep up the great work and remember, you have talent and are loved greatly here and deviantart for that.
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woa,woa, woa, Just a minute, YOu improved hugely!!! Look, the form of the face, creativity with the expression, anatomy and figure overall has gotten much better! You've also improved greatly at wisely using shading to convey detail! You are being way to hard on yourself. But, if I was that good, I'd be grateful not to improve, but just maintain my current level, because you were pretty damn good to begin with.
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ok, first things first, when was the last time you went to those other sites you used to upload your work on, you know the ones. but that aside everyones right about the manga, it seems to be the center of all your art. I also belive your style is at its peek, so try adding in other peoples styles into yours, it may look bad but it may help a lot too. Good luck. From a long time fan 
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I think you've improve a lot...your detailing...it way more detailed..^^ and there other stuff too..XD
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Mental examination! Your brain is a big ass science project being messed w/through your life. Make someting explode.
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Ever since I first saw your art all them years back, your style has changed and evolved at a pretty fair pace. In fact, you're one of the few artists whose work I look to when I get to feeling like this. = P Trust, your art will carry you through this and you will grow as an artist. I know the feeling of not drawing. In fact, the last few months have been spent playing video games instead of really working. Most of my current stuff has come from my ever-present work from my college art classes and select pieces from the job I took this summer. -.-
Of the list you have I figure that collabs, commissions and prints should come after all else for a bit. My advice is to get a camera of some ilk, get a cheap two drawer file cabinet or some other container that can be seperated out in half and start collecting images. That's right. Go out and get as many images as you can that you think could help you work out your issues. Take pics of trees, buildings, and/or streets for use as backgrounds. Snap pics of people in everyday situations: walking, talking, being active. Tear through magazines and the like and scoop them up. You take those pics and throw them into one half of that container. This will be one big fat clipping file. you use this as reference when drawing or practicing new techniques. The other half you use to collect sketches and finished pieces you've done since the clipping file and maybe a little before it. Think of this as an inbox of sorts. Go to that "inbox" when you're looking for something to do. You can finish the sketches or simply use what you have as a jump off to something different or better. It'll force you to look back at what you've done and think as to how you can make it better.
Once you get back into the swing of things, you can pick up the collabs/commissions/prints and set a date in which to get that done. Think of it as a self-imposed deadline. Hell, this could jump start you into getting faster in your art without sacrificing your overall sense of style. Give yourself a little wiggle room when setting these dates too. You're looking to increase speed and efficiency, not drive yourself to drink. And one last tidbit that works for me: Unplug the game systems, hide the portables and loose the remote. This tends to make me a little more focused on drawing stuff and a little less likely to rock some Tekken or get lost in yet another random tactical RPG.
Of course, that's just me and well... I'm still trying to free myself of my own art demons. It takes time is all. If you focus on the problems you can loose the path and you'll be back to this situation again. Good luck and I hope all is well since this post is about three days late. *Zoinks*
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Wait!
You've improved on detail and human figure, as well as clothing folds!
.. I'll shaddap now. XD I honestly see a huge difference in your work. I wish you'd give -ME- tips on making mine improve for cheese's sake. o_O
As other's said, just keep at it. That's only two years and I've been drawing for fricken four. 
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after seeing "under the sky so blue" i dont think you could say you have gotten worse in any of those categories, you have improved by leaps and bounds, i beleive though if you are feeling you are not improving you may just be in a rut right now and are not feeling inspired to push yourself, maybe you could take a break from the commisions where your creativity is limited and do something that you are really passionate about, i bet you will be suprised what you will come up with.
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although our style are completely different. almost everything you listed is on my list of problems, i find that when trying to finish a new peice, i come to a dead end, not knowing how to appoach something, and getting a different reaction to something that i though was an achivement, cause, no matter what people will post here, what they say with affect what you do with your art, you have to take the grunt of the negitivty you get (well in your case, short through the hundreds of comments of praise) and try to work at that. art is a life study, anyone who ever claims to be at their best is talking bullshit.
my advice you you.
if at first you dont succeed.
fail fail again.
but improve along the way.
-jay banzia
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You're artowrk is great. Much better than many others out there... It's gotten better not worse.
