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TheBourgyman — Fan-based relationships, pt. 2

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Description All aboard the S.S. Love Ship! Destination: Mario fandom. Haven't seen the first part? It's right THERE !


VIVIAN x MARIO: Mario, being the main character/every man/straight dude of the series, is paired with virtually everybody. This is most evident in the RPG games, especially Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, where it is often hinted that other  partner characters have some kind of attraction to him. There's Goombella, who almost confessed at the end of the game, and then you got Vivian, who spends a considerable amount of time alone with the hero... and who also almost confess. That last one initially got a lot of attention shipping-wise. The human/ghost pairing thing is a bit unusual if you weigh the implications, and that's without taking into account that Vivian is strongly implied to be transgender. Hmm...

LUIGI x PEASLEY: Sometimes, the biggest of things can be in the smallest details. Prince Peasley was a minor character in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, but his interaction with Luigi, as little as it was, seem to have sparkled the imagination of a million fan girls, as now there is a huge amount of fan fiction depicting the two in a romantic relationship. If you're looking for yaoi/slash fan fiction in the Mario fandom, this is likely you'll get a ton of this pairing.

PEACH x BOWSER: Have a classic! It's the oldest of them, and the most enduring nowadays. I mean, Peach gets kidnapped so much, maybe it's all part of an elaborate plan to be together with Bowser without hurting Mario's feelings, who knows? Maybe it's just Peach developing a Stockholm syndrome over the years? I'm not here to tell you, there's plenty of fan fiction to quench your thirst for answers, though. But I can tell you that there are also plenty of bait-and-switch scenarios involving the two, courtesy of Nintendo themselves. First, Peach and Bowser getting married in Super Paper Mario, wedding suit and dress and all. Then, it happening again in Super Mario Odyssey (because yes, even though this deviation was submitted in 2008, I still took the time to update the description to include that detail! What are you doing here anyway, looking at my old ass, outdated art? Go see my newest stuff, you silly goose!)

YOSHI x BIRDO: There's something kinda interesting about this shipping: it kind of transcends the traditional couple composition, in the sense that both characters' genders are unclear. Yoshis are sometimes regarded as genderless, since they're all able to lay eggs and there is no gender-specific characteristics in the species. And then you got Birdo who, like Vivian in the second Paper Mario game, can be described as transgender (the Super Mario Bros. 2 manual explicitly states that Birdo is a male who thinks he's a female. That's a rather clumsy and outdated definition of a trans girl, yet it's still one in its core). Although Nintendo subtly let go of the trans implications in recent years, they still tend to associate her with Yoshi, and have gone so far as to make them similar in design and gameplay (after all, they're both egg-generating dinosaurs).


All the characters above belong to Nintendo!


Update, 2018-06-23: brushed up and streamlined the descriptions a bit to reflect my current feelings on each pairing.
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Comments: 526

Specter-Von-Baren In reply to ??? [2009-01-14 02:55:21 +0000 UTC]

*sigh* I assume you too have suffered such a misfortune as well?

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MuyokoIchigo In reply to ??? [2009-01-05 15:03:25 +0000 UTC]

Hmmm... I don't mind LuigiXPeasley because I'm a fan of it... but VivianXMario?! and YoshiXBirdo?! I used to not like yaoi and yuri and that's why I see your point on these pairings...

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SuperMarioFan In reply to ??? [2008-12-27 19:33:36 +0000 UTC]

I love how fans like to overreact about BowserxPeach ("OMG it's an animal and a human oh noes"), as well as call it "crack" despite the fact that there were some obvious hints at it in Super Paper Mario.

If BowserxPeach is so wrong, then I guess Beauty and the Beast is, too.

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1B1B In reply to ??? [2008-12-26 06:26:41 +0000 UTC]

Very disturbing

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TheBourgyman In reply to 1B1B [2008-12-26 23:08:21 +0000 UTC]

I know!

