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Mr-Dragon-JC — This hate is not helping both sides.
Published: 2015-02-22 17:11:49 +0000 UTC; Views: 10721; Favourites: 506; Downloads: 5
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Simple, I'm honestly tired of people being transphobic to transgender and people identifying as their true gender are being hated on also. (AKA, Cisphobic (i dont care if it exists or not, thats just how I'm going to call it.).Let me say, hating back at what people are hating you only generates more hate.
BUT, hear me out. I understand how transgender people have life, its completely rough..they get discriminated for being trans which is unacceptable. They deserve just as much rights as a normal person would have, but hating on people who identify as their true gender doesn't help one bit.
In my eyes, if people would just accept transgender people for who they are. Then this hate would maybe not even exist anymore, but thats just my opinion.
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this is so funny you literally didnt understand anything i said and then you call me wrong... all anti-sjws are the same... they all talk like 12 year olds who just lost a match of call of duty....
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lol
i am anti sjw, but i'm not rabid. i'm just trying to tell you that what you're doing is wrong, and you're only making things worst for yourself and other LGBT people.
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no, trust me im pretty sure the people murdering us and denying us basic human rights are the ones making it worse!
you talk EXACTLY like every other anti-sjw ive ever spoken to, you're pretty damn "rabid" if arguing with 14-year olds on topics you have no knowledge of is your daily hobby..... also, you're acting like im not oppressed for being trans???? shut up, you literally dont know what you're talking about
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dude, you may feel oppressed, but so does everyone at some point in their lives, poor or homeless people, bully victims, it's rare to find someone who HASN'T felt like they were being oppressed at one point in their lives. and you're no different.
yeah, there are Christians getting killed too, you see me screaming "oppression" and thinking anyone who isn't Christian is oppressive? no you don't. everyone can be harmed with anything for any reason. EVERYONE is and can be discriminated against, you make it seem like it's only LGBT people that get bullied or killed, open your freaking eyes and get over yourself!
and also? if i WERE a rabid anti SJW, believe me i'd be saying MUCH worst things to you. i've seen people say being trans was a mental illness and that trans people should be shot, as well as purposefully misgendering people for the sake of hurting someone, and you're saying I'M the rabid one? have i called you ANY anti LGBT slurs? have i misgendered you (ON PURPOSE! i must add)? have i mentioned you having a mental illness and denying the existence of transgendered people? NO! so how am i the rabid one? when you aren't listening to anything i'm saying, assuming things about me just because i disagree with you, and repeating the same dumb joke over and over again when you can't think of an argument? that sounds like something a rabid SJW would do to me. the rabid one seems to be you in this situation.
also. no i'm not picking on you because you're younger, heck i'm not even picking on you! i'm simply trying to tell you that the things you're saying and doing are wrong! you're not helping LGBT people live in a safer world and live a better life, you're not helping bring equality to all, instead you are bringing more hate to LGBT people, and you are NOT helping gain equality.
and if you SERIOUSLY think you are, then let me ask you this. you want equality for your fellow human race? then don't you find it AT ALL contradictory to your cause to be screaming "DOWN WITH CIS!" "CISSCUM!" "FUCK CIS PEOPLE, LET'S BULLY THEM!"? don't you find it at all hypocritical, to say you want equality, yet you don't treat cis people as your equal? if you don't, then you're even more fucked up then i thought! i said this once i'll say it again. you're only hurting your own cause by acting this way, you're only helping LGBT people get more hate, and you're not helping bring equality. if you DO want equality, and help LGBT people live better lives, then you need to DROP this "every cis person's out to get us!" "no cis person supports us and is transphobic!" mentality. there are cis people who are pro LGBT, in fact, there's more pro LGBT people then anti LGBT people. you need to see everyone as your equal, this includes cisgendered people. just because there are a few assholes out there, you shouldn't blame everyone for what a few people do.
and again, get over yourself, everyone has problems, everyone faces discrimination, and everyone feels oppressed at some point in their lives! you're not special, even if you're trans, or gay, or anything else. you're a human, like me, and everyone else. and i'm not saying that to hurt you, or bully you or whatever excuse you can come up with, i'm saying that because it's the truth. and yes the truth does hurt, but it's necessary. you need a serious reality check, you need to get over yourself, and you need to stop and THINK for once.
