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MattMoylan — Lil Formers - Star Trek
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Star Trek has a hit movie and Star Wars has a crappy TV show... has the world gone topsy turvy?!My thoughts on the new Trek Movie - it was awesome. Exceeded all my expectations, a great movie. But there is also sadness, since this movie also burns 40+ years of Trek history that I love. YES, the movie gives fans the bone that it's an alternative timeline and not actually changing history, but that doesn't matter. The Classic Trek universe (TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY) is dead. Paramount won't be going back to it. Imagine for all you comic fans, if they had cancelled the classic Marvel Universe when they came up with Ultimate Spider-man. Ultimate Spidey is great but...I grew up with classic Marvel U and I love it, even though lately it has gotten pretty sucky.
So while this is a great movie, I will still miss the real Star Trek. The movie's not without flaws of course... Nimoy felt to me to give the weakest performance of the cast, or of his career....Uhura was a totally useless character who added nothing to the movie...and overall it was all action with no real substance or meaning. But it was so good and so much fun I can look past the problems.
Go see it if you haven't!
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GASP* I never had it put that way before! If the original spidey universe were to die..idk what I would do! I can empathize a bit now, but I never was a huge star trek fan.
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Love this piece. The movie was awesome too. I like Star Wars but Trek has always been the better of the two. Being a fan of the shows (though DS9 was kinda weak), I do love the movie nevertheless. Making it an alternate universe seems like an easy way out but at least they took it. Imagine how much worse it would have been if they just said "this is the way its going to be and damn the rest of the franchise". Also, the new Chekov really nailed the accent.
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DS9 is my fav! here's my show heirarchy:
Deep Space 9
Next Gen
Original
Voyager
Enterprise
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first, this pic is simply fantastic. i particularly love how you managed to give vader that worried, sad look in his helmet eyes. it made me laugh.
second, totally agree with you about nimoy's disappointing presence in the new film. it just felt like a grab for the older audience to have him there - which, it probably was to a certain extent - but he's an outstanding actor and i would've loved to see him do a little more with it.
third, i disagree about uhura, but i'm not going to step on your toes here 
and finally, my hierarchy:
DS9
TNG
Voyager
Original
Enterprise
my fav film is the Voyage Home because i was just a wee lass when i saw it and i loved the whales! the nostalgia factor has always outweighed the fact that it's just not the greatest film. otherwise, i love First Contact.
thanks for your art
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It was good, it just wasn't great. Mine would have to be:
Next Gen
Original
Enterprise
Voyager
Deep Space 9
What are your feelings on the movies? Do you believe in the odds/evens curse?
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Not a curse but I like some even ones best. Here's my quick list just thought up now
6 Undiscovered country
8 First Contact
2 Wrath of Khan
11 Star Trek
7 Generations
4 Voyage home
1 Motion Picture
9 Insurrection
5 Final Frontier
10 Nemesis
3 Search for Spock
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11 Star Trek
8 First Contact
2 Wrath of Khan
6 Undiscovered Country
10 Nemesis
4 Voyage Home
7 Generations
5 Final Frontier
9 Insurrection
1 Motion Picture
3 Search for Spock
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No soy muy clavado de las dos franquicias, pero ambas me gustan(creci viendo las series y las peliculas de Star Trek y de Star Wars), mientras me den momentos de entretenimiento y de diversion todo esta bien para mi; por cierto, la ilustracion esta divertida y bien hecha, saludos y suerte.
I'm not quite nailed the two franchises, but I like both (I grew up watching the series and the movies of Star Trek and Star Wars), while giving me moments of entertainment and fun all this good for me, of course, the illustration this fun and well done, greetings and luck.
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I hate to break it to you... but Marvel's been bought out by Disney. The world as we know it is at an end. Nice, though 
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so funny, ahh, good times, good times
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Your description...it's my thoughts EXACTLY.
They haven't revived Trek...just changed it. The Trek we loved is still going to die out, and something else is taking it's place. :c The convention this year was FULL of new movie fans. Somebody asked something about the Spock/Uhura relationship *gack* and everybody applauded...
They practically said in the movie it wasn't canon, and yet, everyone else seems to consider it canon. Bagh.
