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The story of deviantART, as most know it, goes like this. Once upon a time the yellow alien :jark: and a pug were sitting around thinking, hey it would be great to create a massive online art community wouldn't it? And then the yellow alien went off and wrote thousands of lines of alien code, and the pug ran around telling all his friends about this great new art site they had to check out. And when the alien was done coding, he told all his alien friends to come too! Once they'd all arrived, this heavenly new community came about and we all lived happily ever after. Until people started "first posting" and what not. But that's another story.
The end.
But not quite.
Actually, there was a lot more to it that couldn't be discussed until now. Like the fact that there were always three deviantART co-founders, not two. That deviantART was wholly owned by DMusic Network, LLC, and then Lynx Technology Group, LLC which, to begin with, owned DMusic Network, LLC. A gentleman by the name of Michael Ovitz (former President of the Walt Disney Company. Founder of the Creative Artists Agency and a Hollywood legend to boot.) was the owner of all three of these companies. And also the little known fact that deviantART was nearly shut down before it reached its first birthday, and was saved by this mysterious third co-founder ( ) by the skin of his teeth.
Here's that story, which is quite a bit different from the fairy tale we all remember. :t::h::e:
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[Rewind 5X playback]: I founded a company called "Dimension Music" in 1997, which was later renamed to "DMusic" - it was huge, tons of traffic, lots of money. In 1999 it was acquired by Michael Ovitz, a very powerful Hollywood "super" agent and his Lynx Technology Group. I went to work for Ovitz right out of high school, and while there I worked with all divisions of his new management company (Artists Management Group) to help them make their projects more appealing to the tech generation. Throughout this time I continued to run the DMusic Network on behalf of Lynx Technology Group, and in early 2000 I went out and acquired a handful of other similar online music sites, and the management teams behind those sites. One of these acquisitions was Cybertropix, run by the now infamous jark - soon after Cybertropix was transitioned in to the DMusic Network, jark approached me about an idea he felt strongly about. And so we agreed, he would create deviantART which would be an art community, run off of the DMusic Platform, and would also power our much needed skin section for DMusic.
Skinning wasn't a new concept to me or to DMusic. In cooperation with Mark Streich (Gllen), DMusic created the very first skin site in late 1997 early 1998. WinAMP Facelift was an extensive database of skins for WinAMP, the only popular skinnable application that existed at the time. After WinAMP Facelift was complete, Mark Streich saw an opportunity to open up a website that enabled artists to submit skins for all skinnable applications, it was called Customize .org and it was developed and launched on DMusic 's servers, and resided there for about six months before it needed its own servers. I'm sure many of you remember it as the grandfather of all skin sites. Customize later sold to a company called Rare Medium in New York - I had negotiated to sell DMusic to them as well, along with numerous other MP3 sites, but fortunately I chose to work with Michael Ovitz instead.
A bit later in 1999, jark built a site called Screenphuck which was very similar to Customize .org but with many interesting innovations. The project didn't go far because soon after this the DMusic Network bought Cybertropix and many new opportunities were on the horizon for jark .
Under contract with DMusic Network, LLC, jark built and launched deviantART on August 7th, 2000. Soon afterwards, jark realized that he'd need his own staff, because the management of deviantART was a task he couldn't take on by himself, so he found matteo to help him out. And matteo was awesome, he knew many talented artists, more artists than even jark knew, and he was great at spreading the word about deviantART. Soon afterwards, I officially hired matteo as a consultant to the DMusic Network to help jark - and the magic began to happen.
Interesting note; six months after deviantARTs launch, I began discussions with David Gorman and Clark Temple to bring their many talents and DeskMod .com in to the DMusic Network, specifically to help jark . deviantART was very young at the time, and needed quite a bit of programming work; David Gorman would have been a major score for the team. After reaching an agreement to complete this aquisition, the deal was terminated due to "late-term-jitters" on signature day. This happened again after we reached a hand-shake agreement a few months later. We've always had much respect for DeskMod and its founders, and looked forward to working with them; it's unfortunate that this never came to be. :t::r:
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It was around this time that the Internet bubble had burst, and soon the Lynx TG lawyers were on me like bees. deviantART was still small, and wasn't generating nearly any revenues to cover its many costs. DMusic on the other hand was quite a bit larger at the time, so I focused on expanding it to bring in more cash to compensate for the dramatic changes in advertising rates, and so that we could keep both deviantART and DMusic going. Companies in the digital music space were going out of business left and right and with every competitor around us filing for bankruptcy, things weren't looking good. Dream land soon turned in to a bit of a nightmare, but the worst was still to come.