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XxWolfandBowserFanxX In reply to ??? [2008-12-24 13:12:33 +0000 UTC]

MarioxVivian-Nah not really.
Luigixpeasly-WTF Luigi's not gay..
BowserxPeach -is fine with me.I like th epairing,since Bowser tries really hard to get peach,so i think he derserves her^^
YoshixBirdo..No way.I read on Mariowiki that in the earlier Mario games that Birdo was a boy who thought he was a girl.No joke.And if Birdo did want to marry Yoshi,the last pic describes it all.I don't see why yoshi wouldn't want to marry his own species.

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Yoruichi-Sensei In reply to ??? [2008-12-21 00:10:36 +0000 UTC]

This is great! Every time I see Peach and Bowser I start cracking up. xD

I've seen some pairings floating around on dA that don't even make sense. The kind where two characters that have never even met are paired together in hopes that it will work.

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TheBourgyman In reply to Yoruichi-Sensei [2008-12-22 04:40:09 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, people call that "crack pairing". That's weird.

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Yoruichi-Sensei In reply to TheBourgyman [2008-12-22 04:52:01 +0000 UTC]

I firmly believe that crack pairings can't work. Especially some of the ones I've seen floating around on dA. Dx

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SuperMarioFan In reply to Yoruichi-Sensei [2009-01-04 16:38:33 +0000 UTC]

Pairings involving two characters that have never even met can work, and isn't necessarily crack. The prime example I can think of being CharmyxCream.

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Yoruichi-Sensei In reply to SuperMarioFan [2009-01-04 20:31:44 +0000 UTC]

lol Some of them can work, but others that I've seen are just ridiculous. xD

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SuperMarioFan In reply to Yoruichi-Sensei [2009-01-04 20:33:38 +0000 UTC]

Lol, like what? I've seen some ridiculous ones like KnucklesxCosmo. XD

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Yoruichi-Sensei In reply to SuperMarioFan [2009-01-04 20:37:55 +0000 UTC]

Well I don't want to name any but there are quite a few. xD lol KnucklesxCosmo.

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SuperMarioFan In reply to Yoruichi-Sensei [2009-01-04 20:43:06 +0000 UTC]

Go ahead and name some. I'm interested to hear. XD

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Yoruichi-Sensei In reply to SuperMarioFan [2009-01-05 02:54:46 +0000 UTC]

Well while browsing through dA, I just so happened to find LarryxMimi. It seemed ok at first but then I really started to actually think about it, and that made everything about that pairing seem wrong. Isn't Mimi really 1000 years old or something? That fact alone makes this relationship illegal, and pretty gross. Also, Mimi's personality is almost identical to Wendy O.'s, and I'm pretty sure nobody in their right mind would want to date someone who's just like their obnoxious older sister.

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SuperMarioFan In reply to Yoruichi-Sensei [2009-01-05 03:05:56 +0000 UTC]

That was my idea. And I honestly don't think Mimi could be that old. She sure doesn't look it. Also, Larry and Mimi have fairly similar personalities, when I look at it.

But I don't want to waste comment space with a debate. Maybe I'll note you.

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Yoruichi-Sensei In reply to SuperMarioFan [2009-01-05 04:44:09 +0000 UTC]

xD That was your idea? lawl, dA sure is a small place.

I guess you could note me about it. ;D

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TheBourgyman In reply to Yoruichi-Sensei [2008-12-22 18:30:15 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, most of crack pairings are ment to be totally random.

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DaisyFan4Life In reply to ??? [2008-12-19 22:56:10 +0000 UTC]

I hate LxP.

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TheBourgyman In reply to DaisyFan4Life [2008-12-22 04:41:45 +0000 UTC]

A lot of people do.

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PunsoExe In reply to ??? [2008-12-18 21:00:59 +0000 UTC]

no affence but.....
luigi is not gay

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TheBourgyman In reply to PunsoExe [2008-12-18 22:09:34 +0000 UTC]

I'm not offended, why would I?

