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There's a common misconception that evolution states that we came directly from monkeys. This is false. Evolution states that we share a common ancestry with them.Stamp base by --> [link]
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Kotego In reply to ??? [2012-07-13 04:41:37 +0000 UTC]
Not up for it. They'll probably use retarded arguments anyway.
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Just2Awesome In reply to Kotego [2012-07-13 05:00:29 +0000 UTC]
lol. You're probably right. :/
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Kotego In reply to Just2Awesome [2012-07-13 13:18:46 +0000 UTC]
It's to be expected of people who don't know what they're talking about.
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Otterlore In reply to ??? [2012-02-02 12:14:00 +0000 UTC]
FUCKING FINALLY.
I wanted to make this stamp SO BAD after I saw all of the 'My ancestors aren't MONKEYS' stamps on dA. I mean, we all do come from the same place but if you're talking about in terms of closeness, apes are still a lot closer than monkeys.
Although, there's a tribe down somewhere in South America that used to be fairly large, and they saw monkeys as their ancestors- it was kind of part of their religion. They wouldn't kill or eat the monkeys because they saw how their hands and human hands looked alike. Sadly, because of more modern people's interference, the tribal grounds were split up and now that particular tribe is only starting to come back. There was a woman I remember they interviewed who was old, somewhere in her nineties, and she remembers their kind of monkey religion, and now the tribe eats the monkeys, which is upsetting to her because of their original beliefs.
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Kotego In reply to Otterlore [2012-02-02 12:40:16 +0000 UTC]
Evolution-deniers rarely ever even learn what Evolution is really about. They just assume some stupid shit and then think that Creationism makes more sense.
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Otterlore In reply to Kotego [2012-02-02 21:51:39 +0000 UTC]
Creationism certainly is easier, but not everything in life is easy.
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Kotego In reply to Otterlore [2012-02-02 21:58:12 +0000 UTC]
It's simple-minded and idiotic, and unfortunately there are so many people that can't seem to think beyond that.
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Otterlore In reply to Kotego [2012-02-03 21:54:17 +0000 UTC]
Well... It's how people grow up, and it's hard changing yourself. And the prospect of no afterlife, just dying and... dying, is pretty... sad.
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Kotego In reply to Otterlore [2012-02-03 21:58:52 +0000 UTC]
Honestly I have no qualm with dying. The only thing I fear is what my impression will be that will be left after I'm gone.
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i-stamp In reply to ??? [2011-10-04 11:34:13 +0000 UTC]
A fun little nugget of wisdom, basal primates are often referred to as 'monkeys,' which would mean that we both evolved from monkeys (extinct basal primates) and share a common ancestry with monkeys (exant modern primates).
There's a big hub-bub right now in evolutionary biology, specifically phylogenetics and taxonomy, which is pushing for the term 'monkey' to also be extended to all apes (including humans) as well. You can hear about it here . It's a fascinating discussion.
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QueenIntrovert In reply to ??? [2011-02-24 02:31:30 +0000 UTC]
I totally agree! If we evolved from monkeys, why are they still here?
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WingDiamond In reply to QueenIntrovert [2013-06-02 16:18:58 +0000 UTC]
Simple Answer-
We let them live!
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Otterlore In reply to QueenIntrovert [2012-02-02 12:14:44 +0000 UTC]
That's like saying "If we evolved from apes, why are apes still here?"
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darkninjaeeveefire In reply to QueenIntrovert [2011-08-02 17:53:03 +0000 UTC]
it never said that we evolved from monkeys. it says we have a common ancestor like how a pug and golden retriever have the common ancestor the wolf. It simply states that complex organisms started simple ( you were once a single celled egg and now look at you.)
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SonicfanX-TREME In reply to ??? [2011-02-23 04:20:11 +0000 UTC]
If we share the same ancestry with monkeys, then how come we're so STOOP-ED!?
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Kotego In reply to SonicfanX-TREME [2011-02-24 01:17:36 +0000 UTC]
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SonicfanX-TREME In reply to Kotego [2011-02-24 01:41:33 +0000 UTC]
I'm going to blow up every bakery shop I see! But after I eat some croissants.
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SonicfanX-TREME In reply to Kotego [2011-02-24 04:04:26 +0000 UTC]
Its not blasphemy. I AM A MAN!!!
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famartist In reply to ??? [2011-02-23 02:35:07 +0000 UTC]
Oh yeah?
Then why are monkeys dumb and we aren't?
religion - 1
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Rainbow-Farts In reply to famartist [2011-11-03 02:01:10 +0000 UTC]
Because they actually aren't dumb?
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Ep1cShad0w In reply to famartist [2011-04-28 15:41:48 +0000 UTC]
JUST TO BE CLEAR I AM NOT DOING THIS TO START A FLAME WAR. I AM SIMPLY TRYING TO CLEAR UP SOME MISSCONCEPTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT EVOLUTION!.)You clearly don't know how evolution works if thatβs your counter argument. But at the same time I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are smart, tolerant and open minded enough to give this a chance.(sorry if that sounded blunt but from my point of view that is the scenario) I'll try to explain the best I can.
