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I dunno if you guessed it, but I like drawing cute little ponies....fanart of a children's cartoon. And every so often, someone feels the need to tell me that my personal interest is stupid, childish, cancerous....."cringe-y". Boy howdy, do I hear that word tossed around a lot. Cringe, cringe, cringe. We're all afraid of making something cringe-worthy. Something that could end up in those lovely "Bad OC" cringe compilations. I see other artists, especially young creators, getting policed and attacked for creating something that could-gasp!- be interpreted as the dreaded Mary Sue. So artists stifle themselves. Can't make your OC too colorful. Don't you dare make them related to a canon character! Better watch that backstory, lest somebody decry your character as an edgelord. You can have a nerdy interest, but you better not be too fucking passionate about it. Watch yourself. Don't be too different. Don't be cringe-y.


So here's my question to ye gatekeepers of content, ye knowers of all things cringe-worthy, ye adamant enforcers of creative conformity...........Who cares?



Really. Why. Why is "cringe" an issue? So what if someone makes an edgy black-and-red OC, or a sparkly mary sue alicorn princess? So what if somebody makes up an over-powered self-insert and ships them with a canon character? So what if somebody dares to be unironically passionate about a fandom or interest considered less-than-cool? Who cares if people have imperfect, cliche-riddled characters they love?


Cringe culture is mean-spirited. It demands creators conform. It's perpetuated by people who, quite oddly, get really bent out of shape at the sight of people unironically enjoying harmless things.


I say forget it. Trample it. Let people have fun. Especially don't be cruel to young creators- nobody learns to be a skilled artist or writer overnight. And this is by no means a statement against criticism, even harsh criticism.....but there's a big, big difference between giving constructive criticism, vs choosing to crap on somebody for having a "cringe-y" interest. Clicking on someone's work to tell them that it's cringe, or cancer, or that they should kill themselves.....that's not criticism. It's cruelty. The only point of it is to discourage and shame creators, often young, vulnerable ones. There is nothing heroic or helpful about this behavior. This is what I am standing against. To make things clear, I am not anti-criticism. I am anti-bullying.


Idk. I'm a teacher with an Art Education degree, and I believe one of the most important things is to encourage people's interest in the arts, not push them away (out of a mean-spirited attempt to seem cooler by proxy). My favorite Mister Rogers quote (applies to artists of all ages):


"Do you like to draw with crayons? I'm not very good at it. But it doesn't matter. It's the fun of doing it that's important. Now, I wouldn't have made that if I just thought about it. No matter how anybody says it is....It feels good to have made something."


edit: adding in a relevant C.S. Lewis quote as well, on enjoying "childish things"


“Critics who treat ‘adult’ as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”





Join my Cringe Challenge here! Cringey Pony OC Challengefigured my last status would work better as a journal SO
I've got a little challenge for all my artists that love making MLP OCs~
if you want to, i'd sure appreciate if ya'll would design the "cringiest", most "mary-sue/gary stu" pony your brain can concoct, and submit your design to this journal in a comment. I'd like to do a piece about how cringe culture restricts our freedom as makers and consumers of content, so I'll be picking one of your "cringe" designs and drawing it! I'd like to make clear that this is not meant to be mean-spirited, your mock OC will be drawn respectfully, and hopefully be used to get those haters of "cringe-y OCs" to question why they feel the need to mock other people's harmless interests.
You can go however nuts you want. Break every OC-designing rule, design however you goddamn want. Wanna show me a rainbow-haired alicorn with jewel eyes and two sets of wings? Go for it! Make a black and red overpowered dark lord that cries ink black tears. This OC was designed by , their original (much better, lol) drawing is here:


edit: comments disabled because it's late and i'm tired, and some of ya'll are getting real huffy about a drawing of a rainbow horse with a flowery anti-bullying message. will probably turn comments back on later. For now i think i'm good on being told to kill myself. Great job convincing me cringe culture is totes necessary tho!

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Comments: 623

Evilhumour-Author In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 01:03:22 +0000 UTC]

Ya know, it actually looks good!