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oppression is systematic. its not just when someone dies. its systematic discrimination for centuries. so no, not everyone feels oppressed, unless they are part of a systematically oppressed minority. im oppressed for being trans, gay, and mentally ill because other people get privileges for being cis, straight, and mentally okay.
are you seriously saying that you're being nice and calm by not calling me slurs? im repeating jokes bc i dont WANT to argue with you, its just funny to see you get worked up. ill do it again, down with cis
i never said no cis person supports us. i said every cis person is transphobic bc every TRANS person is even transphobic. its called growing up in a transphobic and cissexist society.
cis people are still going to murder us and kill us if we're nice. im not going to kiss cis peoples shoes in the desperate hope that they'll leave us alone bc trust me, that didnt work for centuries. stop blaming trans people for their oppression, stop talking about things you dont know about. are you seriously, as a cishet, trying to tell a gay and trans person that theyre wrong about their own experience and issues? fuck off you piece of absolute garbage. you cant possibly be right in this situation, because you dont even experience it.
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ok you need to do some research, that means step away from tumblr and look up proper definitions. next thing i know you'll tell me that racism is "POWER PLUS PRIVILEGE", my goodness.
oppression is also described as the feeling of being heavily burdened, mentally or physically, by troubles, adverse conditions, anxiety, etc.. some examples would be: someone who is up to their eyeballs in debt, or their homeless, someone who is bullied, so on and so forth. anyone can feel as though they are being oppressed, not just you.
ok tell me this. what rights do i, someone who is mentally well, straight, and cis, have that you don't have? can you answer me that? make sure to list legit human rights and not "you don't get bullied!" or something along those lines.
oh no my dear, i can say much worst things, and i have seen people say much worst things then i have said. the thing's i've said are tame to what i've seen.
omfg not every cis person is out to get you, stop talking as if they are.
dude, get off of tumblr, it's rotted away your mind and sense of reason. everyone is a little something, everyone is a little racist too, everyone, not just cis people.
it's called being the better person, you calling them "cisscum" and "down with cis" makes you no better then they are. if they think you're a bad person then prove them wrong! and as i said, i'm not blaming trans people for their oppression, i'm blaming rabid SJWs like you for helping spread the hate because of the way you act. get over yourself, everyone can feel oppressed, everyone can be discriminated against, everyone has problems, you're not special just because your gay and trans, you're a human like the rest of us.
i say this once i'll say this again, with the way you act, you're only doing more harm then good. heck, i've met many gay trans people say they're ashamed of being trans because of people like you. it's funny how the people you're trying to represent and "protect", don't like you (SJWs). because SJWs like you, are hypocrites, ignorant, egotistical, hateful, harmful, and toxic.
and if you didn't want to argue with anyone, then why respond to everyone trying to argue? because it gives you attention? you're probably just being controversial for the sake of attention. if you really don't want to argue, then simply don't respond. and if you do, you'll only prove me right.
i just hope one day you grow up and realize how you're acting is wrong, that you're actually bringing more hate to LGBT, and that you're being a hypocrite by saying you want equality, yet you don't treat cis people as your equal. in fact you've actually admitted to BULLYING them, don't you think THAT is a bit contradictory to what you're trying to accomplish? don't you find it at ALL hypocritical? like, how do you NOT see it? how can you NOT see why people hate SJWs, how can you NOT see how ignorant you're being? don't you do proper research instead of relying on tumblr, deviantart, and twitter posts? seriously, do some real research, and figure out a way to help the LGBT community and everyone gain equal rights. instead of acting like cis people are nothing but devil spawns and you're the innocent angel trying to protect us from evil cisfucks. newsflash! you're not, you're just as bad as those who call you anti LGBT slurs, as those who mock you, and as those who deny your existence and say you're just going through a phase and or it's a mental disorder. as even the stamp itself says, hating on cisgendered people doesn't make you any better!
