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Does not a Shepard rejoice when a lost sheep returns?How then can you ask if you are forgiven?
I love you, my child. It is good that you have come home.
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Scars-On-Broadway In reply to ??? [2012-08-19 04:23:09 +0000 UTC]
AAAAANNNNNNNDDDDD que the butt hurt. Nice picture, but I hate how all these people are going to insult it because it has Jesus in it. I myself (being an atheist) get really annoyed when they hate for no reason. You're not bothering me so why bother you kind of thing, but god forbid anyone disagree with anyone else. ALL christians are morons and all atheists are smart because we are and all that garbage. Sorry i'm ranting now -_-'
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joelashimself In reply to Scars-On-Broadway [2012-08-19 12:05:32 +0000 UTC]
Well this is certainly refreshing.
I've got a number of atheist friends and we get along just fine.
Weather a person be of faith or not, some people are just perpetually offended and looking for an excuse to show it.
Don't worry though. The overwhelming portion of response has been very positive. Happy to share the world with you, my friend.
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Scars-On-Broadway In reply to joelashimself [2012-08-19 23:43:39 +0000 UTC]
Honestly I wish I could say the same was true for me. As much as I would love to say you're all morons, many Christians I deal with on a daily basis are hateful, I can't. Somehow whenever I'm about to just give up I come across someone like you who manages to restore some my faith in humanity.
And I'm glad. People like to express their religious views while saying you can't explain yours. It makes my brain hurt...
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Botchos In reply to Scars-On-Broadway [2013-08-21 22:55:14 +0000 UTC]
I don't blame you for being atheist. I think most Atheists have a testimony of the "Falling away" that Paul speaks of in 2 Thessalonians 2:2-3 "That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us (The apostles), as that the day of Christ (His second coming) is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition" [Parenthetical annotations mine].
There was a loss of actual priesthood authority. It is believed that this authority was passed by Paul to Barnabas (I think that was his name) when Paul was in Rome. However, if you look at the fruits of the Western Church (what became the Catholic church after the counsel of Nicaea), you begin to see that this cannot be the case. I believe a faction of this authority survived for a time in the Eastern Churches but was also lost overtime. There truly was a falling away and dark ages ensued. If you look at some of the medieval philosophies that arose out of Byzantium, you see an almost absurd view of who and what God is via so-called negative theology. "The only way to know God is to not know God. You must disavow your you-ness." And so forth. To an extent, this absurdity has continued in various forms to this day.
We now see many churches preaching to get gain rather than serving the flock. I mean, the purpose of a congregation is merely to fellowship and serve those within and in the community. It's a sort of gathering of people who want to do good. I think many Christians have forgotten this. Plus, it doesn't help that there are strong anti-religious messages in the media.
Yes, many of us do take strong stances against homosexual marriage and abortion, but only because we believe that God places immense importance on the creation of life and on raising children in a home with a mother an father. It is vastly important to us and reaches deep into our hearts.
We like atheists. It's always fun to see the light gleaming in their eyes when the Spirit of the Lord testifies to their minds that what they are hearing is true, even if current Scientific methods are not yet advanced enough to explain everything. I don't beleive the Earth is 6,000 years old; I beleive the Earth is 4.5 billion years old. I believe the universe is about 13 billion years old. I believe the creation story is a mythological explanation for the creation of earth and should not trump scientific understanding. I believe that extraterrestrial life exists (and I believed that even before NASA started hinting at it recently). I believe in evolution but I also believe it is different than the Darwinian model: I believe it is cyclical (it's a new theory on the fringes, I'll leave it at that).
Please don't feel that Christians hate you or want to bash you. Many of them have a tribal mentality, almost like a sports team. But you shouldn't allow yourself to be vitriolic back towards them (al-a Bill Maher). We can get along even if we don't see eye to eye.
Before I end this dissertation, I'd like to offer to tell you more about that priesthood authority situation because the picture is no longer bleak: It's here on the earth again. Have a nice day.
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Scars-On-Broadway In reply to Botchos [2013-09-07 02:29:55 +0000 UTC]
Alright I'm going to be honest here. I skimmed most of that. In the beginning I'm not entirely sure what your trying to say. I really don't care.
Β You say "Yes, many of us do take strong stances against homosexual marriage and abortion, but only because we believe that God places immense importance on the creation of life and on raising children in a home with a mother an father. It is vastly important to us and reaches deep into our hearts."Β
That's where my concern lies. How many children have you adopted? Children that gay couples would happily raise with more love than many mothers and fathers I see today. Β StatisticallyΒ gay couples are MORE likely to adopt a special needs child than anyone else. Are you seriously claiming that it is better for children to be brought up as wards of the state? That one or no parents are better than two loving parents of the same gender?Β
And that's ASSUMING they want a child. I don't. My Aunt and Uncle have been married +20 years yet they have no kids. Should they not be married? What about people who are infertile? Should they be banned?Β
Β Marriage had NOTHING to do with the church until the middle ages and then the church was only informed of the marriage because they were the record keepers.
