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Kuvshinov-Ilya — Ghost in the Shell Teaser Visual
Published: 2020-01-27 09:34:59 +0000 UTC; Views: 73910; Favourites: 2735; Downloads: 540
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A teaser visual I’ve done for the new Ghost in the Shell: SAC_2045 animated series on which I am working as character designer (and couple of other roles I can’t talk about yet haha)!✨New series directed by an awesome Kenji Kamiyama and Shinji Aramaki will be released on Netflix worldwide in April, so please look forward to it! 🎶
You can also check out new and long teaser trailer here:
youtu.be/O6pA7Dw_iCw
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What the hell is with all these child Motokos? She doesn't look old enough to drink let alone head an elite special force squad. Is the studio trying to gain the pedophile audience? Or are they simply talking down to the fans?
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The most recent animated film, the one set before Major Kusanagi joins Section9, her body was more slender in that one too, but definitely shaped as an adult.
This new one, the body is petite adult, but the lack of detail in the face, makes the shell look younger then the character is.
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You know people with smaller bodies exist that arent children? Maybe open your mind a bit.
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Yeah, manlets and womanlets. Which Motoko is not supposed to be.
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It's really not a big deal. As I said, just go back and enjoy the previous incarnations of her, she's right there.
//shrugs
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Well my comments are even less big of a deal.
I appreciate your recommendation, but it doesn't strike me as a good idea to "just" go back and enjoy the old stuff. As I outlined, I see no reason to stop bashing the new stuff altogether, and plenty of reasons to keep doing it.
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It's an artificial body so the look is the worst hint when caring about her 'age'.
Ever thought about the possibility that Motoko is (or was) a man?
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Ever read the source material? Cause if you did you'd know that not only is she definitely a woman, she's also supposed to look her age.
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Yeah, yeah. I heard this argument before when the live action movie came out (and see how that turned out). It isn't about what she could be, but what she is in the manga, an adult patriotic Japanese woman with emphasis on adult.
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Pls.. read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote: This was an thought-provoking impulse, I never said that it IS the case or that I think it is.
Furthermore, the manga is the origin of this character but for me, every(!) serious and acknowledged expands or can expand this way beyond that - the story may not end there.
Have a look at her figure and visual age in the different media till now. In my opinion it is pretty stubborn to proclaim that there is just the(tm) one and only Motoko. 
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Oh a new Ghost in the Shell series!! Nice! Love the art work to.
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Hey Ilya, I know you don't read comments but check this out:
I redlined it for you, so that you can learn from your mistakes instead of drawing the same girl over and over and over again.
Now of course a real professional would do a better job than I, but hey, baby steps. We'll both get there, eventually.
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I like your version more than what Ilya made.
I love oldschool anime designs much more than what they're making now.
Maybe just my taste, huh.
I wish you to finish this piece,
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The eye is a bit wonky so I'll definitely have to fix it, but I don't think I'll fully finish it. I'm not Ilya, I'm not comfortable with tracing over stuff and calling it my own.
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Oh no, I don't say to call it your own, you can always link to the original and say it's a fan art!
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If repetition is what bothers you... keeping the original design (because I guess what you tried to illustrate here is the version of Masamune Shirow, right? Although it also reminds me of the style of Rumiko Takahashi or Kenichi Sonoda...) would not be annoying for you given that we'd be talking about drawing the character exactly the same, one more time?
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Repetition alone doesn't bother me. Repetition + mediocrity bothers me, and specifically repetition + mediocrity when your job is to draw something that isn't mediocre.
Repeating Shirow, Sonoda or Takahashi's style can't be annoying, since their style was really fucking great.
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Without going into areas where subjectivity reigns, as the character design or the poor aspect of this new animation (our very personal tastes and aesthetic judgments would make things very difficult for us) I won't deny that the fact of not respecting the essence of certain things sometimes is a mistake. If we must complain about something, in this case we should do it about the destruction of iconic creations in order to obtain a commercial product just for the masses...
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Very nice fan art!
The thing about art is that there is no wrong way to approach it's creation.
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pretty sure most art teachers and philosophers of art, and artists, will tell you otherwise, but even if that were true, the end result is what matters, and that's what we're talking about here, the end result.
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That is not a yikes that is how Motoko is suppose to look and i would know since i have been a fan since i was 5 years old and i own the original manga. i don't see what the issue is here
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Friend, there are quite a few characters that have old desings made in the 70s/80s when the general style was a bit more rudimentar and of course that was the artist's personal style.
You're asking Ilya to change his style to copy the original because you can't adapt. So, a pro artist should not have his own style, he should copy the original style anytime he or she draws something that isn't his own OC? Yeah well, you could be a fan for 80 years, the fact that you can't understand art remains.
