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Suggestivism
Birth of a New Category or Beginning of the End of Categories?
by techgnotic
Just when you thought there couldn’t possibly be another “ism” on the art world horizon, what with the growing accessibility of all
art technique and technology rendering all the “schools of art” equally available and doable and therefore making impossible the dominance
or even existence of any current art “movement” … comes “suggestivism,” the “ism” best summing up what art is in our lives today, defined
more by what it is not, rather than what it is.
"Suggestivist" art is not slave to any one particular type of current art, from pencils to oils to photo-manipulation. It’s not about technology or technique.
It’s largely apolitical and need not promote any particular “message.” Whether defined by Sadakichi Hartmann (circa. 1900; the first to coin
the term) as simply being a reaction to overly cerebral and insufficiently poetic art in all its forms, from canvases to literature, or by Nathan
Spoor, a current artist and advocate, as a “process” by which the artist lets go of constrictive didactic narratives and dogmatic theories and lets
the will of his or her muse take over so that truly poetic art can be created, whether that art “makes sense” or not. The artist allows the soul of
his deepest artistic intuitions “suggest” what to create, without all the over-thinking. The artist can ponder the “meaning” of the vision produced
later, along with everyone else. The one thing that “suggestivist” artworks have in common is that the viewer is encouraged (compelled!) to imagine
his or her own interpretation of the piece. These artworks generally always have recognizable elements, but the real world ends there, as these
elements are usually then twisted into the impossible conjunctures of mad dream logic. Suggestivist art can sometimes suggest the frightening and
haunting, but usually the emphasis is on the playful and wildly unapologetically creative.
“Suggestivism” is as apolitical as our largely apolitical times, though usually informed with ambiguous political memes and imagery. It is an art
for our times that does not ask to be analyzed and understood, but presents itself as a cipher or puzzle with no correct answer that commands attention
none the less. Or it could be just the latest petulant reaction to a public perception of arts experts talking over our heads in their own secret language about what we should and should not like.
Time will tell.
Perhaps the greatest thing about “suggestivist” art is the very fact that it is so... “suggestive.” It’s the ultimate resource for artists (pop & fine),
musicians, writers, dancers or just dedicated daydreamers who feel a bit blocked. Re-charging the creative batteries only requires you spend a little time
creating your own stories to fit the magical creations and constructions of these works, and one’s own inner engines of fantasy and whimsy will soon be
sweetly humming again.
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If not your beliefs, then what are you portraying? Art comes from the soul, so whatever's in there, be it political or not, is what needs to come out and show itself.
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Lol, what kind of person has "politics" in his or her soul...
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Politics is made up of what people believe and how they see the world, and isn't that what art is all about?
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I don't think so... I think that art is about creating beauty and meaning, and not simply "expressing yourself"...
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If it has a meaning, then it expresses something the artist believes. If it doesn't have meaning, then it doesn't matter.
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That's not at all how I see it...
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1) Either or, or neither. Is it a problem either way? And if so, why?
2) Is the presence of a movement more important than expressing the art? If it is either good or bad, who are we (or anyone else) to brand it good or bad?
3) I figure out if I like or dislike a piece of art. I feel that if an artist wants to make an intent or message known through their work, that I would feel it immediately, much like a person. If I have to dig for it, it is likely personal or private and I would feel much the same way as if I were prying and poking into an actual person's emotions. Uncomfortable.
4) Neither. I do not have sufficient technique nor is my work aesthetic or complex enough in general to conceal any sort of meaning. I am not that deep of a person and I can be straightforward to anyone about that.
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"suggestivism"? What a piece of shite, the linked images here are just surrealism and other usual and common things. There's nothing hipster about. Damn, this blog entry is so incredible stupid and pointless.
THERE IS NO NEW "ISM"... damn.
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ohhh yeah and btw it's pretty fucked up featuring and even DD'ing an image clearly showing GORE and animal mutilation.
Fuck you.
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Scott McCloud defines art as anything that does not stem directly from man's desire for survival or reproduction. It's a little too inclusive for me, but it's better than anything else I've found. It includes song, dance, drawing and painting, as well as things that are iconically and non-iconically abstracted.
I try to find meaning in whatever I'm looking at, but I can accept that there is not always any such thing. Seeing as how I make chainmaille, there isn't much opportunity to put 'meaning' into my work.
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I agree 100% except that I know that song, dance, drawing, and painting are derived from the desire to survive and in are in fact necessary for survival.
Meaning is found in the making, in the creative process. Meaning outside of the process has no meaning.
