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Seriously Americans if it is in the freaking declaration of independence which a lot of the right wing screwballs swear by. Then why do you not pay attention to it. Because "America Jesus" tells you to.Related content
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The world 'my' does not mean that she created it. It simply means it's hers.
For example, I can say that MY church has a youth group, but that doesn't mean I created it. It's just the church I go to.
I'm assuming you know basic grammar, so I'm going to guess that you either misinterpreted what she meant, and owe her an apology, or that is not the truth.
I do not see how she is not in accordance with Christianity. The Bible is quite vague on some subjects, such as homosexuality. I say this because it is rarely mentioned and when it IS mentioned, it can be interpreted in different ways. Therefore, there is a lot of controversy. There is no definite right or wrong answer about it, and those who claim there to be so have no authority to do that. So, there is no accordance for her not be be aligned with.
I'm sorry if you disagree. Homosexuality is not what I wanted to talk to you about, either. You are entitled to your own opinion on the matter, so am I, and so is she.
And of her profane outburst- People make mistakes, my friend. She is not a saint. Swearing is a bad habit for her. Everyone does it. That doesn't mean she isn't a Christian.
And actually, you said: "Well your religion is obviously not the religion Christ instituted."
Implying that it isn't Christianity, because I'm not aware of any other religions that Jesus Christ instituted.
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Oh, I know that. But since her actions do not reflect Christian values, she is not practicing Christianity, which means she is practicing something other than Christianity; even though she claims to be Christian (and I’m not saying she isn’t, but it’s doubtful based on my impression). So it is “her” religion, because it’s not Christ’s.
2. Religion, as distinct from theology, is godliness or real piety in practice, consisting in the performance of all known duties to God and our fellow men, in obedience to divine command, or from love to God and his law. James 1. (That’s from Webster’s Dictionary, so it’s her practice that is wrong; which is what religion is).
I’ll give you verses at the end to better illustrate my point.
Actually, I’m owed an apology for being disrespected by her way of dealing with me. I’m simply following scripture in my dealing with her. She didn’t make a mistake according to her understanding; she says “I had a reason to react badly.” So she believes what she did is right, which means she is not sorry, or does not seek to express that she indeed is.
That statement is quite flawed. Scripture interprets scripture, that’s the only way you can get the truth. Man cannot choose to hear what he wants from the Bible and claim that God agrees with them (See 2nd Peter 1:19-21). There is a definite right and wrong spelled out in God’s word, and those who do not accept that, or claim that there is nothing solid to accept, are in denial to hide their own sin (or agenda) or that of others. What other way can there be unity among Christians?
It’d be more believable if I was face to face with her. But once it’s typed, it can be changed before it’s sent. It’s not like she blurted it out in my face and said, sorry. She willfully typed it out decided to keep the words, and hit the send button. And no, everyone does not use profane language in that manner at all.
Matthew 7:15-21 – Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them. Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
Those verses Christ’s words, not mine. I can’t believe every person who tells me they’re a Christian, I need to see some proof. There are so many fake Christians, it’s imperative that the real ones stand out. I’m not saying I’m (or any other Christian is) perfect, I’m far from it. But there should be a significant difference between true Christians and the world. And those verses illustrate my point.
Yes, that’s exactly what I said and I explained it in the first paragraph that I wrote.
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And none of that applied to what I am talking about. I am not concerned with her latest comments or her actions against you. My problem is not with how she has acted. It is with how YOU acted. What YOU did was making a claim that you have no right to make.
You accused her of not following the religion Christ instituted; you accused her of not being a Christian. Only God has the authority to decide whether someone is a true Christian or not. You owe her an apology your rudeness. She owes you one as well, but that is not what I am trying to communicate in this conversation, since we are in agreement about that.
Please do not distract us from the mistake that YOU made by talking about her mistakes. She is at fault, as well, but that is not what I am focusing on.
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Are you sure you read my comments properly? I was answering your comments paragraph by paragraph; of course it applied to what you said. I answered your points directly and as fully as I felt necessary. I didn’t ignore your points like you are ignoring mine.
Well MY problem is with how she acted. Are you only allowed to have problems brought up in an argument? I think not, I should be allowed to as well.
And you completely ignored this which points out what she did wrong in the first place:
“Man cannot choose to hear what he wants from the Bible and claim that God agrees with them (See 2nd Peter 1:19-21). There is a definite right and wrong spelled out in God’s word, and those who do not accept that, or claim that there is nothing solid to accept, are in denial to hide their own sin (or agenda) or that of others. What other way can there be unity among Christians?”