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PunsoExe In reply to TheBourgyman [2008-12-19 17:57:09 +0000 UTC]

i mean i did not want to sound like a douche bag

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CelesJessa In reply to ??? [2008-12-11 05:26:59 +0000 UTC]

Ha, I love the expression on Bowser's face. He'd give anything just for a touch by Peach, even if that "touch" is her fist against his face.

"She touched me~!"

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Gold-Paladin In reply to ??? [2008-12-10 16:46:14 +0000 UTC]

O-O That is one powerful punch that Peach gave to Bowser.

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DarkPyroDude In reply to ??? [2008-12-07 14:18:52 +0000 UTC]

The item that Peasley gives luigi is a white rose I think...

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GenoWolf1982 In reply to ??? [2008-12-07 00:02:06 +0000 UTC]

I think these four should be wedded
except luigi and peasly!

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GenoWolf1982 In reply to GenoWolf1982 [2008-12-07 00:19:28 +0000 UTC]

And Luigi is not gay!

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Master-Nintendo In reply to ??? [2008-12-06 19:50:21 +0000 UTC]

About Luigi x Peasley
The object that Peasley gave to Luigi was important for his quest.
You needed to collect fruits for Yoshis to have Neon Eggs which you exchange for a Star Bean piece.
Somewhen,Luii needed to go alone.
When he found the fruit,Petey Pirhana ate it,so you engage a battle then.
After defeating it,Peasley appeared and gave the fruit that was within the enemy.
That doesn't mean they could be a couple.

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TheBourgyman In reply to Master-Nintendo [2008-12-07 02:37:39 +0000 UTC]

Lol, apparently that's not what Luigi x Peasley fanatics think!

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Master-Nintendo In reply to Master-Nintendo [2008-12-06 19:51:12 +0000 UTC]

Peasley somehow been eaten by the carnivorous plant.

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Master-Nintendo In reply to Master-Nintendo [2008-12-06 19:56:11 +0000 UTC]

Even,these fruits weren't found anywhere.
These were rare

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Viittaperkele In reply to ??? [2008-12-04 02:26:23 +0000 UTC]

Nice. As I'm not a big fan of pairings, I personally found this a bit funnier than part one. But I think you also really nailed Bowser there really well, Birdo too.

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Hyperxcharmander In reply to ??? [2008-11-26 18:28:50 +0000 UTC]

I love the pink Yoshi, what's it called.. Birdie or sumthin?

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TheBourgyman In reply to Hyperxcharmander [2008-11-26 19:05:19 +0000 UTC]

Yup, though it's not a Yoshi.

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GRgoldfish101 In reply to ??? [2008-11-23 19:49:42 +0000 UTC]

you know peasley is a guy right

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Takadox In reply to ??? [2008-11-23 12:43:46 +0000 UTC]

VIVIAN x MARIO
Lol i feel sorry for Mario

LUIGI x PEASLEY
I want to get the Supertsar saga game this christmas, i've seen the ending with luigi... (crying because he couldn't get his chance to...huh peasly? I really can't believe nintendo did this to poor luigi. I don't think he's gay, doesn't go with peasly, more like daisy.

PEACH x BOWSER
Very funny, very true and easy prediction. No, peach says. Bowser gets punched in the face.

YOSHI x BIRDO
I don't really like birdo's existance. Poor Yoshi

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Ginny-N In reply to ??? [2008-11-16 03:55:45 +0000 UTC]

I'm going to tell you just because I remember you when I find out:

In the Second Saga of Super Mario-kun, the Japanese Manga published in the Coro-Coro Comics since... like forever (1990 O.o) is a mix of some SNES games, Gameboy Games and NES games. This saga comes after Mario World adaptation and before the "2 games adaptation per tankubon" which is a rule until today.

In this saga, Mario, Luigi and Yoshi goes thru Subcon where Wart is alied with Bowser and he tries to stop them. Birdo presents and offers her service to Wart about stop Mario and co. Long story short, they are about to be finished by Birdo when she suddenly decides not do it and she falls in love of Yoshi!