I did love the movie, but yeah...it's not actual Trek at all :/
This comic is great though XD I hadn't thought of it that way. And you know what's even more disturbing? A lot of the Star Wars fans are saying they like Star Trek now! Hell has frozen over...
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just shows how st characters can kick sw characters
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Epic win! 
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I adooooored the new Trek movie, adored it. x3
My mother has been a fan since the first episode aired back in 1966, she was enthralled with the new movie as well- gave it a nice juice up of life. I guess it all comes down to personal preference. I loved Nimoy in the new movie, but I'm with you on Uhura... what was up with that, man?
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The new Spock is sexy and good in acting, but Anakin/Vader in the final movie (Revenge of the Sith) is wooden and only good lookin'.
Spock rocks 
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As I have been involved in the old Star Trek vs Star Wars debate since the mid 90's, I can point out a few things;
Star Trek was in need of newer and better stories, the show had got trapped in a rut where every new show was a clone of the show that came before it. They never tried anything new or really edgy, the movies which were made by Berman & Braga (the dreaded B&B) were suffering from what I called Khan envy, every new movie needed to find a Khan-worthy villan for Picard and failed miserably because of it story-wise.
Star Wars suffers from one thing and it's in the main tital, WAR. The show has never been about anything else, it's just one big ongoing neverending war. There is barely enough room for telling any other kind of story, one without all of the conflict. As such we only ever see the galaxy at war all of the time (I am including the expanded universe in this as well), the clone wars of the prequals never really ends, it just turns into the galactic civil war from the original trilogy. And if you know the expanded universe material, that war does'nt end for another 25 years after the original trilogy before another war begins immediatly after, sucks to be Luke Skywalker.
I dont mind that the new movie changes the star trek timeline, that was needed in order to avoid the continuity flaws that us die-hard trekkies would see, even now there are plenty of trekkies who are pointing out the flaws of this movie and complaining about the changes to the timeline, get over it. This film has breathed new life into a franchise that was no longer attracting new fans because it's stories were uninteresting (Enterprise). As for star wars, the clone wars series is fun but what exactly is it all about? Its nothing more than mindless action, fun but pointless, nothing wrong with that but at least star trek has mostly been about something if only about exploring what it means to be human.
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I thought it was a really good movie, but I didn't think it felt like Star Trek enough... It lacked the feeling of some of the other movies and series, in my opinion. The special effects, acting, and basically the whole lot ('cept maybe the villian) were all really good, but it didn't feel right. Do get what I'm saying?
But I love this piece nonetheless... Though I DO sorely miss my DS9! It used to be on Spike TV, since I was like... a newborn back in '93 when the series started. I got into it a couple years back.
I'll still get the movie when it comes out on DVD, and I love that it's repopularized the franchise. Maybe like with "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight", the sequel in 2011/2012 will be better than the movie we saw in May. :3
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Okay.
The old Star Trek was awesome. I agree. However, I thought the new movie was frickin' awesome as well. I thought it was very well done. And (SPOILERS COMING, THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE IGNORE ME) even though there were about 2 flaws (Spock/Ohura thing did upset me...), it left the door open for the crew to go back in time and fix what was changed. And you know they'll need to. Since they all ended up like they were in the series (for the most part) Kahn will be in the picture eventually. And in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn, somebody died. Well, in the new movie, this person's mother dies. But she was supposed to be the one who restored this person's human feelings and such when he was "brought back" in Star Trek II. So we know they have to go back and fix everything, for his sake. At least...they better. I even heard they were thinking of using the character of Kahn for the next movie (which would actually suck...Star Trek II is too good and classic to be remade). They can't just start the whole series over again; they'd have a frickin' mob on their hands! A mob of us Trekies! But if they end up remaking the series...well...I'll definitely be in that angry mob.
Sorry for the ramble, but my point is that you shouldn't be so disappointed over the movie, because new things can happen in the next one that will somehow clarify everything. Not to mention the amazing acting.
And I thought Nimoy in the movie made it better...having more of a sense for the past. I was also impressed by new Spock. Bones was AMAZING. Lol.
