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Description Tried out a new art style kinda thing. Did this as practice. Took ~an hour or so. Really love this particular dinosaur- wish I saw it around in media a lot more. No real references used, just glanced at a drawing of one and did the rest from memory.
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acepredator In reply to ??? [2014-09-20 23:38:21 +0000 UTC]

T. Rex is only 5-6 tons.

and Spinosaurus is not weak just because it eats fish.

your cat eats meat, while a croc eats fish, so by your logic your cat should easily kill any croc.

I. Am not the idiot here. You are.Β 

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-09-21 14:06:44 +0000 UTC]

I dont have a cat. And cat's lack the tools to kill any croc over 4 feet long. Advanced brains still need the tools too help it. Cats can kill small baby crocs, but once the armor is thick enough, cat can't do squat. But the Croc can cause now cat is on the menu. Crocs will take anything they can overpower. That is how they are built. That is how all predators are built. And Spinosaurus may have a croc shaped snout, but it does not act like a croc, it is not built like a croc, and it is far too weak to have the huge diet of Sarcosuchas.

7-9, because of it's muscly bulk. T Rex is ripped compared to most super predators, and more muscle increases your mass. If you take a skinny man that weighs 150 pounds, send him to the Marines, and weigh him when he comes back, he will weigh almost 50 more, and that weight came from his muscles growing in size, increasing his overall mass. T Rex was smaller than Gigantosaurus, and Charcarodontasaurus, but was still almost as heavy. T Rex was built for intense combat. Spinosaurus was built to catch fish.

Then give me solid, irrefutible proof that you are correct. I have done that many times over in great detail. All you spit out is nonsense with no logic behind it, and no understanding of biology. I said it before, size, power and intelligence are the factors in one on one battle. No where did i say that brainpower is all that is necessary. I said the Rex is only slightly smaller, so size is not the issue between Rex and Spino, it was intelligence and power. Those factors negate the slightly larger size of the Spino. Read the words carefully next time. And give up already, you lost. I again disproved you. Hell here is a list of things I proved right and you were wrong about them. The False Gharial is not a good comparison to Spino. The Rex tooth is serrated. The Spino's skull is not built to handle a super bite or even large prey. It's spines as a weakness. Rex's bite as a effective killing weapon. Your damn giant dino eating fish that were not, and several more that are just stupid for you to even bring. All of these that you said made the Spino the most bad ass predator on land, actually show it was a wuss compared to the Rex. Piss off, this is the big leagues, not preschool.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-09-21 17:10:48 +0000 UTC]

I am just asking why in the world would a 6 ton poorly armed predator easily destroy a 12 ton well-armed equally advanced predator.

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-09-22 00:41:14 +0000 UTC]

