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Suggestivism
Birth of a New Category or Beginning of the End of Categories?


by techgnotic


Just when you thought there couldn’t possibly be another “ism” on the art world horizon, what with the growing accessibility of all
art technique and technology rendering all the “schools of art” equally available and doable and therefore making impossible the dominance
or even existence of any current art “movement” … comes “suggestivism,” the “ism” best summing up what art is in our lives today, defined
more by what it is not, rather than what it is.















"Suggestivist" art is not slave to any one particular type of current art, from pencils to oils to photo-manipulation. It’s not about technology or technique.




It’s largely apolitical and need not promote any particular “message.” Whether defined by Sadakichi Hartmann (circa. 1900; the first to coin
the term) as simply being a reaction to overly cerebral and insufficiently poetic art in all its forms, from canvases to literature, or by Nathan
Spoor, a current artist and advocate, as a “process” by which the artist lets go of constrictive didactic narratives and dogmatic theories and lets
the will of his or her muse take over so that truly poetic art can be created, whether that art “makes sense” or not. The artist allows the soul of
his deepest artistic intuitions “suggest” what to create, without all the over-thinking. The artist can ponder the “meaning” of the vision produced
later, along with everyone else. The one thing that “suggestivist” artworks have in common is that the viewer is encouraged (compelled!) to imagine
his or her own interpretation of the piece. These artworks generally always have recognizable elements, but the real world ends there, as these
elements are usually then twisted into the impossible conjunctures of mad dream logic. Suggestivist art can sometimes suggest the frightening and
haunting, but usually the emphasis is on the playful and wildly unapologetically creative.























“Suggestivism” is as apolitical as our largely apolitical times, though usually informed with ambiguous political memes and imagery. It is an art
for our times that does not ask to be analyzed and understood, but presents itself as a cipher or puzzle with no correct answer that commands attention
none the less. Or it could be just the latest petulant reaction to a public perception of arts experts talking over our heads in their own secret language about what we should and should not like.
Time will tell.





Perhaps the greatest thing about “suggestivist” art is the very fact that it is so... “suggestive.”  It’s the ultimate resource for artists (pop & fine),
musicians, writers, dancers or just dedicated daydreamers who feel a bit blocked.  Re-charging the creative batteries only requires you spend a little time
creating your own stories to fit the magical creations and constructions of these works, and one’s own inner engines of fantasy and whimsy will soon be
sweetly humming again.



























































QuestionsFor the Reader


  • Should art be political or apolitical?  Or do you think there’s room enough for both?
  • Do you sense there being any current “movement” in the arts world today?  Is this a good or bad state of things?
  • Do you try to “figure out” an artist’s intent or message when looking at art, or do you simply decide whether you like or dislike each piece of art?
  • In your own art, do you try to transmit any sort of message, or do you concern yourself only with technique and aesthetics?











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    Comments: 1380

    AthenaHarlequin [2012-07-29 13:05:56 +0000 UTC]

    1. I believe that there's no "should". A political piece of art can be as good as an apolitical one. There's enough room for both. Also, Most artists have created political and apolitical stuff. In addition to this, I personally think that politics is a larger term than we think. Society problems, e.g. animal cruelty, abuse, poverty are connected with politics.
    3. Both. I usually find a message inside the piece of art, or I interpret it in my own way. Even when it's not clear, you get a feeling by every piece of art.
    4. When it comes to making art for study, I focus on technique and aesthetics. When I want to give pleasure to myself by creating, I usually put my feelings, my thoughts and my soul searching to my creations.

    P.S.: English is not my native language, so, please, forgive any mistakes

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    Playerkameo [2012-07-29 13:04:33 +0000 UTC]

    There could be room for both. We can't set some rules for artists. They should be free to chose.

