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Description Thank You and act now!

images: royalty free stock photo/image bank CD Collection


Thx a lot for all the comments and faves, really appreciate it
Ferdi Rizkiyanto

I GOT A DD!!!!!!!
(This work was suggested by erzorvadur, =K-lenx, ullface, =Starlightie, =NightIce and *little-billie
Featured by ^NunoDias )

Thank You!


update: yes, you have my permission to use this artwork, as long as you don't alter it and give a proper credential.

one of the references:
Global Warming 101 video from National Geographic: [link]
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Comments: 1873

BlueWolfDreaming [2015-11-03 05:02:51 +0000 UTC]

This is a well-deserved Β DD ! And a beautiful work of art ! Thanks for participating in the fight to save our only home - the Planet Earth ! Β And thanks also for the link to the National Geographic videos, I did enjoy spending a few hours watching them.Β  Β Β Β 

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rame20002007 [2015-09-13 16:41:25 +0000 UTC]

A really good image.Β 

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SkyFire33 [2015-09-12 20:18:59 +0000 UTC]

Nice picture. While global warming is obviously happening, is it really this big a problem? I'm curious, how much faster is this happening than other changes in climate in the past? Are we humans the only cause of it? I'll probably do my own research, but I've heard some things about global warming I'll have to double check with some research first.

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BudCharles In reply to SkyFire33 [2015-11-06 12:33:50 +0000 UTC]

All good questions, glad I stumbled across this XD As someone who is a major paleontology (prehistory) nerd, I am in a good position to answer them XD One thing though, don't just take my word for this, go look up some scientific sources and come to your own conclusions - emphasis on scientific though, not some nutter with a fake degree xD

"Is it really this big a problem?"
Yes, it's about as big a problem as you can get, at least from a human point of view. There's no way our society will make it through the next 1,000 years if climate change goes unstopped. Why? Well I'll talk about this more in the next answer but the closest example we have to modern climate change was the Permian Extinction, and that caused 90% of ocean life and 70% of land life to die out. If that happened today, our seafood industry would crash, our coastal cities would be flooded and most importantly of all our farmland would dry up. Without agriculture, we have nothing to power our society - government, economy, law, all of this is built on top of agriculture and climate change will bring it all back down.

"I'm curious, how much faster is this happening than other changes in climate in the past?"
I wish more people were curious! Curiosity and open-mindedness is the reason we have electricity, medicine and computers. It's the reason we ventured to Europe, America and even the Moon. We need curiosity more than ever right now. But on to the main question - how much faster is it happening? Well most changes in climate have been extremely slow in the past. Right now we are still technically living in an "ice-house" climate, and it took a staggering 50 MILLION years to go from a greenhouse climate with an average temperature of 23 degrees Celsius to an ice-house climate with an average of 15. That's 0.16 degrees every million years.
So that's normal background change - what about some exceptional events? Well the best example that comes to mind is the Permian Extinction event. At the end of the Permian period, 250 million years ago (a few million years before the first dinosaurs), the average temperature was 16 degrees Celsius - fairly normal, pretty much the same as it is now. But a series of massive 'flood basalt' eruptions occurred in what is now Siberia, and as a result massive amounts of Carbon Dioxide were released. The temperature increased by 8 degrees in a few hundred thousand years, and it happened so fast that life just couldn't adapt. A staggering 7 out of 10 animals on land and 9 out of 10 in the sea were obliterated forever.
So that's a rare and exceptional event - what about modern climate change. That's where it gets scary. Normal changes take tens of millions of years. Rapid changes take hundreds of thousands. The average temperature today however is expected to rise 5 degrees Celsius in ONE HUNDRED YEARS! That's insane! The temperature change that should take 31 million years will happen in a single lifetime! And that's far faster than life - even humans - can possibly adapt. That's why we need to act now, to stabilize the change, or at the very least drastically slow it down. 2 degrees by the end of the century would buy us more time, it's still insanely fast, but not unstoppable. Reversing a rise of more than 2 degrees would be beyond the power of our current technology, and at that point we'd be pretty much stuffed.

"Are we humans the only cause of it?"
Almost certainly. I say "almost" because natural cycles may have a small effect, but only tiny. Like I said, on average it's about 0.16 degrees every million years, whereas the change measured since the late 1800s has been on average a rise of 0.80 degrees in less than two centuries. The vast majority of climate change at the moment is caused by humans, and if we hadn't been polluting the atmosphere, we would've measured only a minuscule change. In fact the Earth may have naturally been getting slightly colder as we're in the middle of an 'interglacial' and naturally we should slowly transition into another ice age in the next ten thousand or so years. Instead what we're seeing is rapid warming that has really never been seen before, on the scale of human lifetimes, and by far the best explanation for that is humans. Graphs of the temperature increase match perfectly with the growth of human industry and global human population, while they don't match solar cycles or the Earth's orbital position.

