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It's 1 in the morning and I'm tired as hell, but I REALLY wanted to get this picture finished.Alright, as a lot of you have seen, dA has made quite a bit of drastic changes over the course of three months.
The kickstarter was the change of the overall logo (which, by the way, is actually stolen from a Russian website called Platzkart [platzkart.ru/] ). Not only did it confuse a lot of members with the appearance of the Z (for Zeviantart?), but it took away the whole authentic feel to the entire site. If you were to look back on Deviantart's logo history, you would see that it remained pretty consistent. Plus, people would take one glance at it and automatically know what the site was. Today, it just doesn't feel right.
Moving on to the most recent change that made just about every member I've seen snap: The removal of webcams. dA claims that the widget has lost its initial value and those who want to keep that feature were to purchase the Premium Membership. Before the lot of you get on your high horses, I've seen the pros and the cons to this. The Pros include that dA is trying to be progressive, taking away this function allows the site to earn even more money through its users' premium purchases, it takes away some sexual-themed/suggestive content away from the profile pages of users, and it condenses any extremely long profiles (you know, the ones that you REALLY have to scroll down through). The cons include that nobody AT ALL was expecting this, it really impacted negatively to both Premium members and Free-Use members, it lowered the site's reputation for making this choice a reason for an easy cash-grab, it creates an image of "the rich and the poor", and the lack of reaction from dA after a good majority of user outbursts helps confirm these cons, which makes people even angrier.
Third and finally, news has surfaced recently that people could actually get suspended from having inappropriate content in their Sta.sh. Whatever happened to privacy?
Many times, dA would ask for feedback from its users whenever there were site changes. A lot of the time, the comments seem to go unread and the only positive feedback the staff pay attention to are usually the bug reports. What about us Beta Testers? Our job is to basically inform dA of any bugs or to test out something in particular (like the new site format before it became official). We basically test out new things that are on the way, but are left out of any decision making that could particularly impact the community like the new dA logo and the removal of Webcams. The more I've though about this, the more soupy my brain became. So I went back to look at the terms and conditions and I came to realize why a good majority of users seem to be entirely ignored by the staff:
This Service is provided by DeviantArt on an "AS IS" and "AS AVAILABLE" basis and DeviantArt reserves the right to modify, suspend or discontinue the Service, in its sole discretion, at any time and without notice. You agree that DeviantArt is and will not be liable to you for any modification, suspension or discontinuance of the Service.
Translation: You will roll with whatever changes come to dA, no matter how much you dislike it or not.
This was stated in the very beginning of our agreement to becoming a member of Deviantart and we AGREED to that. We AGREED to not whine, complain, or rant about any changes because if we did, it would automatically be ignored. That's why we all feel like we haven't been heard by the staff. The evidence is right there in the Terms and Services, the very thing we didn't bother to read and instead checked off hastily so that we could get on with it and set up our accounts.
My personal opinion: The way things have been made out to be as of late, it almost feel like this website has become a dysfunctional hierarchy. We have the staff, volunteers, the senior members, premiums till hell freezes over, premiums, and the free-users. Basically, it's just the staff and volunteers that make all the decision-making and such while the others are just plain users, though some are more respected than others. But there is one thing that I really want to get out not just for me, but for the sake of other fellow deviants as well:
We have the right to freedom of speech and we deserve to have our voices heard. After all, that is what helped shaped dA's community in the first place. Bring back the community-feel and stop trying to divide this site. Please for once, just LISTEN to what we as members have to say! You have more than enough volunteers and staff members to help run the community. Focus on the people and not just the formatting of the website!
End of my part. It's now 1:30am and I'm very tired. Thank you for bearing with me on this and I'm sorry that this description appears to be such a huge wall of text to some.
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Comments: 260
retr0dude In reply to ??? [2015-03-08 00:36:48 +0000 UTC]
Indeed.
Deviantart has REALLY fallen into chaos.