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    sillygrrrl In reply to ??? [2012-07-29 12:45:51 +0000 UTC]

    Interesting topic.
    Most importantly to me, is the aesthetics & technique.
    Something HAS to hit me as beautiful.
    Once they've got my attention, if they have a message (political or apolitical or anything else) I'm all for it.
    I've noticed, my moods pay a part in it.
    Same for music, depends on my mood, to dance, to cry, to paint, to drive, to think, etc.

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    Pierre-Lagarde [2012-07-29 11:49:45 +0000 UTC]

    Thanks for this so beautiful and interesting entry

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    waratteruNeko [2012-07-29 11:46:30 +0000 UTC]

    From the description, it sounds a lot like Dada, only without the political message.

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    Hoshino-tantan26 [2012-07-29 11:40:15 +0000 UTC]

    hm suggestivism...

    1. um...i dont really know what apolitical means...

    2. hm... well... art has gone better and has been more creative to even younger ages unlike during the old times only older people by the ages of 40 or 50 and above get complemented or praised for works that they have done.

    3. yep, i do. Coz i sorta think that everything poses a message that we may or may not know or notice... but not all the time.

    4. yeah, i sometimes do that... but only in times when my emotions are really overflowing... if not, i just draw to put out some creativity for the sake of drawing and not really posting out a message.

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    sofiaserra [2012-07-29 10:46:01 +0000 UTC]

    The Art is the way to do polithic from the artist, the one that the Artist can and must to do. The Art doesn't born for "something". The "pre-finalidad" (excuse me, I'm spanish and I write without dictionary) is ontológicamente contrary al Arte. But that doesn't want to say that the artist hasn't polithical adscription. In his work brotará truethly, lo "verdadero" and only after the "opus" will found his "sociopolítica", la política del Arte.
    Actually we live a democratización del acceso a "poder hacer Arte" (can do Art). This has his good part and his bad part, but it 's as it has hapenned always through the human history.
    Like an artist I don't think, I don´t believe, in the "obra" total without message. Fondo y forma siempre unidos necesariamente. And for the work becames to be reallity "work of Art", so is necessary the technical like the spirit.

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    Bicnarok [2012-07-29 10:22:43 +0000 UTC]

    1. Art expresses what the artists opinion is and seeing as their are flaws in all political systems there is room for both

    2. Well I think there´s a movement towards "crap art" and has been for a while when you see what the "modern art" fraternity comes up with some times.

    3. I tend to appreciate the technique first, then think about he meaning afterwards.

    4. I just do what I feel like doing, or start at a point and go on from there.

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    randomanimefangirl [2012-07-29 10:13:55 +0000 UTC]

    'Sense' and 'meaning' are very much overrated, sometimes we need to let go.

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    elegantcorpse72 [2012-07-29 09:47:38 +0000 UTC]

    There is definitely something happening in the world of art but I'm not sure it needs another 'ism'. Most of the above images could easily be described as outsider, lowbrow or pop surrealism.

    I'm always keen to hear if my work falls into a specific category, a lot of people describe it as surreal but it's definitely not that. If there is such a thing as suggestivism, could my work be described as that, [link]

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    Laick87 In reply to ??? [2012-07-29 09:06:47 +0000 UTC]

    I discovered the book by Nathan Spoor about 3 months ago and was awestruck: here I was seeing artists who are
    making the kind of work I'd like to make. They are right inbetween every aspect of art, high/low, conceptual/realistic, etc.

    As an artist, I think we should not be too concerned by the questions asked above. As an art historian and philosopher however,
    I'd argue that it comes very close to an answer on pluralism in our postmodern society. How do you really define art when anything
    is possible? In this sense it coudl be an answer to Arthur Danto's 'End of art' theory. We are only able to state that in hindsight though.

    The philosopher Hegel taught his theory on a concept he calls 'Zeitgeist', wich (literally translated) means time-spirt, or spirit of the times.
    He argues that the human race, and therefore art, science and such, is constantly changing, evolving if you wish. This 'Zeitgeist' is his
    definition of the periods we live in. For every period there is a Zeitgeist and there are people who adhere to this concept (mostly not in a
    conscious way). Also, he argues, that this is preset and that certain developments just have to take place. So, if there was no Einstein, another
    individual would have taken his place. Some things are just necessary - according to Hegel.