And i gave you the anwser. What we thought about both dinosaurs is incorrect. Science has shown that Spinosaurus was not a true super predator by nature, just size. It was built for catching fish and much smaller weaker prey, its skull was too weak to handle large prey near it's size which the Rex was, only 7-10 feet shorter at least, couple tons lighter, because T Rex is and proven to be 7-9 tons due to the fact that 6 tons at 40-43 feet and 13 tall, would make it a lightweight. It was near the weight of Gigantosaurus(8-10 tons) and Charcharodontosaurus (9-11 tons), both dinos are only just little bit bigger. And Spinosaurus being a fish eater is around 10-12 tons. Not much heavier. T Rex was thought to be 14 tons long ago, then it was thought to be 5, but technology has shown us that due to the extreme amount of muscle attatched to it's bones, it was around normal 7-9 tons. And science has also shown us T Rex was by far the most advanced super predator to ever walk.Β  Those arms are small to allow it too wield that giant head around. And that neck is short like a crocs because it is packed full of muscle to help the Rex swing it around like a one ton battering ram and sledgehammer. As i said, Spinosaurus had a weak skull that was too thin too allow it to handle large prey, if you look at all the super predator's, they have more robust skulls sitting on a neck shorter than Spino's. The reason is a neck that long prevents powerful muscles from being able to support the neck when grappling with large prey. Grab something heavy and hold your arm out, not easy to do for very long with one arm. Hold the item and pull your arm closer to your body, and it is much easier. Same thing goes for the Spino's skull. It was not as robust or even as heavy as the skull of Sarcosuchus, even Spino's teeth are no where near as robust and strong as as crocs. Spino's arms are also limited, they have poor wrist movement, and can't really help much in fighting large rivals. Only raptor like dino's have arms useful for fighting. The Rex on the other hand, was built for the fight. Like i said preveously, T Rex's head is robust, and powerfully built. It's bite can kill unarmored prey in a single bite to the neck. And there is evidence that it could open it's mouth very wide, between 80 and 100 degrees. It had the most powerful bite of any terrestrial animal. It had the biggest and strongest teeth of any terrestrial animal, it could kill incredibly dangerous prey, it's brain and senses were incredibly advanced. T Rex could see better than an eagle, and both have binoculor vision. Spinosaurus could not even come close. Ours was better than Spino's.Β  Spinosaurus was not equipped to kill large prey near it's size or weight. T Rex was. Who told you Spinosaurus was the baddest dino on the planet was wrong. Spinosaurus vs T Rex is like bringing a bb gun to a shotgun. All evidence is there kid, look it up. Look at all the sites, and they all say the same thing, T Rex was one of the most advanced predator on land. Spinosaurus was just the longest.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-09-22 00:45:59 +0000 UTC]

Both are super predators.

while Spino is far from the baddest dinosaur T. Rex is just as far if not even farther in prey size.Β 

T. Rex couldn't hunt crocodiles or monster fish. Spinosaurus could kill smaller dinosaurs from time to time as well.

and neither could hunt sauropods like the carnosaurs did.

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-09-22 13:09:52 +0000 UTC]

Not what the forensic evidece tells us. T Rex was literally built to kill extremely dangerous animals. Otherwise it would not be able to kill ceratopsians, Ankylosaurus, Sauropods, even its own kind. T Rex could easily kill Spino. Gigantosaurus and Charcharodontasaurus on the other hand pose a challenge. T Rex has the better brain, but the Giganto and Charcharo have speed. Their weapons are their mouths, but the Rex prefers massive chunks, while the other two prefer slashing of bits and pieces. A battle between them is annoyingly hard. And while the Rex can't hunt fish, it may have fed on an the alligators extinct relative, Deinosuchus, which grew to 36-40 feet. Can't kill it in the water, but on land is another matter. Without the protection of the water, stranded crocodilians are vulnerable. They can't move as fast on land, and can't run for long. And with the Rex's bite, it's armor is useless. And the Rex can easily feed on Alamosaurus, those legs are round enough for the Rex to bite a good chunk off. Alamosaurus was not a giant colossis like the Diploticads. It was smaller. And with such a huge chunk missing from it's leg, it will either die of blood loss, exaustion, infection or just fall over because of the pain in its leg, allowing the Rex to feed. Carnosaurs, rarely fed on adult sauropods unless they were the smaller ones. Gigantosaurus is the only carnosaur that regularly fed on giants. Mainly do to the fact that they hunted Argentinasaurus in groups, and they would constantly go in to get a bite and back off. while another would rush in and take a bite. This would cause the giant to die of blood loss. But one on one with a giant sauropod is suicide, that massive tail could kill a Gigantosaurus. They can get squished if the sauropod falls on them. Trust me, studying animals and paleontology is my passion, and figuring out how extinct carnivores hunt is part of my job.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-09-22 15:23:39 +0000 UTC]

the dinosaur did not live with the 40 foot gator and it was the other way around.

sawfish and crocs aren't dangerous prey?

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-09-22 23:22:24 +0000 UTC]

Oh yes it did. Look it up. Deinosuchus lived in the time range of T Rex and location as well.