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OhBandera In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 01:00:47 +0000 UTC]

Hell yes, I couldn't agree with you more!


I really hate seeing those "cringe compilation" videos and entire groups built on bashing an entire interest that hurts nobody. Often times, the people who spend all their free time shitting on others have very little going on in their lives.


I love your art, I love the art of many other MLP artists. You've built a community around your work and I think that's really admirable.

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KalahariMeerkatfan In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:59:25 +0000 UTC]

Lop you have a habit of hitting the nail on the head . This actually applies to me in many a ways...especially when it comes to characters that I write about.

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imakitten In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:58:43 +0000 UTC]

So pretty!

As a college grad with an Art Associate's, I agree, cringe-culture is mean spirited. It's all fun and games, creating a character, but not if someone gets hurt in the end. Having that creative sparkle is amazing to have. And really, thinking about it, a lot of characters out there who seem cringy are actually just vibrant creations. Maybe some have a few colors that are a bit too bright, but maybe that's their purpose like the MLP franchise- to be bright and colorful. 

To be honest, I think the only thing that is really considered cringe-worthy is Deadpool from X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
(JK, I didn't really have much of an issue with that Deadpool, he's kinda cool.)

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Percy-McMurphy In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:58:41 +0000 UTC]

It is really, really refreshing to hear a big artist say this

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LunaSheWolf In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:57:33 +0000 UTC]

awesome

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RegalLeaf In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:56:52 +0000 UTC]

OMG I SO AGREE

i try to make my ocs decent because people say it's bad and looks H O R R I B L E so...

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS

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ladymysic0210 In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:55:11 +0000 UTC]

😱😱😱 that pony is pretty! What cringe? I see nothing but an explosion of color and awesomeness. Props to the original creator.

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Off-Spring In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:55:10 +0000 UTC]

Fucking preach mate!

I'm whole fully with this movement all the way, throw the 'cringe' culture out the window, because honestly why is it cringe? Why should someone interests, passion or outlook on a character or ship be shunned as cringe? Is someone that petty and so mean-spirited that you feel the right to judge another as cringe, because of one simple thing that they don't approve of? It's a truly shameless act, this must be trampled!

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DarkHeartMlp In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:51:15 +0000 UTC]

Just finished reading the description, and I couldn't agree more. MLP is a show for kids, let them create their oc's the way they want. I like to use my oc's as a way of expressing myself. Or how I wish I could be in real life. So what if they want to be Rainbow dash's sister? That's just their dream, their fantasy, how they wish life was. It's just for fun, if you think about it, maybe we want to be a super overpowered person with magic. So let characters, drawings backstories just be your own little fantasy. "Oh, but it's cringey, it burn my eyes!" Then don't fucking look at it! There's a difference between, "Cringe" and "Critism" (not sure if I spelled it right) and calling something cringe isn't helping someone, sure giving advice is okay, but telling someone they should DIE, because of a simple character is just too much. I have seen stuff like that it's ridiculous nowdays how every problem can be simply solved by someone killing themselves. Ship this ship? Kill yourself. Like this game? Kill yourself. Drawing is ugly? Kill yourself. Suicide is a serious problem and if you think that saying something like that won't get you in trouble, you're WRONG. I have witnessed things like that myself, my friend got arrested by cyberbullying a girl, to the point where she commited suicide. I was about to go to her house when I saw that she got arrested. It saddens me knowing how messed up internet is nowdays, and specially because it's a place where people like me get more confortable. But things like that just ruin everything, it makes you ashamed of being a human being.

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SilverMuttt In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:49:01 +0000 UTC]

I’ve only seen the opposite, where there’s so much coddling and no one improves. 

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Lopoddity In reply to SilverMuttt [2018-06-13 00:57:18 +0000 UTC]

Can't say everybody shares your experience. As an artist, I can say I get flak daily from those dastardly keepers of the cringe.

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SilverMuttt In reply to Lopoddity [2018-06-13 02:49:44 +0000 UTC]

Well that’s why I said “I”. But along with that I’m sure you get many compliments and favorites. It is a matter of expressing an opinion as long as the person isn’t purposefully being nasty.

