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My prayers and condolences to Paris.Related content
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Hitler believed in scapegoating, I believe in placing blame where it belongs, you believe in closing your eyes and plugging your ears while going "LALALALALALALALLALALALALLA" until everything that disagrees with you goes away.
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If you really believed in placing blame where it belongs then you wouldn't want to eradicate every last Musilm, just the ones who are terrorists.
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That would always be the first step, but if new groups started arising I wouldn't hesitate on the morals of pulling the weed of islam out by the root.
...Presuming of course I was in a position to have that kind of power.Β ...First step would be the taking over of Alaska...
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I know it wasn't supposed to, but that reference xD
Oh yeah, placing blame where it belongs by being a retarded racist
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The people who committed this were an extremist terrorist group, and in no way are a representation of the vast majority of the Muslim world. ISIS is to them as a militant Westboro would be to Christians, or present day Nazis to Germans.
I do hope you are posting this only in the hopes of attention and trolling. Β Views like these, a xenophobic hatred for people who are different, this is what leads to war and strife.Β
Instead of spreading hate, why don't you donate to try to help those affected by this horrific event, something that I would agree is far more helpful than praying? Do you think you are of a moral standard, because you are American, and therefore so much more civilized? "Guilty by association", are you guilty of slavery then?Β
I know none of what I say will change your views, but I hope you start to think on how damaging they are.Β
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"an extremist terrorist group"
Whose actions are defended by law in most every country their religion is #1.
"ISIS is to muslims as Nazis is to Germans"
ISIS is to muslims as SS-Verfugungstruppe is to Nazis.Β They're all terrible people; some just support the ideology while the others do all the dirty work.
"a xenophobic hatred of people who are different"
It's not xenophobic; I hate mud-slims wherever they are, not just if they're foreign; and it's not because they're different, it's because what they propagate is completely inexcusable; and yet is still defended by radical neo-liberals still feeling it's unfair to call a kettle a kettle because "We punished innocents enough for 9/11 so let's give them a free-pass for further actions to make up for it."
(also people choose their ideology, much unlike their skin color)
"Instead of spreading hate, why don't you donate to try and help?"
I can do both, though I prefer "painful truth" over "hate".Β But I sure won't deny that "hate" is also a fitting word.
"Do you think you are of a moral standard, because you are American, and therefore so much more civilized?"
No, I think I'm of a higher moral standard because I spend my time taking in as much information as possible.Β Instead of reading one scroll, determining it to be absolute truth, and then killing anyone who disagrees.
""Guilty by association", are you guilty of slavery then?"
I'm from a native American tribe based in Canada (Swampy Cree) if you want to play the gene game (so I'm not related to salvers at all) and no one has been enslaved in over 150 years.
Islam on the other hand is, right now, right this moment you're reading (or skipping) this.Β Killing someone somewhere for not believing in their imaginary friend, and similarly someone somewhere is trying to ride the high moral ground by screaming "no true scottsman" as if it's an excuse to follow the same belief system while attempting to distance themselves from them.
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oooooor you could do something about it rather than lash out at random people
cos that's 100x better than praying
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It's not lashing at random, it's stating to all.Β It's a message on how to fix the issue, you don't like it that's your problem.
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art can be another way to spread word out
technically, they are doing something
in some cases, they're doing all they can
there's actually several donation programs to help france
not that everybody has money to donate, for example
let alone money to fly to france and help with stuff
so, what i'm trying to say
is
yes, you should definitely spread the word out
and yes, you should comment on random peoples' deviations to advertise the help wanted (im legit fine with that)
but your tone was very angry, as if you were insulting everybody for "doing nothing"
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My tone was angry, as there are only a few things in this world that make me truly livid, and two of those things are "Islam did something inexcusable? Let's break out the untrue scottsmen" and "Something bad happened?Β Let's pray."Β The latter more so as I've had a friend die because the idiot non-persons who were her parents tried to pray the brain cancer away.
But yes I need to calm down, I know that, it's just very hard to do, when YET AGAIN, I CALLED SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAPPEN MONTHS IN ADVANCE; GAVE EXACT DETAILS BEFORE THEY WERE RELEASED. . .Β AND GET CALLED RACIST FOR BEING 100% CORRECT ABOUT MY PREDICTIONS! -grrrrrrrrrrrr-
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AND FUCKING NOT EVERY MUSLIM IS BAD, GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS.
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Oh you are just a treat.