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JaredRenoir In reply to retr0dude [2015-03-10 22:36:21 +0000 UTC]
Destroying it is much, much better than changing the site.
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lurkar [2015-03-07 13:09:57 +0000 UTC]
"We have the right to freedom of speech"
No, you don't. That applies to government only. Private businesses can do whatever the hell they want and enforce whatever they want.
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Username-91 In reply to lurkar [2015-03-10 10:48:11 +0000 UTC]
Yes we do. Take a better look at boycotts that has been done here in last 3 years, you have been here for 5 years and still you haven't learn anything, haven't you?
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Nylten In reply to lurkar [2015-03-07 17:07:21 +0000 UTC]
Deviantart is not a private business and also resides in America. Your argument is invalid.
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skyclawthewolf [2015-03-04 22:51:42 +0000 UTC]
So wait, dA is supposed to take down any sexual/suggestive art? Then why is there still half naked characters/people on the front page?
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Nylten In reply to skyclawthewolf [2015-03-04 22:57:37 +0000 UTC]
That's the point I'm trying to make, sadly.
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PteraDragon In reply to Nylten [2015-03-05 01:33:18 +0000 UTC]
Da is really messed up >.< they are making the huge mustake commonly made by big companies, ignoring the people who use it the most.
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skyclawthewolf In reply to Nylten [2015-03-04 23:07:34 +0000 UTC]
That's a bit of weird logic dA has.
You have porn in your sta.sh? SUSPENDED!
You have porn on our front page? It's fine, it doesn't matter.
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Nylten In reply to skyclawthewolf [2015-03-07 06:30:09 +0000 UTC]
Pretty much. It's disgusting.
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xElectricWings [2015-03-03 23:58:05 +0000 UTC]
Please tell me if the staff commented on this! It's wonderful
and if they ask you to take it down, they're not allowed to because freedom of speeeeech~ d:
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Nylten In reply to xElectricWings [2015-03-04 04:56:36 +0000 UTC]
So far, the staff have not commented on this.
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xElectricWings In reply to Nylten [2015-03-04 11:08:51 +0000 UTC]
Ugh. Well I hope they do, just as long as they don't ban you.
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Nylten In reply to xElectricWings [2015-03-04 22:35:02 +0000 UTC]
If they ban me for telling the truth, then it shows how ignorant they are.
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xElectricWings In reply to Nylten [2015-03-04 23:47:58 +0000 UTC]
True.
I wish they'd just listen to the community.
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PercipicaciousLoris In reply to ??? [2015-02-27 17:13:22 +0000 UTC]
You are completely right. ive been a member for only a short time, but vie definitely gottenthe feel of what you are saying. you make some very good points. have you presented this to any of the higher ranker in the DA community? Im sure they would be interested in your views, or at least take notice. Maybe not if you did it by yourself, but if you got enough people to back you on this with like minded opinions, I seriously believe you could cause some change
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Luckyducky12 [2015-02-26 21:15:37 +0000 UTC]
Do you want to do something about it? If so I'll be right behind you.
If not i guess im on my own.
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Nylten In reply to Luckyducky12 [2015-02-27 08:16:59 +0000 UTC]
I'm hoping the revolution strengthens. So far, it has slightly begun.
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periclipsa In reply to ??? [2015-02-25 23:08:54 +0000 UTC]
OH AND I LOVE HOW WHEN PEOPLE HARRASS AND SPAM YOU, YOU NOW ARE TOLD TO BLOCK THEM AND THEY DON'T EVEN SUSPEND THE SPAMMER/BULLY. It's so fucking stupid I can't even. What I hate the most is that how my group got closed when I was only trying to make dA a better place.
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Nylten In reply to periclipsa [2015-02-27 08:17:30 +0000 UTC]
I know. I saw. It's very upsetting and this pushes the boundaries.