    However, we are only able to see what really defined a period, in hindsight. Artists have toyed with this concept by creating -isms, therefore
    defining their period by their own standards. Both as an artist and as someone interested in art philosophy, my heart warmed when I saw
    suggestivism and its artists for the first time: it was the first part of the current art world I could really identify with. (which is weird, since
    it's such a broad concept).

    As to the questions asked:

    1. I don't think art should be political in a conscious way. If political elements are introduced, that's fine. But in the past decades art has
    really been polluted by artists who think that their every work has to have some political statement to it. It has become a gimmick, as has
    conceptualism or shock-art.

    2. Sensing currents: yes, there are a few. But again: I don't think we need to be too conscious of these things. If they are there, they are a
    result of their time, of certain people getting together.

    3. Analysis versus taste: yes and no. Analysis can be a great thing, but I feel it has been overused. Taking a few stept back and just enjoying
    the work for what it is also has its place. If a painting or work attracts me, I am often tempted to seek out more info and get into it. But if it
    pushes me away with pretentiousness and conceptual approaches, then not so much.

    4. The message, technique and aesthetics have a 33,3% relationship in a work. I find the planning process important, but intuitive thoughts
    also play a huge role. If art loses it's 'feeling' then it's no longer art to me. And this is not always the result of a conscious process. Better yet:
    if you try to enforce such a process it mostly leads to poor results. This doesn't mean that it's dependent on some 'divine inspiration' though.
    What we like and what we create are both products of our conscious and subconscious thought-processes and influences. That is what makes
    art great, inspiring and surprising!

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    andersvolker [2012-07-29 08:50:55 +0000 UTC]

    One answer: Art can and should be political in all times.

    I see some roots of this group in the paintings of the Italian painter Arcimboldo?

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    JadoaEsraOhn In reply to andersvolker [2012-07-29 21:28:50 +0000 UTC]

    I didn't notice it (mostly because I'm not familiar with anything outside the past 2 decades), but... [link] They certainly do have that feel. I'm not entirely sure what I mean by that, so please don't ask. Good eye.

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    DeathofInk [2012-07-29 08:34:33 +0000 UTC]

    No 1. I do believe there is room for both

    No 2. I personally don't see any movements in art these days.

    No 3. A bit of both on my part.

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    Silence808 [2012-07-29 07:49:08 +0000 UTC]

    3) my first point is that i don't think you can decide if you like a piece of art, it just happens. Second is that everyone has different experiences, opinions and emotions so the 'message' you might think its trying to show could be different to what the artist intended or , just as easily, it could be the same.
    But personally i have found that most artists don't realise they are making a message until they have finished, so 'trying to figure out the artists intent' means your trying to be a mind reader.

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    Tyab [2012-07-29 07:27:29 +0000 UTC]

    From all you commenters, i'd like to praise "supernaturalbeauty", the only true artist here! Ya see, art is all about pushing buttons, breaking the boundaries of the acceptable, disturbing our concepts. While this "new" art was nothing close to an awesome breakthrough (drop the enthusiasm and admit it!), our little illiterate friend surely criticized our hypocrisy and got some very angry people. "Meh" for you and your movement.

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    Aaron-R-Morse In reply to Tyab [2012-07-29 15:11:35 +0000 UTC]

    I understand where you come from but I cannot respect the way you put it. Allot of art is created as images from that persons particular mind, bringing it to life. Not necessarily trying to push any buttons, or breaking any boundaries, but that doesn't take away from it being art, or take away from its value. it doesn't have to be about pushing buttons, it doesn't have to be about anything. It is just expression, bringing us something more to expand on our small world, by what is inside our brains. to a degree though, yes, without pushing buttons, without breaking boundaries, art gets nowhere. art forms the pattern that it does and becomes so similar because we ARE so similar. We share the same environment, we share similar thoughts, it evolves with the style of the world, and its culture. Until someone steps up and pushes the limit. finally forcing a new expansion. art is to the point that its time to ignore the labels, and enjoy art for the beauty that YOU see in it.

    forgive me if i misinterpreted your response.