As for improving just try new things. Your artwork might take another 2 years to "imporve" the way you want it to. But it takes time. Just flow with it.
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Eep. that's a mightly long list of things! Still, I think its healthy to want to sit down and critique your own work, just so long as you don't sit there and go "I'm poop!" because frankly that isn't a fair statement.
Ultimatly - you have something you feel comfortable with, and its no bad thing to want to keep at that good thing, heck if I could draw eyes better I'd feel happy ^_^
Best of luck, in whatever you decide to do to shake things up - I'll still be watching the journey, that's for sure
LL
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um.... sorry to say... for the character, i prefer the old one. but for the costume, i prefer the new one. so combine them ok....^v^'''............hehe
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don't sell yourself so short! your figure drawing has improved immensely.
I'd say more constructive things, but am too tired to concentrate on the list. so. just the figures. but you've improved a lot in general, as well.
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Well matt, to tell the truth i like the older 2002 style. That style wasnt anime-ish nor was it realistic. In all fairness it was perfect. Thogh you seem to want to move on. Understandable, but my choice is with 2002 style. Keep up the good work all the same. Your still a god to me.
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Well, I've been following you for a fairly long time matt.. probably 2 years. I personally have not been as impressed with your work lately as I was in the past... I know you're a great artist because of what you have done in the past, but that hasn't come through as much in the present. The two pieces you have up there could be compared in a few ways. First off, the one on the left isn't stiff and has alot of life behind it and abandons any realism in the face which works with the style. The one on the right has more realistic anatomy all around, but has a face that is part anime and partly real... it doesn't do much for me. Maybe I've just grown to love different things. My advice if you want, try hanging around a place like conceptart.org, because that really inspires me to try to work at different things (so many amazing sketchbooks and artists). Even though I am still a complete slacker with a video game addiction, I feel like I can start exploding with art at any day. At least that is, I feel like I know exactly where I need to take my art.
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personally, i think the image before this (with the guy and the girl in a room) is a wonderful improvement, you're pro-status when it comes to creating emotion with light.. lately you have been saying that you need to stop drawing anime girls.. well, there's no point in stopping what you're good at. but maybe try implementing some type of background or try to tell a story, even if it is just a random person.. like a girl who just found out thet her boyfriend was killed in an accident or something, i know you can do it.
you just chose a lesser quality (but still very good) picture to compare to 2002. instead of comparing your latest work, you should find the best piece you've done recently and go from there. good luck!
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your art is still sickingly awesome. your talent is beyond what i can comprehend.
*glomps*
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i like the style of yer drawings!
if u want 2 xplore new fields, i suggest u try to blend CG with scanned stuff (like CG backgrounds or sth)
u could also try far out angles, like mirror or sphear-like distortion, or angles from like the floor or sth...
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what you are doing now is a step for improvement. yeah, you may not have done all the above listed, but at least you realize it. i agree with peachtree- your style will grow accordingly, just keep drawing and trying out new things! youre one of the most inspiring/creative people ive ever met, seriously. in fact, youre the first person to ever recieve that comment from me.
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Hmm hmm hmm! I kinda have the same problem. When I should draw, I play videogames 
*whirls away*
ps. Draw something with a style you hate and force yourself to do it. I think after that you have more inspiration to do something else and new
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For 2 years that really is not too bad. I think you're just not seeing differences that really are there. Remember, you are your own worst critic. There are elements in your present day picture that are much more dynamic. For example, I do see an improvement on anatomy. In your present drawing she seems fuller. There's more volume and she looks like she has more meat on her bones. In the picture from two years ago the anatomy just seems a lot more simple with less of a lean, muscular, and healthy look; more thin and scrawny. The clothing also looks much more simple in the older drawing while looking rather dynamic (mostly in your lines) in the newer one. Even in the hair, in your 2004 drawing, even though you have the spikes that you seem to abhor so much, the bangs look very nice and more like hair than in your 2002 drawing.