Crocs yes, for the Rex. For Spino, both can be dangerous, but only the Sarcosuchus as an adult is untouchable, it is too big for Spino, and of both aquatic animals, only Sarcosuchus can kill Spino, Sawfish won't hurt much.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-09-23 00:37:11 +0000 UTC]

First of all, Deinosuchus lived ten million years before T. rex. Any good source should tell you that.

Second Sarcosuchus lived 15 million years before Spinosaurus.

You seem to seriously overestimate T. rex while seriously underesttimating underwater predators.Β 

A sawfish at worst could decapitate both of the giant predators.

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-09-24 00:22:57 +0000 UTC]

I said before, sawfish teeth are not sharp or long enough to kill giant predators.

Deinosuchus died off around 73 million. T Rex first appeared around 67 million.
Sarcosuchus and Spinosaurus lived 112 million.

I don't overestimate the Rex. Its main weakness are it's arms. They are too small to catch itself if it falls on it's chest. Serious to fatal injury can occur when this happens.
I don't underestimate underwater predators. I said they are just almost no threat on land.

I have a degree in paleontology and biology kid. I have the books and access to the necessary equipment for paleontology.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-09-24 19:18:12 +0000 UTC]

The thing is while Spinosaurus may be weaker on land, in absolute terms it is still a much stronger beast.

besides, T. rex has NO power whatsoever in water.

Meaning that the giant alligator never lived with the dinosaur. Besides, there is at least one confirmed case of a Deinosuchus trying to eat a live tyrannosaur (healed over bite marks).
Sarcosuchus lived 115 million years ago while Spinosaurus lived 100 to 90 million years ago.

Sawfish use their rostrums to slash, cut and bisect prey. IT IS NOT A DIGGING OR DETECTING TOOL.

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-09-24 21:14:48 +0000 UTC]

Slash yes, decapitate small prey yes. Kill or seriously harm larger predators, not really. Sawfish swing their head from side to side, cutting and stunning prey. In defense, that is all it can do. But against predators much larger than it, might as well just be called a scratcher.

Never said the Rex had power in water. Just the most power on land. About 5 times more power than any other terrestrial carnivore.

That is not what the carbon dating says bout Sarcosuchus and Spinosaurus. The carbon dating tests i ran say 120-115 million for Sarcosuchus, and 118-116 for Spino.

I am right again. You keep failing kid. Adding Deinosuchus to my list of victories. Just give up kid, your are arguing with a professional. How many times do i have to tell you?

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-09-25 00:33:58 +0000 UTC]

Sawfish can and do seriously injure large animals in defence.

Rex is weaker than some carnosaurs.Β 

Saying I made fails is a fail, because I hadn't made any.

Stop lying about being a professional when just a bit of common sense should tell you a 6-ton predator not built to kill anything bigger than itself cannot kill a opponent larger than itself.

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-09-25 21:16:18 +0000 UTC]

Says the kid who is younger than 20, doesn't have a paying job and never went to college.

Crocs eat sawfish with immunity. Croc skin is tough enough to limit damage from sawfish teeth. Hell those teeth won't scratch the armored back. And since the largest sawfish reached 35 feet, those teeth won't do much to a massive predator covered in thick skin.

One bite from a Rex can kill anything its mouth can wrap around, including Spinosaurus and adult Alamosaurus. And there is no carnosaur stronger than the Rex. Faster yes, but physically stronger, no. Carnosaurs use their mouth mostly. And so does the Rex. And since the Rex has the most powerful skull of all therapods, it has more power. And again, no evidence says it was 6 tons. That would mean Charcharadontasaurus and Gigantosaurus were just as light, but they weren't. All three were 7-9 tons plus. These were serious predators with muscle, and the more muscle you have, the heavier you are. Physics kid.

How does a wolverine kill an adult bull moose? The moose is 4 times the size.

