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KasaixKaru In reply to Hevein [2011-11-06 14:33:39 +0000 UTC]

Now that you point it out, it kind of does!

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Hevein In reply to KasaixKaru [2011-11-06 15:42:54 +0000 UTC]

Eheh, it's not a famous deity but it's a badass one imho.
I think I'll find other connections, as finnish gods are almost all nature/animals-linked!
Keep on working, it's beautiful!

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KasaixKaru In reply to Hevein [2011-11-06 19:23:02 +0000 UTC]

I know. Finland is such a nature-inspired country. So peaceful and full of natural wonder. I'm so happy I live here.

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Hevein In reply to KasaixKaru [2011-11-06 19:57:14 +0000 UTC]

Isn't it? I'm going to move there at the end of the university, I'm studying finnish and finno-ungaric language and literature. Also, I'm planning to do a trip to Tampere and Helsinki next summer .

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pascalblanche In reply to daounin [2011-04-18 22:42:57 +0000 UTC]

ca y est c,est plus une gonzesse maintenant

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daounin In reply to pascalblanche [2011-04-20 08:45:34 +0000 UTC]

arf, j'espère que l'opération n'a pas été trop délicate pour elle ...
j'aimais bien son coté virile ça me rappelait ma maman ...
joli taff

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Quasfiel In reply to lone-wolf-boudin [2011-04-18 21:50:47 +0000 UTC]

"the fact that you turn it into a she is not schocking at all
gods are changing entity"

I disagree. Try to imagine Thor, Zeus into a woman body...

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SylphiEngel In reply to Quasfiel [2011-11-07 07:33:22 +0000 UTC]

Zeus changed into a COW, a CLOUD, and a SWAN... but a female is hard to imagine?

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Quasfiel In reply to SylphiEngel [2011-11-11 00:38:49 +0000 UTC]

So... You are saying that, in all the mythology, he never "actually" changed into a woman?

Maybe it's a question of readability for some of the ancient civilisations that gods and godesses are not used to change their gender.

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SylphiEngel In reply to Quasfiel [2011-11-11 08:01:20 +0000 UTC]

1. Purposefully misconstruing the other person's point in order to lie about what they said is generally considered trolling.

2. Zeus transformed himself into a woman in order to rape Callisto.

3. Odin and Loki both transformed themselves into women. Loki bore and nursed two children, Odin's horse and the wolf Fenrir.

4. The Roman god Vertumnus transformed into a woman to woo Pomona.

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Quasfiel In reply to SylphiEngel [2011-11-12 13:13:33 +0000 UTC]

My point is, the basic representations of these gods are still men; they use transformations into women like magic tricks, they didn't stayed into their women bodies for long. It's basically just disguises, man with woman clothes. Gods are changing entities, right. But they have gender identities.
Basically, Zeus will be still represented like a man. With a beard, and lightnings. As Loki and Odin, Ares, Hephaistos, Hades, Dyonisos... And Athena, Hestia, Hera, Aphrodite, Demeter, will be represented as women. These stories are told to boast the intelligence and malice of the gods, their powers. Like the story where Thor is disguised in Freya turned into Loki making lies, again and again, to hide Thor true identity to the future husband of Freya. Funny story, but that's all.
Here, Cernunnos is represented as a woman. Indeed, "close to nature gods", especially from celtic mythology wich is less known than greek or nordic mythologies seems to me much more ambivalent, like ~lone-wolf-boudin said. But this feature does not apply so well to other gods and godesses. Just my opinion.

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SylphiEngel In reply to Quasfiel [2011-11-13 08:25:55 +0000 UTC]

"All religions are different" is a fine point if you want to make it, but it's not the point you were making. No one said anything about Zeus or Cernunnos transforming permanently into something else, only that old gods transformed quite often, into a wide variety of forms--including female.

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Quasfiel In reply to SylphiEngel [2011-11-13 13:37:32 +0000 UTC]

Indeed, my point isn't that, that's why I picked examples from two european religions. My point is, these gods are represented like men, and godesses are women. Indeed, they can transform themselves. But there is a difference between a thing and its representation. If you represent a god like a man, nobody will ask why. But if you represent him as a woman, (I think) there can be three reasons:

-You want to practice your skills and make a fine piece of art, like Cernunnos here.
-It's in a story, and there will be context: the god changed himself into a woman, for some time, for some reason. But at the end of the story, he will probably be back into a man body. Or not, but because he can't, or he made a decision, or..
-You decide to represent a god as a woman. Why not, that's your decision, it's a question of style, and that won't change the canon. But basically, that's pointless and just for style.

Most of the Gods can disguise themselves, but (my point is) Gods are not changing entities considering they mostly remain linked to their gender, at least in people's mind. That's why I disagreed in the first time. I'm done.

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lone-wolf-boudin In reply to Quasfiel [2011-04-18 23:44:06 +0000 UTC]

ok so close-to-the-nature (forest, fields, ...) gods

anyway, let's make critiques about the deviation

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