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I refuse to give up on my otp. I feel like I've invested so much time; I've supported Narusaku since I was in the 5th grade! (I'm a freshman in college now!)All us Narusaku fans can do is sit back and wait; given the rest of the series, we're bound to have more moments...
PLEASE KISHIMOTO HEAR OUR CRIES.
drawing © *Pomarosa
textures found on google.
ps. yes, I kinda redid an old deviantion lol
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waywardgal In reply to ??? [2013-01-05 17:16:38 +0000 UTC]
it was konohamaru not kimimaro. this is going to be my last post because i'll probably get blocked on this for spamming by DA, but closing points.
1. Sakura was made fun of for having a big forehead. I heardly call that hard core bullying
2. Sakura gave up her friendship with Ino over a boy
3. Sakura is confused. she doesn't know what she wants.
4. She "confessed" to Naruto as a method to manipulate him. (I was done with her after this, honestly)
5. When shit hit the fan, Sakura stayed, and it was Hinata who rushed to protect Naruto during Pain arc.
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Heartrita In reply to waywardgal [2013-01-05 18:22:54 +0000 UTC]
nya wrong name e.e
1. well let's see if you get bullied how you would feel , furthermore girls tend to get upset really quick - bullying is horrible even if it's just calling something like "Big forehead" , it will hurt your soul - so there are no levels like "hardcore bullying" .. it's ALWAYS horrible
2. because she was a young stupid girl , yet she wanted to change that when she fought against ino e.e I think you missed the point there ... they realized that it was stupid .. I myself believe that it was stupid i mean it's just a boy who seems to be good looking SO wtf xD friends are more important
3. yes sakura is confused especially on the confession part, she wanted to save naruto ... I think you saw that she was mentally broken, she didn't meant to manipulate him she wanted to keep him in the village and she wanted him to break the promise of lifetime e_e
and your last point... hinata wanted to sacrifice herself lol that was so stupid of her.. I MEAN SRSLY not even naruto can do anything against him but there you go .. dying without a point e.e anyways HEAVEN AnD EARTH bridge
Sakura was running towards naruto when he went 4 tails so please :')
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Pomarosa In reply to ??? [2013-01-05 05:50:28 +0000 UTC]
Again, I'm confused. Did you forget that Sakura was bullied as a child just like Naruto? Hinata was the daughter of a prestigious clan leader and had an extremely talented little sister. She wasn't bullied by her classmates like Naruto or Sakura. Furthermore, Naruto, Sakura, and even Hinata have all striven to become stronger. All three of them were weak. And of course Hinata and Naruto would have the same values! SHE IDOLIZES HIM AND COPIED HIS BELIEFS.
Also considering the fact that Naruto and Sakura have "experienced" pretty much more than half of the manga together I would definitely say that they have most of the same experiences. Heartbreak, growing stronger, despair.... They both have gone through SO MUCH.
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waywardgal In reply to Pomarosa [2013-01-05 17:16:52 +0000 UTC]
this is going to be my last post because i'll probably get blocked on this for spamming by DA, but closing points.
1. Sakura was made fun of for having a big forehead. I heardly call that hard core bullying
2. Sakura gave up her friendship with Ino over a boy
3. Sakura is confused. she doesn't know what she wants.
4. She "confessed" to Naruto as a method to manipulate him. (I was done with her after this, honestly)
5. When shit hit the fan, Sakura stayed, and it was Hinata who rushed to protect Naruto during Pain arc.
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mockingjayyy In reply to ??? [2013-01-04 03:43:56 +0000 UTC]
my, aren't you just a johnny rain cloud...
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inukaglove In reply to ??? [2013-01-04 02:07:57 +0000 UTC]
That is so cute. I love it. Keep up the good work. Narusaku fans of the world unite.
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MouseyPeach [2013-01-04 00:30:56 +0000 UTC]
YOURE BACK!!!! *TACKLES WITH LOVE* I MISSED YOU!!!
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Pomarosa In reply to MouseyPeach [2013-01-04 00:42:03 +0000 UTC]
MEWWWWw College, Work, and my boyfriend are extremely time consuming.... I almost didn't remember how to blend in SAI XD
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MouseyPeach In reply to Pomarosa [2013-01-04 02:51:51 +0000 UTC]
I havent used sai xD I want to give up digital work for now xD I'm not getting any better xD
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PhoenixofLife In reply to ??? [2013-01-04 00:14:51 +0000 UTC]
Yes~ I just can't see Naruto hooking up with someone that has only interacted with him for about .5% of the entire series. There is just no build up, nothing.
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metaXzero In reply to PhoenixofLife [2013-01-04 04:10:29 +0000 UTC]
I know not every ship is loved, but it's a bit much to say Naruhina had no build up. Plus, the manga isn't over. There is time for more. Especially in light of recent events.