Ok, it's not like suddenly, but I have the comics (Until Volume 12 of 33, sadly) and I don't know japanese. But I can understand a suddenly bursts of Hearts everywhere and Birdo trying to kiss Yoshi. (I'm working in a Scanlation with a friend who is translating. The first 6 chapters shows Yoshi is really childish and really REALLY polite in his wording.)

I know Mario-kun is not exactly cannon, but I consider it like... half-cannon.

So, I just wanted to tell you. It's not like I'm disagree with you.

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TheBourgyman In reply to Ginny-N [2008-11-16 04:44:19 +0000 UTC]

Haha, thanks for that bit of information. I don't know it's safe though to consider the Mario-kun adventures as canon. I have a few volumes of it, and my girlfriend (which speaks fluent Japanese) could translate some passages for me, and I can tell you there's a lot of non-sense in it, both in story and dialogues! The stories sometimes take major detours from the original games, and to boot, the characters don't always act as the games tell them to. I mean, Mario's an extremely gredy man in those. Hahaha.

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Ginny-N In reply to TheBourgyman [2008-11-16 16:20:04 +0000 UTC]

Me neither. But at least is the same Mario from the first chapter to the last one.

Yep, there's a ton of no sense everywhere. But at the same time is a good example of Japanese Humor. ^^! My friend has a ton of trouble trying to translate the manga. There's wordplay everywhere, like a word which is write in some way but when you read it sound in the other way...

In fact, I like to consider it "A very good example of a Fan Based Marioverse. It's published for godness sake!"

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megatoaster In reply to ??? [2008-11-15 00:07:18 +0000 UTC]

gay luigi?

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WithoutInspiration In reply to ??? [2008-11-14 21:15:06 +0000 UTC]

Haha XD...you're right, everyone falls in love with Mario

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Mike2468 In reply to ??? [2008-11-13 02:19:32 +0000 UTC]

Asexual reproduction is the only way an animal can make offspring without a mate.

So Yoshi can be a guy and at the same time lay eggs. But then again, he usually lays one type (the one without a Yoshi in it) to use as his primary weapon of choice against enemies.

=3

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MarioLuigi25 In reply to ??? [2008-11-12 23:49:38 +0000 UTC]

MarioxVivian= FAIL (Nothing against Vivian, but Mario belongs with Peach. P.S. I believe that Vivian is a female)!!

LuigixPeasely= ULTIMATE FAIL (Luigi is NOT freaking gay)!!

BowserxPeach= ULTIMATE FAIL (I HATE AnimalxHuman pairings, they make me sick)!!

YoshixBirdo= WIN (P.S. I think Birdo is a girl)!!

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PeachyPie101 In reply to ??? [2008-11-12 02:31:43 +0000 UTC]

can u make more?

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TheBourgyman In reply to PeachyPie101 [2008-11-14 04:07:44 +0000 UTC]

Nah, only two were planned, unfortunately.

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PeachyPie101 In reply to TheBourgyman [2008-11-14 20:05:31 +0000 UTC]

oh

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mariofan323 In reply to ??? [2008-11-08 07:55:07 +0000 UTC]

I love fandom crack
These couples are fandom crack at its best
PeachxBowser is howver become somewhat canon amongst the fans nowadays

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Marsmar In reply to ??? [2008-11-04 22:40:09 +0000 UTC]

Aren't Yoshi and Birdo gay? In Mario 2, Birdo was a guy who thinks he is a girl. I don't think Nintendo said anything to change it and because they are lovers...well....you know. Funny bowser and Peach

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LilMegFish In reply to ??? [2008-10-27 22:09:42 +0000 UTC]

Peach should say yes to Bowser.
God knows, I would have. In the old cartoons and comics the big-ol Koopa was head-over-heels for her. It was sweet . . . and somewhat scary.

As for Luigi . . . cannot picture him being gay. Just . . . can't.

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