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Hello my darlings.You have been kidnapped, ahead of you are two ponies Fluttershy and Diamond Tiara. You are giving a knife, and a choose, kill Fluttershy or kill Diamond Tiara. Kill one of them and the other goes free, but if you don't kill either of them, than they both will die. Now before you give your obvious answer, I would really like you to think about it for a second.
If you really know Fluttershy's character, than you know that she cares about everypony no matter what. The truth is Fluttershy would give up her own life if it meant saving a young fillies life. Would you really kill Diamond Tiara, even going against Fluttershy's own wishes. Knowing full well that she wouldn't be able to live with herself, if she only survived because a filly died in her place.
Please, give us a real answer, not a fake troll answer, put some actually thought into it.
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Punisher143 In reply to ??? [2012-12-22 20:12:48 +0000 UTC]
If this were a Saw movie, I'd be dead by now. T~T
I guess it would really depend on whether or not Fluttershy would really be alright with sacrificing herself to save DT. I wouldn't feel so bad then if that were the case.
And of course if I had a choice to make it quick and painless.
If the answer to both is yes, then Fluttershy.
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kingoftheranbowducks In reply to ??? [2012-11-22 22:30:29 +0000 UTC]
I-It w-would have to be F-Fluttershy, I guess....
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TheMasterofDespair In reply to kingoftheranbowducks [2012-11-26 11:55:40 +0000 UTC]
Be Strong.
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subarashi-sama99 In reply to ??? [2012-11-18 05:16:34 +0000 UTC]
I.... I..... Fluttershy? Or Dia? I CANNOT CHOOSE! *teleports both out with unicorn magic, stabs self*
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SapphireLibra3 In reply to ??? [2012-11-15 00:59:53 +0000 UTC]
Libra: Fluttershy... I...
Fluttershy: It's the right thing to do... she has a family and her whole life ahead of her...
Libra: Yeah, but...
Fluttershy: Please... I'm afraid enough as it is... do it... before I get too afraid...
Libra: Fluttershy, thank you for showing me true kindness. (Runs over to Fluttershy and plunges it through Fluttershy) Now Diamond... let's get out of here...
Comment: Ultimately, though I hate to say it (cause I'm a HUGE Fluttershy fan) if I had no choice I'd have to kill Fluttershy. Diamond Tiara is young, and has a lot of growing to do.
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Hates-Pozitives-RP In reply to ??? [2012-11-10 13:56:16 +0000 UTC]
I think DT could die because otherwise there would be NO elements of harmony , just my option
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TheMasterofDespair In reply to Hates-Pozitives-RP [2012-11-21 04:41:34 +0000 UTC]
Sorry about the late response. You know, you are one of the few, possibly the first person to even mention the elements of harmony, which makes a very valid point. Maybe it would be better to kill Diamond Tiara, but that's for you to decide.
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Hates-Pozitives-RP In reply to TheMasterofDespair [2012-11-21 17:48:27 +0000 UTC]
I guess I'll rather kill FS , I thought about it in school XD
And I think that Diamnond Tiara would change after this.
Anyway I dont really like flutterS
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Matth360 In reply to ??? [2012-10-17 20:40:34 +0000 UTC]
That's a tough one to answer. If there was anypony other than Fluttershy, i would always choose the filly. This time is different.
In note, Fluttershy is my favorite pony besides Luna. Diamond Tiara is neutral to me, even though she's a brat.
I can take a third option and choose to kill mysely, but it's unlikely. First i ask mysely which pony i keep alive (rationally). The mare or the filly?
Usually i would choose the filly, but that's when emotions kick in. If i'd choose to kill Fluttershy, i'd feel bad. I mean, REALLY bad. I'd be crying like a baby the instant i kill her. This makes almost impossible to me to do that to Fluttershy.
I'll choose Diamond Tiara, though this isn't really the best thing to do, but it's the best option for me. Sure, Fluttershy would be really sad, but i'd be a lot worse if i decided to kill her. Hopefully she understands that.
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TheMasterofDespair In reply to Matth360 [2012-10-19 02:56:53 +0000 UTC]
You must do, what you feel is right. You said that you'll cry if you were to kill Fluttershy, yet you seem like you would feel no remorse for killing Diamond Tiara.
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Matth360 In reply to TheMasterofDespair [2012-10-19 15:41:28 +0000 UTC]
Not really. I'd also feel pretty bad for killing Diamond Tiara because, she's a filly. I'd mostly feel guilty doing that to her, but, i don't have any other choices.
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JosunTomoro In reply to ??? [2012-10-08 23:54:42 +0000 UTC]
Trick question, the answer is you take the knife and turn around and stab the person/pony who gave it to you and is forcing you to do such a thing.
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TheMasterofDespair In reply to JosunTomoro [2012-10-09 05:35:21 +0000 UTC]
If only things were that simple.
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JosunTomoro In reply to TheMasterofDespair [2012-10-09 16:14:07 +0000 UTC]
Going by this, I'm assuming that we're thrown into the room with a knife and then told via a speaker what our options are. I then respond by replying that they've kidnapped me, and two others, and locked us in a room with no way out. I would point out that it likely doesn't matter which one I kill, as the person putting us through this may just be sick enough/messed up enough to kill everyone anyways. Or, potentially much worse, the entire plan could be to kill everyone, and it's simply a test of which one you yourself will choose to kill.