First some notes (THI IS IMPORTANT):
. A theory is NOT a guess it is an educated collective analysis of facts that can be used to explain certain events like gravity
. Being a theory does NOT make something false. Gravity is a theory feel free to test it
. The theory of evolution does NOT say that there is no god
. Evolution is determined through natural selection NOT RANDOM CHANCE
. NOWGHERE in the bible (or any other religious document) does it say that god does not allow his creation to change
. At the same time having a design that can change to suit its environment is a lot more intelligent than one that dies off because it can't keep up with the change around it
Having two species with common ancestors does not mean they will share all the same traits if that were true Pugs and Dobermans would look exactly the same.
Theory of Evolution and Human Evolution:
When a species becomes separated in to two groups the two groups and are presented with two separate environments they (over time) develop different traits in order to survive in the environment. For example when you look at the skin tones of humans it changes through each region. The areas with more heat produce humans with darker skin tones so they are less vulnerable to the radiation given off by the sun, therefore the chance of them getting skin cancer decreases.
Theory of Human/Monkey Evolution (separate theory):
The theory of Humans and monkeys having the same ancestors IS NOT the theory of evolution. It is a separate theory (based on what we know about evolution) that was created to explain why humans and other simians share so many traits. Basically what some people believe happened is that at some point a species of protosimians (Human/Monkey ancestors) got separated. The monkey line was provided with an environment that required little change (most likely because food was plentiful and was easy to get this region is assumed to be a forest) and therefore only adapted to climb trees better. Humans on the other hand may have ended up in an environment that had little food that was harder to accesses (assumed to be fields) and we became more adapt to walking and running on flat ground. Due to the amount of heat we generate while running to catch prey we also lost most of our hair. We also became more social and started to learn. Monkeys and Dogs today are also showing signs of becoming smarter due to the amount of time they spend with humans.
If you have made it this far I congratulate you on being tolerant with me. Anyway I hoped this help you understand evolution a little more. Have a nice day.
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famartist In reply to Ep1cShad0w [2011-04-28 18:36:04 +0000 UTC]
I am aware of the contentions, but there are holes in evolution. There has been controversy to show that evolution may not be as many scientists believe. There have been many times in which evidence was brought forward to bolster evolution that have turned out to be fraudulent. They claimed to find the tooth of a primitive man in one instance and it turned out to just be the tooth of a pig, there are numerous examples like that.
Well, what a person believes about how human beings were created shapes what they believe about human beings. If we believe that human beings were created out of love by a loving creator, that has given each of us a material body and a soul, we are then more likely to treat other people with respect and dignity.
It may not be just a guess but it's still only a theory because it is not fact. Gravity is there because I can drop something and see it fall, but, I don't see animals turning into different animals, it would take more faith for me to believe in that. God created us, not as goop but in his image. How do you explain where this goop came from? Did it come out of nothing?
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Otterlore In reply to famartist [2012-02-02 12:19:47 +0000 UTC]
I find that kind of sad.
So, you say that the only way to be a good person is to believe you were created by a giant man up in the sky, with love? So it's impossible to be a good person?
You know what I find sad? Christians' lack of faith in humanity. That people will love and be good because it's the right thing, not because a giant man is threatening us from above.
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Ep1cShad0w In reply to famartist [2011-04-28 21:04:47 +0000 UTC]
Sure you see animals turn into differant animals:
.Horse + Donkey = Mule
.The domestication of dogs turning in to the many breeds we see today. << This is solid evedance. We have records.
Evolution doesn't change somthing into a completly different species over night.XD Whoever told you that knows nothing about how evolution works.
Also the theory of evolution says nothing about the origin of life or the universe. Your thinking of Abiogenesis and Physicle Cosmology. That's where the goo thing comes from...
We know gravity is there but we only have theorys on how it works none the less only having a theory doesn't make it false.
It's perfectly reasonable that god could have created humans as one thing and they changed frome there. The christian god specificly is said to be able to do anything,this includes taking differant forms (like human for example which he did while simotaniusly taking the form of a deity and the holy spirit) This being said he technicaly doesn't have a definite physicl form to be based on. However I believe when the Bible said we were made in his image it meant spiritual image not physicle. The problem with the english bible is that it went through a translation some things that appear abscure in the english translation apear that way because our language doesn't have words to describe things that the hebrew language did. Because of this a lot of stuff is taken to literaly like the image thing. I'd say if you wan't to know what the Bible is talking about it would be best to read the origional text in hebrew because it would most likly make clearer sense. This is probably why there was a law not to "obscure the word of the lord"
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famartist In reply to Ep1cShad0w [2011-04-28 22:17:39 +0000 UTC]
So you believe a soup made us into fishes that became monkeys then humans? xD I'd say you are pretty gullible to believe that. Each person is distinct from the other in a beautiful created way. Show me the evidence, there isn't any. The philosophy behind evolutionists, the darwinian ideologies grown out of evolution, it promotes racism and that humans are animals, we find the societies that are loving, caring and well funcitioning are the ones that have a great respect for others because they recognize that humans are created individualy and distinct from one another. Darwin ideas lead to destructive things like eugenesis, euthenasia, infantacide, etc.