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periclipsa In reply to Nylten [2015-02-27 11:27:35 +0000 UTC]
Exactly. And this person fuckin spammed 50 comments before I got online and blocked him. I've seen people who get banned for only spamming 10 comments. Unbelieveably unfair. unu
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Username-91 [2015-02-23 18:44:43 +0000 UTC]
It's like, We returned into 1939-1945 era, when Hitler was killing everyone on his way for not agreeing or supporting his sick ideas and a sense of humor that he's been holding in his tiny brain. Now all what We left is to come Russians here to end this shit. [Just like in 2nd world war.] Because 2015 is slowly turning into a clone of 2nd world war. If You know what I mean.
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Nylten In reply to Username-91 [2015-02-23 19:40:27 +0000 UTC]
I definitely get what you mean, but hell, some people on here completely the overall message of this picture and go ahead to block me because this was offensive. :U
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Username-91 In reply to Nylten [2015-02-24 07:40:08 +0000 UTC]
People these days.
[EDIT]:
fav.me/d8jcal7 The real truth about them.
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Username-91 In reply to Nylten [2015-02-26 08:05:59 +0000 UTC]
Take a look at this. comments.deviantart.com/1/5162…
You will be more disgusted than ever.
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maltron66 In reply to ??? [2015-02-19 12:39:40 +0000 UTC]
dA is cool. The admins are the ones who should go home and let people who actually care about the site run things here....
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Nylten In reply to maltron66 [2015-02-23 19:40:45 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, lazy and hypocritical admins...
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SereneDash [2015-02-16 22:10:46 +0000 UTC]
This is great! I'm glad you said the things about changes to the site and the whole premium vs free user thing. I was super confused about the logo too! These are all great points and I wish dA would go back to what it was because I have no idea what the fuck they're trying to do here.
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Nylten In reply to SereneDash [2015-02-16 22:53:54 +0000 UTC]
They're focusing too much on the layout than how the people feel about the site.
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D-Goldenheart [2015-02-13 00:16:38 +0000 UTC]
This is pretty accurate actually. I really thought the old DA symbol was perfect, but it got changed to a Z, because there was something going on the admin's heads that they wanted a Z to represent an art site. I really love this drawing though. Great job on this!!!
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Nylten In reply to D-Goldenheart [2015-02-16 21:35:54 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much! Though it's kinda hilarious that some people have blocked me just because I made this! XD
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D-Goldenheart In reply to Nylten [2015-06-10 17:07:47 +0000 UTC]
I'm so sorry for the late reply! This doesn't usually happen! Haha. Here's a watch just because I like your works, and because it's a peace offering all at the same time! Sorry again! Haha. Keep up the great work!!!
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Nylten In reply to D-Goldenheart [2015-06-13 05:03:47 +0000 UTC]
It's fine and thank you very much!
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D-Goldenheart In reply to Nylten [2015-06-19 01:14:55 +0000 UTC]
Oh no problem! I look forward to seeing what you make in the future!!!
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tigerfaceswe [2015-02-06 17:42:33 +0000 UTC]
Can I express my love for this artwork and its meaning?
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Stinkek In reply to ??? [2015-02-05 16:57:46 +0000 UTC]
"Third and finally, news has surfaced recently that people could actually get suspended from having inappropriate content in their Sta.sh. Whatever happened to privacy?"
Wait, what? I've been uploading NSFW pictures on Sta.sh which could get me banned if I uploaded them here, and nothing happened to them! They're still there!
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IthinkSteve In reply to Stinkek [2015-02-16 21:31:10 +0000 UTC]
Delete them!
I've been suspended for 1 month.
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Stinkek In reply to IthinkSteve [2015-02-16 21:34:34 +0000 UTC]
Oh God.
I better upload them somewhere else.
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Bogdyalive In reply to Stinkek [2015-02-06 13:41:15 +0000 UTC]
"and nothing happened to them!"
Not yet.
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Commander-Dominic In reply to ??? [2015-02-05 03:08:01 +0000 UTC]
It's time for a DA revolution!
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