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Yes, I would be happy to elaborate. I have left 3 other replies to your original comment and I don't know if you have read them. If not, perhaps you will find sufficient elaboration there. If after this you would like more of the same kind of weirdness--I have plenty to offer. It would help if you could be more specific with your question.
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Could you explain how they are derived from a desire to survive and what makes them necessary for survival?
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Holy crap I was afraid somebody would ask that. Assuming that one desires to survive, I am just going to respond to the second part of your question. Based solely on my personal experience I find that my perception of the world, which includes the mere fact that I exist at all (survive), is formed by my mind from the input of my senses. The creative process that is involved with this formation is reflected by the expression of my desire make to visual images (deviations) that affirm that I exist. This forms an infinite loop. If you do not understand what I just said, that makes two of us.
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1. I accept that your art is a tool that helps you affirm your own existence, but if you stopped making art, would you keel over and die? It may aid survival, but it is not absolutely necessary for most people.
2. The creative process in perception is fundamentally different than the one involved with creation. In perception, your senses take very small observation, and your brain uses your past experiences and expectations to create a world that is whole, instead of fragmented. To create, your mind takes that information and instead makes something that is not already being observed, something original (inasmuch as we can call ANYTHING original).
One part creates truth, the other creates beauty. They can intermingle quite a bit, but they are different things.
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I appreciate the clarity with which you express your thoughts. I will try to do likewise with what skills I have.
1. You are moment to moment in a constant process of creating yourself. Art, as the word is generally used in discussions on this site, I am defining as a self affirming reflection of that creative process. Perhaps "reflection" is a poor word choice since the source does not depend upon its reflection for existence. What I want to assert is that these two things are mutually and equally dependent upon each other. I say this because I believe that there is an underlying foundation of reality in which these are not two separate things, but are the same thing. Thus if either were to stop, so would the other--So I would keel over and die.
2. See response above.
Not to name drop but, the poet John Keats in the last lines in "Ode on a Grecian Urn" disagrees with you.
"Beauty is truth, truth beauty," – that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.
I don't so much disagree with you, but find Keat's view often useful in my life.
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You are misusing the word survive to mean exist.
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We are probably using different dictionaries...
(Merriam-Webster.com)
Definition of SURVIVE
1. :to remain alive or in existence : live on
I've tried surviving those times when I don't exist. It doesn't work for me.
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I've never much liked the term. Mostly just because it seems so pointless. We're talking about a concept that is used in almost everything to one degree or another, and people feel the need to put it under an umbrella term? There's no need. I mean, if I were to say "I'm a Suggestivist" I would still need to explain the specifics of what I do, and that explanation would probably be completely different from any other Suggestivist's. So what's the point?
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1. Both
2. No and I'm not sure
3. Neither I usually just enjoy them though I can see the author's intent sometimes
4. The former, why bother with the technique if it has nothing to show for it?
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art in both terms should be alowed to be be created i guess. that would prevent future fights/arguments, in the long run.
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I'm not seeing a big difference between this and 'pop surrealism' or 'lowbrow art' . Some of my stuff [link] >might count.
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I kind of agree with you here.
Especially the cute mermaid one - very pop surrealistic.
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1. I have read that nothing kills art more than political art, yet art is always political. Not sure which I believe in but as long as your art doesn't entirely depend on the politics at the time, I don't see anything wrong with it.
2. In school, we do not often (or ever, really) discuss about the art world. There is too much about how to do something or why we do it, though not why it is important (or necessary, maybe?) to do art. Maybe because when you get down to it, the only reason is that we are humans who have a desire to create, to make something aesthetically pleasing. After all, how many other animals do you know expend resources just to make something look pretty?
3. The first thing anyone does, I think, is decide whether they like/dislike the piece. Perhaps sometimes the conclusion will fall somewhere in between but you can't get rid of that gut instinct to judge first. As for myself, I do that, and then rarely is it important for me to think beyond the so-called meaning, if it's not clear within the first few minutes. Afterall, you cannot read art like a sentence. Sometimes it is not even in a language you will recognize (;
4. First technique then aesthetics, and if necessary, meaning.
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1. why can't there be room for both. it's not like the space in the art world is limited in space or anything. like the universe, it's infinitely expanding. so... it's quite simple.
2. it seems that today's art is a mish-mash of nearly everything. art that has emotional meaning behind it, art that alludes to a past event, personal art, and then there are works of art that really mean nothing at all to the artist. sometimes art critics find meanings in art work that didn't even cross the mind of the original artist. i guess it all depends on a personal interpretation.
3. if the meaning or intent is readily available in my mind, then i will hold onto it. however, you can never be sure until the artists themselves, declare the meaning. even then, an art piece that means one thing to someone, can mean something different to another.