The only part of this story I still cannot reveal has to do with a legal matter that faced deviantART in its early days. Skipping over the details, that are almost irrelevant; due to this issue I was directly instructed to shut deviantART down. And rightfully so, because not only was there a serious legal blunder that had been made (which has since been corrected) but deviantART was very young, so it needed quite a bit of investment and time in order to begin cash flowing positive. The bubble had burst and, regardless of how fantastic I knew deviantART could be, it certainly did sound like a very dot-bomby idea to anyone not as close to the project as I was. I also needed to find a buyer for DMusic .com, but I was not permitted to find a buyer for deviantART. And, I was also not permitted to purchase deviantART back from Lynx Technology Group myself, due to this legal issue.
The struggle to save deviantART in the months that followed this were not enjoyable. I will say, it was by the skin of my teeth that we walked away with an amicable agreement to both sides. The problems were side effects of the times, mostly a crashing economy. With that came a sense of urgency - a rush to secure businesses that could pull in significant revenues, a rush to stop the bleeding (of money) going in to projects that didn't fit in to this first category, and a rush to terminate businesses that couldn't stop the bleeding.
For me, AMG was college, an MBA and a tornado of wordly experience. I was 18 when I began working with some of the most successful people in the world. Harvard educated attorneys, MBA's and experienced movie, music, television and sports executives. I met 3,000 people, took high level and many times investor level meetings with nearly 100 companies. Essentially, it was the opportunity of a life time. So while saving deviantART may have been a bit of a nightmare, believe you me it was a small and understandable price to pay. :e::v::e::r::y:
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I soon found three interested buyers for DMusic, and it sold to a gentleman named Larry Feldman, ESQ. I'm proud to say that DMusic is still alive and kicking to this day. In fact, Michelle Robertson, twin sister of Michael Robertson (the founder and former CEO of MP3 .com) is now the President of the DMusic Network. Michelle built the DAM CD system at MP3 .com, and being a Robertson I feel confident that DMusic is in great hands with her.
After the DMusic sale, I was finally given permission to find a buyer for deviantART. Up until that point I was still under the impression that I was not going to be allowed to do so. What changed? We patched up the aforementioned legal matters, in the nick of time. The trick to all of this was, I had 3 days to find a buyer. I'm sure you can imagine the stress of these circumstances.
I had a number of folks in mind that we could bring on as partners. In the end, we were fortunate enough to partner with two very good friends of mine. They made the best offer, and coincidentally they were our first choice. Andrew McCann and Ian Lyman were the two extremely talented individuals behind the popular MP3 player Sonique , which they sold to www.lycos.com ">Lycos in 1999. Having built the most visual media player ever, I knew they would be the best fit for deviantART. Within a day, we had reached an agreement and deviantART was saved.
Too close.
My partner jark was sick throughout this entire process, and is on medication to this day from the stress this caused him. I took two months off, and went to visit family in Greece the moment all of these issues came to a close so that I could piece together the parts of my brain that were still able to function. We felt like we had come out of a meat grinder, to put things in to perspective. Not to mention we had gone through all of this alone, we hadn't told the rest of the team ( tack , arc and matteo at the time) what was going on so that we wouldn't worry anybody, or let them feel the stress we were feeling so that they could focus on keeping the site running.
In retrospect, it was a bit like a fairy tale in that we all lived happily ever after. Well almost, because deviantART still couldn't support itself when we finally had control of it. The strength we've built since is a credit to the powerful team we've assembled here and the love of deviantART that binds us.
I quickly went to work part-time on business development a few months after I returned from Greece, eventually I took that entrepreneurial risk and began working on deviantART full time. Everyone else was a volunteer, jark had (and has) a full time job with a consulting company to the Navy, not to mention a family. For deviantART to stabalize, someone needed to jump on board and take control or it faced the possibility of bankruptcy once more.
That was a year ago, and the results so far have been the development of our printing service, strong advertising relationships and our subscription program. In addition, I brought DMusic's CTO ( chris ) over to deviantART, who is currently the lead engineer on the dA version 3 project. He is an invaluable solution to our scalability troubles.