As for the abortion isn't each fetus a person? Doesn't god have a plan for each person? What if abortion IS his plan? You have no idea what his plan is and to claim that you do is putting yourself on the same level as god. Claiming to speak for him.
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Karingan In reply to ??? [2012-08-18 21:07:51 +0000 UTC]
While I don't believe that anyone from the pony universe could believe in Christ, I like the picture somewhat. Of course there is the regular problems such as having a "white" when it's commonly agreed that if he existed, he would have been dark in tone. Other than that, it's ok. I still don't think that you can just mix Jesus with anything. The worlds most widely followed imaginary friend meets ponies.
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joelashimself In reply to Karingan [2012-08-19 01:38:35 +0000 UTC]
Believe it bro. There is quite the expansive Christian Brony community.
Also being concerned with "race" speaks much more about you than it does about the piece.
If you'd ever met someone of Jewish ancestry (Like myself) I think you'd notice how accurately the above drawing portrays us Israeli decedents.
...Always with the racism with you anti christian folks, honestly.
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Karingan In reply to joelashimself [2012-08-19 03:17:28 +0000 UTC]
Anti-theist, thank you very much.
I don't doubt that, since "1.2 million Christians 'can't be wrong'" apparently.
I just like depictions of false-deities to be at least historically accurate, is that such a bad thing?
And just because you might be white or olive-toned like me, doesn't mean your descendants were. Evolution does exist, you know.
You probably have way more European than you're willing to admit.
Regardless, I never said this was a horrible picture that needed to be removed. I was stating my own criticism about it, and that did not need a reply. I wasn't attacking you as much as musing. There was no need to become defensive. It is a very nice piece.
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joelashimself In reply to Karingan [2012-08-19 11:58:10 +0000 UTC]
It's more than skin tone my friend, it's a culture and a heritage.
Also it's more like 2.1 billion Christians world wide.
Glad you like the drawing.
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Karingan In reply to joelashimself [2012-08-19 18:18:28 +0000 UTC]
I was making reference to the number of actual Christians, not people who are kinda Christian but not. I know a lot of those. Atheism is on the rise, anyone can see that.
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Botchos In reply to Karingan [2013-08-21 22:58:20 +0000 UTC]
Atheism is on the rise because the media is demonizing Christians in the Western world.
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joelashimself In reply to Karingan [2012-08-20 02:27:11 +0000 UTC]
So's murder.
Not saying the two are related of course, simply pointing out that not all increases in specific behavior are good things.
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JimRaynorHyperion In reply to ??? [2012-08-18 20:09:05 +0000 UTC]
nice picture. i don't believe in the lord or his son(plz don't be "those" ppl who will say i'm going to hell because i'm not a believer) but this pic touch my heart. not because it has "him" in it but because others will find a message within the pic and maybe make them happy. anyway, good job sir!
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Botchos In reply to JimRaynorHyperion [2013-08-21 23:01:25 +0000 UTC]
"When saw we thee an-hungered, or athirst, or naked, or visited thee in prison? Inasmuch as ye have done it unto the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."
Just be a good person and you'll be fine. Don't worry, I feel strongly that bronies aren't in bad shape. You won't go to hell.
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joelashimself In reply to JimRaynorHyperion [2012-08-19 01:47:35 +0000 UTC]
It's okay Jim.
You don't have to be a Christian to earn a Christian's respect. Just be a good man. That's all that's asked from any man.
Also, I'm glad you like the scribble!
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JimRaynorHyperion In reply to EllaTheLama [2012-08-18 20:17:06 +0000 UTC]
you miss the point here. so what if magic(luna) is mix(hugging) with him in this pic? in fact, isn't higher power magic it self? divine power and magic are equals i believe. anyway, i was trying to say is, jesus can forgive anyone. this includes other life forms. is this picture hurting anyone? like REALLY hurting one? is this making ppl kill each other for? no, its bring ppl together, just like jesus would wanted. don't let ya faith blind you too much or you will forget what jesus died for.
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EllaTheLama In reply to JimRaynorHyperion [2012-08-19 00:39:40 +0000 UTC]
jesus died for sinners not for satin!
i love luna. Jesus is my king BUT THEY DONT MIX
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JimRaynorHyperion In reply to EllaTheLama [2012-08-19 01:11:40 +0000 UTC]
magic isn't satin or devil stuff. besides, magic isn't even real. witchwraft isn't evil unless someone is using it for evil ways. anyway, they do mix. so what if she use magic? that shouldn't destroy this picture. its luna getting forgiving by the lord son.
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EllaTheLama In reply to JimRaynorHyperion [2012-08-19 14:09:00 +0000 UTC]
wow ur just............. wow
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JimRaynorHyperion In reply to EllaTheLama [2012-08-19 15:04:39 +0000 UTC]
also,magic didn't come from the "devil" as so many will say. magic was a culture thing until new ppl saw witchcraft and believe witchcrafters met the "devil" because the chants and all that. magic is made up from all around us. its called mana. so others, its life its self. how life energy evil? like i said before, if misused, then yes, its evil but ppl with power will always misuse it. just like you ppl. remember the witch burnings? the templars? even now, your misusing your power to spam this person art. if you didn't notice, its bringing ppl together than just hate. again, stop being blinded by your ways and learn that pictures like these aren't "evil" or wrong.
