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Gargant In reply to ??? [2008-05-18 00:04:48 +0000 UTC]
Among all the things you claim to know, there's actually very few things you can actually confirm to know one hundred percent. All you know is information you've gained through your five senses. But all of your five senses can be deceived. So in a way, there are actually insanely little people can actually in all honesty really 'know' rather than believe. You can have it confirmed in such a safe manner it is practically one hundred percent, but at the same time there is a microscopic chance of it being false.
For you to actually know something you will have to confirm it in a matter that goes beyond what your senses can tell you, beyond all you've been taught in this world, beyond experience.
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FaustSnake In reply to Gargant [2008-05-18 00:13:04 +0000 UTC]
Sometimes you have to know to believe and sometimes you have to believe you know.
And even if all of your five senses are deceived for your entire life and it is never revealed to be false then that person still knows 100%.
Until it's proved to be false then a person knows it exactly the way it is no matter what the real answer is.
It's like asking someone if 1 + 1 = 2 and they say no, well, that person then knows it is wrong but when it is proved that what the person said is wrong then that person will continue to know that 1+1something else)
A false truth is still truth.
False knowledge is still knowledge.
It is not false to the person who knows it.
Take me for instance, I know there is a god in one way or another and it can't be proved and it never will so until someone proves me wrong and shows me it is false then I will continue to know that there is a god.
But despite knowing there is a god I don't believe in that god.
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Gargant In reply to FaustSnake [2008-05-18 00:25:22 +0000 UTC]
This is not how I see it. If you 'know' something and it's not after all, then it meant you believed it. You never knew it to begin with. This is what defines believing. It is not necessarily to hold the possibilities of other answers available. If a person is taught through their life that 1+1=4 then the answer is not suddenly four. It matters not how this is absolute to that person. Because knowing is to have the experience about how that specific detail exactly is, and for this to be taking place it must be the actual truth. If it was an illusion then they didn't know to begin with, they merely believed. They did not have enough knowledge or enough solid information to support this belief, and therefore believed rather than knew.
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FaustSnake In reply to Gargant [2008-05-18 01:47:54 +0000 UTC]
When looking at the world we live in I can't help but ask.
To know or believe, in the end, whats the difference?
To believe you have to know about it and to know about something you have to believe in it.
It's just two words that can't exist without the other being there.
Opposite sides of the same coin.
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Gargant In reply to FaustSnake [2008-05-18 02:21:24 +0000 UTC]
Indeed you are right. They are the same but opposites.
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