Β I proved you wrong about the False Gharial, the fish, the Rex's teeth, giant crocs living with the Rex and Spino, and several others.

Don't believe any of it, then go and find another pro and ask them. They will say the same thing. All you are is a whiny little brat who ignores scientific evidence. Look at us. You can have smaller lighter people beat up taller heavier people. Why? Because they were stronger and smarter. The Rex had a very advanced brain, and alot of strength. Combine those and you get a powerful fighter. The Rex was not much smaller than the three slightly larger predators, but it was smarter and stronger. Evidence of it's strength is well known since it fed on the most dangerous prey. Ankylosaurus, ceratopsians, sauropods. Any of these can easily kill a Rex, so the Rex became physically stronger than any other therapod. Why else would it have a short powerful neck supporting the most powerfully advanced therapod skull ever found with the most powerful bite of any land animal? To quickly kill any food source with a devastating bite in one attack. And that food can be smaller or slightly larger.

You lost kid, deal with it. I have done my research over a long time. So should you.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-09-25 23:28:08 +0000 UTC]

Stop insulting me. And Rex did not hunt sauropods. Both these animals are relatively weak but because one is twice as large as the other it automatically wins.

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-09-26 02:59:34 +0000 UTC]

Then why can a wolverine kill an adult bull moose? Why can a physically stronger yet smaller person beat up a larger less physically stong person and win? How can Nile Croc's take out 2000 pound water buffalo? Size means nothing if you have the power. And the Rex has the power. No therapod can kill an animal their size in one bite, or remove 500 pounds of flesh in one bite, except the Rex. The Rex has the brains and the power to kill anything near it's size, slightly larger or smaller than itself. It is known in the paleontological community as fact kid. And check out the size of Alamosaurus kid, it MAY have been the largest animal in NA at the time, but it was still prey. One bite to the leg, 500 pounds of flesh missing, and it falls. Type in Alamosaurus and T Rex and look for any photos of their skeletons side by side. The Rex can easily kill that. Its legs and neck are vulnerable. And with it's strategic brain, it will stay clear of it while it waits for the bite to take effect. Rush in, bite, retreat. Its what Gigantosaurus would do to Argentinasaurus. And we know for a fact they hunted full grown Argentinasaurus. With the right tools and the knowledge, you can accomplish any thing. And both of these super predators had the tools to get the job done. After all they are near identical size. Just one though is phsically stronger (Rex) , and the other is faster (Gigantosaurus). Hell even Acrocanthosaurus hunted sauropods. Large predators can kill whatever they want as long as they have the tools too do so. Spino was a fish eater in general, but could feed on stranded, plesiosaurs and their kin. Giganto, Acro, and T Rex fed on large dangerous prey, and that includes sauropods. The major differance between them was method of attack. Acro and Giganto had slashing teeth in a slender jaw, so they rushed in to make several deep slash wounds too weaken the sauropod. The Rex had bone crushing teeth in a wide jaw to deliver bone crushing bites, so they would attack the legs to either break the bone inside or take a massive bite and remove 500 pounds of flesh. T Rex was a tank. It would run in, bite and get out of dodge, and let its one bite take it's toll. The two carnosaurs had speed. They rushed in to make lots of quit bites. No matter how you look at it, all three are effective. After all, you don't get the most powerful bite of all terrestrial animals just to feed on small animals. That bite helps to compensate for lack of speed by letting it kill large prey faster. Less energy required to make a kill too. And when you are a predator, the less energy spent, and the faster the kill, the more energy you gain, and that is necessary when you are a predator.

Why, are they hitting their mark? THEN GROW UP AND DO YOUR DAMN RESEARCH BEFORE ARGUING WITH AN EXPERT IN THEIR FEILD!

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-09-26 03:02:35 +0000 UTC]

They are built to kill things bigger than themselves.
And they were killing herbivores not other predators.

a Rex or Spino isn't.

while a Rex certainly has more killing power on land, the huge size of its opponent is just too much.

