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So Eclipse is ComingSEE MY LATEST JOURNAL ON THIS HERE:


I'd like to organize a proactive event to show DA the possible results of a permanent Eclipse change-over. Instead of deactivating your accounts for good, or indefinitely boycotting the site, I'd like to make a Statement of Silence for those Users against Eclipse. Starting May 1st, I will not be active on Deviantart. I will not submit new deviations, journals or even visit the site for 3 Days time. From 12:00AM CST May 1st to 12:00am May 4th. (3 days) I ask all other Users who wish to keep old Deviantart to join me in this statement of silence. 

Not Only Is Eclipse Difficult to Navigate, It is so close to Plagiarism it isnt funny. How they aren't in a Lawsuit with Artstation is beyond me!
Look at these site comparisons!

  <- DA Eclipse  Artstation-> 

Comparisons Courtesy of V0IDSPACER
Now I'd like to point out several people have told me that the similarities may be due to the fact artstation and DA are both now owned by Wix. 
I honestly would need to do some research to see if this is true or just speculation. 

Update  
ArtStation is NOT owned by Wix as some of our sleuthy commenters have discovered!

it is owned owned by a company called Ballistiq but is run as its own entity.

  www.artstation.com/about/compa…
"ArtStation is proud to be independently run. With no external investment, we grew our business from humble beginnings to one of the largest websites on the Internet. Being independent keeps us close and accountable to the community that we serve."
This was just confirmed to me by a current employee of theirs. ^^




Even DA's New Logo has Been Questioned as Plagiarism:
www.creativebloq.com/logo-desi…


Perhaps the abrupt halt and slow down of site traffic will show DA team members the devastating effects this could have on their audiences they cater to. They have failed to listen when we speak out... perhaps they will listen to The Sound Of Silence. 

#TheSoundOfSilenceMovement
Please Feel free to share this journal to get on board and spread the word. 
Some have said this is getting attention elsewhere as well so feel free to share to your instagrams, twitters and so on as well.
Feel free to Translate this to Other Languages as well!!

Lets get it out to as many eyes and artists as possible!


Also, please no negative commentary. This is about supporting one another. Not Being malicious to DA or other users

Set an Alarm, or Follow Me, I will Post a Reminder Journal On the Day Before!
The Sound of Silence - Core Refund Tickets?Hello there! Creator of #TheSoundofSilenceMovement here.a fellow DA User noted me :iconrandomchiz: with another intriguing idea.  That users send in support tickets asking for refunds on their Core. Now I know the majority of you will probably cut out core if you end up leaving indefinitely or even if you stay, since all them pretty perks are no longer available. And I highly doubt that DA will actually Refund anyone. However perhaps the flood of refund requests might make a statement as to the loss of their revenue in that regard. The double-edge of this blade however, is that they /may/ decide to refund us, and we will be cut off our cor...
Interesting idea brought to me ^

also someone has made a #thesoundofsilencemovement   Discord:
discord.gg/ZcWBxgk

THIS PETITION HAS REACHED 10k+ SIGNATURES!www.change.org/p/deviantart-te…

And here are several other petitions going around, if you all wish to sign any:
chng.it/SJThsrmPT2
chng.it/yY6pxYm67L
chng.it/rxrTBtYhb6
chng.it/T5SHByf2xw
chng.it/TVNpbtfHQZ

Some Supporters of my movement have been creating some wonderful art for us all!
Here is a Sound of Silence Icon!

Icon:



And a "We Can Fight" With a template so you can create this featuring your own character:
  
by the lovely Drakarra

BIG UPDATE
A Group Of LikeMinded Deviants With The Right Resources Are Working on a New DA Alternative Site!! 
Go read about their Project and SUPPORT THEM ANY WAY YOU CAN. 

A Fun Thing that tracks the activity taking place on DA:
world.deviantart.com/

An Eclipse Redesign Plugin that might make adjusting a little easier
www.deviantart.com/isi-daddy/j…

And for those of you wanting to give Eclipse your feedback (hah!) There is this:
www.eclipsefeedback.com/



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Comments: 4097

NajatTrippy In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 15:01:25 +0000 UTC]

You're crazy - your page is already aesthetic AF in your page ! T__T Way better than your normal version. I'm viewing your page in dark eclipse, and honestly, what a mood. Reminds me of starry nights

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Luzanami In reply to NajatTrippy [2020-04-30 15:24:05 +0000 UTC]

That's kind of you to say (starry night was the goal), but it requires to be up to date
Which is hard to do if I can't edit it properly. Besides, it was made by screenshoting my "old site" layout, which means I can't edit it once its gone

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OddLittleDesires In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 13:28:36 +0000 UTC]

worth a try ^^

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TheLycan228 In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 13:03:50 +0000 UTC]

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Yumgirl In reply to TheLycan228 [2020-04-30 13:37:21 +0000 UTC]

Yes

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TheLycan228 In reply to Yumgirl [2020-04-30 13:55:02 +0000 UTC]

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loveemails In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 13:01:35 +0000 UTC]

I don't think people are realizing that by being negative, they're not changing anything. This is reflecting past protests in history!

