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KholdMalik In reply to ??? [2014-04-09 20:50:14 +0000 UTC]

For real? XD

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Ferrabra In reply to KholdMalik [2014-04-10 05:53:35 +0000 UTC]

Well, the communism has some similarities with the religious doctrine ...

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KholdMalik In reply to Ferrabra [2014-04-10 10:20:11 +0000 UTC]

I believe it is relative - with the right (or wrong) logic and twist of words (and ignoring other facts), almost anything can have some similarities with almost anything.

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precioussnowflake95 In reply to ??? [2014-04-05 21:05:02 +0000 UTC]

But these symbols do not represent the unity of Russia at all.  Marxism (some people call it marxism, but in reallity it is judaism.) slaughtered 20-40 millions Russian people, and thousands if people left Soviet Union because they were the "enemy of the state". Every fucking man in communist leadership was Jewish, they hated Russians, and even the Church. Solzenitsyn roll over in his graves. But it does not matter because at least you had bigger power over the world...

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Ferrabra In reply to precioussnowflake95 [2014-04-08 06:09:20 +0000 UTC]

I do not think we need for authority over the whole world. It makes sense only reassert control over the Russian-speaking regions and expand our influence. But it is important to resist the devilish liberal ideas of the United States, as well as to resist the harmful influences of Zionism. Every nationalist in any country should do it.

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Brontannais In reply to Ferrabra [2015-02-07 03:40:22 +0000 UTC]

Your ideas are hypocritical. You preach isolationism AND imperialism worse than the men you propose to despise and rationalize racism as superiority all while supposedly believing in a political form intended to establish blind social equality and redistribution, not forceful indoctrination. God forbid your 'USSR' ever to rise again and become threat, that finer nations whom accept their mistakes have to waste lives to crush you. Russia was finest as a nation of rational, modest humans, through men like Dostoevsky and Tolstoy, men who saw beyond the confined thoughts of class, race, and creed and saw only the emotional depth of the honest individual. THOSE men left marks on the world the petty USSR would seek to topple

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Templerlord In reply to ??? [2014-04-05 18:17:53 +0000 UTC]

In modern era, everything that made Russia pride comes from USSR.

The new federation fix SOME of the problems from the soviet union, but loses ALL advantage gained by their forefathers.

As a chinese I have a complicated feeling about your country. It will be rude to say thank you for showing the wrong way of reform, but truth is if the soviet union didn't collapse that fast, then china will collapse before it. The disaster there told us the truth about what did US want and what did their so called democracy means, it waked us from that "american dream".

It will be unfair if the soviet union can't come back. But I belive that someday, the international revolution will come true.

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lordmep In reply to Templerlord [2014-04-12 14:31:04 +0000 UTC]

As I understand, WW3 almost started between China and the Soviets.

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Templerlord In reply to lordmep [2014-04-12 17:01:42 +0000 UTC]

That's why the soviet union died quickly after that, and China nearly followed it: they both corrupted by imerpialism.

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lordmep In reply to Templerlord [2014-04-12 17:49:00 +0000 UTC]

I would have said they were corrupted by Socialism.

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Templerlord In reply to lordmep [2014-04-12 19:13:06 +0000 UTC]

Interesting, seems like you know china more than I am.

You can say that in socialism period, china didn't have a very good time. But all I know is social justice just became worse without it. I don't even have to metion about Russia.

Try to live in a country without faith yourself before making these silly comments.

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lordmep In reply to Templerlord [2014-04-12 19:36:46 +0000 UTC]

I don't really get what you're saying.

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Templerlord In reply to lordmep [2014-04-12 20:30:42 +0000 UTC]

I'm saying that, without socialism, Chinese people and Russian people are both having hard time.

Our state grows strong, yes. But the poor here didn't getting better. Sometimes they are even harder to live.

Russia is far more worse, their state goes weaker and never recovered.

And you know none of these because you are american and live in US.

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lordmep In reply to Templerlord [2014-04-12 22:43:04 +0000 UTC]

Soviet socialism, when having 2 goats while most only had one was a crime punishable by death. Yeah. Glory days.

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Templerlord In reply to lordmep [2014-04-13 06:01:59 +0000 UTC]

Repeating those propagandas to a man actually living in a former socialist state is just ridiculous. Stop that please. I know what socialism feels like, and it's not like what your country lied about.