Thanks for asking and I hope you found these answers useful :3

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SkyFire33 In reply to BudCharles [2015-11-06 18:40:37 +0000 UTC]

Wow. Thank you. This is very informative indeed. I honestly didn't expect an answer at all, and if I did get one I thought it would more along the lines of,"Duh. Of course it's happening stupid! "

Honestly I'm just a little bit skeptical about climate change. I agree, we need to take measures to end pollution and try to conserve our climate as much as we can because it's to our best interest as organisms trying to survive in this life. But there's things I've heard about and read that seem to counteract our take on climate change. I've heard in the news recently that Antarctica is actually gaining ice, and was once told that plants are capable of balancing out
our CO2 production. I'm just uncertain of it.

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BudCharles In reply to SkyFire33 [2015-11-07 03:18:26 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome Usually I am a bit confrontational with people, but I could tell you were genuinely asking a question rather than just showing off or parroting something someone else told you, so I thought since you asked a genuine question I should give a genuine answer.

Well the news is a really bad source of information on science (or anything really). They tend to over-hype things to get more viewers, and they also tend to say things that will make their investors happy. As mining companies have more money than scientists, it's pretty clear who the news is going to lean towards.

Specifically though, what the news often does is pick up some short-term regional thing (e.g. Antarctica has more ice over the last few years, America had a particularly cold Winter, etc.) and ignores the long term trends that occur over tens, hundreds and thousands of years. And fair enough, that's because short-term weather events are more exciting and simple to report on than long-term climatic trends - but that's just the problem, because climate change is long term. On any climate graph , or any graph of a long term trend in general, there are little spikes up and down - but it's the overall direction we have to look at.

As for plants - well not at the moment, there's simply not enough of them. But planting more trees, as simple as it sounds, could be an incredibly good solution for climate change. They don't cost very much, they don't require any experimental technologies or lifestyle changes, they're actually a really good idea. They wouldn't completely solve the issue but if we stopped cutting down forests and started replanting them, that could have a significant impact. The more we get trees to do the work for us, the less effort we have to put in to cutting our own emissions. Just planting a couple of trees in a park won't have an effect though, I am talking about replanting entire forests here, but even that's still a lot easier than trying to fight against the coal and oil lobbies

And in fact there are again prehistoric examples to show how effective trees are at changing the climate. In the Devonian period, when the very first trees evolved and there were no large herbivores to keep them under control, there were actually so many trees that they started an ice age and caused an extinction event! That wouldn't happen now because we have large herbivores (unless we end up hunting them all to extinction), but trees could definitely have a major balancing effect against our emissions. We just need a lot more trees.

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SkyFire33 In reply to BudCharles [2015-11-08 08:05:35 +0000 UTC]

I can't say if I was parroting or not; but my whole skepticism probably comes my my immediate family, who aren't nearly as concerned about the Β environment I am at times. I'm seriously just really unsure of what to think about climate change. Trees would be very good to plant in cities. I can imagine that if every major city has something like central park in New York, or looked more like Washington D.C, there may be enough plants. I'm serious, D.C has trees everywhere, and its the most beautiful place I've seen in my fairly short life.Β 

I need to look into extinctions more. I love prehistory, and can probably talk your ears off about dinosaurs and evolution and etc. etc. but I you made me realize I know next to nothing about mass extinctions.

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BudCharles In reply to SkyFire33 [2015-11-08 11:05:42 +0000 UTC]

Trust me, you weren't just parroting, you were asking genuine questions and wanted a genuine answer. A lot of the time people just want to start an argument and I can see that you didn't want to do that, you legitimately wanted to learn something so you can make balanced decisions in the future, and everyone, including me, should probably have that attitude more often :3

And yes, even putting climate change aside, trees are a big improvement for any city landscape. People actually are happier when surrounded by a higher diversity of plants and animals, no one is really sure why but it has been shown to be the case. I'm not a psychology person so I'm not the best person to explain that but yeah, in any case, planting trees is a good idea in general, as long as they're not near power lines XD

That's awesome, I wish more people were interested in prehistory. A lot of people don't take it seriously and I think part of the issue is they don't see it as relevant to the modern world, but actually it's highly relevant. What prehistory shows us is a case study of pretty much any major event you can think of, global warming, global cooling, invasive species, impacts from space, supervolcanoes, high radiation levels - whatever it is, prehistory gives us a detailed case study of it, and now that we have the power to influence these kinds of things, understanding them in more detail will be a huge help to us as a society.