Atm, who cares if you're not in- the majority of the site isn't in- what matters is those who are trying to do something.

anyway, even reducing your use of DA will make a difference in their statistics!! don't instinctively visit the website when you're bored, you could just check a few times a day!!

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ScribblersVale In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 12:45:39 +0000 UTC]

Count me in o👍: 0 ⏩: 0

Cupfak3s80479 In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 12:38:01 +0000 UTC]

THIS WILL FAIL

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loveemails In reply to Cupfak3s80479 [2020-04-30 12:51:23 +0000 UTC]

and? its better a hopeful attempt than nothing. 

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Slangolator In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 12:09:57 +0000 UTC]

I have just one question: Is it necessary or optional to participate?

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wutshiii In reply to Slangolator [2020-04-30 12:24:38 +0000 UTC]

not necessary,is just a protest a lot of people want to participate in.

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Slangolator In reply to wutshiii [2020-04-30 12:27:35 +0000 UTC]

Well, I wish I could participate. But I have that need to visit DA everyday from time to time

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wutshiii In reply to Slangolator [2020-04-30 13:05:33 +0000 UTC]

yea I can understand that.

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Nenc-Dermawan-22 In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 11:59:09 +0000 UTC]

I'm not joining.

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Fansyboots In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 11:48:36 +0000 UTC]

This is going to be the biggest protest since SOPA.

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LittleMischievousFox In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 09:58:29 +0000 UTC]

"Change.org" Oof, I wish the best of you guys.

Doubt it'll work. But you can always move to Newgrounds or Artrise.

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Aliana-chan In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 09:28:07 +0000 UTC]

I'm in.

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excilion In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 07:26:10 +0000 UTC]

I dismissed a little bit to quickly today's notice about eclipse from the staff. What did they said about ?

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Clockwork-Animals In reply to excilion [2020-04-30 08:27:05 +0000 UTC]

welll it's just that they will permanently switch their website to eclipse and retire the old website on 20th may basically :V

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excilion In reply to Clockwork-Animals [2020-04-30 08:47:58 +0000 UTC]

the one from today which was called "the sound of silence".

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Clockwork-Animals In reply to excilion [2020-04-30 12:44:33 +0000 UTC]

oh yeah :0
I don't think deviantart said anything about it yet, but it's basically a statement from Howl where we don't go on deviantart for three days because of the backlash on eclipse, hoping that deviantart will notice this and do something about it, as far as I know?

Sugar--Zombie gonna tag you too qwq

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Sugar--Zombie In reply to excilion [2020-04-30 09:29:57 +0000 UTC]

I don't believe there was a notice from the staff today called that? I haven't had anything in my inbox

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Danitheangeldevil In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 07:06:39 +0000 UTC]

I am in.

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drowsydolls In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 06:51:53 +0000 UTC]

one more day, boys 

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Tiquitoc In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 05:04:30 +0000 UTC]

I'm in.

Also, I shared the link of this journal in my networks, let's spread the voice...

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Burning-Heart-Brony In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 05:02:23 +0000 UTC]

Voices in mass will be key in letting the developers know that we care about classic (and it works just fine). Silence, I fear, will not voice concerns allowing the plan to unfold anyway. Either way, it appears many do not approve of Eclipse.


Good luck!!! 🍒

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tsumefan2 In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 04:58:54 +0000 UTC]

um its not difficult to navigate

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VickyVal3ntine In reply to tsumefan2 [2020-04-30 10:45:45 +0000 UTC]

Have you experienced original deviantART?

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tsumefan2 In reply to VickyVal3ntine [2020-04-30 13:59:32 +0000 UTC]

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VickyVal3ntine In reply to tsumefan2 [2020-04-30 20:30:25 +0000 UTC]

You sure it wasn’t your internet?

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tsumefan2 In reply to VickyVal3ntine [2020-04-30 20:44:49 +0000 UTC]

no not really

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IHamby In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 04:44:50 +0000 UTC]

I submitted a ticket asking them not to make the switch, the response I got is probably a copy/paste answer the social media manager wrote up and told them to paste at us if we complain through tickets.

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WudaiBlackHole95 In reply to ??? [2020-04-30 03:27:43 +0000 UTC]

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GhostOfTheEmptyGrave In reply to ??? [2020-04-29 23:46:35 +0000 UTC]

I'm in. 

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RenWren In reply to ??? [2020-04-29 23:01:17 +0000 UTC]

I haven't used Eclipse enough to make a full judgment, but from what I have, it seems harder to use and look at. Home pages seem like a jumble to me in Eclipse, and I can't even find all of my notifications, even though that should be easy enough! If they want to redesign the site, whatever, but why do they have to obliterate the old version? They seem to be running both just fine now.
  

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Tinselfire In reply to ??? [2020-04-29 22:21:47 +0000 UTC]

I as well am concerned about the apparent lapse in judgement that is rolling out a site that is still incomplete and in many ways inferior to what it replaces. But I cannot promise getting behind the protest: I have made it a habit to comment on the Daily Deviations, and I do not want the awarded to miss out on coverage. Of course I am only one person, but feel it wouldn't be in the community spirit.