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You knew the attacks were gonna happen?;;
Sorry if I sound stupid lol fnav;b
I'm sorry you feel this waaaay
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I knew some sort of terrorist attack was going to happen in France after the Charlie Hebdo thing as the first was obviously not just some random idiots, they were specific idiots subscribing to a specific ideology that is more predictable than the tides.
That said I had no idea which city in France this would happen, or what time/date.Β Just that "it will happen again unless people take action; which they won't because it's not politically correct enough."
And you don't sound stupid, you at least have the courtesy to reply civilly.Β I enjoy that.
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hhhh
it's just interesting because, it's not the first time something like this has happened
I heard that 9/11 could had easily been prevented, because all the men that preformed the attack (there was like, 13 men? I don't remember) were under surveillance with suspicious activity, except numerous different types of people were spying on them without sharing information (FBI, etc, I'm not smart enough to know the other different names).
I honestly don't think keeping an eye on certain races (Muslim for example) is racist at all... I honestly hope our government is staring them down when they enter our country, or anybody's country. Maybe we wouldn't be racist if those particular people didn't preform attacks so often. It amazes me how governments are still blindly letting them do this
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-opens another can of worms-
9/11 was very preventable, unlike most conspiracy theorists who want to say it was an inside job, I think myself that it was an outside job that we uncovered, but then chose to do nothing to prevent to use it as an excuse to take actions we otherwise would never have been approved of.
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Yes, because being able to call a kettle a kettle and being concerned about other peoples lives means I need help.
Not the people trying to say it's perfectly acceptable behavior then cowering to the typical yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-trβ¦
and
yourlogicalfallacyis.com/speci⦠when called out on it.
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You say you're concerned about peoples lives but you want to eradicate all Muslims even if their not with ISIS.Β
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Yes, because as I've explained to...Β Wherever he went...Β The ends justify the means and in the long term more lives will be saved than eliminated when you factor in victim count and arising violence from specific ideologies and those that subscribe to them.
It's not a pretty statement to say "What's worse?Β A billion now?Β Or three billion over the next thousand years?" because people only like to think in the now; but I like to think bigger picture and more long-term.
(...This is of course presuming the global warming predictions are off by a few hundred years, otherwise it'll all be for nothing but that's a completely different can of worms.)
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Just assuming. If you eradicated every single Muslim, do you honestly think that would lead to peace? All the innocents you will have slaughtered, do you think even non-Muslims would just idly stand by going "yeah fair enough"? They'd call you racist, cruel, a tyrant (which, by that point, you would be, by almost every definition - except those of other mass murderers) and rebel against you, form groups to try and kill you and those that support you, and what would you do? Fight back, obviously, to "finally bring peace, this time round, by eradicating the roots of those new terrorist groups", and voilΓ , you'll have yet another war on your hands. I do get your "the end justifies the means" philosophy, but with your proposed way of taking action, peace is not what would happen. There'd be another world war before global warming even has a chance to hit.
And that's just looking at it from a practical standpoint, not even going into the "What the fuck dude, are you seriously suggesting genocide to solve a problem?!!" -side of things.
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World peace?Β No.Β But it would lead to a large decline in terrorist attacks.
Also they'd be totally inaccurate, you can't be racist against an ideology.Β Cruelty subjective (I prefer "peace-keeping"), tyrant as well is depending on if I led a country to do this dirty work for me against their better judgement, or just convinced others to willingly do it. (Also not to put another damper on things, but drones don't rebel, and they would be my personal choice...Β I like robots...)
The next question is "what new terrorist groups?"Β Islam is single-handedly responsible for 98% of the worlds terror attacks; sure there would be FRINGE groups, but I'd hardly compare things like Bundy Ranch to ISIS.
Though yes I get the second part; my problem though is I will wholly admit, I'm more concerned about numbers and results, than peoples feelings and being politically correct.Β Leads to a lot of situations where I'm right and no one wants to hear it.Β Even if it's something as petty as Jeff Dunham's (comedian) spike in popularity, twinky's aren't really going away forever - it's a marketing ploy, or even "NURF mode is the april fools joke, they're just bringing back URF with a few minor changes to keep things like helicopterrims at bay."
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I don't know man. It's very hard to argue for me on ground of tangible facts because I know very little about history - I do want to do some research on it, but I want to do it thoroughly and that's going to take a while, and I don't want to make you wait that long for a reply.