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lordmep In reply to Templerlord [2014-04-13 14:55:05 +0000 UTC]

So you deny that Kulaks were slaughtered as enemies of the state? And that this was done after all the land owners and nobility were also butchered?

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Templerlord In reply to lordmep [2014-04-13 15:06:38 +0000 UTC]

I won't deny that, sometimes I praise that.

The problem is, is that have anything to do about the fact we a living in a better society in socialism period than now?

And I would ask that same question for the thrid time: why do you always think you know a socialist state better than their own people?

Is that because you born form the united state, the land of free, the leader of democracy, and the world's police? And that made you a better people than us brain-washed fools from eastern world?

I suggest you don't stop receiving those anti-communism propagandas. Your mind will probably collapse without them.

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lordmep In reply to Templerlord [2014-04-13 15:11:11 +0000 UTC]

When everyone is disincentive to do any more than absolutely necessary, ya get things like nation wide starvation, which Russia suffered pretty often.
By that logic, how can you say socialism is better than any other system when you don't live in countries where those systems are in place. For all you know, those place are better off. But you can't know because it's impossible for someone to research what goes on elsewhere.
Good luck with the next nation wide cleansing. Since you have access to the internet while others don't, things don't bode well for you.

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Templerlord In reply to lordmep [2014-04-13 15:48:13 +0000 UTC]

I lived in capitalism enough much dude, China now IS capitalism. And Russian? Yes, of course they are living in capitalism now.

But you, have you ever lived in a socialist state? We are the ones who actually lived in different societies. How about you, logic genius?

I do fear about the next nation wide cleansing. Because I belive in communism, and those one who owns our country won't be happy with that.

And yes, we don't have nation wide starvation anymore, because now the starvation is only among the poor. What an achivement in social justice!

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lordmep In reply to Templerlord [2014-04-13 17:09:47 +0000 UTC]

I live in the US. We're getting there as the state gains ever more power in it's war on the people.

You should be afraid because you're here talking to me instead of spending your every waking second in service of your god, the state. That's arguably worse than treason.

Every time you say social justice, all I can think of are people like these www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLpzza… Liers and attention whores.

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Templerlord In reply to lordmep [2014-04-13 17:47:40 +0000 UTC]

My state has already betrayed socialism, and I honour it no more.

But hey, that won't stop you put everything you hate onto the name of socialism, right? You don't even need to hear anything about truth. Actually you think you are already the avatar of truth. And yeah...if you ARE the avatar of truth, then the other one who seeks social justice must be liers and attention whores!

I see, this logic works for you. I can also say "every time you say something anti-communism, all I can think of are the Nazis who fight a war against the soviet union" , but I won't. Because I'm not such an avatar of truth like you.

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lordmep In reply to Templerlord [2014-04-13 17:59:04 +0000 UTC]

But I thought the socialist mindset was that you serve the state unconditionally.

But the National Socialist Workers Party were socialists, so that doesn't really work.

Again, you're spending time talking to an American instead of serving your masters.

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Templerlord In reply to lordmep [2014-04-13 22:25:27 +0000 UTC]

"But I am the avatar of truth and what I thought must be true, blablabla."

Yep, talking to you is indeed a waste of time, that has nothing to do with my political faith.

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lordmep In reply to Templerlord [2014-04-14 00:18:17 +0000 UTC]

Didn't you already say you were afraid of the next cleansing? Why do you serve a faith that intends to punish you for not being poor enough to oppress? Take comfort in the possibility that america may soon enjoy the bliss of socialism www.beliefnet.com/columnists/o…

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Templerlord In reply to lordmep [2014-04-14 03:47:57 +0000 UTC]

Because the next cleansing will target on the communists, socialists, and other left wing supporters who cares for the poor. I did already said that China has already poisoned by capitalism and imperialism.

Well, I could lay low about that. Hail capitalism! Hail the reform!

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lordmep In reply to Templerlord [2014-04-14 04:21:07 +0000 UTC]

I don't care for that word. It's a term invented by communists to turn the act of trading without big brother monitoring your every move into an ism.

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Templerlord In reply to lordmep [2014-04-14 06:37:33 +0000 UTC]

You are supposing the white terror is made by communists?

You really are the avatar of truth.