Sorry for wasting your time...I do tend to talk alot when it comes to something I love.
And I laughed when I saw that picture by the way!
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Ha, ha, ha tweeking the warsies, I love it
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You forgot Star Trek: Enterprise in your little speil about how the other timelines dont exist anymore.
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because Enterprise happened before the timeline change. it's not affected
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I've always hated Star Trek, but I went to the new movie and I loved it. and I am so sad because I am a Star Wars fan for life, and it is just going nowhere right now...
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Maybe you should check TOS or TNG. You said you hated it... but then you go loving a new movie??
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Yeah... I don't know. I can't explain it. Whats TOS? I know TNG...
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oh... haha. Um I've seen a bit of it because my mom and older sister are fans. I just can't watch it for too long because it's so cheezy. Leonard Nimoy and guy who played McCoy (?) I think were the only good actors on the show. On the show. Some of them may have gotten better since I don't know..
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Oh Deforrest (probably spelled wrong) Kelley? Well yes. It's cheesy, That's why I love it.
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Yeah that's the one. I am starting to understand that... weird. There are a lot of things that I like even though they're cheezy. I'm just saying that Star Trek in general used to annoy the hell out of me. Now I don't mind it... cause of one movie.. it's wierd. Also, I've had a few run-ins with one or two obsessed with Star Trek people and.. yeah.. I went away thinking, I never want to be like that, so I want nothing to do with it. Sorry if I'm babbling at you...
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The old Trek universe isn't necessarily dead. It still exists through novels and video games. Star Trek Online is coming out soon, and still takes place in the post-Nemesis timeline.
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yes, thought those are all non-canon stories so while fun tend not to matter in the long run
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Hee, hee, hee, Love the comic.
I agree with your feelings on the movie. Especially the part about Uhura. Still, it was the most fun I've had watching a new movie in a long time. ^_^
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Something I've always stood by...
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Wait, did they confirm not going back to the prime universe? 'cause to jump back to your Marvel example, they pulled the alternative timeline thing there before, while keeping the original timeline intact.
And I don't recall where, but I do know that there's been several fictional scenarios in which a change in the timeline meant the two would continue seperate from eachother. Meaning the Prime universe still exists as a parallel universe.
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Calling it an alternate timeline is jsut so fans would freak out and have a heart attack. They absolutely have not plan to go back to original trek. I don't see whyt hey would with the movie being so successful. Just like how Battlestar would never go back to the original version either.
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Yet both classic Trek (TOS-VOY), and 70's Battlestar Galactica are so much better. R.I.P Star Trek we knew ye well. Oh, and if Gene's going to be spinning in his grave can we at least harness it for something productive?
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I can imagine them going the traditional way and introducing yet another crew in the prime universe, for a TV show. Would also be a (well, less) confusing way to produce something for TV while maintaining the movies.
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Going back in time and changing what happened does not mean that what had happened in your life previously did not happen.
personally I think that the movie is absolutely amazing
i do agree about the new Star Wars TV show. i think that they break the Jedi code at least once in every episode. for example, Anikin can not have an apprentice because he is still an apprentice him self during that time period. i could go on about this for a long time and I have already written a really long comment.
sory for the long comment
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I think this star trek movie was more of a bring an old series back to life in a new age than a totally new thing i really hope they decide to do more with this
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ha yeh suckit star wars you must do one on cloverfield cause i think cloverfield sucks it bee funny to bag it
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like holy crap, i totally agree with u: Uhura is a complete waste of time! She's probably just gonna end up hurtin' Spock even more than he already is... and I would seriously kill the writers 4 that! But other than Uhura I thought the rest of the movie was completely amazing! I just love the actors who played Kirk and Spock, they did great together!
Oh and I didn't forget about the awesome artwork, don't worry. ^-^ I absolutely love what you did there, and it's true the way Star Trek is totally kicking Star Wars' butt right now. Star Wars really needs to get in gear and stop making that useless cartoon! Star Trek totally pwns!! XD
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Nice pic I agree with everything you (baring Uhura being useless as she was integral to locating the romulans and some other stuff) anyway its about time star trek had another good movie since first contact.
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