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    Tyab In reply to Aaron-R-Morse [2012-08-06 21:09:40 +0000 UTC]

    Yes, you understood what I meant. I didn't get the first part, tho (I understand where you come from but I cannot respect the way you put it). Anyway, I agree that art can be the expression of the contents of our minds, which are of course changed by our common globalized environment and it's culture, without needing to be anything else (actually, I believe that's EXACTLY what's art all about today). And we all enjoy the monotone vibe of pleasant, identical thinking together. Until that someone steps up. Well, that tone was "wow Suggestivism is GREAT if you don't like it then you're IGNORAAANT". I encouraged people stepping up to it and criticizing the Movement.

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    Aaron-R-Morse In reply to Tyab [2012-08-06 23:07:47 +0000 UTC]

    I see where your coming from better now. I misunderstood a little there. with a full understanding i can say you have a fine point.

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    Tyab In reply to Tyab [2012-07-29 07:28:44 +0000 UTC]

    (context: he said something like "this is terrible" and received hate comments)

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    IgnaciaH [2012-07-29 07:12:22 +0000 UTC]

    Did an image of this with the article translated to spanish for my school graphic design classmates [link]

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    bobbeeart [2012-07-29 07:06:59 +0000 UTC]

    I don't really understand political or apolitical in art ?? Unless you are trying to convey a message or not is that it ?? I do political cartoons , I think the dominant movement is the digital art ,it's become a huge thing , and I feel unfortunately , that there is a sameness about the works I see ,where as in the earlier periods or eras this was not so pronounced , nevertheless the artworks I am seeing are fabulous ,I always like to figure what an artist is trying to say in his or her works ,it helps me to try and be more interpretive , I don;t try to convey a message every time but I always try to have an expression of some sort of feeling in it , using techniques I have aquired over time , I feel suggestion has been with us in Art since it all began , common sense tells one that we are all trying to suggest something when you pick up the pencil to start drawing !!

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    WiseWanderer [2012-07-29 06:52:38 +0000 UTC]

    In my opinion, art is ultimately a medium for communication - and that can encompass any message at all, whether it is political or apolitical.
    In my own art, I sometimes try to project a deliberate message; sometimes I simply make things that look pretty.
    And conversely when looking at art, I sometimes look for the message, or I don't.

    So in a nutshell, there are no black and white answers, nothing is always one way or the other.

    But art is definitely open to communicating any sort of idea - there are no boundaries there. There is no message that should be excluded from being called "art". Some techniques and media, sure, but no message.

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    SalvidorMonkey In reply to WiseWanderer [2012-07-29 19:40:33 +0000 UTC]

    I'd like to say that art is a medium for communication. I'd also like to say I spend a lot of time talking to myself.

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    silvanoir In reply to ??? [2012-07-29 06:32:45 +0000 UTC]

    why must everything be given a label and shoved into a category? if it's such free-form creativity, surely analyzing it to death will kill it.

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    IndependentSoul97 In reply to ??? [2012-07-29 06:17:52 +0000 UTC]

    The art pieces remind me a lot of surrealism. Surrealism definitely makes me think, especially after studying it for the first time in school last year. I'm not sure if I would consider suggestivism a new art movement by that definition. It's too broad for me.

    Currently, my literature does a better job with transmitting a message than my visual art pieces. I am more concerned with making the image look good rather than having it portray or evoke an emotion. Once I feel that I have achieved that, I might give the message another try, but for now, I'll be sticking to messages in literature.