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Lopoddity In reply to SilverMuttt [2018-06-13 03:04:37 +0000 UTC]

Compliments and favorites don't negate the comments I get like "brony cringe", "furfag", and the ever-so-popular "kill yourself". Cringe culture isn't giving an opinion so much as it is antagonizing anybody who doesn't conform to a very narrow, arbitrary set of standards. At its lightest, it's mean-spirited perpetuation of conformity, and at its worst, it's flat out bullying, often directed at young, vulnerable artists.

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SilverMuttt In reply to Lopoddity [2018-06-13 03:10:18 +0000 UTC]

Exactly, I’m not saying that’s right. Hence the “purposefully being nasty.” But I also don’t believe in only 100% encouragement. Critique is very important as well. Thats where I’ve noticed most improvement within myself and other artists. You need to want to improve, and if you’re not competitive some good honest and kind critique I feel is important in an artists life. Especially if they want to do it for a job.

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Lopoddity In reply to SilverMuttt [2018-06-13 03:22:44 +0000 UTC]

Yes, but this isn't a discussion about criticism. The whole point is addressing cringe culture.

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SilverMuttt In reply to Lopoddity [2018-06-13 03:24:59 +0000 UTC]

Cringe culture IS modern criticism. Not always, and usually stupidly overly judgmental, but is in its own way stating how a piece of art could be better. 

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Lopoddity In reply to SilverMuttt [2018-06-13 03:37:53 +0000 UTC]

Telling someone their work is "cringe-y" is not criticism. These people aren't looking to give constructive critique, they're looking to feel superior to others. That's the point of countless cringe compilations, Bad OC blogs, and posts making fun of "tumblr art style", "cal arts" style, popular fandoms, even the way people use language (like kids who dare to still use "rawr" or "X3"). It's about enforcing conformity, trying to make yourself look cooler by comparison. If some kid posts their OC online and receive this feedback "brony cringe kill urself", that's not helping them grow as an artist. More likely, it'll drive them off making art for good. Cringe culture belongs in the trash.

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SilverMuttt In reply to Lopoddity [2018-06-13 03:53:22 +0000 UTC]

Not all cringe comps are about that, it’s also about teaching others how not to do that. And I’d say it is criticism. Not constructive for sure, but it’s the same as calling out someone’s art as being “poorly made.” Along with art critique is also very subjective. I’d say anything negative said to a persons work Is criticism. But yeah, saying “cringe” technically is not critique since it’s definitely not detailed or something that anylizes a piece. So...I get what you mean in that front. But it does belong in a similar category I feel. 
and if it DOES drive a kid off of making art for good they weren’t too passionate anyway, because usually unless they where being bullied horribly it’d be super difficult for someone to leave what they love doing. 

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Lopoddity In reply to SilverMuttt [2018-06-13 04:08:56 +0000 UTC]

I'm not really sure why you're arguing this. My entire point is "people, especially kids, deserve not to be made fun of for their interests", and you're insisting on playing devil's advocate.

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SilverMuttt In reply to Lopoddity [2018-06-13 04:14:07 +0000 UTC]

“a person who expresses a contentious opinion in order to provoke debate or test the strength of the opposing arguments.”

Okay, you just posted a long lengthy article on how the cringe culture is horrendous, I don’t know why you weren’t expecting an argument to come around.
and I never meant this to be an argument. I agree with many of your points. Truly. Especially considering you’re an art teacher so you definitely know what you’re doing. But just because I don’t 100% agree and I don’t mind talking about it doesn’t mean I want to spark an argument. I’m more interested In discussion and other points of views so I can learn.

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luna150 In reply to SilverMuttt [2018-06-16 05:40:47 +0000 UTC]

And what did you learn?

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SilverMuttt In reply to luna150 [2018-06-16 18:13:59 +0000 UTC]

Nothing from this exchange really.