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>That is not the oppression I am speaking of. I am speaking of systematic oppression and systematic oppression only. And yes, breaking news, homeless people are systematically oppressed, people who are bullied can be systematically oppressed (example, they are autistic and that is why they are bullied, or they develop a mental illness due to the trauma they faced getting bullied). People in debt can be systematically oppressed (if they are poor, for example.)
>Well let's see, you're less likely to be homeless, you're more likely to get a job/promotion, you're less likely to commit suicide, you're less likely to be disowned by your family, you're less likely to be abused by doctors. Hmm... you're less likely to be killed, you're less likely to die in general, you can't be killed in some countries for your gender/sexuality alone. You're less likely to be harassed, you're less likely to be raped. People don't shoot up bars because they are a safeplace for your sexuality, people don't go to parades for you with bombs and guns... Hmm... you don't have to face the trauma of the closet, people usually assume your gender correctly, people don't refuse to use your name/pronouns, and if they do, it doesn't cause you dysphoria that makes you want to kill yourself. You don't need to go through surgery and expensive HRT to "prove" you are your gender, you don't have people telling you it's a phase, or that you're mentally fucked in the head because of your gender/sexuality. You aren't sexualized for your sexuality. You aren't asked what genitals you have, you aren't sexually harassed so people can find out what genitals you have. You're less likely to be abused by your significant other once you come out of the closet as trans.
>Don't fucking threaten to call me slurs and disgusting, revolting things. Don't threaten to use my disadvantages against me, because that just PROVES how bigoted you are. And, you do know, by threatening to do those things, you already said them and therefore your threat is invalid.
>I never said they are.
>Yes, I know, and it's something people need to unlearn.
>I mean you, as well, are being a hypocrite, ignorant, egotistical, hateful, harmful, and toxic. So......... what's your point. "SJW" is such a shitty term made up by people who are privileged and ignorant to hold power over people who want equality. People who are "ashamed to be trans because of me" don't realize that everyone has their own damn opinion, and my opinion (ALONE) isn't fucking hurting them. I'm TIRED of sitting around, taking bullshit. That's not my job. I'm allowed to be bitter, untrusting, angry, hateful, because I'm tired. I'm tired of seeing my community murdered, I'm tired of people assuming my gender, I'm tired, I'm so tired. I'm a trans person, and you're blaming me for my oppression, so you're blaming a trans person for their oppression. It's not that hard to figure out. Also, hey, I know I'm not special because I'm gay and trans, maybe tell that to the people oppressing and murdering us! Stop acting like my parent it's....... kinda concerning.
>If i don't respond, you will think you are right. This is not what I want. Also, so what if i hate attention problems? I'm mentally ill, it fucking happens. Wanting attention is a basic human need, and negative attention keeps me busy and preoccupied.
>No... no, I'm not just as bad as people who murder me.... See, cis people can simply log off or click off of my page, I am not actively hunting people down and calling them derogatory slurs. I make a few petty jokes on the internet, I call out people's transphobia, and I'm done! I don't send hate mail, I don't send death threats, I'm pretty fucking tame. I can't just log off and forget trans/homophobia, since, you know, it follows me everywhere. Cis people can, which is why they are not comparable. I do do research, but see, I'm a 14 year old, closeted, mentally ill trans boy, I can't really, you know, go out and donate blood, or give money to causes online, I don't have the resources. You assume so much about me, I do actually, surprisingly, explain things to people if they're actually polite about it. I do, actually, joke about "down with trans," and have many cis friends. I do, actually, know I'm being immature and petty, so.... And hey, newsflash, if cis people didn't have societal privilege over trans people, I wouldn't "bully them," (aka, make a few jokes on my own personal blog, (even going as far to tag them so cis people don't have to see them on tumblr) and comment on people to inform them or who are being very very transphobic).