4. eh, all of the above? i do metaphorical art when i can't explain my feelings in words. im a person who can communicate better visually. heh, at this point, i wouldn't mind if i was mute. at any rate, the art that means something to me would usually be something that only i would understand. i hope to evoke a universal feeling instead. to me, that is the only thing that matters in my personal art. political art is different. usually it's a call to action rather than the transfer of pure feelings, although that is often included too.
in conclusion, i'll have you know that this is just random babble streaming out of my mind.
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this = surrealism = Experimentalism
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why choose one the caagory of art is within the beholder these are spectacular creations that make me think and astonish me more and more every time i look over them... there beautiful
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funny, i feel as though the concept that was described by Nathan Spoor is exactly what i do with my poetry / writing. unfortunately, I cannot illustrate great works of art, but I think suggestivism can apply to it as well.
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Looks an awful lot like modern day surrealism to me. Just inspired by daydreams rather than night dreams. Why make a new word for it?
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Art cannot be apolitical, since everything we choose (or choose "not to choose") is a political decision. We all have a particular vision of our world; and whether we adjust it to the views of a certain current or not, we always have a position about something. And artists express those visions through their work. A painting (or a photograph) is political per se: When we choose the content within the frame or canvass, we cut all that is outside that frame. And that is a political decision.
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My thoughts exactly! I was going to comment saying more or less the same about how impossible an apolitical art is! Well said.
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1. Totally room for both. Why limit yourself to political or apolitical?
2. I think there's a movement, but not quite sure what it is yet. I think we're moving away from the blotches of color and lines that marked the last few decades and are moving back towards recognizable objects and forms. It's almost the way poetry is written--a series of concrete images combined to produce an abstract feeling or idea. I personally, think it's a good thing. I think now that we've gotten all our raw emotions out, we can move on to more complex things.
3. This isn't really a question, because your brain already decides if you like it or not the moment you see it. Whether or not I actually look into depends on what I'm looking at. If I see a hint at a deeper meaning, I'll look for it, and it may take several looks at a certain work before I'm struck.
4. This also really depends on what I'm shooting. Almost all my photos are affected by my moods as far as how I edit them, or the original resolution. I've never really had something to say with my photography or other art, but I know there are people who *do* try to transmit a message, and I think that's cool. I also think it's okay to produce things that are beautiful for the sake of being beautiful.
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Something cannot be defined by what it is not. Because if it was it would be something else. Thanks for wasting my time.
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1) Of course there's room room for both, it's art for crying out loud - its world is endless!
2) There's been a big mix of incorporating traditional and digital to create a single piece. Everything is working together lovely!
3) I never really think about the artist's intent only because I know my thought process/imagination behind an idea for a work of art is usually so obscure, or at the opposite of the spectrum, meaningless and just fun as hell to make. An artists head has to be one of the most complicated places to navigate, am I right?
4) Of course I'll try transmitting a message through my work. The question is whether the message is deep and meaningful or just light and fun. Considering I'm just a student however, I am definitely focusing on technique and aesthetic so that one day I'll reach a point where I'm only worried about the message.
have fun making your art guys! happy olympics to all! enjoy your summer (or winter, depending on where in the world you're located!) xx
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Wow, this is exactly the kind of art I do...
But I almost feel like this is the art that anyone does. There is always mystery with art, and basically the new meaning of art in the first place is that it has to communicate something, which is something that not all art in the past has had. So, in a way, I feel like this movement is inevitable and may...or may not be considered a movement depending on whether or not the modern viewpoint on art changes or not (which I think it always will.)
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categories are just a way to try to make sense of the infinite by imposing false limits. I'm not sure this category succeeds at being a meaningful category for me.
good thing it was never intended for me.
art is life. it's not limited to trends and labels and such. you can label and categorize all you want and try to make something of it, but babies will still finger paint and make marks with crayons and sidewalk chalk or a stick in the dust, and I will still do what I do.
yeah. life goes on.
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Well said, my friend. Finally someone I can agree with.
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I think we display layers of filters in conteplation in general.
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Pretty sure that's just surrealism.
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That's pretty much what I was thinking.
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I love this new art form...I feel like it's something I can really get into...I thought I was a bit more Post-Modern...but I'm now realizing THIS is my real "ism", if you will.
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Art should be anything you want it to be. Why? Because the question "What is art?" cannot be answered (everyone has different ideas on what art should and shouldn't be aka their own ideas). As long as this question remains unanswered, art cannot be subject to one area of focus. Therefore, art can be infinite and individual.
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Amazing! Although, admittedly, a little difficult to grasp.
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I like making stories behind my art. Maybe it is because I am more of an author than an artist.
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