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    283695294 In reply to ??? [2012-07-29 06:03:24 +0000 UTC]

    挺恐怖的!!!!!!
    deviantART muro drawing

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    yourmom10 In reply to ??? [2012-07-29 05:38:29 +0000 UTC]

    On the subject of question 1, whatever it wants. That is, art can aim for either or both -- there's always room for both. Political cartoons, as an example political art, capture things in a special way that words cannot.

    Also, to say that art should be apolitical is push art outside of the realm of politics as a whole and that's never gonna happen; should never happen.

    TL;DR: Both, there's definitely enough room for both. To argue the contrary is a curious thing to me.

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    Quinteels In reply to ??? [2012-07-29 05:31:38 +0000 UTC]

    Onestly I dont wryly get all those divecult words, but when I look at art I fantazize and think about what I feel and see about it in my own twisted and care free way.

    Question 1: Whut???
    Question 2: ...I dont think so.
    Question 3: I allready explained that.
    Question 4: My art is wat ever I feel like drawing, there is not a deeper meening to it, just simply showing what I did.

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    Quinteels [2012-07-29 05:31:25 +0000 UTC]

    Onestly I dont wryly get all those divecult words, but when I look at art I fantazize and think about what I feel and see about it in my own twisted and care free way.

    Question 1: Whut???
    Question 2: ...I dont think so.
    Question 3: I allready explained that.
    Question 4: My art is wat ever I feel like drawing, there is not a deeper meening to it, just simply showing what I did.
    deviantART muro drawing

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    KateRodrigues [2012-07-29 05:25:17 +0000 UTC]

    I think art should always be subjective. It's up to the consumer to find meaning.

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    ArtofApple [2012-07-29 04:56:51 +0000 UTC]

    Should art be political or apolitical? Or do you think there’s room enough for both?

    - I would say that there's room enough for both and there always has been.

    Do you sense there being any current “movement” in the arts world today? Is this a good or bad state of things?

    - I dont particularly sens a current 'movement' in the arts world today and I can't say if this is a good or bad thing. When I think about art history and the movements of each era I would think that the artists themselves were unaware of the movement in art at the moment and were more interested in pushing boundaries. I guess that the fact we're questioning this might mean that there isn't really any major movement happening in art at the moment since we lack boundaries to push. Or maybe there are boundaries there and I'm not thinking hard enough...

    Do you try to “figure out” an artist’s intent or message when looking at art, or do you simply decide whether you like or dislike each piece of art?

    -I do both. At least I like to think so. First, I usually look at the execution and technique in the piece. If it impresses me then I can accept it. However, there are times where the art does not impress me until I'm informed of the intent behind the piece which then can change how I view the piece and if I can see it as well done or not.

    In your own art, do you try to transmit any sort of message, or do you concern yourself only with technique and aesthetics?

    - I am very hard on myself when it comes to technique and aesthetics. I have more rejected pieces than ones I can be pleased with. Very amaturish but I can't see myself transmitting a message very well if my technique and aesthetic quality are weak.

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    WilliamBethea [2012-07-29 04:54:07 +0000 UTC]

    1) Either. There's room enough for it all. Confinement is an illusion.
    2) There are "movements"; they are good.
    3) It depends on what I am perceiving at the time.
    4) It depends on what I am perceiving at the time.

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    WilliamBethea In reply to WilliamBethea [2012-07-29 05:09:01 +0000 UTC]

    Surrealism is/was more of a visual puzzle. Suggestivism is more of a contextual puzzle. Neither have answers.

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    Bellethiel-Daugon In reply to ??? [2012-07-29 04:41:08 +0000 UTC]

    I see some beyond fantastic artwork up there.

    1. Both. We kind of need both, I like seeing both.

    2. Representative art seems to be making a comeback, but these days, it looks like anything goes in art and trends are hard to pinpoint. I say it's good. Also, I'm seeing artists being celebrated more often, but maybe that's just where I live. We have a huge art festival called Art Prize here in the state of Michigan, and we have a lot of art love here around that time.