If you want the original, go and see Masamune's work but don't go around calling someone who has forgotten more about drawing, than you will ever, in your life know a bad artist just because he isn't copying the original and adding his own flair.
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No, no no no. We are asking him to change his style to copy the original because
1- the original style is WAY prettier
2- the original style fits the character's backstory more, as she's not supposed to look like a teen k-pop idol in the SAC continuity
>So, a pro artist should not have his own style, he should copy the original style anytime he or she draws something that isn't his own OC?
Maybe not anytime, but whenever the original style is better than his own, yes, he should copy the original style. Doing better things, is better than doing things that are worse.
Calling Shirow's style "rudimentary" when compared to Ilya's is like calling Tchaikovsky "basic" compared to Ed Sheeran, even in Shirow's current state.
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So, if some rando wannabe art critic thinks X's art is inferior to Y's, X should discard his own style.. I can't even.
Look at it however you want, older manga art is much less developped than it is today. Heck, you show a publisher a new manga draft with this "older style" and you're not getting through even if your story is good. There is a reason why new manga has a more modern look. So yes, rudimentary in the sense that it is old and it shows solely from the style. Not bad.
Saying Ilya's style is inferior to Shirow's is baffling, not to mention you say Shirow is prettier but Ilya makes the character too pretty, like ????? stroke?
Each artist excells in different degrees in different fields of the art of drawing, one is better at dynamic movement other at whatever.
The only things you managed to do here is embarrass yourself, the GitS fandom and show how little knowledge you have of art to begin with. Like they say having an opinion is fine, it only is an issue when you are an insufferable ass who insults people that you should apologize to for stealing their oxygen.
Summary: Go read Shirow's work and don't watch Ilya. Simple as that.
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No. NOT because someone thinks that one artstyle is inferior to another.
Because it is.
Look at it however you want, Shirow's style is better. Saying that Ilya's style is inferior to Shirow's is accurate, because it's a statement that matches the actual state of things, just open your eyes instead of blindly repeating the dogma of mediocrity.
Even if EVERYBODY hated it, it would still be better. We are not dealing with purely subjective matters here, we are dealing with quality. There is not a "reason" why new manga has a more modern look, there are CAUSES for it, the same way the plague epidemic was CAUSED by a lot of bad decisions and several unavoidable factors.
Also, don't conflate character and style. A pretty girl can still be drawn in an ugly style.
And Ilya's skill relies in tracing, rendering sunlit plastic textures up close, and in copying the same instagram womanchild model forever. However, this is not sufficient.
The GitS fandom SHOULD be embarrassed, it has been keeping a dead franchise afloat for far too long. Scroll up and you'll be looking at its corpse. She even looks like she's trying to hang herself.
Insufferable people can be dealt with, But being wrong as fuck and letting that influence the entertainment industry over the years, is not okay.
Summary: stop claiming that Ilya's style isn't inferior to Shirow's. Simple as.
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I'm going to be honest, I didn't read your wall of shame. Just, for once in your life, be quiet and make tour parents proud.
Your taste doesn't account for which style is better and you being stubborn just makes you seem like a manchild.
Ilya is doing great work and you don't need to see it if you don't like it.
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Of course you didn't.
Being stubborn in denying the glaringly obvious hierarchy between Ilya and Shirow makes you sound like a dishonest fanboy with some form of buyer's remorse. A reasonable person would at most say "okay Shirow is better but it doesn't matter it's a distinct continuity" or an equally timid cop-out. But you are straight up trying to gaslight me into thinking that Shirow's self-evident superiority only exists in my head, that's borderline creepy.
Ilya is very good at a few things, as I said. But this is not great work. None of what we've seen or heard about this series looks or sounds like great work.
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I believe that question should be directed at you, friend.
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Well this thread is interesting, don't mind me.
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Oh, wow! Okay, hyped for this!! Congrats on getting that gig!
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The more I see of this project the more excited I get. Congratulations.
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cool !! but damage she don't look like the original !! www.deviantart.com/netseawolf/…
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I believe he meant the original SAC
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Oh wow...definitely have to watch for this one. And your teaser looks great.
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How did I miss Ghost in the Shell News?! Like what went wrong there ho,y shit hahah.
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Из этого вашего поста узнала, что вы работаете над "Призраком".
Тот самый случай, когда не только фанарт стал работой.
А и работа стала фанартом!)))
Илья, я о вас довольно мало знаю, но тот факт, что вы русский, который в Японии рисует аниме, для меня непостижим))).
Таких, как вы или я, которые стали профессиональными художниками из-за аниме, - миллионы. Но вы, пожалуй, единственный, кто возглавил вот это вот все, - сам стал делать аниме))).
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