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Wanted to design a catfish, His name is Joe :'DSpecies belongs to =BakaMichi Because they are totally awesome species 8D
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go to the creators profile and find the catfish sheet and follow the rules and im sure your allowed to make one :3
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aii *squeak* thank u x'33 this catfish u made is so cutehh x'333
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It looks like an altered vaporion..It looks awesome..but it looks like the species creator wanted to get their obscurely coloured vaporion OC into the OC groups that don't allow those kinds of OCs....
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Why would I want to put a character into a group for vaporeons when she isn't a vaporeon?? plus, why would a vaporeon group accept a catfish character into their group over an oddly coloured vaporeon anyway?
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Jeesh, sorry sorry. I wasn't looking to start a fight, I just paid attention to the similarities and made a comment about it. No need to get your panties in a knot, it is a very cute and neat looking species.
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I'll get my panties in as many knots as I like U_____U
Just that you made assumptions about the reasons why I made my species without even knowing me, so yeah, I took offense to that.
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I'm sorry, no hard feelings, aye
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You do realise charactgers with cat+fish features probably were made before vaporeon were made to. Just because someone shares the same idea doesnt make them the same. this looks nothing like a vaporeon, the tails arent the same, the heads arent the same. Its like comparing a wolf to a fox, they both have pointy ears, fluffy tails, thin legs and fur and a canine snout. Still doesnt make them the same
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I think it's the general shapes they used that evoke the same feeling - the tail is SHAPED like the vaporeon's paddle even though it's a fin - the head is SHAPED like a vaporeon's head with the additional whiskers and the like. The side- and topfins are put in the same place, plus the wideness of the ears makes you think of vaporeon's neck-flap.
On closer inspection the design isn't identical, but I'd strongly suggest changing some things, for example, the tail fin (putting it vertically like a real fish's would make more sense, because for canines the left and right movement is stronger than up and down movement, and the same is probably true for cats as well.) and the ears (making them higher up/thinner/a different design would reduce the vaporeonness)
Also, the body shape itself could be used to evoke non-vaporeonness - vaporeon's design is very sleek and pronounces the canine/feline shapes that are going on for it. I can imagine this catfish creature I can easily imagine a more catfishy shape, with the body being blockier and slightly tapering towards the tail. My main thought: Make it more like a catfish and less like an aquatic cat.
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I can see where the similarities are, and yes it is a similar concept.
But I executed it in a very different way.
For people that actually pay attention they will go see that I have put a lot of thought into my species and it is not just a vaporeon look-a-like.
As for this part 'real fish's would make more sense' I actually have tried to do this, but I do not have the artistic skills to draw it that way x'D plus it makes more sense for it to face the way it is for how a catfish would swim.
The headfins/ears depends on the person drawing them, honestly, I draw them in different poses for each picture, sometimes they are spread out, sometimes they squish up, I imagine that they're flexable and not always going to remind people of vaporeon's 'neck-flap'
I actually based their design on a mixture of a sphynx cat and a blue catfish. Their barbels contain poison, they come from eggs, the males have barbels above their eyes so that they can fight for territory.
I have put effort into this design D:
you can read about it here if you're really interested; [link] here's what vaporeon actually looks like, in case you've forgotten; [link]
Overall though, I do agree that I COULD change the design to make it even more different.
But why should I change the design just because people can't get their head out of the pokemon fandom?
I love vaporeon, but really, I love it differently to my catfish characters, and see it as a very separate thing. Mashing them into the same category really means you're not appriciating the details of both designs.
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In fact, here - I made an example on how to make them more fish-like.
AGAIN, Im not saying you should now instantly make them like that, but how I'd do it:
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ok, that is really freaking cute(omfgiheartit) ;3; <3 but it's not the style I'm after, I want my catfish to have the anatomy of a cat, so that's what I chose to do.
I understand what you're saying, but there are still a lot of differences.
I have considered making different versions/species of the catfish design though, so that it could have.. idk how to explain it properly, but like how a chicken is a relative of a dinosaur even though it doesn't look exactly the same(Am I making sense??)
I actually threw away that idea due to the fact that people might say it's similar to the evolution idea in pokemon x'D
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Ah I see, a descendant.
I guess it could work, if the two species didn't have anything to do with each other and couldn't cross-breed at all.
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I actually think your idea is really creative :V Very believable!
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Lots of people have =BakaMichi 's Catfish, I even do and the Design has been very popular among Alot of people there are Even Fan groups for the Catfish
your Idea looks Good don't get me wrong But Bakamichi's Cat fish has been around for a while
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Why do you people insist on ganging up on me? It doesn't feel fair that Im one against three.
