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RednBlackSalamander — Homicide by Cop
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Published: 2014-08-20 22:22:18 +0000 UTC; Views: 12113; Favourites: 44; Downloads: 17
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Fellow white people, please, let's stop pretending to be shocked at what's going on in Ferguson and face facts already: black Americans are scared of the police, and they have every goddamn right to be, because shooting unarmed black people seems to rank only slightly below donuts and Starship Troopers cosplay on the list of most popular police hobbies.Related content
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It's Buillshit because people make it sound like white cops are doing it for fun. People don't know all the facts yet about what happen it Ferguson and yet they post crap like "shooting unarmed black people seems to rank only slightly below donuts and Starship Troopers cosplay on the list of most popular police hobbies."
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Firstly, no one said that it's for fun. Racially motivated violence happens for a number of reasons. In my opinion it usually stems from people fearing those who are different than them, which is often a result of a deep inability to overlook stereotypes. It's a matter of closed-minded perspective more than purposefully seeking a certain ethnicity to kill today. That's beside the point though.
That statement that you keep quoting though, is set in a mildly facetious tone. It doesn't place murder as a literal cop hobby. It's hyperbole. That is also beside the point though, since I didn't ask you why THAT is bullshit. I asked you why what I said to you is bullshit.
ALSO I told you that I care little about your ability to tell people that you disagree with that they're lying. I want to know more about why you believe that communists and anarchists are all out to destroy the world. I'm genuinely interested in that one.
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Where did I say "communists and anarchists are all out to destroy the world"?
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Haha, oh dear. I wasn't quoting you. I was being unwisely hyperbolic rather than literal. I'll take note not to do that again. I was referencing your first comment, among a couple others, in which you implied that communists and anarchists are violent.
"It isn't shocking that commies and anarchists start riots..."
"...there were reports of communists being there to start riots."
Also, your rebuttal of "If you really think communists are in the riot-starting business, then clearly you know so little about the current communist subculture in America..." with "Maybe one day you'll over come your ignorance and see the truth in my words."
Is this literal enough for you? If not, I can try harder.
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And you are saying they are not violent?
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As an anarchist, communist, and pacifist, I am most definitely saying that. Not that there aren't some violent ones out there. Only that such a massive finger-point is unwarranted.
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So you never heard of anarchist riots in Greece, Seattle, UK, and Brazil?
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I'm going to resist my urge to be sarcastic, and instead say that yes, I have heard of many such things. In fact there was a war less than 100 years ago in Spain in which an army of anarchists fought against an army of fascists. I've also heard of countless armed robbers, shoplifters, murderers, arsonists, hitmen, human traffickers, drug dealers, and other such chaos causers that accepted the glorious gospel of capitalism and statism. To state that communists and anarchists cause riots is like saying that only oak leaves fall in autumn. In fact, many of the riots attributed to communists and anarchists are incited by folks hired by local governments to start violence, giving them an excuse to quell what would have otherwise been civil disorder.
This is not to say that there have never been riots started by anarcho-communists. It's to say that the vast majority have not, and that we're not going to try to tear the city down. As I said, I am an anarcho-communist, and I am also a pacifist. There are quite a few people exactly like me in this regard.
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You maybe a pacifist and 20 years ago I would have agree with you that anarcho-communists riots did not happen but times have changed.
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Dude. You're not listening at all. I said very plainly that they DO happen. They're just not even vaguely the only ones that happen, and the one in question (if you forgot, it was the one in Ferguson) was not remotely about anyone's political or economic beliefs, yet you decided to lay blame to philosophy.
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I'm saying they have changed and now show up to cause trouble where ever they can now.
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Where do you get that idea? I mean, I can say that because the Yellow Shirts in Thailand have caused violent protest, all royalists show up to cause trouble. I could say that about any group that has ever caused violence, but I don't. That would only take a small sample size, which statistically speaking is the worst kind of sample size.
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Where do you get that idea? The News and people here on DA.
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The News is always biased and should be taken with a grain of salt. It makes them a lot more money to shout "DANGEROUS ANARCHISTS KILLING PEOPLE" than it does to simply state the truth, which could be that a person was injured at a labor protest. Just a hypothetical situation, by the way. I'm not referencing anything there.
And DA is not a place that houses a ton of anarchist or communist thought, and surely not very diverse at that. My suggestion for you, if you want to know about real living breathing anarcho-communists, is to talk to us. And not just one, because we all have our different successes and failings. The reality is that most of us are just people who talk about history and the futility of a national government in a coffee shop. We're not dangerous terrorists or anything. We start community gardens and foster ideas of direct democracy. We can define any philosophy by its biggest nutjobs (the Tea Party, Al Sharpton, Brittany Spears), but that would be sensationalist.