I agree with what ~egfox said about you developing a tightness of style, too. I couldn't have put it better if I tried. The linework seems very nicely controlled in present day, and as if you have more consciousness on what you are doing. These are all things you probably just don't see because you are the artist. Artists usually need an outside opinion because we're always too hard on ourselves. Of course that doesn't mean "you're fine, stop trying so hard," but there's no reason to feel that bad about yourself and your art.
I, just like many others at times, do feel the exact same way as you do here. I haven't been drawing nearly as much lately because I've just been preoccupied with other things. So, as a result, I also tend to feel that I haven't improved or even gotten worse at certain things (some of which are on that list). My gallery is also kinda shameful because I haven't updated in a long time, and it doesn't even reflect what I'm capable of. The only advice I really know to give (that, I have to be honest, I need to take myself) is to just simply draw more... and more... and more. Everytime you sit and start to do something rather unproductive (i.e. video games, watching T.V., surfing the internet, etc.) just try and stop yourself to go draw instead. Even if you sit and doodle with a pencil and paper while you're watching T.V., you have to just keep drawing a good amount during the day if you want to see more of an improvement over a shorter period of time. Of course, it is also so important to take advantage of chances to try new things. I definitely know it's easier said than done, but practice... as much as humanly possible... that's all it really comes down to. That is my advice to you. Go forth and conquer. Good luck!
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Hum hum...heh, I've never commented here before.
Your art is your own style, and its really obvious. I like your style, alot, too.
Inking is difficult, and its just something that you have to put your mind to.
As for all those other things, well...I guess the only thing is to practice what you hate to do.
In another 2 years, you'll be able to look at your work you did 4 years ago and be like, wow! You're already really talented as it is, so don't get down about it!!
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Haha! Our problems are opposite. I have no shortage of incredible poses and ideas for art, I'm just not good enough to bring them to life.
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Well, you know what I did to help me? I got a job as a caricature artist. No really getting a job like that really helps you improve so much. Now granted I still have a long ways to go but still if you look at stuff that was done by me dated a few months ago and now, you'd notice the difference.
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awww. dun be so hard on yerself about it, Fo-kun... ~.~
i can see improvement there.. i mean, overall flow of lines for a start, and the whoa belts, buckles wraps etc has always been one of your outstanding traits. it's amazing really.
if i could get the nift' of human anatomy like you do, i wouldn't NEED to improve..! o_o you portray JUST the right amount of balance with clothes and objects that really evens out pictures, i am speaking very generally now. the last few 'room' pictures i have seen in yer gallery, they are excellent! your grasp of freeing up, and really characterizing, yet keeping all them 'human' is truely amazing.
there is sumthing very special about your art style Fo, and it gives me so much inspiration.. :3
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You know the way I see it? Your art has improved in all those ways you said it didn't. You just can't see it cuz' you're your own worst critic. And if you weren't you wouldn't be so good. I'd say your style has changed quite a bit too. It seems more simple and young on the left and on the right, well, it seems like you have put souls into your characters, like they have been through a bit more life... about 27 months or so. And that's because you have. Don't feel so down.. put on some good creatice music. Something with out words. I recomend just about everything in the Gladiator soundtrack. Put it on, close yoru door, get comfy, close yoru eyes, and sit there for the entirety of a good 2 or 3 songs. Think about nothing but what the music means on it's own, with out the movie, or anything like that. Then draw the first pic that comes into your head. doesn't hafta be amazing.. but I am sure it will cheer you up.. even if you only doodle it. That's what I do when I am feeling like my art sucks. The doodles don't always come out good, but I always feel better and tons more creative after. If it picks me up about my art, it should you too, if it doesn't then I sure something else will. I like your art.. and so do tons of other people.. they aren't just being nice. That has to count for something.
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From what I see you've gotten better at face shapes too. And there's more detail in the second face. The arms are a little better. . . .
I won't say that you're still better than other artists out there, because, even though you are, this doesn't help you personally. I can't count the times people have seen a shitty piece of my poetry and said it was still better than anything they had written. Well that may be true, but it's not up to -my- standards, and that's what's important. Anyway, this is about you not me, and all I can say is that maybe you've been distracted or busy lately and haven't had enough time to spend on your artwork. I know that for a lot of people when they're overworked they tend to do less quality art. 