Honestly I think prehistory should be a compulsory subject in schools, I mean surely where we came from and how we can prepare for the future is something worth knowing for the general public, especially in a democracy like Australia or America!

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SkyFire33 In reply to BudCharles [2015-11-09 00:44:16 +0000 UTC]

I wish I had that attitude more often about a lot of things, I argue constantly about politics with some people. I get annoyed with certain political views a few of my friends have. XD

If they had prehistory as a course in school, I would be dying to take it instead of government, but government's probably only made boring to me because all we do is copy notes from the board. Thank you, I'll be thinking about this a lot now probably. D.C probably has a better climate for plant diversity than most cities in the U.S. I'm pretty sure it was founded on a swamp. Oh, and I love the landscape surrounding it. I remember staring at the hills and forest all around us, actually wondering at times if we were riding past mountains, but....we weren't.

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BudCharles In reply to SkyFire33 [2015-11-09 10:58:37 +0000 UTC]

At least you get government We don't do prehistory at all, and government is an optional part of an optional subject so only 1 in 20 kids ends up learning about the system they're voting in and the parties they're voting for - and we wonder why we get bad politicians.

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SkyFire33 In reply to BudCharles [2015-11-11 03:59:20 +0000 UTC]

Well, freshmen in our highschool have to take it for one semester then we switch to consumer ed. It's very interesting. I mean, I know it would be if our teacher did more than drone on and on and just have us copy notes on the board.Β 

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Pupaveg [2015-09-01 12:55:15 +0000 UTC]

It's weird that people keep blaming vehicles for global warming while all vehicles together only account for 13% of all CO2 emmissions while the meat industry is the leading cause with 51%.

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BudCharles In reply to Pupaveg [2015-11-06 12:35:35 +0000 UTC]

That's why I'm hugely on board with lab-grown meat. Takes up less space, causes less pollution, doesn't involve killing or suffering, it's a win-win-win situation. I bet some conservative idiots will complain it isn't "real" though, even though it's exactly the same end product even on a microscopic level.

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Pupaveg In reply to BudCharles [2015-11-11 12:13:29 +0000 UTC]

I completely support Patrick Brown's lab grown meat, because it's healthier and better for the environment than the other lab meats (which are still environmentally destructive and do require animal deaths). They say that Patricks' might be done next year and is even cheaper than regular meat, but without the cholesterol and the crap like antibiotics etc. Whoo-hoo! I'm going to try it for sure! As for people who say that lab meat isn't "real" or "natural"... it's not that breeding billions of genetically manipulated animals that are pumped full of growth hormones, steroids and antibiotics is any more natural. It's not that cooking meat and drinking the breast milk of another species in adulthood is more natural. And neither is destroying the environment and complete rainforests to create space to grow crops meant to fatten up cattle is natural.

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BudCharles In reply to Pupaveg [2015-11-12 05:37:22 +0000 UTC]

Next year? I thought it would take until the 2020s, that's awesome news! The meat industry is so dirty, I feel so bad for supporting them all these years, I mean they have poisoned people, they've polluted the air, they basically commit animal genocide on a daily basis and they're contributing to antibiotic-resistant superbugs that could kill millions of people. Not to mention how they exploit farmers and factory workers. The end of the meat industry will be one of the greatest moments in human history, it won't happen overnight, but it can start now. If climate change is the great disaster of the 21st century, then ending the meat industry is the great triumph.

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Pupaveg In reply to BudCharles [2015-11-16 20:32:16 +0000 UTC]

Totally agree! Can't wait to try the new stuff <3

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AlicornGamer In reply to Pupaveg [2015-10-30 08:48:22 +0000 UTC]

yup. Car/vehicles are a big problem, bout cows-witch produces green house gases methane, and keeping pigs also is a big problem. But if people wouldn't rush every where and get a bus ticket, we'll be helping a little bit also.

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Pupaveg In reply to AlicornGamer [2015-11-11 12:13:56 +0000 UTC]

All little bits help.