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Okay so the majority of arrests were outsiders, doesn't mean that the majority of people who got rubber bullets shot at them, tear gas flung their way, or were subjected to arrest for standing in the street were from outside of town. Also who cares? There are communists singing and taunting police and obviously the intelligent thing to do is shoot rubber bullets at them and fire tear gas? Police get annoyed and fire blunt-force projectiles at people and you're upset that it was because of like 10 people with a communist background? I suppose if this was 1962 you'd be blaming those damned ruskies for inciting racial tensions! But let's look at it from the conservative perspective for a minute, if those cops were a bus full of immigrant children well I guess you'd be okay with them trying to incite anger huh? Yes sir, gotta support Also a joke doesn't seem to be the point of the picture itself, it's a play on both a stereotype of donut-loving cops, and the fact that cops are literally starting to look like space soldiers/Israeli Police the minute some possible violent situation can occur. So even though there may have been communists there, or anarchists, or even just straight up idiots it still doesn't qualify police to fire at them. It's like saying "Well if his son didn't want to get an eye knocked out he shouldn't have disobeyed!" And believe me, rubber bullets can put an eye out or worse if someone is hit in the head. You think these communists, or supposed communists are a big deal, unless they showed up with automatics and grenades the ones at fault here are the police. But you know what? Next time there's an anti-immigration protest within a 2-state radius I think I'll show up in police gear and fire a few rubbers at their fascist asses and see if the right is as calm about it as the supposed left is, oh well wouldn't trust the liberals to be too quick to side with people they hate too.
I'm willing to bet that never in US history has there been anyone on the left near as extreme as just a few of the far-right terrorists that exist among us even today. Also people like you don't understand differences in different forms of communism in the slightest, but I can almost guarantee that you can point out what denominations of Christianity exist and which one you probably wholeheartedly agree with, except the part where Jesus says to give people your stuff, fuck that Jesus didn't know shit about the economy bro! But in the case that your mind might be free of that plague might I suggest actually looking into the differences in communist variations?
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I need my hip waders.
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Well that is an intelligent way to respond to someone's comment. Truly you are the right-wing answer to Michael Moore, with such an impact you've made. Not only have you managed to avoid answering any questions, but you've actually attempted, failed but attempted, to make me look like the one who lost. If I could clap I would do so just so you could walk away feeling special like all those psychologists tell you.
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If communists and anarchists in America had anywhere close to the numbers, resources, and organizational capacity necessary to pull that off, then I wouldn't need to agitate through political cartoons because we'd already be starting a revolution.
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And i would be galdy taking arms but most of the 99% exploited by the 1% are either too pacifistic, too docile, too ignorant or weak to do anything and people like us lack the numbers and resources to overthrow the corrupt government and replace it with a better one that cares for the people.
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It only takes a couple people to start a riot when there is a protest going on, but true the vast majority of people reject your philosophy.
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And that's a vaild argument how ? That makes most of the people idiots for not knowing or admitting the current system we live in is fucking broken and we need to fix the fucking problem.
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If you really think communists are in the riot-starting business, then clearly you know so little about the current communist subculture in America, that your opinion on this issue is completely worthless.
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Maybe one day you'll over come your ignorance and see the truth in my words.
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What truth do you have in your words ? You're just some moronic troll with nothing of value to speak of.
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There is no truth in your words, the people most responsible for trying to cause moral outrages, start riots, and use terrorist tactics are people on the right. When was the last time someone even remotely close to being affiliated with communists have done anything even considered bad by the public? The weathermen? Even that's a stretch given that was before Jimmy Carter was in office. But let's see here, we've got the abortion clinic bombings, the huge amounts of people accused, arrested, or convicted due to the right's satanic panic of the late 20th-century, over 1,100 right-wing militias, we've got anarcho-capitalist sovereign citizens who've shot police, killed police and put a gadsen flag on them, and tried to take over a courthouse while holding a month long standoff against federal agents. Then we've got anti-immigrant militias in places like Texas who patrol the border without any permission to do so, all this on top of pundits who insist there is a war on Christianity and American "values". Seems to me like the worst radicals sit in your side of this big sinking boat buddy.
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Pull your head out of the sand, left-wing militants have been involved in riots for the past decade.
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2…
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Ah the Washington Times, the shameful perpetrators of sharia law conspiracies, staffed by neo-confederate racists, active homophobes, people who think Obama is Hitler but a black muslim, and funded by a Korean cult church...totally good source of information. Also despite the fact they were agitating, it can be argued that they were not inciting a riot by the sheer fact that they did not use force of violence, nor call for it while protesting. In other words I can yell "Fuck all cops, I HOPE these cops get their heads knocked in and be beaten by people to pieces" But because I didn't say I wanted to, nor that I wanted the people around me to it means I'm not inciting a riot legally.
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