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I dont think they are ganging up on you, they are just giving you their opinion like you are, and they are just disagreeing with what you say thats all.
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Hm, I guess, but Im at a disadvantage if I have to talk to many people at the same time. :c
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Thats what happens when you post public xD one time I had a discussion with 15 people at the same time and they were all agains what I was saying, try to imagine the horror of keeping them all pleased and understanding to what i was trying to say, I had to explain the same thing 15 diffrent ways haha it was horrible
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Yeah, I can imagine that being horrifying. <
Oh well, thankfully this didn't turn out into a fest like that, I was actually fearful that people would pour in with their mouths frothing.
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You People.... I'm one of Bakamichi's Good friends and when I see people "Attacking" her Work/characters
And if you read I didnt say anything bad to you.
I even said your version of a Catfish looks good.
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Yeah, I know.
It's just irritating that when Im trying to converse this case, other people jump in to defend them. I get disoriented having to prove my case to more and more people, and it gives you a bad image that your friend can't defend themselves. Let them stand behind their words by themselves.
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XD Well it's a public forum, this is what happens haha
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Why did you jump into this in the first place if you didn't want to hold up you side.
I'm not having a go at you at all Umbbe.
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I want to hold my side up for the two who have something to do with this.
Im sorry, but arguing with the friends of the person Im talking to helps nothing, it doesn't really help if I explain my points to you, who has nothing to do with the design of the creature.
Thanks for the watch anyway, i guess.
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I did Read everything you wrote and I was just trying to add another point not trying to fight or anything along those lines
I think your a Nice person and you are more then Entitled to your own Opion (Act can't spell)
I watched you because your a good Artist and I am really not trying to fight with you, Im sorry if I came off wrong
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Why should you change it?
I think the reason is fairly apparent. Pokemon is widely spread, and you are going to get people saying the same thing again and again. Sure, you can keep it the way they are now, but then you are also not eligible to complain when people mistake your design for something else.
I can see that you have put effort into it, but I still suggest that you do take the pains to make it more unique. For me, the pains I take to try and make my designs less reminiscent of something else (not always succeeding) actually make me love my designs more - I pay attention to how they look and behave, and the same people who commented on it looking like vaporeon might even turn around and say "wow, this design is really creative!"
That is all.
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I dont really see any reason to having to make it more like a fish, because it is an aquatic cat. Vaporeon isnt even a cat, its a pokemon. This is like me saying everyone who mixes foxes, birds and dragons are dracolurvus creatures which isnt correct at all. You can take two animals and mix them in 100 diffrent ways if you are able to, that doesnt mean they are the same thing. Its like calling every long eared mouse out there for a pikachu, or if anyone were to draw a rabbit that was yellow, and call that a pikachu even if its not even a mouse
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Im not saying you are obligated to rethink the design. What Im saying is that you should take into consideration the culture around you.
A person who does a bipedal black mouse with a white face and large ears is going to get comments about mickey mouse no matter what.
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I wouldnt change other peoples design just because some people think it looks better a diffrent way, that is not up to me to do. Personally I think the design is cute, and some people might like a cat more than a fish. Theres a diffrence in making something similar and using the same idea. If someone drew the bipedal mouse in a style very similar and used the same proportions like mickey then yes, but if they did not then no i wouldnt really say its the same thing, and if you draw perfect circle ears on the mouse then it would be mickey, but if you drew large round more realistic ears it wouldnt be mickey no matter how similar the markings or colors were.
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Of course it wouldn't be mickey, but you have no right to complain if people say it reminds them of mickey. Like this reminds some people of vaporeon.
I guess that's my end point - If people see vaporeon in this design, I guess you have to just take it. It's hard to argue opinions, and eventually gives you a bad image if you keep arguing that it's nothing alike a vaporeon. (Of course, me continuing also might give me a bad image in the end, but who knows.)
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Oh ofcourse its ok to say it reminds you of it, but saying its a bad attempt of a vaporeon copy isnt the same as saying it looks like one xD
I even get people saying my stuff reminds them of things that arent even remotely the same.
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i'm not trying to be mean or anything but i thought it was a vaporeon before i saw the title.
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Its not mean to think it looks like something, thats what our human brains do xD it tries to make things look like things we know, thats why I get the weirdest comparing stuff when i create something weird, because we just have to do it
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Yeah, rereading that first post it was rude of them to say it.
Oh wells.
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Hurhur writing fail, I can imagine things twice it seems.
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thank you ;_;
I never know what to say when people say these kind of things but you worded that perfectly
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