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PhoenixofLife In reply to metaXzero [2013-01-04 07:02:16 +0000 UTC]
but from the start of the manga until this point, where has it been? Don't count the multiple nonsense fillers in the anime, because they are not canon. Naruto fought for eliminating the unfairness in the Hyuuga Clan, and Hinata is only there because Neji needed someone to take his frustration out on. You feel pity for her because she's weak in her father's eyes. Once Neji's darkness has been eliminated, and His uncle's eyes cleared, Hinata pretty much fades into a background character. She's like Ino. She simply is there for others to be propelled forward. She is then used again as a stepping stool for Naruto to awaken the Kyuubi. Naruto sees a comrade fall protecting him, instead of him doing the protecting, and loses it. It is the same with Neji. He loses his life, and now Naruto will move forward once more.
That is all Hinata's involvement with Naruto in the manga. She should open her eyes to the one who is just like her, watching someone they care for in the background, never being noticed. Her and Kiba are much more likely to be together than she and Naruto.
Sakura on the other hand, has grown with Naruto. When she saw what lengths he went to to help bring back sasuke, her snarky attitude disappeared, and even moreso before that when he saved her life when dealing with Gaara. Because of him and his determination, she moved forward and learned medical ninjutsu to protect the others, and most of all, Naruto, and he vowed to get stronger to bring sasuke back for her. She became protective of him when dealing with the kyuubi, and even Sai and Yamato have commented on her feeling towards Naruto. She is determined to help him achieve his goals. She even went so far to try and kill sasuke so that the pain in Naruto's heart concerned about her own emotions would fade.
Surely this manga is almost over. There will only be one real arc left after this one, and that is the one concerning Sasuke. If it goes on any longer, it's just being milked, and will dive into failure. I cannot see much more of the Naruhina relationship moving past this sign of friendship. It was terribly written in for a "birthday" present for Hinata and her fans, and it is sad that her character is only there to appease the fanbase as a possible date for naruto instead of her own personal character to move the story forward in such a way that wasn't a obvious ploy by the editor to keep the ship wars high and intrigued. It's sad to see this manga be swayed in such a way.
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donjoseph19 In reply to PhoenixofLife [2013-01-04 17:46:40 +0000 UTC]
Nice post men, that was so deep.
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Pomarosa In reply to PhoenixofLife [2013-01-04 16:05:14 +0000 UTC]
Hahaha, well said. But come on, we both know that the manga still has another 200+ chapters XD
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metaXzero In reply to PhoenixofLife [2013-01-04 12:48:43 +0000 UTC]
The Naruhina fandom actually managed to make a pretty good manifesto for covering all Naruhina moments and development.
[link] . It's big but it kinda needs to be. Give it a read sometime. It is true that there are large streaks of time where the Naruhina trail goes cold. But it's never undone and Kishi always eventually gets back to it. Also Kiba seems to support Naruhina himself.
As for Sakura, we know she cares about Naruto deeply. That can't be denied. But the romantic development basically came to a head with the confession which the events of it pretty confirmed that as much as she cares for Naruto, she still loves Sasuke. On top of that, Naruto knows that and unlike the old Naruto (who was constantly pining for just a date) the current Naruto completely refused Sakura's advances and told her he hates when people lie to themselves. Since then, we haven't seen anything else for NaruSaku. But of course, the manga is not over.
I gotta ask though. What was so "terribly written" about 615? Hinata did this thing long ago (pulling Naruto out of a depressing funk with a pep talk). The only difference here is that it was in front of an audience.
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PhoenixofLife In reply to metaXzero [2013-01-04 17:04:29 +0000 UTC]
That they do, and those points in that essay were well thought out and highlighted. I can't agree that Kiba completely supports their relationship though.
As for the Sakura thing, it has far from came to a head. Naruto did say that he hates it when people lie to themselves, but she did that for him. It was not the best way to stop him, and he saw through her deception, but the confession wasn't completely nonsense. It was just placed in the most inappropriate place, same as Hinata's. Although they are ninja, going after Sasuke causes Naruto twice as much pain as any normal ninja, and she knows that, especially after seeing what the transformation did to him. She can't stand to see him in such misery. Sakura hides most of her emotions through her fierce actions, and Kakashi even said she knew their decision would hurt him. This Sakura thing won't conclude until the end of Sasuke's and Naruto's battle.
I say it's terirble writing because of the lack of reaction from others. Neji is dead, so why did we only get a quick, bland flash of team guy? Why wasn't there more support from the others instead of it becoming a hinata monologe? It was a full chapter made for the sole purpose of being a treat to focus on her instead of focusing on the full effect of what had just happened. It wasn't even about Naruto. He just sort of listened and was like "yeah." It is not the first chapter that I thought was poorly written, such as the revival of the leaf village and pain/ nagato turning back to the light in the pain arc and pretty much all of Danzo's arc.