>I just hope, one day, you'll grow up and realize that talking to 14 year-olds on the internet just makes you look like a predatory dumbass who can't even hold their own argument (or composure!) against someone six years younger than them.
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i didnt' threaten to call you any slurs, all i said was that if i were as rabid as you think i am, i WOULD be saying slurs and tossing around anti LGBT insults at you. but i know how bad rabid anti SJWs are, they're just as bad as SJWs.
eh, i honestly don't feel like reading all that. i'm tired of repeating myself, i'm tired of having to tell you the same things over and over again, and i'm tired of talking to you, i'm tired of you spouting SJW crap, i'm tired of it all, this is going nowhere, and it needs to end. and no matter what, you still don't get it, no matter what you refuse to understand what i'm trying to say. you continue to act like an edgy tumblr kid, not knowing that you're only doing more harm then good. people who are apart of your community say they're ashamed because of people like you, aren't you embarrassed? do you have no dignity? going on anti hate stamps saying "DIS MAKE MEH CISPHOBIC DUHHH", have you no shame? and seriously? using your age as a shield for criticism, that's just ridiculous, i've met nine year olds more mature, reasonable, and open minded then you. it doesn't matter if you're fourteen, you're still acting nasty, and i have a right to call you out on it.
you are absolutely no better then those who appose you, and mock you. making anti posts about cisgendered people saying they're oppressive "cishits". and you have admitted to mocking, and bullying cis people, you're no better then them, and in doing so you've helped create more negative stigma towards your community, and more hate, hope your proud of yourself. start being more respectful towards others, and you'll get respect in return. but if you act like an asshole, people will be assholes in return, it's that simple. i hope some day you'll grow up and see how ridiculous you're being. and until then, i say good bye. and may our next encounter not be as negative.
good night, and have a good life.
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lmfao i aint gonna read this if you cant bother to read what i say
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kk, see ya, maybe in another life i don't know
if i came of as a dick i do apoligize, i can be pretty bullheaded in an argument. just so you know that's not really me, i'm actually pretty nice.
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...anyway, one thing to say abt this... "but if you act like an asshole, people will be assholes in return," is the exact reason im an asshole to cis ppl.
also ppl tend to act the most themself when they dont know a person, so rly if you think you're bad during arguments, you're just a bad person that hangs out with other bad ppl
edit: this comment was made out of impulse!! please dont think im continuing shit, im just rly badly impulsive and cant keep my mouth shut when i have smth to say, i just wanted to point out smth you didnt seem to understand? ignore if u want
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"is the exact reason im an asshole to cis ppl."
so you turn it into a vicious cycle, that won't end unless someone stops. how about instead of being the person that continues the cycle, you try ENDING the cycle.
"also ppl tend to act the most themself when they dont know a person"
actually, the way others act towards me effects how i act towards them. i act differently around different people. and i'm actually very quiet when i'm with someone i don't know, though i am not a quiet person, so that logic just got thrown out the window.
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y'know i tried that and it still didnt stop. at least now ppl block me so i dont have to deal with them anymore. its not my job as a mentally ill kid to take the hits, i cant handle that. i lash out, its a natural response. i have every right to be angry and spiteful.
you cant make a statement and then once i agree with it suddenly say its wrong???? so THEYRE allowed to be hateful but not me???? THEYRE allowed to kill my community but i cant mumble a joke under my breath?
.....you commented on this post already pissy? i didnt act anyway towards you and you already talked to me like i was lower than you?