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Nuclear-Powered In reply to SilverMuttt [2018-06-19 01:05:40 +0000 UTC]

 

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SilverMuttt In reply to Nuclear-Powered [2018-06-19 03:54:21 +0000 UTC]

 

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luna150 In reply to SilverMuttt [2018-06-17 05:35:02 +0000 UTC]

And what do you think that says about you?

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SilverMuttt In reply to luna150 [2018-06-17 05:38:21 +0000 UTC]

That I’m being interrogated by extremely vague and aimless questions.

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luna150 In reply to SilverMuttt [2018-06-17 05:46:38 +0000 UTC]

And this is why you don't learn, honey bumpkins - You don't actually want to.
Have a lovely evening

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SilverMuttt In reply to luna150 [2018-06-17 05:59:00 +0000 UTC]

Hmm. Yes clearly I don't learn because I don't answer creepy online strangers extremely obscure questions. "What do you think that says about you?" Welp I've already taken the "find myself." Test online. Don't need to do it again with someone who uses very, very, creepy condescending nick names.

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luna150 In reply to SilverMuttt [2018-06-17 06:08:01 +0000 UTC]

And you did a very good job missing the point, honey bumpkins! We're all very proud of you, it was very brave of you to stand up to the creepy questions, would you like a sticker or a cookie? Know what? For being so very brave about the non-threatening comments, you can both!

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SilverMuttt In reply to luna150 [2018-06-17 06:11:47 +0000 UTC]

What kind of cookie?

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luna150 In reply to SilverMuttt [2018-06-17 06:12:17 +0000 UTC]

Any kind you want, honey bumpkins

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SilverMuttt In reply to luna150 [2018-06-17 06:15:04 +0000 UTC]

This is why I do not give information to random people on deviantART xD.

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SanctuaryoftheMind In reply to Lopoddity [2018-06-13 02:07:37 +0000 UTC]

Actually, I've had those experiences too. It seems that in this day and age, we deal with both extremes: too much coddling and too much bashing. Whatever happened to balancing praise and criticism? Why does it always have to be one way or the other? I don't mind criticism if there's valid advice attached to it...but I rarely see that kind of thoughtful critique anymore; instead, they just say things like "dis is stupid lol". And on the flip side, some artists throw temper tantrums because someone dared to make a suggestion for improvement...and as a result, people start to feel like they can't offer any kind of constructive criticism at all and instead just have to blindly praise the hell out of it. Both are toxic, and both are becoming the norm...it really sucks. :/

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SilverMuttt In reply to SanctuaryoftheMind [2018-06-13 03:19:49 +0000 UTC]

Ah yeah, I’ve witnessed many temper tantrums. I don’t believe there’s no such thing as “bad” art. Since...that just honestly makes no sense. Sure, art is subjective but everything stops at a point.
I have a few disorders so I’m usually brutally honest at times, and I’ve noticed in this day and age critique is so horribly demonized. If you’re a Christian you wish all gays where dead, if you’re not a liberal you’re a bigot (not all liberals are like that, my sister is one and she’s great) if you’re not with me you’re agaings me, etc most of the time this ideal shows itself politically but it’s pretty strong in the art world too. 

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Sigil-Kane In reply to SilverMuttt [2018-06-13 06:51:47 +0000 UTC]

It is only human to believe if someone is not with you they are against you. It's how we as a species always have been, and it's how we always will be until we ultimately, and gloriously destroy ourselves.

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hayleybh1997 In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:47:55 +0000 UTC]

Calling someone's art "cringy" is just that person trying to stifle the artist creativity. The trying to dissuade people from exploring their own creativity and Passions.

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saphire321 In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:47:43 +0000 UTC]

Hearing you say this is a HUGE breath of fresh air. I've always hated when I've seen people hate on artists for how "bad their characters are" or "You shouldn't like that." As you have stated, YES. There is a difference between constructive criticism and just hating on someone for no reason in particular. People should see that it isn't the right way to properly address what YOU think is wrong with something. You could very much discourage an artist from ever drawing again because you made them think that they weren't worth anything! Thank you for speaking out about the whole "cringe" thing. Many of us thank you.