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I am sorry if anyone's already done something similar to this, I got bored.
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I'll now just point out some things that I actually do see that have changed~
First off, look at the face. Just look at how much better you've gotten at that, you actually added lips, the eyes look much more realistic and it's not wide-headed. You've also gotten better at arms, the older one's arm just seems too thin/fake, like some mannequin, and the elbow looked wrong. Now you've got something that looks like a real arm. Even the hands have improved. Before they were just uselessly there just so that she'd have hands, now they actually go with the picture, with the mood. Oh, and you've gotten better at drawing breasts. The stomach seems to be quite an improvement. The older one had a flat, dull and somewhat doll-like belly, yet the new one seems perfect. It's something that I'd actually see. And you have gotten better at the folding in the clothing, even if only slightly. Since I can't really see anything else at the moment, I'll just stop there. Whatever, you are your biggest critic, or so the saying goes.
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Think of it this way:
1) at least you draw better than a lot of artists out there.
2) You are making a profit from your artwork. All the artists I know (and I know a lot of them) draw for fun, never even consider selling their work.
"Try and remember that most of drawing is supposed to be about enjoyment."
If you want to learn, then get a comicbook and steal a pose (make sure you tell where you got the ref from) and draw your own character in that pose. It helps a lot, especially when you want to learn more action poses.
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I speak as a fan of yours. You are being WAY TOO HARD ON YOURSELF! You draw super well. You drew super well 27 months ago too. I see many improvements, and if you want me to go ranting and list them I certainly will. :3 Or you can just trust me, I'm like smart 'n' stuff!
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to tell you the truth i kinda agree with that.......
i might think that the only way of improving is by going out of your border lines 
keep practicing tho 
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Matt, I feel weird writing a comment on one of your peices, since I vowed to myself a long time ago that I would leave you alone since you wanted nothing to do with me. However, after considering the fact that...well...shit happens, and people move one whether with your consent or without, I'll be more than clad to share my thoughts on your problem, whether you choose to take them or not.
Ok, first off, no matter how good you are, there will always be someone better than you, in whatever you do this statement lies true. I'm sure all of the artists that you are comparing yourself are comparing themselves with others and gettind just as depressed. They are all worrying over what step they should take next in how to better their artwork. *shrug* That's life. You work hard to improve yourself, your talents, and other people around you, and then you die, whether feeling accomplished in your tasks or not. After we stopped talking, I began to despise all "popular" artists. I held the largest grudge against all artists who seemed to hold a high standpoint on any art community i knew of, mainly in fear of being hurt. But as I grew to understand other artists (ones that we would call "un-popular") I realized that there are hardly any artists out there who didn't in the long run work for themselves...and that's when I started to improve. I started to realize that art isn't soo much a statement so that everyone can develop they're opinion and you can get depressed or happy over what they think, but instead art was more of an expression of yourself. As cheesy as that is, no matter what we do in life it is all an expression of who we are. Matt anytime I see your artwork, I know more about you. I know more about what you're learning. I gain more of an understanding of your emotions and who you are as an individual.
The best thing about letting my eyes fall on your work is probably the fact that I draw so much inspiration from your work, so much hope that one day I'll stand in your shoes, though that my not happen.
On the downside, when I see your artwork, I see a place that I will never be. I see a person that I will never know as well as I did at one point in time. I see another being who will become much better of an artist than I will ever have an understanding of. And most importantly, I seem to loose faith in what my artwork will ever come to be.
Is that your fault? No...it is my own. Instead of commenting with a smile, I turn my back with a tear. *shrug*
I cannot truely say whether your artist's block, and down attitude is your fault, or ours as commenters. But I do believe that yoy've more talent than anyone I've ever met. I knew this from the first time i spoke to you...whether it was that important to you or not. I believe that your artwork will go far, and I believe that us, as your fans and friends, will support your artwork and you through everything you go through...that is the task we chose to accept when we decided to become a part of your following. I don't know how much my words will help, I doubt they will help at all, but, Matt, I just wanted you to know, that you may see your art as a failure but we see your artwork as inspiration, hope, and more importantly a little part of you. Don't give up.
Leslie (Freckles81407)
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