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metaXzero In reply to PhoenixofLife [2013-01-04 19:02:46 +0000 UTC]
At the very least Kiba likes to tease Hinata about it (and not in a malicious way). And as when the Shinobi Alliance caught up with Naruto and company, Kiba threw some of that teasing Naruto's way (the line about Naruto not needing to act cool just because Hinata is there).
Hinata's confession was just her justifying to Naruto why she was going so far to protect him (and in case she didn't survive). It's a pretty fair placing of a confession as far as fiction is concerned. Sakura's though had the intent of getting Naruto to stop chasing Sasuke. Even if Sakura has some romantic feelings for Naruto, she wasn't making the confession to express them. It was for Naruto's sake rather than her own. And then there's Sakura's undying feelings for Sasuke to further muddy the waters. I still have no clue how Kishi is going to resolve this.
I'll admit, the lack of focus on Team Guy is disappointing (even if we rarely got team interaction of them, we know they'd feel Neji's death more than most characters). But as for the pep talk being dominated by Hinata, I wouldn't say that's "terrible". Hinata was the closest one to Naruto (thus being the character who'd have the "easiest time" starting the process of snapping Naruto out of his funk). And by being the one who started the conversation, it's only natural she'd have the spotlight of it. Kishi could've thrown in more than just Kurama to add support to what Hinata was saying (Sakura or Kakashi would be the most predictable candidates), but ultimately that was Hinata's moment once she slapped Naruto and started her speech.
Naruto does have some poor chapters though. The ones you mentioned especially.
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AngelNeko In reply to PhoenixofLife [2013-01-04 02:01:52 +0000 UTC]
I agree with you. I can't see Naruhina happening. There's not enough support to back it. Narusaku however, has had a lot more development.
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metaXzero In reply to AngelNeko [2013-01-04 04:15:17 +0000 UTC]
For all it's development, NaruSaku has one major obstacle that IDK if it can overcome.
Sasuke.
Sakura still longs for Sasuke and Naruto refuses to be Sakura's silver trophy.
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AngelNeko In reply to metaXzero [2013-01-04 16:25:58 +0000 UTC]
True. Only time will tell if she gets over him and realizes that Naruto was the one who was always there for her.
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metaXzero In reply to AngelNeko [2013-01-04 18:18:32 +0000 UTC]
But she knows Naruto is there for her. She knows Naruto has that long standing crush on her. She even offered herself to Naruto. She admires Naruto and wants to be as helpful to him as he is to her. It's just that despite all that, she romantically desires Sasuke. And Naruto knows that.
In a way, it's kinda like Jiraiya and Tsunade. Jiraiya had his own love for Tsunade and was always there for her. Tsunade knew about Jiraiya's feelings and she cared deeply for Jiraiya too (hearing about Jiraiya's death did bring Tsunade to tears). But in their 50+ years of life, they never got together.
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AngelNeko In reply to metaXzero [2013-01-04 19:29:46 +0000 UTC]
I don't believe that it's going to end up like Jiraya and Tsunade thought. I think that in the end, Sakura will give an honest confession and Naruto will confess his own feelings about her.
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metaXzero In reply to AngelNeko [2013-01-04 19:47:24 +0000 UTC]
As said though, before any NaruSaku can come in, Sakura first needs to get over her feelings for Sasuke. Considering how long those feelings have persisted now (despite what Sasuke has become and the more limited and hostile interaction with Sakura), it's really hard to say if she will move on. Tsunade never moved on from Dan.
I don't like using parallels too much though. They are all their own characters after all.
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PhoenixofLife In reply to metaXzero [2013-01-04 07:11:21 +0000 UTC]
that's right, it's the one obstacle that would have to be overcome. Considering how easily all the other obstacles seem to be overcome "Reviving villages, dead people, having full blown conversations with his dead parents" this love triangle would be the impossible. >__>
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metaXzero In reply to PhoenixofLife [2013-01-04 12:59:05 +0000 UTC]
Come on now. This isn't an obstacle that can just be punched to death. I wouldn't just say that they could easily get past it just because they do superhuman feats.
As it stands, Sakura still loves Sasuke and won't be with Naruto outside of pity and an attempt to get him to stop chasing Sasuke. Naruto refuses Sakura because he doesn't want to be with him if she's still pining for Sasuke nor does he want pity love from her. They have to resolve the Sasuke issue and rebuild from the damage of Sakura's confession before they can be a couple. But as I said, IDK if they will be able to do that. Simply killing Sasuke off isn't the answer.
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donjoseph19 In reply to metaXzero [2013-01-04 06:42:07 +0000 UTC]
So for you is OK that Hinata becomes Naruto silver trophy, just forced down the fans throats 2 minutes after Neji died, while with his dying words he guilt tripping Naruto?