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KioskOfSquids In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:47:17 +0000 UTC]

Cringe culture has always been something I was afraid of. Being a kid in a fandom full of adults and people who make non- "cringeworthy" content has always been difficult. You get pushed around, told you're "just another cringey kid." This pushed me to feel like I had to grow and improve quickly, so I wasn't targeted. Sadly, this kept me from having fun during my early days of art, and made me think I had to hate other people because of their interests being gross or cringy.
Stop cringe culture. It hurts people.

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Tamayako In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:46:36 +0000 UTC]

DOWN WITH CRINGE
seriously cringe is such a stupid thing these days yet it's so easy to get held back because of it
But goddamn a reminder of how stupid it is is always nice~

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Ashleydoesarts In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:44:15 +0000 UTC]

I get alot of people saying my ocs are cringy sometimes my...art...mainly that's why I've changed mainly my ocs...I don't know why cringe is even a thing...everyone should have their own interests..

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DuneFilly In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:44:01 +0000 UTC]

Excellent input on the matter!
It's important that artists, and those who like to look at said art, support one another in developing our tastes and creations by creating an open environment with room to improve and flourish. "Cringe" culture harms that development process and only limits artists from becoming the best they can be. Thank you so much for your words of wisdom! I hope your purpose for doing this really does help others to see the truth in your words. Let "Cringe Culture" be trampled by this movement!

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Lopoddity In reply to DuneFilly [2018-06-13 00:56:08 +0000 UTC]

Well said.

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StarlightPheonix In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:43:22 +0000 UTC]

I love the idea of this! Not to mention, that's not even the true meaning of cringe. 


cringe

krinj/

verb

  • bend one's head and body in fear or in a servile manner.

    "he cringed away from the blow"

    synonyms:cower, shrink, recoil, shy away, flinch, blench, draw back;


  • It's just a word's meaning being covered up with judgement and hatred. Some people just draw to get feelings and energy out. If they're feeling into it, let them draw what THEY want to draw ^-^

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    Hei-xinghuo In reply to StarlightPheonix [2018-06-18 11:41:14 +0000 UTC]

    recoil, shy away, flinch <- the synonyms are where the 'cringe culture' is getting calling art 'cringe-y' or 'cringe worthy' and all the other Cringe- word combos they wanna create. they mean it to imply that they are physically flinching / shying away from / or recoiling from the sight of your art. it is literally one of the WORST thing you can tell an artist, that their art effects you so negatively that they have to move away from it. (all though for C-C its to move down into your comment section to hate on you and let you know how bad they flinched...) the only way I can think of that calling a piece cringe wouldn't be a bad thing is if they do gore/horror set ups. 

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    TheDexterminator In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:43:09 +0000 UTC]

    Absolutely marvelous!

    I was so happy to see so many rainbows in the challenge entries xD

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    st4rpunk In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:43:01 +0000 UTC]

    this is one of the most refreshing things to hear from an experienced artist! i have tons and tons of ocs that would be considered """""cringey"""""" but they really mean so much to me.. when i was 11/12 i was afraid to post my art anywhere in fear of ending up on those "terrible art blogs". anyways this is just an amazing thing to hear from one of my favorite artists!

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    Ch00ky In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:42:07 +0000 UTC]

    Lol it's adoreable

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    Francy-petrichor In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:42:05 +0000 UTC]

    BLESS this Lop!!! Very clever of you!!!

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    SilverStarStrike In reply to ??? [2018-06-13 00:40:16 +0000 UTC]

    Preach! Preach, man! I honestly tried to sit down and watch cringe compilations, but I couldn't even sit through them, not because some of the things in the videos made me cringe honestly, but because of the general nature of the video. I remember when I used to be mean-spirited and berated others because they did something "cringey," but you know what? I just let them do what they do. I may not agree with what they do, but I have no control over them outside of whether I'd encourage them or not. Granted I would warn if what they're doing is dangerous, but if it's just a rainbow/edgey OC or whatevs, then as long as they aren't being an ass about it, then that's fine with me!

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