Seriously, you must have quickly read my comments if you didn’t understand them fully. I only accused her of not following Christianity, not that she wasn’t a Christian (give me a quote where I say that she isn’t a Christian. The closest I come to it is saying that it’s doubtful.). I purposely didn’t say that she isn’t a Christian because it isn’t my call. You’re right, only God has the right to say who is and who isn’t a Christian. But if I think a Christian is on the wrong path, I’m supposed to help her by saying so.
If I had something legitimate to apologize for, I would. I was not rude in any way. I wasn’t sarcastic, did not use foul language, use CAPS, or anything else classified as rudeness; unless you mean tough.
I just acted based on Scripture. I believe that I should point out that she isn’t following scripture because of 1st Corinthians chapter 5 (among other passages). Please read the passage, it gives an example is sin and how to resolve it. And that Christians are supposed to intervene and assist.
I’m not distracting from it, I’m saying that I did nothing wrong. Because I didn’t, and I don’t believe I have yet. The Bible tells me to point out what’s wrong about other Christians so that they can change, and that’s what I did. You should study the Bible more clearly if you want to blame me for doing wrong, when in reality it’s exactly the opposite. And maybe you aren’t focusing on what she did wrong, but I am. You interrupted my discussion with her, so I have a right to defend myself and bring up my own points, perhaps more of a right than you do.
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OK I call bullshit on that one. No way in hell does Webster put that marriage is something from god. Marriage is man made Adam and eve were never married they just fucked like bunnies in the garden without regret so god never had marriage in mind. And here is the problem assholes like you and other fundamentalist and Mormons prevent gays from getting benefits because you want to protect the sanctity of something that is man made. And that is the reason the word is corrupt because it shows a union of church and state which is a union far worse then two men getting married, two woman getting married, and a pig and a farmer getting married combined/
Also I will fucking punch you in the gut until you shit blood if you say my religion isn't Christian. I mean how dare you. What right do you have to say who is Christian and who is not Christian. I mean show me where Jesus Christ himself says "GAYS CAN NOT GET MARRIED" and then I will believe you. Oh and don't even get me started on the verse in Romans and the verse in Corinthians because I will destroy you.
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The bible says marriage is from God. As a Christian you should know and respect that fact.
And I disagree with your claim that Adam and Eve "f***** like bunnies". Before sin entered the world, Eve and Adam had a healthy union in which they were equals and constantly communicated with God. When they were in the garden they never conceived children- they did that after the fall.
Also, you can not assume that BlazingGanodorf is a fundamentalist or mormon- how do you know he is? He does not seem to be acting like the ignorant bigot you make him out to be.
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although saying that you're not a christian wasn't acceptable. A christian can struggle with certain issues or even at times disagree with the bible- it's a part of being human.
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Just to clear things up. I didn't say she wasn't a Christian. I just said that the religion she was practicing isn't true Christianity or isn't Christianity at all. Because she was saying that her religion said that homosexuals can marry, while the Bible says no. Which is a conflict. That's what I meant. If that clears up things...
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Ok when I say **** like bunnies I meant that in the way of they had an innocence to them. And yes the bible does say that marriage is from God. But modern day marriage is not from God and is instead from man. Also I can tell when people are fundamentalist and trust me he seems to be a fundamentalist
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Modern marriage can be from God or instituted by man. A pure Christian marriage is one instituted by God; a union of equals who are of one flesh.
Also I understand why he was criticizing your statement of "my religion". He was saying that you are supposed to understand and follow truth, not just what you believe. We can have our own beliefs on certain issues but we must understand that God's word is supposed to be the truth. That was what he was trying to tell you.
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Yes but you see right there is the flaw. The man and God determined institute of marriage carry the same name and therefore it tis corrupt. Also how is that right he is going off of what he believes and not giving me examples or doing anything to tell me there is truth behind his statement. I understand that God's word is truth but since he aint quoting the bible that is not much help.
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the man and "God" determined institute of marriage only carry the same name because the church is combined with the state- and that is corrupt.
But I have seen couples that regardless of the institute side of marriage they go past that and live in a perfect God determined union- trust me, i've seen a marriage like this and I can attest that it truly is under God. They are together because they know God has determined their marriage and they live for God.
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Ya but still God really never says blatantly that a christian marraige is between a man and a woman. And I accept that some people live in holy matrimony under the Lord.
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well, many would say that the creation of two genders and the metaphor of the church being the bride of christ proves that God made marriage for a man and a woman. but you could say that those were points given so that culture (when the bible was written) would understand the relationship b/w the church and God.
maybe this debate better to argue in person
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Ya it would be and I think alot of the bible is deeply metaphoric.
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I don't appreciate a "Christian" using such profain language, it's childish and sinful. You're supposed to be an imitator of Christ, not a enemy of His character. And the only reason I tell you this is because you claim to be a Christian.
