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So in case you haven't been in the loop, in the past 24 hours or so, Someone released a tool that uses a neural network to color anime lineart. You can find it here:
paintschainer.preferred.tech
It just takes a jpg image and starts the coloring process for you, depending on the quality of your input image and contents, the results could range from meh to pretty amazing. Of course, you can specify colors and tweak it even further, and a lot of people have posted some really great looking results:
I have no doubt many people will use this to some effect or another. In fact, I think if this tool was released two years I might not have even bothered trying to seriously learn to color, since it'd be so convenient in comparison and my focus was more on making manga. There's a lot of people who stick with pencils and pens, but find digital hard to get into, or traditional colors too messy. This tool would allow them to finally get to see their own works in color. Others might put it in their digital workflow, or let it take over their digital coloring completely.
The question is, would this be considered cheating?
To answer that question, we'd have to examine what are some cases that can be considered cheating right now. The one that most people immediately think of is probably tracing. Generally most people can agree tracing is cheating, especially if you present it as your own work. The next one that comes up a lot is copying. However, already we're starting to get into a grey area. All fanart is basically copying the design and ideas of a popular franchise, so a lot of copying is already accepted. The times where drama seems to flare up is when the copy is too close to a well known work of another artist or official merchandise, such as copying the entire composition in addition to the characters. Some popular artists have ran into a bit of trouble when passing these 'studies' off as their own work, but it seems as long as you reference your source and don't try to profit off of it, its acceptable.
However, this tool doesn't really fall into the former 2 categories, but instead its more comparable to a photoshop tool or shortcut. For example, many artists use custom brushes to make their workflow much faster. Why draw every strand or rock crack when your brush takes care of the grunt work for you? Or the use of applying existing photo textures, a very common and accepted technique. Photobashing is straight up taking photos and cutting them up and putting them into your composition, and using layers, filters, and color adjusters, in combination with some digital painting touchup to make a completely new work, and is considered standard practice in the concept art industry.
So back to our original question. Is using this filter cheating, or is some level of use okay? I mean, if someone straight up says they colored it, but used the tool 100%, then I'd consider that cheating, but if they disclose they used the tool to color it, then it would it be okay? What if they used it, but then altered it by hand in addition to the AI coloring, like in photobashing, or altered it significantly so it becomes more or a reference? Would it be okay for them to say they painted it? Or they'd have to disclose they used it in some way during the coloring process?
I can already see a few uses I might have for it. For example, it seems to be able to calculate a very aesthetically pleasing color palette, while introducing a bunch of additional hues that fit your overall color scheme. It'd be extremely useful for setting up scenes or color profiles to get really interesting colors as a base reference:
Also, someone already made a short animation with the tool:
I really do want to try my hand at animating portions of VRO, and having it be colored automatically would save so much time. Of course I'd disclose my use of it.
Right now it seems the neural network was most trained on pastel type coloring, but in the future other coloring styles would become readily available. I can easily see this tool becoming a standard filter in the next version of Photoshop or Clip Studio Paint. When it does, it'd become widespread pretty quickly, and I'm sure there will be some huge schism on the digital artist scene regarding its use.
What do you guys think? Is it cheating? Or just another tool in a digital artist's arsenal?
UPDATE
I read through everyone's comments, that sure took longer than I expected. It seems people are pretty split regarding whether using the tool is cheating or not. However, most people agree that credit should be given if you do use the tool. A few comments brought up 'collaboration', which is a viewpoint I hadn't considered. There's also the issue of commissions, which make thing a lot more complicated.
Either way, it seems like as AI become more prevalent, thinks will be shaken up in ways we might not be able to control.
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I wouldn't call it cheating but it's kind of like bases where you need to give credit where its due. Especially if you create something that's professionally made, like a commercial comic. Which the owners of the softwareΒ will and has every right to sue you.Β
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Honestly the results are really amazing. I personally don't think it's cheating if you always give credit to the program and don't mislead anyone into believing you colored it by hand, but at the same time I wouldn't feel comfortable selling commissions using it. That to me seems like cheating someone else out of money they deserve for making the program.
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i think its cheating unless its for animation sense it already takes a really long timeΒ
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I"m pretty much in agreeance with you. Just like using shortcuts and custom brushes, I think a tool is a means to an end. Of course, with custom brushes, you still have to know how to use them properly, otherwise they won't get you very far.
I wouldn't mind if people used something to cut down their time, like the tool that fills in your lineart with random colors, but I do agree that people should be honest about it. Copying and tracing are, in my opinion, powerful learning tools, but if you copy or trace something, and then claim it as 100% your work, then yeah, that's not cool. Same with this. It looks very interesting, and I would try it, but if I did, I would disclose it, and obviously, you can't really use it as a learning tool if it does all the work for you.
tl;dr, it's only cheating if you allow it to do the work for you, then claim you did it all by hand.
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It seems like a great tool for things like making a comic. A lot of people don't have time to work on many pages of their comic so this would be very helpful, since they wouldnt need to put so much time in coloring it. However, aside from a couple of uses of this sort, I do think it's cheating to say you made that art piece. Hypothetically, you only worked on the lineart and the rest was done by a program, so you cannot take credit for the coloring. You can only take credit for the initial drawing.
At least that's my opinion x3
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i think it has its applications, and i can definitely see it being SUPER useful for artists doing webcomics! it might not be appropriate for all uses but i can see it being an innovation that becomes commonplace in the future!
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It looks like the tool really likes pastel colors.
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I'm going to say "no," because I played with it and I think its easier to do the job myself than with the AI.
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I just tested out this sorcery!
It didn't really work correctly for mine haha
I personally wouldn't call it cheating since the coloring it by yourself or getting the software to work in your favor is probably about as tedious as the other. To me, it's a pretty great tool if you learn how to use it.
Comparison:
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i mean??? i honestly think the drawing would look a lot more thoughtful and wouold look like there was more work/effort put into it if you colored it yourself. coloring comics with this, I think, would be ok since it'd take way too long is you did it by hand
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It's only "cheating" if you like being pretentious about drawing.
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whoa that's actually really good,,, Β I suck at colouring so I'd give this a pass if I saw it,,,
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It's alright with me but I don't use digital art and I color my own art
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I'd say as long as you credit the program, it's just another tool.
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I think if you have to color a thousand frames, this would be useful. But for a single work of art it's definitely cheating. Another way I think it might not be cheating is if you're coloring comic book pages.Β
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I mean, it's not by the artist's hands unless they directly mess with the AI itself, so yes?
It'd be cool to mess around with I suppose, but personally I wouldn't.
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I think it'd be fun to mess with?
I don't know if it's cheating though?
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That sounds amazing. although it looks a little tedious to use...
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