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Published: 2012-02-25 06:08:30 +0000 UTC; Views: 12847; Favourites: 289; Downloads: 3
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king tiger and Me 262 pen and ink i love how strong the king tiger looks so i thought id finnally do a picture it didnt come out as good as i wanted but it came pretty close hope you enjoy please comment like i said it gives me something to read i think im gonna do a panther nextRelated content
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Total production of the Panzerkampfwagen Tiger Ausf B was less than 500 machines.Β The production rate was roughly that for the 1980s M1 Abrams tank.Β I've heard that U.S. Army strategy was to have 4 Shermans attack each King Tiger simultaneously, which wasn't hard to do given that total production of both 'Tiger' versions totaled less than 2000 machines.
Total production of Me 262 was roughly 1400, most of them in 1945.Β Until 1945 the Germans could not make its jet engine last more than 25 hours.Β By the time it got into production, they were running out of experienced pilots who could work around its weaknesses and avoid getting caught in the landing pattern by Allied pilots diving on them.Β They didn't run out of fuel because they could run relatively well on the brown coal fuel the Germans were making.Β The Me-262's estimated kill ratio was less than 2 Allied aircraft shot down for each Me 262 lost.Β Only about 300 ever actually flew, and the Luftwaffe never got more than 60 into combat on any one day.
At least the Tigers and Me-262 actually got into combat.Β A whole lot of other hardware did not.
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Kings, although ... the Panzer VI Tiger II weighed 69 to 70 metric tons, combat ready.
That's roughly two times the weigh of the more common - and most-commonly used - tanks, whether in the Panzerwaffe or the Soviet, US, UK armoured forces. (See the weighs of the Panzer IV, T-34, and Shermans).
So it was a gasoil guzzler (I think it consumed 5 liters for every kilometer ... on a nice, plane, straight road ... imagine in rough off-road terrain :-S), it was slow, and because of its weigh, the gearbox was put under huge strain.
It wasn't such a problem as long as the IIIrd Reich could timely supply its army workshops with spare parts of a sufficient quality and in sufficient numbers, but as the war neared the end, the quality and numbers dropped.
Besides, in a forest, the long, powerful 88 mm gun was more of a hindrance, because it could so easily, so often be blocked by trees near the tank.
And, once again because of the weigh, the turret hadn't exactly the highest traverse speed.
Not forgetting to mention the off-road abilities either: Ok, it had very large caterpillars, but I'm almost sure the ground pressure was much higher than for, say, a Firefly Sherman, even at its weigh limit.
In other words, it was the perfect machine ... as long as you had fully-supplied and manned repair workshops not too far from you, ARVs, stayed clear from the forests, clear from buildings too tall above your tank, and, last but not least, as long as the Allied aviations (P-47, Typhoon, Tempest, Il-2, or bigger like the B-25, A-20, etc. medium bomber) weren't in the sky, because this slow, big target, on clear terrain was a juicy objective for Allied airmen. And also for practically each and every single Allied AT gun/mortar/howitzer/bazooka crew.
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There was two differences between the Porsche turret and the Henschel turret. The first difference is the early turret (Porsche) was smaller and had roughly 100 mm armor on front and about 80 mm of armor on both the sides and rear, while the late turret (Henschel) was 185 mm thick at the front, but had the same side and rear thickness. The second difference is the gun it was meant to hold, the early turret (Porsche) was designed to be equipped with the 8.8 cm KwK 43 L/71 gun, which was a monster in itself. Later in the war, the Germans began development on the 10.5 cm KwK 46 L/68 gun, which was much larger (obviously) than the first gun, and therefore needed a bigger turret to be able to support it. They both had slanted armor (thank you Soviet Union) and the most noticeable difference between the turrets is the commanders cupola actually bulges out of the side of the turret on the left side while the Henschel turret does not. Hope this helps.
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is that important?I only see a great picture.
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And that the PorschetΓΌrm also had a rounded frontal armour, allowing lucky rocochetting rounds to penetrate the driver's or radioman's compartiment which had comparatively inexistant amour.
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i like it most dont draw the tiger 2 with the early turrent
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PzKpfw VIB Tiger II Porsche turret
Hensche turret is better looking and makes it the best looking tank ive seen
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one thousand views yay my first time to reach that on any of my deviations
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just 29 more views and i have my first deviation that reaches 1000 views please view it more please
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Why are you disappointed by this pic? I really think it's a good one because one can see your talent to do a fast sketch while keeping in mind the perspective, the shadows and so on (ok, in Germany we would leave the swasika away). Things that are important when drawing, you know what I mean. It doesn't always need perfection, even not on DA!
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i really didnt want to leave the swastika away because the real plan had one in that spot so i was just trying to be historical but i just pic apart everything i draw
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Sure, without it, it's incomplete anyway.
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I only wonder, why Porsche turret? There were only 50 tanks with those, and they all served in one battalion.
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because the porshe turrent is damn sexy
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Ahwwwww you did it with a Porsche turret!! Just kidding... Awesome work!!!
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Were the King and Royal tiger the same thing? I know the regular tiger has a turret without the sloping armor. Nice drawing..
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The Tiger had several nicknames given by the Allies but these nicknames did NOT reflect the different production versions of the tank. Its official designation was Panzerkampfwagen Tiger Ausf B or "Tiger II." The Germans named it the "KΓΆnigstiger" (German for Bengal tiger). The Allies translated it literally to "King Tiger." British tankers also nicknamed the tank as "Royal Tiger" or "Royals."
There were two production versions. The early version (as shank117 depicts here) featured a sloped armor turret with a distinctive bulge for the commander's cupola. This proved much too expensive and complicated to produce and so a larger, boxier design was used in production models thereafter. The former is often incorrectly called a "Porsche" turret and the former is known as the "Henschel" turret.
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so this one is the one with the porshe right i think i got it right..right? i want to cause im a huge world war 2 guy and im trying to learn all the correct terms
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Yep, and you did one helleva job with the detail!
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the two variants where the normal tiger which you see the most without the sloped armor then there was the king tiger which has the sloped armor but had two different turrent types one with the porshe turrent(the one i drew) and the production turrent which i forgot the difference between them just a little different looking
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Germans were ahead of there time. But another problem was none or few of their tanks shared common parts. If one was knocked out, replacement parts were hard to find, especially toward the end of the war.
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The King tiger had better armor on it then the regular tiger and the Tiger tank always broke down while traveling. The King Tiger never broke down while traveling it always broke down during battle.
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I think the best tanks based on the iron triangle theory were the Panther and the T-34/72. A good balance of everything is the way to go. And also keeping economy in mind as well.
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ya but the panther and T-34/72 could not stand against the Tiger and King Tiger Tank
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Not individually. The Sherman was even worse until they got the firefly version.
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The Nazis had some good-looking uniforms and equipment, I'll say that for them. The evil they wrought will forever stain that aspect, however.
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ME 262 looks good.
I hope you will do a Panzer IV.
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