I was going to read your reply, but I don't appreciate your unchristian way of communication. It's insulting and sinful.
I will seriously pray for you from my heart. May God work in you and help you grow. ^^ To God be all the glory.
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Listen you insulted my religion I had a reason to react badly. Oh so it's my language that made you not read the rest of the message. No no you read the rest of the message. And you realized I have valid points and your just ignoring it because you have no rebuttal. But go on believing it is because of my language that you are so steamed. OK fine hear it is verbatim with the swear words starred out. Try claiming language now. Also you should apologize for saying I am not christian. And then maybe just maybe I will play nice.
"OK I call ******** on that one. No way in **** does Webster put that marriage is something from god. Marriage is man made Adam and eve were never married they just ****** like bunnies in the garden without regret so god never had marriage in mind. And here is the problem ******* like you and other fundamentalist and Mormons prevent gays from getting benefits because you want to protect the sanctity of something that is man made. And that is the reason the word is corrupt because it shows a union of church and state which is a union far worse then two men getting married, two woman getting married, and a pig and a farmer getting married combined.
Also I will ******* punch you in the gut until you **** blood if you say my religion isn't Christian. I mean how dare you. What right do you have to say who is Christian and who is not Christian. I mean show me where Jesus Christ himself says "GAYS CAN NOT GET MARRIED" and then I will believe you. Oh and don't even get me started on the verse in Romans and the verse in Corinthians because I will destroy you."
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I completely agree.
I think children are forced to memorize it and recite it in school o.O
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nice... addresses a very importan issue
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we hold these truth to be self-evident etc.
even i know these sentence and i'm german XD
and YEAH! YOU'RE RIGHT!
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Sum gratus pro tui bonis verbatis.
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Ya what of it. It is spelled right.
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It's not the spelling.
We have the right to pursuit happiness. No one ever said we'd be happy, just that we can try.
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Pursuit of happiness means you have the right to own property.
The original saying was 'The right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of property'
As in, no one can stop you from earning a living (unless it's illegal 
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Ah, I knew there had to be some stupid meaning.
Thanks.
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It's basically saying the government can't steal from you 
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The IRS is illegal. I knew that one!
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They aren't even letting us try, though. Straight couples get to marry and try to be happy that way--gay couples can't try that.
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Marriage doesn't equal happiness. That's the thing about happiness- it's nice and vague, so we can bend its definition to our will.
Unless of course there's some dumb political definition I've never heard of.
It's still unfair. But I don't think the right to the pursuit of happiness applies to the gay marriage problem.
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Marriage doesn't equal happiness, and this dev doesn't mention getting happiness. It involves the pursuit of happiness. There's a difference... If a gay couple thinks they might find happiness through being married, and they aren't hurting anyone else by being married, the government shouldn't be able to stop them.
Straight couples can be unhappily married, but they are legally able to TRY to be happy in marriage. Gay couples can't. I hope that makes sense.
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But you don't need to be married to TRY to be happy with someone you love. That's the point of love, isn't it? You don't need the government/church/society to say that they approve, you just need each other.
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The rights, benefits, and privileges can help a lot though. Being seen as equal to straight couples by Uncle Sam means a lot.
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A billion dollars would help me be happy, too. But that doesn't mean the government should fork it over.
And it means a lot to have an assload of cash. D:
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But it's about being equal. If they gave you a billion dollars, they'd have to give it to everyone who asked for it to be fair, amirite?
They give over a thousand rights and benefits to married couples, but only heterosexual couples can get married. They don't give those rights to same-sex couples. See?
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Yes, a lot of rights are given to married couples. But you don't need these rights to be happy.
HAPPINESS does not need to be obtained through marriage. You can pursuit happiness with your lover without having some legal forms and tax deductions. Therefore, the pursuit of happiness doesn't apply to gay marriage. That's all I'm trying to say.
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Then we just disagree. Which is fine.
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Yay, disagreement. c:
That is fine.
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Yes I guess the founding fathers knew their would be assholes cockblocking happiness.
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The fight for equal rights is the pursuit of happiness. Happiness itself is not guaranteed.
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"The United States Supreme Court, in recognizing that marriage is a fundamental right, stated that "the freedom to marry has long been recognized as one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness." Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1, 12, 18 L. Ed. 2d 1010, 87 S. Ct. 1817 (1967). See also Zablocki v. Redhail, 434 U.S. 374, 54 L. Ed. 2d 618, 98 S. Ct. 673 (1978)." [link]
They are fighting for the right to "the pursuit of happiness", the fight is not the pursuit itself. Hence the reason it is technically unconstitutional.
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Hmm. That's rather useful, thank you.
Most of my legal knowledge is from "stupid law" trivia booklets, so legal issues that actually matter are typically beyond me
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