    3. Yes, I do. Sometimes something is there just to be pretty, though.

    4. My own work doesn't have a lot of meaning in it, yet, I'm still learning how to do that. I plan on assigning meaning to future pieces. I think having a story behind a work makes it more compelling. And even if it doesn't have an assigned meaning, I'm sure it's there, in a subconscious way.

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    JadoaEsraOhn In reply to Bellethiel-Daugon [2012-07-29 21:24:59 +0000 UTC]

    Heh. I'm glad someone else likes it, too.

    1. You say we need both... but isn't it enough that you like seeing both?

    4. Do you consider floral wallpaper to be art? (serious question, I'm not trolling.)

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    Bellethiel-Daugon In reply to JadoaEsraOhn [2012-07-30 02:32:46 +0000 UTC]

    ... Yes. >_< I posted this very, very late at night. My grammar degrades past 1 A.M.

    Huh? Yeah, I guess. Why?

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    DraconiSerpent In reply to ??? [2012-07-29 04:34:13 +0000 UTC]

    These are quite well done, but a bit confusing to the uninitiated. I like it personally. It reminds me of the Monty Python animations.

    1. Of course there's room for both. There's always BEEN room for both. Silly question, really.
    2. I haven't detected any incredible movement in art, but art is an ever-evolving beast and that's just the way it is. Whether any large movement happens or not, it's quite likely that given fifty years time, current artforms will be seen as old-school and prosaic.
    3. Funny you should ask. It actually bugs me when artists don't say anything about the pieces they've made in their descriptions, because no matter how good I become at art analysis, I always prefer to hear it from the horse's mouth. (Not that I know any horse's who are exceptional painters, mind you.)
    4. It varies. Being a writer, I'm always trying to communicate SOMETHING to my readers. Usually there's a definite message behind it, but I have done a bit of abstract poetry that's meant more to invoke a certain type of feeling rather than any... underlying message.

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    supernaturalbeauty In reply to ??? [2012-07-29 04:14:18 +0000 UTC]

    I think it is twisted and somewhat disturbing! I
    find no humor in these pieces. As an artist
    myself I offended that one could call this art!

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    LoveoftheDark In reply to supernaturalbeauty [2012-07-29 05:11:31 +0000 UTC]

    "I am an artist and writer, so I have a lot admiration
    for the arts and music. That passion came from my
    mom. She raised me to follow my dreams and respect
    all aspects of the arts."

    Perhaps you should have said, "All aspects of the arts except the ones I find disturbing"

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    LoveoftheDark In reply to supernaturalbeauty [2012-07-29 05:10:19 +0000 UTC]

    I find it hilarious that you call yourself an artist, yet you only collect.
    Lets see your "art" and let us judge it.
    You can take your offended ass, and go jump off a bridge with it.
    There is room for all art here, but there is no room for art snobs.

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    jemiu In reply to supernaturalbeauty [2012-07-29 04:41:09 +0000 UTC]

    That makes no sense. Come on. Art's up for interpretation, and it certainly doesn't need to fit inside some mold of appeasing or commonplace. The artists above obviously demonstrate great skill, so they deserve every bit of recognition they receive. Twisted and disturbing content can definitely be a form of its own very fascinating art. I'm surprised that you don't already understand this if you are an artist. I'm doubting your sincerity as an artist.

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    StaryuManiac In reply to ??? [2012-07-29 04:11:17 +0000 UTC]

    I like to hide an emotional meaning in my art, but a political meaning often hurts when it's something beautiful made for what you don't believe in. I don't know, there's some kind of double-ended blind jealousy there or something.
    As far as movements in the art world I don't think I would know. I haven't really found a pattern in the whole suggestivism thing either, but a lot of it seems really dark and trippy. Dark and trippy does seem really... in right now though.
    When I look at a piece of art I try to take the emotion I got from it, or the vibe I guess...
    In my own art, really lit, I like to hide my problems in things that sound happy.