Like any seasoned team we know that the road ahead will continue to be bumpy, but we've overcome the turbulance of our first few years. We're proud of this, and we're especially proud to announce that deviantART is here to stay; in regards to online art, you officially have a place you can count on to be there, serving your creativity, for many years to come. :c::r::e::d::i::t::s:
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Angelo Sotira
CEO, deviantART, Inc., Co-Founder
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Comments: 2600
Adanedhel-Noir In reply to ??? [2008-05-30 20:09:23 +0000 UTC]
Maybe it 'll take sometime for you to read this since you 'll be getting hundreds of messages each day but I don't mind.
I just wanna say that your work here is awesome and I enjoy being a member of this community.
I admire your skills in management, I really think DA couldn't have a better chief than you!
Keep up the good work!
btw I'm soooo proud you 're Greek! Γειά μας!
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iseril In reply to ??? [2008-05-25 19:03:45 +0000 UTC]
kudos, I had small business once. Fought for three years to keep it, but lost. I purely understand the good fight. For when you care enough to fight.
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Pulsera [2008-05-16 04:53:38 +0000 UTC]
It's always great to find out where things start up from, and dA has one of the most interesting beginnings ever.
Are you planning to ever make another community again?
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youmny [2008-05-02 10:29:17 +0000 UTC]
I know this is not an "artistic" post but you do have a way with words lol
interesting story from a business perspective. Thank you for sharing. It would make a good case study for a business school
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Buslady [2008-05-01 04:32:50 +0000 UTC]
I've wondered where who what how why etc about DA, I'm glad it survived and we have it today; I love this site and love seeing everything on here. Thanks you guys for your hard work!!
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Tsukku [2008-04-22 00:37:04 +0000 UTC]
I've been browsing deviant art for a couple of years and when i recently aquired a lap top i struggled to learn the basics of adobe photoshop because i always wanted to make my own wallpapers. It was only two days ago i had the courage to actually put some of them on dA and wondered if anybody would look at them. I was amazed when people not only looked but they downloaded and favourited and left comments. I can't tell you what a boost this gave me as i have had ill health for a long time. I was over the moon. So i'm glad dA is still here and i hope it's here for a long time to come.It's done my self confidence no end of good. Thanks.
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TheBigBadFish [2008-04-15 20:50:21 +0000 UTC]
*Kidnaps the Whole DA team*
I Have them, Thats why the LINK DOESNT WORK
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mjvictoriano In reply to ??? [2008-04-14 21:41:11 +0000 UTC]
WOOOWW! I REALLY REALLY enjoyed this lecture!! This is so interesting! God! It must have been really hard to keep track of all of those legal impediments and troubles...
And that thing about bankruptcy... I know it's not a good comparation but it is SOOOO awfull when you play Age of Empires or that sort of games and you're running out of resources. It's really frustrating to see how everything you've worked for is dripping away :S
Anyways, CONGRATULATIONS!! After all, you've managed to have the largest art community in the WHOLE WORLD! DeviantART is the BEST, THE BEST!!!
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Xanside In reply to ??? [2008-03-26 08:18:56 +0000 UTC]
And who says you shouldn't invest in .com's?
You can have my money anytime $pyed, you and the rest of the fatcats
only joking Intresting read though...
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strangeillusion In reply to ??? [2008-03-19 07:39:21 +0000 UTC]
Never thought of making a movie with this story? You guys are awesome! I love this place.
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Blaze-The-Kitty-Cat In reply to ??? [2008-03-08 01:46:55 +0000 UTC]
I never knew that. Woow!
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Lone-Moony [2008-03-03 17:38:12 +0000 UTC]
Wooow
it seems like a legendary story
Keep up the great work and keep moving in your successfulness journey
so good luck
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esposocios [2008-02-19 08:40:13 +0000 UTC]
Greetings Spyed, Can we translate this journal into Spanish? So in that way, a lot of Hispanic Deviant can know the whole history of DeviantART?
From Colombia greetings
Eduardo Wheeler
Admin of *noticias
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esposocios In reply to spyed [2008-06-13 04:28:19 +0000 UTC]
Angelo thank you very very much for giving us the permission to translate this journal into Spanish. It was translated by a friend and we have published it here --> [link] .
It was revised several occasions to be as precise as possible. Greetings Angelo, and Thanks for your support.
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esposocios In reply to spyed [2008-02-23 16:08:31 +0000 UTC]
Angelo, the translation is finished and there are some questions I wanted to ask you for the report on *noticias
1) With over 6 millions registered users deviantART is nowadays one of the most importants art and design websites, but it is also becoming an incredible web to get to know other people ... what do you think of those who claim dA is looking more and more like a web of MySpaece kind?