All I can say for now is that I very highly doubt that religion is anywhere near the cause of terrorism against the West, it's the way that Western powers have mistreated the Middle East. Religion just happens to be a convenient tool to bring people together, have something to unite them against us, build the concept of an enemy based on the differences between us. Sort of like Hitler did, on base of race. It also gives them something to justify their actions, make them feel righteous and special, because no one, especially not criminals, want to admit to themselves how despicable they are. If it wasn't for religion, perhaps terrorist groups would be lacking an important tool, but I bet you they'd just find or build a new one. What getting rid of religion won't do is stop the anger and hatred. In fact, if you got rid of religion the way that you're supposing, by just blindly murdering every believer, that'd just add to their already ample reason to hate us. It'd also make you a far worse, and a greater threat to humanity, than any terrorists could ever be. Killing millions of people, innocents, to avenge and/or prevent the deaths of a comparatively few Western terrorist victims, is entirely out of proportion. It shows that you place more value in Western life, as Western civilizations have a history of doing.
The only difference between you and the terrorists would be that you are the one who happens to be in power. The one who has power, and abuses it. And that, in itself, is far, far worse than terrorism.
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Wow, how very constructive, I'm pretty sure everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read your...Β *AH-AHEM* 'rebuttal'.
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oops, you caught me on number one.Β
triviality (a trait that my comment really doesn't hold) =/= Β capability of making people dumb
unless your comment was meant to be ableist and a hyperbolic slur
i'm awaiting a post from you discussing the importance of capitalization and how people who fail to capitalize correctly will be brutally murdered by a conspiring society
oh wait
i would gladly give you a statistic on how proper capitalization doesn't affect intelligence or mental capability but those don't exist, fortunately due to the fact that lots of people have common sense
i have to say 'lots of people' because there will always be travesties like you walking around among others
which i actually am starting to doubt you do because you seem to have so much time if you're able to argue over and claim for ridiculous social matters.
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1: >unironically using the word "ableist"; poorly using it as well; while potentially being ableist.
2: "I would gladly give you a statistic on how proper capitalization doesn't affect intelligence of mental capability but those don't exist"
Because they aren't true
See: www.sciencedaily.com/releases/β¦
and: www.sciencedaily.com/releases/β¦
3: " there will always be travesties like you walking around among others" Oh ouch, a personal attack instead of an argument, let me just throw that in the fallacy bin with all the other bourgeoisie/effete garbage I shovel through regularly.
4: "[walking] which i actually am starting to doubt you do because you seem to have so much time" Well if you checked my cosplays you'd see that I'm quite fit and if you read my journals you'd see that I go out quite often as well as work for a living between university classes (STEM classes, you know, the only real ones left.)
But you can go ahead and presume my 28x32 pants size means I'm fat if it helps you sleep at night.Β Maybe I'm just very effective with my time and have a little half hour every other day scheduled away to be the "reply to, and attempt to educate, those who disrespectfully disagree with me in a hope that someday the world will be a smarter place."
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i'm laughing because i say 6 sentences and you lack the insult to accompany my phrase so you resort to a default insult that makes literally no sense considering my comment wasn't one bit daft
do i need to dumb the above sentence down for you
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1: You said six words, not six sentences.
2: It's not a default insult, it's a statement of observation considering you contributed nothing to the conversation.Β Just made a personal attack because I disagree with you but you lack the numbers or ability to present your case in a reasonable fashion.
3: No, but you could smarten it up a bit, you do know that the beginnings of sentences (as well as proper nouns) are capitalized, right?
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You're so stupid =') Muslims have nothing to do with this.
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ISLAMIC State
yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-trβ¦
and
yourlogicalfallacyis.com/speciβ¦
Try again kid it has everything to do with mud-slims.
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Actually I don't even care about people like you. When you will understand that Muslims are not ok with what is happening, we will be able to talk about it.
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Sorry, adendum to my previous statement.
Sharia laws have a 56.4% approval rating globally.
It's the Islam dominated countries that have the 75% - 80%. (Edit: Except Pakistan which has roughly a 99% Sharia law approval rating...Β Ugh...)
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Oh they're not...Β So that's why every mud-slim dominated country has blasphamy laws, most of which involve the death sentence, all of which have an approval rating of said laws between 75%-80%...Β Because mud-slims aren't okay with it.
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Its lovely tribute and warm despite the tragedy Β Β Β Β
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I take that pic for my website.
And guys like you make french guys like me a little bit better.
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Nice picture - and great message
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At least there are people who still care for the world. With your art I think many people will be pleased ^^
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Beautiful.
Many thanks from France.
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Very nice... very touching. <3
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Pray for Paris.
Pray for Peace.
Really cool art, man.
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