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lordmep In reply to Templerlord [2014-04-14 14:57:47 +0000 UTC]

Well yeah. Communism is all about finding every means of dividing the people so that they can be more easily conquered by the state. Race bating seems a logical approach. I might have already given this link, but at this point I don't especially care for this smug contest www.scifiwright.com/2014/03/th… I concede you win on that front.

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Templerlord In reply to lordmep [2014-04-14 15:39:23 +0000 UTC]

“The workers should unite and start revolution in their own countries, overthrow their imperialist goverments and put an end to this predatory war.”
 - Lenin's opinion about what the second Internale should do during WW1.

All about finding every means of dividing the people, of course. You are the avatar of truth anyway.

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lordmep In reply to Templerlord [2014-04-14 15:43:29 +0000 UTC]

Do you get off by saying "avatar of truth"? In any case, I already conceded you win the smug contest. Fare thee well, and move to North Korea where your ideology still dominates.

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Templerlord In reply to lordmep [2014-04-14 16:08:29 +0000 UTC]

When I criticize capitalism or communism, I do study before I say anything.
If I want to criticize capitalism, I won't just read anti-capitalism informations, I also read other things that supports capitalism. I won't just read the point come from the communist faction, I also read the things from the capitalism. I learn from people who against capitalism, I also learn from people who defend capitalism. After all that, I put them in my mind, and make a conclusion about it.

I did these progresses before I choose to belive in communism too. I was a 100% liberalist and anti-revolutionist before I did those studies.

I need to dig out the viewpoint from both side for myself before I made my own point, because I'm not the avatar of truth. I cannot decide what is truth, I have to search for it.

But you, you are different. Somehow you don't need to do any serious research before you make your point. You can made your point just from the propagandas of your country, from those ones who goes against communism. Points from those who stand at your same side - that's all you need!

So, I have to think that you don't need to find out truth like other mortals do. You must be the avatar of truth then.

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Ferrabra In reply to Templerlord [2014-04-05 19:17:39 +0000 UTC]

You're right, comrade. Thank you for your understanding. We begin painful recovery period. Beware! Imperialism is still very strong very crafty. This is our common enemy, an enemy of Russia and China.

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Templerlord In reply to Ferrabra [2014-04-05 20:32:17 +0000 UTC]

Indeed. Imperialism is our enemy, no matter it comes from outside or inside. The outer imperialism could be fought back, but the inner imperialism need more struggle to deal with. It may cost very much to purge imperialism from this world, or even from our own country. However, I trust Russia. It may takes time, but a country once bared the red mark will not get off from it easily.

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KholdMalik In reply to Templerlord [2014-04-06 02:32:39 +0000 UTC]

That's the worst thing about imperialism, comrades: It has no nationality. It might be the only thing that unite various capitalist classes against the people (kinda ironic that imperialists, being so supremely selfish can unite, huh?).

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Templerlord In reply to KholdMalik [2014-04-06 03:42:08 +0000 UTC]

But it's united via benifits, rather than idea (nationalists are united by idea but cannot spread across multiple country). I think that's the only chance we can take as our advandage.

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KholdMalik In reply to Templerlord [2014-04-06 03:54:00 +0000 UTC]

Agreed. While they are united, it is still a hollow union. The recent events between Putin and the US show that imperialists can clash amongst themselves.

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Pandaren-Chaplain In reply to ??? [2014-04-05 13:40:55 +0000 UTC]


Аха-ха.

Нет.

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Ferrabra In reply to Pandaren-Chaplain [2014-04-05 15:34:20 +0000 UTC]

Да, уважаемый, да
Не думаете же Вы, что Ваши нытьё и гримасы что-то изменят?

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Pandaren-Chaplain In reply to Ferrabra [2014-04-05 15:54:21 +0000 UTC]

Нет, уважаемый, нет.

Весь мир знает что русских можно не бояться. Теперь только презирать.
Как будто бы ваш "плакатик" что-то изменит. Конгрессмены-янки наложат кирпичей в портки при взгляде на него? На вряд-ли. Китайцы передумают вторгаться к нам, испугавшись? Не-а. Европейцы-снобы растеряются и тут-же попросятся в Великую Новую Россию? Аха-ха.