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i don't block people unless it's absolutely necessary
don't use mental illness as a shield, that's disgusting, just don't.
i didn't say you were wrong, i said you were making the cycle continue by harassing those who harass you, instead of doing that, end the cycle. kill your enemies with kindness, as they always say.
you were being rude towards others, admitted to bullying and harassment, and i don't respond too politely to those who are rude, it's a major flaw of mine i know it is.
i honestly don't care about jokes, offensive humor is fine, but it's when people use the joke as an excuse to bully and harass others, THAT'S when i have a problem with it. and it seems you've been doing just that, what was the point in writing your original comment? attention? trolling? to see what responses would be? or did you genuinely think you were being funny?
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>im not using it as a shield. im saying "this is why i cant handle this situation."
>honestly fuck you, you're still putting the blame on the minority here, you're still putting the blame on the ANGRY 14-Y/O WHOSE JUST PISSED OFF BC HIS COMMUNITY IS BEING MURDERED AND NO ONE CARES
>i dont harass people? i dont bully people? oh my god cisphobia isnt real? calling people out/calling them transphobic isnt bullying? its actually a nice thing to do so they'll change their behavior? when have i ever harrassed someone? ever?
>it was an impulsive comment bc i was absolutely appauled that this stamp was actually a real thing
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because the stamp says hatting one someone makes you no better then them? LOL because it's true! XD
i think i'm done here, like i said before, i hope one day you stop being such an SJW and grow up.
don't respond, i won't respond either
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When cishets are killed for their gender identity and sexual orientation, you can come crying back to me saying they're the same thing. I understand you can't hold your own argument against a 14-year-old, but try a little harder next time.
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lol
get over yourself, like holy shit XD
have fun bringing more hate to you're community.
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the unironic use of the XD emoticon by an adult is the reason i have ocd
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Congratulations on being an aggravating troll. I hope you're proud of yourself.
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congratulations u played urself
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What a totally relevant quote.
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u def played urself, majestichentaisenpai
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If you say so, boss.
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^^^^ they have a right to be upset. Joke or not, it's still hurtful.
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When I say they I mean cis people
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ah yes i forgot im a transphobe for saying something around you
oh yeah i should've known /s
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"trans ppl disliking their oppressors and making innocent jokes is the excuse i use to hate trans people" yep. totally not transphobic.
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b/c all cis people oppress us... lol ok
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they lit do im.........
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all cis ppl oppress trans ppl thats how oppression fucking works my guy, my pal
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the LITERAL AMOUNT OF BAIT
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ok i know ur obsessed with me and stuff but i dont fuckibg care abt u so
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if you don't care, why bother even replying? replying just to tell me you don't care about me? seems counter intuitive
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SNRK i have ocd my guy i care abt proving u wrong not u urself
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People like you make me want to punch myself.
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that would b p humorous actually so i mean go for it send vids too
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You've literally proven that you have no logic whatsoever in your replies, by now I think you are just baiting.
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They use their supposed illnesses to make their opinions seem like valid facts. I would probably just ignore them, they're a 15 year old who can't pick a gender much less learn something from a credible source. XD
TLDR; They're retarded.
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yeah lol these are the kinds of people that think melanie martinez is "problematic"
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Jeezus
She's an artist making a living off of what she does and they're freaking out over her music videos? Man where is the world going ughhhh
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yeah for the same reasons as this post
apparently she "sexualizes children" LMAO
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Lmao she doesn't though?? Apparently if you dress like a doll as an adult you sexualize children? Wtf?
I think it stems from that retarded book "Lolita". People dress in Lolita, but it has no connection whatsoever to the book "Lolita". Sweet and gothic lolita are alternative fashion styles derived from older times. Melanie draws from sweet lolita regarding her fashion style, so uneducated retards (EX. Kip up there) automatically assume it is a sexualizing children thing when the reality is that they are just in a simple fashion style. And often sweet lolita isn't even anything suggestive.
God people are dumb. Rip
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exactly, but like, she'll do modeling where she'll pose sexually and have or wear some kinds of "kids object" like a pacifier or a teddy bear. that's what gets people upset, but it's still ridiculous... i mean she isn't a minor nor effecting minors
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their outrage only makes me want to draw controversial art more
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