"We know gravity is there but we only have theorys on how it works none the less only having a theory doesn't make it false."
Studying how it works will show us how he works but you won't understand the WHY it works, it's God's creation.
"It's perfectly reasonable that god could have created humans as one thing and they changed frome there."
I'm not convinced by your beliefs, I don't think dehumanizing us and saying we are nothing but monkeys does any good and it's not reasonable because God did not make us as simple creatures, he made us in his image. Why is it so important everyone believe what you believe? If we came from slim to intricate human bodies then there would have to be overwhelming tons of material evidence and there is not evidence. Why do you think that it's bad to believe that people are created with a distinctness by a creator?
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Ep1cShad0w In reply to famartist [2011-04-28 23:10:39 +0000 UTC]
"So you believe a soup made us into fishes that became monkeys then humans?" I never said that why do you insist on putting words into my mouth? On the note of gullibillity I'm trying to keep this civel don't go throwing around accusations. There is plenty of evidance to support a concept as simple as breeding and genetic diversity. If god created every single baby there would be no point in reproduction and the stork story we were told as kids would be true.
How does it support racism? give me an exaple when you say somthing like that without an example it's just words.
Things humans share with animals:
Digestive systom
Circulatory Systom
Nervous systom
We share more in commen with animales than anything else the only real differance is soul intelegance and the ability to concieve and comprehend beyond all others. Besides animal is a catagory of living organism not a thing. First of all darwin is not the only person who researches evolution why do people always point to him. Secondly he is a hypocrit many of the things he says do not match up for an athiest.
Also I myself never said we were monkeys that theory is up for debate in a different conversation. In fact that theory itself says we are seperat from monkeys. What I did say is that humans can change just like how dogs can change and still be dogs.
For the record I do beleive in creation I just believe the creation can change and don't see why evolution is so hard to grasp for everyone. Thats why I started this because I could see that you didn't understand it.
Also you can go ahead and beleive what you want I'm not stopping you. But when you bring your beliefs on the internet they become open subject for debate I came here knowing and expecting this if you didn't want me to share my veiws you should have said so.
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famartist In reply to Ep1cShad0w [2011-04-29 23:20:33 +0000 UTC]
That's a misinterpretation, I'm not saying a baby is spawned by birds or that god waves a magic wand, simply that god creates us lovingly and individually in the realm of reproduction.
It encourages racism because the ideas promoted by a darwinian belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others to survive. As opposed to my belief that God made us equal and with individual characteristics and talents.
Darwin is the one that started the belief of evolution, I don't know what you mean by matching up, and why did atheism come up if you don't believe in athesim, why is it so important to force on people, God loves you but when you spread the message that people are animals and there is no god it is a dangerous thing and a society like that would not be one that I would want to be part of.
Yes dogs can change and still be dogs, but they don't turn into something else.
No, I DO in fact understand it and your ad hominen attacking doesn't prove your beliefs, why is it so important that I believe like you?
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Cooldude104 In reply to ??? [2011-02-23 02:27:03 +0000 UTC]
Indeed. it claims that we evolved from apes. not monkeys. simians like the chimp are closest to human intelligence. also. we came from a line of bacteria if we were to go the beginning.
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Boverisuchus In reply to Cooldude104 [2012-01-25 02:07:58 +0000 UTC]
I"M A FEYSH! WE"RE ALL FEYSH!
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Cooldude104 In reply to Boverisuchus [2012-01-25 02:09:15 +0000 UTC]
Technically speaking yes. and also the Monkey thing isn't too far off. It's far down the line though.
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Cooldude104 In reply to Kotego [2011-02-23 02:32:21 +0000 UTC]
I like it when I can have an intelligent conversation with someone. I know my facts.
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Old-PaleoClipper In reply to Cooldude104 [2011-02-23 03:17:41 +0000 UTC]
my ancestor was a fish.
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Cooldude104 In reply to Old-PaleoClipper [2011-02-23 20:56:13 +0000 UTC]
1 out of 100 people have ribs on their neck, showing that we once had ribs on our neck leading to the proof that at one point we weren't warm blooded creatures like we are now.
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Old-PaleoClipper In reply to Cooldude104 [2011-02-24 16:07:06 +0000 UTC]
now that i did not know. i need to keep that in mind; thank you!
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Cooldude104 In reply to Old-PaleoClipper [2011-02-24 20:29:41 +0000 UTC]
not a problem. but it's usually only one or two ribs.
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Kotego In reply to Cooldude104 [2011-02-23 02:35:12 +0000 UTC]
So true. Though it's a little sad knowing how many people think otherwise.
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Cooldude104 In reply to Kotego [2011-02-23 02:42:30 +0000 UTC]
especially in the USA. where you live.
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Kotego In reply to Cooldude104 [2011-02-23 02:48:26 +0000 UTC]
I know *sigh* One of the many things that shames the intelligent people over here
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Cooldude104 In reply to Kotego [2011-02-23 11:30:04 +0000 UTC]
What? the sentence isn't finished.
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Kotego In reply to Cooldude104 [2011-02-24 01:18:31 +0000 UTC]
What else am I supposed to say?
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