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AmphotericZenki In reply to ??? [2015-07-21 12:48:55 +0000 UTC]

I've seen this several times and felt lead to comment today, as we've set yet another record high in global temperatures for the month of June. Broke the record last year, and we've broke it again this year. My friends and even family have mocked me for years about these issues. I'm sure many others have felt the same way, but don't lose hope. The evidence is becoming more and more popular and we will make a difference. Slow progression is still progression.Β 

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mechulkedi In reply to ??? [2015-07-04 10:13:34 +0000 UTC]

amazing design

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Red5eptember In reply to ??? [2015-06-12 03:50:00 +0000 UTC]

What an amazing piece, with an even grander message. Love it!

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XLoveLesX In reply to ??? [2015-06-07 08:45:30 +0000 UTC]

gdbye floirda, gdbye new orleans, gdbye new york...hello great mississippi waterway! don't mind me, im friggin nutzΒ 

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blackops-kaelygarcia In reply to ??? [2015-06-06 19:04:36 +0000 UTC]

Fears of those living in florida Β 

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Saraeustace91 In reply to ??? [2015-04-19 10:57:38 +0000 UTC]

Different, i like it

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xSkULLFR In reply to ??? [2015-04-19 10:05:16 +0000 UTC]

Awesome! Your creation is very smart and is a great idea!

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retrohGamr In reply to ??? [2015-04-18 17:41:11 +0000 UTC]

just so yall know, i've learn in my physics class and from staring at my mcdonalds iced water, that when ice is in water and melts, the water level drops due to the way the density in ice and water are different. in conclusion, if the ice in the ocean melts the water levels would drop. However, if the ice on the land in the northern and southern region melts, the water levels would rise.

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Clarishy In reply to ??? [2015-04-17 06:49:54 +0000 UTC]

Come one guys, use science with this. As much as I learned from science classes ice falls apart and melts all the time it's normal.

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harrim9564 In reply to ??? [2015-04-15 15:36:42 +0000 UTC]

Omg omg omg

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LoveroftheAngels In reply to ??? [2015-04-14 03:28:37 +0000 UTC]

So deep...

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ReaderOfFanfic In reply to ??? [2015-04-13 02:16:44 +0000 UTC]

Awesome artwork and great message.

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noT94 In reply to ??? [2015-04-12 13:57:23 +0000 UTC]

Amazing and imaginative

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harunist In reply to ??? [2015-04-11 19:18:03 +0000 UTC]

Brilliant.

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lopololo In reply to ??? [2015-04-09 19:12:20 +0000 UTC]

Looks a lot like one of yuumei's art pieces hmm -_-

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Zarokin In reply to lopololo [2015-09-25 19:46:46 +0000 UTC]

Late, but this picture came out two years before Yuumei's. Yuumei even stated it on her own piece.

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thousten In reply to lopololo [2015-04-17 16:24:19 +0000 UTC]

Yuumei's came out after this (:

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OOQuant In reply to lopololo [2015-04-17 00:44:25 +0000 UTC]

Indeed

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Starrless-Obscurity In reply to lopololo [2015-04-11 19:11:13 +0000 UTC]

haha that's exactly what I said when I first saw this.

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taroboba In reply to ??? [2015-04-09 12:53:59 +0000 UTC]

It's wonderful, but highly unoriginal. Still, the message remains strong.

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taroboba In reply to taroboba [2015-04-09 12:56:16 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I found out that yuumei's came out after this. I'm sorry, how rude of me

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sofia2134 [2015-04-08 15:57:19 +0000 UTC]

FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELS HELL YEAH

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LewdCoffee [2015-04-06 00:20:14 +0000 UTC]

Screw those albino bears and their ice. If the ice caps on the north were to melt nothing would happen as the weight of the ice already factors into the water level so it is just the damn bears we are saving.

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allanmanhire [2015-04-03 20:12:20 +0000 UTC]

creative, well done

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ORear [2015-04-02 01:39:38 +0000 UTC]

But wont the fallen ice chunks block the water?

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aviduser In reply to ORear [2015-04-13 06:04:30 +0000 UTC]

Your signature...

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ORear In reply to aviduser [2015-04-13 14:15:40 +0000 UTC]

From a while ago and too lazy to change it

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aviduser In reply to ORear [2015-04-13 19:21:05 +0000 UTC]

It'll a little crooked. I noticed mine looked like yours and had to add a symbol our two to get it to like better

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Mr-inaf [2015-03-29 15:08:24 +0000 UTC]

This Work Verry Good, I Like Your Concept.

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ev1lp1nk [2015-03-17 16:26:11 +0000 UTC]

INCREDIBLE.

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fakemaster2014 [2015-03-14 21:57:59 +0000 UTC]

it's true

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Deikin [2015-03-13 15:42:37 +0000 UTC]

You should do a version without the text.

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