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Ferrabra In reply to Pandaren-Chaplain [2014-04-05 15:59:33 +0000 UTC]

Обпрезирались уже. Оно и видно
Китайцам в зоне многолетней мерзлоты самое оно жить
А Пидропа даром не нужна.

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Pandaren-Chaplain In reply to Ferrabra [2014-04-05 16:22:10 +0000 UTC]

Что общего у китайцев и тараканов? Выживают везде. Тут их полгорода. А в Якутске, так для примера, просто навалом.
Да, янки теперь рады, что у них есть новый кремлевский чертик из табакерки навроде лихого малого Бена Ладена. Маленького, правда, гнусного паршивца, эдакого крошки Цахеса.
Тогда пересаживайтесь на Ладу Калиду. В то время как культура и наука России просто взята у тех самых евров. Даже христианство пришло к нам из "Гейропы".
О, неужто вы так страстно хотите записаться в азиаты... не так ли?

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Ferrabra In reply to Pandaren-Chaplain [2014-04-05 17:58:52 +0000 UTC]

Сдаётся мне, я зря трачу время, беседуя с тупоголовым оппа-ботом.
Ничего умнее либерастических агиток Вы предложить не в состоянии.

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Bassiya In reply to Ferrabra [2014-04-05 20:38:31 +0000 UTC]

Откуда такие вообще берутся

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Ferrabra In reply to Bassiya [2014-04-08 06:17:15 +0000 UTC]

Ума не приложу, как эта мразота на русской земле появляется...

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WolfieInu In reply to Pandaren-Chaplain [2014-04-05 15:08:17 +0000 UTC]

Да.

But seriously though, I'm all for the revival of a stronger Federation. The Soviets though, they did some bad stuff to their own people. So obviously that would be a bad idea.

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Pandaren-Chaplain In reply to WolfieInu [2014-04-05 15:20:59 +0000 UTC]

Russia is not a federation, no matter what telling its own title. Institutions of local governments is wrecked and inner russian economy is very simple: squeezing of everything from the other parts of Russia for sake of Kremlin gang members. Communism was build for a 75 years with the price of millions of killed, enslaved and starvd to death and what? All that gone down to the drain.

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WolfieInu In reply to Pandaren-Chaplain [2014-04-05 15:27:23 +0000 UTC]

Well yeah, like I said, Communism sucks. I know, we were fighting the Commies at the time and their Marxist buddies are now our government.

Still from what I heard, Russia's economy has been faring rather well under the Federation (which is the official name, so I'm calling it that) and lately you did get the Crimea back, so it seems to me that you're doing comparatively well. Especially when contrasted with how the West (in which I include my own country) has been running itself into the ground lately.

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Ferrabra In reply to WolfieInu [2014-04-05 15:52:42 +0000 UTC]

We are not talking about communism , which happily died. It is the restoration of Russia's greatness . Since the restoration of the monarchy is unlikely (although I would prefer the monarchy ) , we have to act within the framework of parliamentary democracy , but without submission to the will of the West. I hope that within the BRICS we can support South Africa - and God give you get rid of the communist regime of the ANC !
As for the red flag and symbols , they are united us and I hope that they eventually lost touch with communism. Ignore the Pandaren-Chaplain , it's just small and embittered liberal whiner who would be glad to turn Russia into a liberal Sodom .

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WolfieInu In reply to Ferrabra [2014-04-05 16:59:27 +0000 UTC]

Fair enough - it's just that the symbols of the USSR are strongly associated with Communism in the minds of many people, which I think is why you're being misunderstood a bit

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Pandaren-Chaplain In reply to WolfieInu [2014-04-05 15:41:03 +0000 UTC]

Have you ever heard of a White elephant? Sacred animal of India, almost like a cow. Eats a lot but it is forbidden to made him working or kill for bones and meat.
When one indian rajah wanted to ruin his neighbour he sent to neighbours the most "precious" gift, a sacred white elephant. You can't reject it, 'cause its sacred. And he eats a lot. In the couple of years you'll be broke with that pet. So the indian nobles tried to get rid of that present asap by presenting it to others.
Russia took that crimean elephant by force, thats the shame. The worst thing that Ukrainians won't forget, nor forgive us, and that means showing up 40 million nation which will make a revanche, close to us. Plus the yanks and europs which make profit on our own ignorance and their blockade.

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