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EllaTheLama In reply to ??? [2012-08-18 15:32:53 +0000 UTC]
MIXING THE WONDERFUL JESUS WITH MAGIC SIR YOU HAVE REAACHED A NEW LOW DELETE THIS PIC!!!!!!
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Botchos In reply to EllaTheLama [2013-08-21 23:03:18 +0000 UTC]
You actually have that much of a problem with this? Wow...
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EllaTheLama In reply to Botchos [2013-10-18 01:45:51 +0000 UTC]
Yes Sir,Im A Kjvo Bible Believeing Christian And I KNOW That THIS IS WRONG!
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joelashimself In reply to EllaTheLama [2012-08-19 01:32:30 +0000 UTC]
Settle down.
The intent is to portray the mercy of God and the forgiveness of us sinful folk.
You might consider being less reactionary in the future. Responses like yours tend to make the rest of us look rather ridiculous.
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joelashimself In reply to Austins-Aler123 [2012-08-19 01:47:52 +0000 UTC]
Darn straight.
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linkshade In reply to ??? [2012-08-18 14:52:52 +0000 UTC]
to day is going to be a good day cause this made my day
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linkshade In reply to joelashimself [2012-08-19 03:21:20 +0000 UTC]
AND today ended up being a great day
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joelashimself In reply to linkshade [2012-08-19 11:59:01 +0000 UTC]
The glad has been doubled!
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DeathLightning21 In reply to ??? [2012-08-18 13:57:57 +0000 UTC]
I believe in Santa Christ!....wait....wrong thing
*ahem* I believe in Luna Christ!
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StardustLotus In reply to ??? [2012-08-17 21:31:00 +0000 UTC]
I'm not that into religion much, but I must say, that this piece touched my heart.
Really a very nice work, I love it to bits...
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joelashimself In reply to StardustLotus [2012-08-17 21:43:33 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad. Thanks for the nice words!
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BB-K In reply to ??? [2012-08-17 17:34:54 +0000 UTC]
Aww, it's so surprising. Returning from evil and the Lord forgives.
That's a cute sight to see.
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CrossoverGamer In reply to ??? [2012-08-17 17:17:40 +0000 UTC]
luna is awesome an one of my favorites an its nice to see that our creator in the same pic
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joelashimself In reply to CrossoverGamer [2012-08-17 17:24:37 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad you like it!
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CrossoverGamer In reply to joelashimself [2012-08-17 17:45:07 +0000 UTC]
keep up the good work
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black0193 In reply to ??? [2012-08-17 17:01:19 +0000 UTC]
Jesus and Luna? Now I truly have seen everything. Beautiful artwork
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Piojote-EditoAmanita In reply to ??? [2012-08-17 16:53:49 +0000 UTC]
You make a beautiful work here. But the principal thriumph in your drawing is the feeling of compasion. I think every man have our personal positions about religion but most trascendental is the give a hand to a desperately soul.
Congratulations man
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joelashimself In reply to Piojote-EditoAmanita [2012-08-17 16:57:16 +0000 UTC]
You nailed it bro.
Good vision.
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EllaTheLama In reply to joelashimself [2012-08-18 15:33:42 +0000 UTC]
MIXING THE WONDERFUL JESUS WITH MAGIC SIR YOU HAVE REAACHED A NEW LOW DELETE THIS PIC!!!!!!
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ZumbaZyn In reply to ??? [2012-08-17 16:37:50 +0000 UTC]
This is amazing in concept. I applaud a Christian brony when I see one
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joelashimself In reply to ZumbaZyn [2012-08-17 16:56:29 +0000 UTC]
Back too ya' brother.
/)*(\
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ZumbaZyn In reply to joelashimself [2012-08-17 17:02:46 +0000 UTC]
*sister, yo!
Lunaisbestpony
JesusisbestJesus
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EllaTheLama In reply to ZumbaZyn [2012-08-18 15:33:36 +0000 UTC]
MIXING THE WONDERFUL JESUS WITH MAGIC SIR YOU HAVE REAACHED A NEW LOW DELETE THIS PIC!!!!!!
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ZumbaZyn In reply to EllaTheLama [2012-08-18 15:50:15 +0000 UTC]
1. Why are you replying to a comment? 2. D'ya really think you'll be heeded just for using caps lock and putting one too many A's and exclamation marks? 3. Though I understand your viewpoint from a secular and religious point, confronting the artist in this manner is unwise. Plus... I just saw your comment. Do you REALLY want ME, a completely unrelated person, involved too?
Next time, send the artist a polite private message calmly explaining your viewpoint, and that artist will likely receive your request better. If you confront them head-on in public comments like this, you are doomed to be trolled.
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