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-09-26 14:06:53 +0000 UTC]

A moose is very dangerous prey. Even Grizzly bears take caution. You have no evidence to support your farce of a theory that the Rex was weak. Your theory would also mean that other theropods greater than 35 feet would be just as weak. You have given no evidence. T Rex bones tail bones, leg bones, skull and neck all show heavy muscle attachment points. And if the Rex was weak, it would not have the most powerful bite for a terrestrial carnivore. You have 24 hours before this argument ends in my victory to support your claim. Starting now. And you better not make it short kid. Short argument points get you no where in the scientific community, and that is all you have given so far.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-09-26 19:12:57 +0000 UTC]

Heavy muscle attachment, yes. But the others have it all as well except in some cases the jaws (and that does not matter as a throat-ripping cut is even deadlier than a crushed neck)

a battle between these two giants on land will be a stalemate. While Spino probably won't try to attack Rex Rex most certainly cannot attack Spino at all.

the gape of tyrannosaurs are narrower than other groups meaning they cannot bite thing bigger than themselves. Show me proof they killed anything larger than themselves.Β 

The serrations in this species seem to be gripping devices, especially since the jaws do not open very wide and the teeth provide an attachment plane to prey rather than a cutting edge.

in short, at best this match is a stalemate with no one doing anything, at worst this is a mismatch.

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-09-26 23:36:34 +0000 UTC]

Crushed neck is instant death. Bleed out can take 30 or more seconds. Broken necks mean the brain is cut off from the rest of the body, killing instantly. Plus, that bite the Rex has can crush the skull of another predator near it's size with ease. A bite to the skull would also end in death.

Bones of a triceratops hip show a Rex attacked it's back, this means it could open it's mouth very wide. Over 160 degrees. Most theropods that size open just around that area.

Serrations don't help grip, they help slice. Conical teeth help grip. Conical teeth act like spears, serrated teeth act like steak knives.

The short neck helps with extreme torque, ie rotation. This means the Rex can grab something and hold on with little damage to it's neck. Look at the thickness of the neck compared to other similar sized theropods, they are thinner and longer. This longer neck allows quick bites, but can't handle large thrashing prey that well. That thick neck also allows the Rex to rip out 500 pounds of flesh, and since it's skull when alive would weigh nearly 2000 pounds, that neck is meant to withstand extreme stress.

With almost no height difference between the Rex and the Spino, the Spino's neck is in range of an attack, even a bite to the Spino's skull would be lethal. And since the Spino's neck is not as flat as the back of a Trike, the Rex can easily open it's mouth and grab it.

No proof necessary when animals like Nile crocs have been documented taking out water buffalo weighing 2000 pounds plus, much heavier than the croc that attacked it. Both the Rex and the croc are ambush predators. The Rex would attack the leg of Alamosaurus and take out a large chunk of it. Then wait for the blood loss or the shock to set in. They even fought themselves, so they are well adapted to hard fighting.

The Rex has a more advanced mind than the Spino. It can easily out think it. The Rex had to feed on dangerous prey, so it needed to strategize how to kill without being killed. Spino did not need to think like this. It mostly used its size to discourage attacks.

You failed. Your attempt at providing accurate data was laughably weak. Seriously, serrations acting as gripping device? Their is only one use for serrations on teeth, cutting. Get the hell out of here brat. Learn more.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-09-27 00:44:09 +0000 UTC]

Brain size does not equal intellect.

Even with the serration tyrannosaur teeth are grippers rather than slicers.

Have you actually seen what actual experts like Tom Holtz think?

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-09-27 21:52:32 +0000 UTC]

Serrated teeth are slicers. Gripping teeth are like Spinosaurus's or Masiakasaurus's. The reason is easy to know. If you have serrated teeth, you biite and pull. The Rex's have to be robust because otherwise they would wear out from biting into bone. The serrations have to be able to last.