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Howl-n-Hart In reply to Tinselfire [2020-04-29 22:25:32 +0000 UTC]

I don't consider my movement a protest though many others have. I consider it more a statement to show the value of their client base and what happens when that goes away. And just a taste of that..many have asked me to do this for an entire month but I don't feel that's necessary since considering a month from now most of these people will be leaving indefinitely anyway.

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Tinselfire In reply to Howl-n-Hart [2020-04-29 22:47:01 +0000 UTC]

Ah, my apologies. Poor phrasing on my end.

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MikuEvalon In reply to ??? [2020-04-29 20:44:23 +0000 UTC]

Hello Howl-n-Hart  please read question 7 of this Almost everything About Eclipse and more  
it explains the whole artstation thing.

Voidspacer is wrong, they only provided that single picture and even added the same banner and same avatar to make them look similar,
however if artstation where to sue devianart, artstation would be sued by thousands of site that had the design before artstation.

please stop providing false info, it's ok to hate eclipse, but to use hate and false accusations to use people for your needs is wrong.

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LIQDs In reply to MikuEvalon [2020-04-30 10:00:49 +0000 UTC]

It is okay to "hate" your personality when you demean others for different opinions? 
I mean you come across very demeaning to others and rather rude with the way you put things across.

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Howl-n-Hart In reply to MikuEvalon [2020-04-29 21:57:39 +0000 UTC]

I do not hate eclipse, I just do not like it. And I take in every bit of info I find. If I discover a new lead to a new truth, I post it. I am not using anyone for anything, all information additional to my movement, were all things other deviants have requested that I add to the journal. If I find it pertinent, I add it in. Thanks for the information. Appreciate it, but it will not stop me from continuing my movement. ^^

Also, Artstation at first glance is black like eclipse, as can be seen simply by visiting their site:  www.artstation.com/

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MikuEvalon In reply to Howl-n-Hart [2020-04-29 22:03:55 +0000 UTC]

Regarding the artstation thing (I did not see it when I replied only after)

Just because both sites are "black" which they aren't even the same tone of black still doesn't mean they are stealing or copying
many websites even before artstation had the same color and even profile layout, if you check the info I provided in question 7
of the journal you can see the comparisons and info from other artstation users who agree they are very different.

Please read the question it answers everything regarding artstation in more detail.

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Howl-n-Hart In reply to MikuEvalon [2020-04-29 22:14:18 +0000 UTC]

The still seem pretty similar to me at first glance. And I do try to look into the sources behind the info I get. and verify them all the best I can.

    
their layouts and placements of their nav buttons are pretty similar, posted above and below the Banner image section. Yeah okay so the avatar is to the left on DA, but still same general area of the layout.  Large thumbnails showing content below said banner, different shades of black really? thats a pretty weak counterpoint my friend. Again I do appreciate the info but I agree to disagree. They are very similar in appearance, and I am happy to see any more art sites with the same layout just for comparison if you have any to add. Only art sites I am aware of are Patreon, Ko-fi, and Furaffinity but they dont look or feel the same the way these two do. 

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MikuEvalon In reply to Howl-n-Hart [2020-04-29 22:18:05 +0000 UTC]

When it comes to copyright which is more important than what we find similar
both sites are different, you can't file a lawsuit without it having very clear similarities
"this means tones, placement(being in the same place), font, etc"

In the pics you showed me it makes it look very different, anyone with common sense can see it.

Again you are trying to find things that aren't there, they aren't stealing and copying sties can have a similar aesthetic
don't like it, leave. 

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Howl-n-Hart In reply to MikuEvalon [2020-04-29 22:20:45 +0000 UTC]

I'm not saying they Will file a lawsuit
Lol

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MikuEvalon In reply to Howl-n-Hart [2020-04-29 22:27:08 +0000 UTC]

It is so close to Plagiarism it isnt funny. How they aren't in a Lawsuit with Artstation is beyond me!
Look at these site comparisons!

Do you read what you write? this is from your own journal, and accusing a site of committing plagiarisms is a serious thing.

As I have stated this is a new "style" websites are using (even tho the style is quite old) many websites before artstation had it,
it's just artstation became more popular than the other sites. If you to think they are stealing than you should look at toyhouse
which also has a similar thing to artstation when it comes to aesthetic.

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VickyVal3ntine In reply to MikuEvalon [2020-04-30 10:48:23 +0000 UTC]

Toyhouse isn’t really that similar though... that’s like saying because it has folders it’s like art station? Lol it’s not a thing similar in aesthetics or anything at all in my opinion :/

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MikuEvalon In reply to VickyVal3ntine [2020-05-01 00:55:23 +0000 UTC]

that was the point, the person was saying that "tone of black" and "order" didn't matter and DA was still copying
artstation, I gave toyhouse as an example, sine if you look at how the search search page in artstation looks
it has a similar "color" and similar "style" of showing pics according to how the person is comparing DA and artstation.

The person is trying to find similarities between artstation and DA eclipse just cause they hate eclipse and wants to fuel
protesters. 

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VickyVal3ntine In reply to MikuEvalon [2020-05-01 01:24:14 +0000 UTC]

They're very similar if you take a look at the page once. 

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