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metaXzero In reply to donjoseph19 [2013-01-04 13:05:45 +0000 UTC]
My previous post had nothing to do with Naruhina. Though please don't say Neji was guilt tripping Naruto or that he died for Naruhina. There are way too many fools in the Naruhina fandom who say that and it's sickening. Neji died for the village, the success of the war, and for 2 people who he once viewed as failures, but now views as loved ones (especially Naruto who was the one who got him out of his initial darkness in Part 1).
I wouldn't call the Naruhina moments in 615 forced. But again, my previous post wasn't about Naruhina.
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donjoseph19 In reply to metaXzero [2013-01-04 17:36:01 +0000 UTC]
Dode there was no build up plus no one in a million years could ever see Hinata slapping Naruto is not in her that is why I call it force plus the way she touch him, you don't see that kind of stuff with people that are not very close but instead they are only good friends, this only happen with lovers or family member.
About the confession, it was a cheap move no doubt, but the problem is that everyone try to dismiss that it was with a good intention.
So anyhow people try to look on it, Sakura was willing to throw away her life and friendship for his happiness, even the Authors stated that he was surprise that her confession was not welcome among fans.
So don't be surprise if Naruto thank her instead of any negative outcome.
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metaXzero In reply to donjoseph19 [2013-01-04 19:39:18 +0000 UTC]
I showed this to PhoenixofLife here, but you can see it as well.
[link]
The Naruhina community put alot of effort into that manifesto specifically to show that Naruhina over the course of the manga DOES have development and build-up. Give it a read sometime.
As for Hinata slapping Naruto being OOC, Hinata HAS been growing bolder over the course of the manga. It wasn't too long ago she was facing down Pain despite Naruto telling her to get out of there and despite how out of her league she was in vs. Pain. Hinata slapping Naruto may not have been predicted, but to say Hinata wouldn't do it if it was for Naruto's own good is a bit much. Hinata may not be as close to Naruto as say Iruka, but she is still a precious person to Naruto (especially since Naruto knows about Hinata's own struggle for acknowledgement).
Gah! Now we're really talking about Naruhina. -_-
Back to the relevant point, Sakura haters aside, most people know Sakura made the confession with good intentions (it was for Naruto's sake after all). But at the same time, she was greatly underestimating how much Naruto has grown as a person. She belittled Naruto's desire to return Sasuke as just being part of his old promise to her and being a reflection of Naruto's feelings for her (that he loves her enough that he would let her be with the one who she truly loves). So thinking that, she figured if she reciprocated Naruto's feelings, he'd feel no need to pursue Sasuke anymore and they could finally close the book on the Sasuke issue (even though she still struggles with her own desire for Sasuke).
If they ever revisit this, I don't expect Naruto to hold it against her. But Sasuke still remains a barrier for NaruSaku. How Kishi will resolve it if he wants to make NaruSaku canon is the question...
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donjoseph19 In reply to metaXzero [2013-01-04 23:35:00 +0000 UTC]
Sorry lol I read that post already, sometimes I read too much.
I guess we have to wait ad find out how the Manga will end.
Won't you agree?
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metaXzero In reply to donjoseph19 [2013-01-04 23:49:42 +0000 UTC]
Yep. Regardless of where shipping discussions go, it's not over until Kishimoto puts down his pen for the final time.
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donjoseph19 In reply to metaXzero [2013-01-05 02:06:53 +0000 UTC]
Amen to that. Wise words.
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PhoenixofLife In reply to donjoseph19 [2013-01-04 07:15:49 +0000 UTC]
Yup, that's what the hardcore Naruhina fans crave (not all of them, just the intense ones). Lack of any development as long as their ship sails on top of magical rainbow clouds. I just cant see any relationship working when it just materializes in like... a month? and when they've only seen each other 2 times, both in battle?
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Pomarosa In reply to PhoenixofLife [2013-01-04 00:43:58 +0000 UTC]
I just feel like it will be a little rushed... Hinata and Naruto need A LOT more panel time together IMO. But seriously, what about Naruto and Sakura's countless memories together...?
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PhoenixofLife In reply to Pomarosa [2013-01-04 07:07:29 +0000 UTC]
They'll probably just be tossed out the window saying that "her heart has always belonged to Sasuke" when he has done nothing for her, unlike Naruto, who has practically scarified everything for her, and in turn, her doing the same for him. Why did she become a medical ninja? To help Naruto. Why did Naruto train for all these years? To keep his promise to Sakura. I mean... The hinata thing is coming completely out of left field. The only background they have together are anime fillers and the two times she's shown up and done anything. She was there for Neji to hate and drown himself in darkness so Naruto could save him (neji is the success to Sasuke's failure in the darkness pulling department), and she randomly showed up to be stabbed by Pain, only to be saved by Sakura.
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