Did not say brain size. Said most advanced. Superior sight, hearing and smell compared too most giant theropods, including Spinosaurus. The Rex's eyes slowly got better over time, till it's visual acuity surpassed an eagle's.

Tom Holtz helped prove what a farce of a theory Jack Horner's idea that the Rex was exclusively a scavenger was. He showed that the Rex actively hunted, and had a strategic mind. He helped paleontologist realize the Rex is a Coelurosaur. And what does that group include? Troodons. And Dromeasuars. Some of the smartest dinos. Look up the Coelurosaur family, and Toodon and Dromeosaurs in the bottom infraorder. If you have intelligence and weapon that can kill in an instant, you are really damn powerfull.

Just shut up punk. Go to school and learn. And in the predator world, their is no draw, one wins, the other loses.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-09-28 01:49:55 +0000 UTC]

He also realizes that tyrannosaurs weren't giant prey hunters.Β 

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-09-29 22:57:07 +0000 UTC]

And when did he say this?

Gigantosaurus kill giant sauropods. T Rex is near the size of Giganto, but with a better skull. Which means it can kill sauropods. It can kill stranded Deinosuchus. It can kill anything on land that lived in its range. T Rex most likely hunted in packs, which increases the ability to take out full grown giants. One bite to the leg is all that is needed to topple a sauropod, since 500 pounds of muscle missing is alot of blood vessels and possible arterial damage is high. One bite to the femoral artery and the sauropod dies in minutes.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-09-30 00:10:33 +0000 UTC]

T. rex does not have a better skull, just a different skull.

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-09-30 22:08:43 +0000 UTC]

Let's see, teeth that are larger and stronger than any other theropod teeth ever found, check. Skull that has forward facing eye sockets giving the Rex better vision than any other larger theropod, check. Skull that can exert a multi ton bite and not recieve any damage from said bite, check. The areas the ears are located allowed unusually large cochlea to develop, allowing the Rex to hear better in the lower range. Check. Immense muscle attatchment points on skull to allow the Rex too use it like a sledgehammer, check. Skull with a very wide and deep mouth that enabled the Rex too remove 500 pounds of flesh in one bite, check. Enlarged nasal cavities too allow the largest olfactory bulbs in a dinosaur ever found, which allowed the Rex too locate prey or other predators from a very large distance, check. All of this beats any other giant theropod skull in effectiveness for hunting and killing. The Rex can sniff out other predators and hunt them before the other predator would even know it's there. Hell the Rex could see and hear them before they could attack the Rex. Out of all the giant theropods, T Rex has THE most advanced skull AND brain. And for good reason. T Rex lived in the harshest and most dangerous time of the Cretaceous. Prey like Triceratops and Ankylosaurus could kill any predator, volcanic fume traps were everywhere, giant alligators in rivers and lakes, super hot volcanic springs, and prey levels at an all time low. These conditions create powerful predators.

You lost kid, game over.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-09-30 22:12:18 +0000 UTC]

teeth designed for crushing with no cutting edge.

T. rex is NOT the most advanced theropod. that is complete BS.

Tyrannosaurs were actually underdogs for the most part until a mass mid-Cretaceous extinction event killed off the others that you severely underrate.

You severely overrate Rex, saying it could do things it could not and using the outdated "advanced" theory to support you baseless claims.

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-10-02 00:16:21 +0000 UTC]

says the kid who claims the Rex has no serrations, when the purpose of serrations is to cut flesh.

Your issue is the fact that you don't look at all the facts. I have given them. If T Rex has more abilities that surpass other giant theropods, that means it is more advanced. The Rex has the best eyesight, the best bite, the best sense of smell, the most strategic mind. Abilities that are not unique to other giant theropods, but are at a higher level than Gigantosaurus, Charcharadontosaurus, Spinosaurus and Acrocanthosaurus. All they have is size and arms, size is not an issue since they are near the Rex's size anyway. The head of T Rex is more advanced. And one of the key reasons is the fact that T Rex belongs to the group of dinosaurs that contains the most intelligent theropods. The coelurasaurs, which contain the raptors and troodons. Animals with tool that other theropods have, but more advanced.