2) In a web ruled by the English the Spanish language is becoming more important by the day, there are even some Gallery directors who speak spanish ... you are a programmer so I ask you, how far is the time for the Hispanics to be able to use the letter "ñ" in the deviations titles?
3) For Angelo as a person, Which have been the 5 greatest joys that have been brought to you from building and working at deviantArt?
4) In seven years deviantART has gone through five versions, what new things and changes are coming to dA?
5) This April 30th the hispanics are celebrating for 2nd year in a row "día del hispano en deviantART" (the hispanic day on dA), what message can you send to all the hispanics reading this report?
Thank you so much for your time and Support Angelo
Eduardo Wheeler.
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DAPoliticalForum [2008-02-17 22:35:48 +0000 UTC]
I am thinking about featuring this in our club journal. Would that be inappropriate?
*SwordOfScotland DAPF Club Founder
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DAPoliticalForum In reply to spyed [2008-02-19 00:00:55 +0000 UTC]
Dear $spyed ,
Thank you for your prompt response to my post. I can't thank you enough for the work you have done in creating deviantART , thus creating an outlet for our art, and a social and political gathering point for all of us.
In my meager efforts I have created (Founded, if you will) 5 Forum Clubs and/or Information Centers. Because of that, I cannot even begin to imagine the enormous job you, and your staff, have taken on to manage all of deviantART.
*SwordOfScotland
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spyed In reply to DAPoliticalForum [2008-02-19 07:14:03 +0000 UTC]
ah ha!
so you can see it a bit, can you?
it's quite the hot room up in here. but we were built for it, love it, and have the full support of the community to help us guide it and support it.
it's a true giant love affair, what can i say. with all the beauties and challenges of any relationship worth having.
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Cthylla In reply to ??? [2008-02-10 20:27:03 +0000 UTC]
thank you for giving us deviantART!
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ericthom57 [2008-01-17 04:53:41 +0000 UTC]
Since a friend first pointed me to dA and I discovered this wonderful community, I have often wondered about its history. Tonight I stumbled (quite by accident) upon the story above.
Having been involved as a lead in a start-up (newspaper business) I can relate to many of the trials and tribulation you have been through with dA. You discovered, as did I, that the old saying that what doesn't kill you actually does make you stronger!
Thanks for producing dA and keeping it a strong, viable community.
Continued success to you guys!
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ttnn [2007-12-09 15:13:21 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the writeup; thanks for the site; and, of course, congratulations!
But here's the BIG question:
Whayddya mean by "Deviant"?
Is there anything, really, devious about this site, or about the artwork submitted by any of the founders?
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Blue-Cherub In reply to ??? [2007-11-16 17:01:55 +0000 UTC]
I'm thrilled just like everybody else is! Thank you!
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deadlyMETAL In reply to ??? [2007-11-11 15:27:27 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad(to say the least) deviantART stayed here.
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eythan In reply to ??? [2007-10-24 02:20:52 +0000 UTC]
This is incredibly curious. A great read.
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vivelda In reply to ??? [2007-09-05 08:14:21 +0000 UTC]
WOW the history of dA. i've always wanted to know this
looks like a miracle has happened
and i'm so glad that it did
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Baz135 In reply to ??? [2007-09-05 00:48:34 +0000 UTC]
well despite the fact that i didn't understand half of that it was still pretty interesting
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hiroshichansama [2007-08-29 09:41:59 +0000 UTC]
ow my eyes so many words.. lol
kinda cool, how deviantart started and all.. deviantart rox!
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Elrasiel In reply to ??? [2007-06-30 01:08:13 +0000 UTC]
Really fascinating! Never realized how hard it can be to build up a site like this.
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StarbucksDream In reply to ??? [2007-06-27 15:32:31 +0000 UTC]
Sounds like a real nice fairy tale. Then again, living in Hollywood would give anyone a vivid imagination.
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Heidi-the-Hedgehog [2007-06-20 20:17:26 +0000 UTC]
OMG!!!!! is an awesome and very interesting story, congratulations to all of you!!!
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celia-rose [2007-06-13 02:22:33 +0000 UTC]
I just learned something new now I appreciate dA even more than when my friend first showed it to me in sixth grade (still took forever before I got an account, though
)
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KVirtanen [2007-06-12 20:26:27 +0000 UTC]
Wonderful info..! I remember hearing about this site when I was a school kid. I'd always thought it was packed full of nerds with their pixel art (kidding) My place back then was the now late traxinspace . com. Glad to be here though : ) This place is huge now! You know, deviantART has already spread to Finnish news too..!
High-five...!
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