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    senreiwitch In reply to ??? [2012-07-29 03:42:27 +0000 UTC]

    Art is the reflection of the mind's reflection of the world, which then is shown to others with different reflections of different worlds and therefore reflect the reflections in new ways, creating that infinite mirror of possibilities of expression and interpretation--
    the way you see the world can be whatever you want it to be. Such is art.

    SO MUCH...ART!!
    deviantART muro drawing

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    LoveoftheDark In reply to ??? [2012-07-29 03:31:14 +0000 UTC]

    Funny, they used to call this kind of art "Surrealism." Not sure why they decided to give it a new name, but its the same thing either way. Some of it is phenomenal, and some of it is shit, and theres an awful lot of in between.

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    illusionality In reply to ??? [2012-07-29 03:28:56 +0000 UTC]

    1. I really don't care about politics.
    2. I sense a movement of...a kind of anarchy, yet a composed kind of anarchy. Artists coming out of their shell, doing things their own way rather than what's accepted/expected. But then now the unexpected is becoming expected.
    3.A little bit of both. If the explanation is not in the description bar then I'm going to take the piece as I see it wether it being the right meaning or not. I also think that if there is indeed no description the artist wants to let the viewer think it out or get his own head working and discover parts of the piece that dont nessecarily stand out rather than tell you what its all about. If its "suggestive art" then it shouldnt be lazy.
    4. I dont convey any message. n that way I'm pretty boring when it comes to my art. I just do what I can. "What I can't create I recognize.", So I'm just doing whatever i feel like drawing. My mind isnt that "deep" when it comes to creating. Ill let other people do that. Imagine all art being suggestive. it would make us go mad!

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    The-Phantom-Stranger [2012-07-29 03:08:17 +0000 UTC]

    1. While not a fan of politically themed art, I completely understand the compulsion to express those views through art. That's what an artist does; they manifest feelings and thoughts into their art. If those feelings are political in nature of course it will come through in art.
    2. N/A
    3. Of course there is an instant flash of "like" or "dislike" when seeing a piece for the first time, but there are many times after really looking and absorbing a piece my initial opinion changes. That can come from the message I interpret or simple aesthetics. In short, I do look for messages in art when I feel there is a message to be gleaned.
    4. Sometimes. Much of my art has no message at all and is purely meant to look pretty, cool, scary, ugly, etc. In such pieces I do worry about aesthetics and techniques, because the entire point is the superficial look.
    However, in pieces with deep personal meaning that contain symbolism and other qualities that come from an emotional place aesthetics and technique sometimes take a back seat. To me, as an artist, when the piece has true and deep meaning the emotion(s) to be conveyed is the primary concern. That is not to say an emotional and meaningful piece cannot be beautiful or should lack time and effort. But I'm not going to draw a woman inspired by a friend who was in pain the same way I would draw a woman meant to simply have sex appeal. Two different approaches completely. Sometimes a rough scratchy drawing (that is meant to be that way) says something that a nice, clean lined one cannot. -cg

    Wow...did you really read all that? Nice!

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    RogerStork [2012-07-29 02:34:15 +0000 UTC]

    beautiful artworks!

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    kornstar1 In reply to ??? [2012-07-29 01:49:34 +0000 UTC]

    art is art... it is up to the viewer to say whether or not a piece of work is art. One person may say it is not art while another sayes it is. It all depends on who is looking at it. Personally, i love looking at something and seeing one thing when really it is a bunch of other things. ...i love this type of art. Keep it coming and let the movement of art and the variety of art styles keep going.

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    Gunnut51 In reply to ??? [2012-07-29 01:49:18 +0000 UTC]

    There is enough room for both Apolitical and Political art, but Political art needs to be fair and for lack of a better term, balanced. It should focus on an ail of society, but should hit the topic but not provoke a violent outcome. Political cartoons are too slanted to either canonize or demonize the character, not what the issue is.

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