You lost kid, game over. You gave no scientific facts too back up your claims. What i gave is supported by most of the paleontological community. Now shut up and go away brat.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-10-02 00:22:35 +0000 UTC]

Stop insulting me.

You are comparing apples to oranges. Carnosaur bite strips flesh from bone, tyrannosaur bites crush necks and spinosaur bites restrain prey. any comparison is irrelevant.Β 

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-10-03 06:17:13 +0000 UTC]

Incorrect, the swifter the kill, the less energy spent in the hunt and the likelihood of injury is minimal. Predators who hunt dangerous prey must kill prey fast to avoid spending too much energy or getting hurt in the process. Crushed neck or skull is an instant kill, which the Rex is capable of doing. That makes it an efficient killer. Carnosaurs must make multiple bites to large prey too kill it quickly, or wait too bleed out, which requires more energy to be spent. You are a child, i am an expert in zoology, paleontology and biology. Studying predator's is my prime specialty in these fields. The Rex was built too kill large prey in one attack. No other theropod was built too do this. You are out of your league squirt. Go eat a cookie, drink some milk and do some damn research on predator hunting strategies, biology, bio-mechanics, and zoology. T Rex had a strong bite for a reason. The same reason most crocs have a strong bite, too kill quickly and efficiently in an ambush by attacking the legs, neck or head of an animal. A 8-14 ton bite to the skull, neck or leg by a Rex will either kill or fatally cripple it's target in one shot. And since the Rex has serrated teeth, and can remove 500 pounds of flesh and bone in one bite, that means chances of surviving a full bite are slim, cause even a bite to the leg will be fatal due to massive blood loss. Just shut up and go play some video games ya ignorant punk. Seriously, every true paleontologist, zoologist and biologist know that serrations on teeth serve one function and one function only, to cut flesh and help remove the flesh from the body. You thinking otherwise is more than enough proof to tell me you are an idiot. You don't do the research and you make all the mistakes of a 8 year old. Get off this site kid, you humiliated yourself. You have shown the rest of the community on here that you have no expertise in this field, especially when you try to say size is everything no matter what. The wolverine is always the perfect example. Adult bull moose are very dangerous and can easily trample wolverines, yet they are frequently preyed upon by wolverines. Power and intelligence can bring down even the mightiest of foes, no matter the size. And T Rex has the power and intelligence. The most powerful bite. The best vision and sense of smell of any giant theropod. The biggest and strongest teeth of any theropod. And the ability to stratigize and take out highly dangerous prey. These are all proven abilities and tools the Rex had. And all this points to a very, VERY serious predator, one that could easily take out the great Spinosaurus, who had a weak skull, poor vision for a theropod, weak sense of smell, and a mediocre bite force. All of this says the Rex can kill the Spino. Don't believe me, than go and talk to a zoologist or your science teacher.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-10-03 19:12:53 +0000 UTC]

You go talk to a professional paleontologist.

Senses are useful in a hunt but this isn't a hunt. it's a brawl.

Yes, but in this case the serrations are not associated with cutting edges. it could TEAR the head off but would not cut.

you don't need a strong bite for a fast kill.

Please, stop with the insults. You are only humiliating yourself by thinking of T.rex as this invincible god-like force.

There is no way that it can kill something twice its size. you need a very different predator for that.

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-10-04 17:01:21 +0000 UTC]

Eyesight useless? You are dumb.

In the theropod world, the faster the kill the better. Killing instantly is very efficient. Killing with slashes is efficient, but not as efficient.

Never said the Rex was invicible.

No theropod has a head as massive as the Rex. Giant theropods use their heads in battle most of the time, they don't have the proper arm build to make the arms an effective weapon.

Spino does not stand twice as tall, it is only longer.

I am a proffesional paleontologist, I graduated college with a bachelors degree in paleontology. I even talked to Tom Holtz Jr when i was in college. He agrees that size is not everything if you have the power, and since the Spino's neck was in range, T Rex could easily kill it. Now good bye brat, I won. I will not be responding to your petty banter. Seriously, you think eyesight doesn't help in a battle? That is the stupidest thing you have said. I can not take you seriously anymore. Next time you try and talk to me, i will delete your comment. You are not worthy of arguing with an expert if you fail to see the logic behind the fact that no theropod had a skull and neck as powerfully built as T Rex. Good bye.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-10-04 17:04:10 +0000 UTC]

senses are for hunting not fighting.

you fail to see the logic in that a strong bite is not the only way of killing something fast.

and it needed the strong bite because it was hunting things smaller than itself. it was going to to hit bone due to the small size of its targets.

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acepredator In reply to ??? [2014-09-14 01:00:10 +0000 UTC]

I already said PX was 20-25 tons.

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skysoul25 In reply to ??? [2013-10-19 06:38:09 +0000 UTC]

actaully spino could still win. i would liek to see it in a more animalstic organic form of battle.Β 

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Crazedjpfan In reply to skysoul25 [2013-10-19 17:07:49 +0000 UTC]

How could it? T Rex was built like a tank. It had the most powerful bite ever recorded, an incredibly powerful muscled neck, it even weighed almost as much as the Spino because of it's stronger build. In the film, both were almost anatomically correct, but the fight was rigged. When the Rex bit the Spino on the neck, it should have died from the three ton psi bite. Even if a bite like that did not crush the neck, the amount of flesh the Rex would have removed, about 300 pounds, would kill the Spino because of blood loss. T Rex could even use it's head like a hammer and smash the Spino's skull. I am sorry but I have studied the Rex most of my life, and studied other larger predatory dino's and the Rex is more powerfully built. The only one that the Rex might back off from, and that is a big IF, is Carcharadontasaurus. Sorry.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-09-12 12:24:14 +0000 UTC]

You are SO WRONG.

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-09-12 18:28:30 +0000 UTC]

You have given no scientific proof to back up your theories. I have.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-09-12 19:52:03 +0000 UTC]

you haven't.

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-09-12 22:17:37 +0000 UTC]

I have given more info to defend my case than you have. Look at you so called DINO EATING SUPER FISH for example.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-09-13 17:12:08 +0000 UTC]

EXcept it is 100% true and confirmed.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-09-13 13:36:01 +0000 UTC]

EXcept it is 100% true and confirmed.

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Crazedjpfan In reply to acepredator [2014-09-12 22:16:55 +0000 UTC]

All those long post's, scientific facts.

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acepredator In reply to Crazedjpfan [2014-09-13 13:35:33 +0000 UTC]

Admit it. everything you said suggests a fanboy.

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skysoul25 In reply to Crazedjpfan [2013-10-19 19:35:23 +0000 UTC]

well i am not sam neil Β the dino expect like you my friend. Β I'm morwe jeff goldblum minus the "oohs" and "umms". lol

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Crazedjpfan In reply to skysoul25 [2013-10-21 13:19:25 +0000 UTC]

gotta throw one more quote in
" Mr. Hammond. I have decided not to endorse your park."

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skysoul25 In reply to Crazedjpfan [2013-10-21 13:20:17 +0000 UTC]

yes becuase giant scottish female dinosuar ladies are killign everyone Β 

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Crazedjpfan In reply to skysoul25 [2013-10-23 16:51:32 +0000 UTC]

" Clever girl...YEEARRGHH!"

I actually liked Muldoon more than Grant.

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Crazedjpfan In reply to skysoul25 [2013-10-21 23:11:54 +0000 UTC]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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skysoul25 In reply to Crazedjpfan [2013-10-21 23:15:36 +0000 UTC]

Β 

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