In other words, I don't trust the person giving me these options, and don't expect him to actually let one or the other go after the other gets killed.
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EnforcingFern48 In reply to ??? [2012-10-05 12:56:22 +0000 UTC]
i fink tha Bad Moonz One,oopz i mean da Pink one
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TheMasterofDespair In reply to EnforcingFern48 [2012-10-09 05:37:25 +0000 UTC]
Well the decision is yours and yours alone.
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EnforcingFern48 In reply to TheMasterofDespair [2012-10-11 01:37:34 +0000 UTC]
bahh i dont know wat to kill
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TheMasterofDespair In reply to EnforcingFern48 [2012-10-14 18:30:17 +0000 UTC]
Killing is to choose for thy not to live. That doesn't help you at all does it, now time to kill somepony. Just think, Pink or Yellow.
vs.
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ShadowwDash In reply to ??? [2012-10-04 20:46:59 +0000 UTC]
Reasons to kill Fluttershy:
-She would be sad if DT would die
-DT would have chance to change her personality after this thing
Reasons to kill Diamond Tiara:
-DT is a nasty bitch
-Fluttershy is one of the elements of harmony
-If i would kill DT, only few pony would miss her, unlike Fluttershy
-Fluttershy is the cute and kind
-DT would kill Fluttershy without thinking to save her own life
So i would kill Diamond Tiara
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ShadowwDash In reply to ShadowwDash [2012-10-04 21:01:17 +0000 UTC]
*Fluttershy is cute and kind
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TheMasterofDespair In reply to ShadowwDash [2012-10-09 05:45:33 +0000 UTC]
You've made a good point, and Diamond Tiara will die. But to say ones life is worth more than another is very close minded, even if that person is a bully they still will be deeply missed. To be honest, killing Diamond Tiara might actually be even more sad, because Fluttershy had already lived a longer life, and she would also be more accepting towards death.
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Catoz In reply to ??? [2012-09-30 14:29:27 +0000 UTC]
I would kill Diamond Tiara, because Fluttershy is cute
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TheMasterofDespair In reply to Catoz [2012-10-09 05:34:06 +0000 UTC]
Sorry about the long wait, I've been very occupied. But if this is your decision, than DT shall DIE!!!!!
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Catoz In reply to TheMasterofDespair [2012-10-19 11:44:15 +0000 UTC]
This is my Descision, DT shall DIE
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Loth-Eth In reply to Loth-Eth [2012-09-14 03:15:03 +0000 UTC]
I do care abou Fluttershy, because she's one of my best friend from Equarstia. I really HATE Diamond Tiara. I'll Fluttershy live, and let Diamond Tiara die
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TheMasterofDespair In reply to Loth-Eth [2012-10-09 05:50:33 +0000 UTC]
Than you shall kill Diamond Tiara. By the way, if you really are a friend of Fluttershy, than you would understand that she doesn't play favorites, she loves everyone, even if you don't.
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Loth-Eth In reply to TheMasterofDespair [2012-10-09 17:45:51 +0000 UTC]
I agreed. Fluttershy is one of my Best friends from Equestria. About Diamond Tiara, she is nothing but trouble making brat. But I am friend of Fluttershy, I love everypony, except Diamond Tiara and her friend Silver Spoon, I hate those two Trouble making Fillys.
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CMC--Scootaloo In reply to Loth-Eth [2014-10-04 23:33:54 +0000 UTC]
Applebloom, Scootaloo and Sweetie Belle are my best friends and if Diamond Tiara would be dead it would help them, so I agree with you.
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ShadowCatClaw In reply to ??? [2012-09-04 20:15:56 +0000 UTC]
I think I'd rather sacrifice myself than than let someone else die. No matter who it is, I would let myself die in their place, even if it was someone I hated.
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TheMasterofDespair In reply to ShadowCatClaw [2012-09-05 02:49:15 +0000 UTC]
What if you weren't giving the option to take your own life. What if you had to choose between the two of them, who would it be?
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ShadowCatClaw In reply to TheMasterofDespair [2012-09-05 03:01:28 +0000 UTC]
If I could I would sacrifice myself. But if I had to do it, I would take Fluttershys life. Diamond Tiara is just a filly, and she still has her whole life ahead of her, and I imagine she would change for the better after that and use her life to make a difference in the lives of others.
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TheMasterofDespair In reply to ShadowCatClaw [2012-09-05 03:17:27 +0000 UTC]
Rest in Peace, Fluttershy. But if Diamond Tiara really does change for the better, and help make a difference in the lives of others. I think Fluttershy would be happy if her sacrifice meant giving a change of heart to a troubled filly, and improving the lives of the ponies of Equestria.
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ShadowCatClaw In reply to TheMasterofDespair [2012-09-05 03:25:52 +0000 UTC]
I love Fluttershy, and it would sadden my heart to do such a thing, but deep down I truly believe that it would be the right thing to do, and i'm sure she would feel the same way. Even though these are just characters on a tv show, this is making me a little emotional.
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TheMasterofDespair In reply to church7089 [2012-08-27 06:05:01 +0000 UTC]
The reason I didn't respond is because I thought that the conversation was over, you said what you had to say, and I said what I had to say. There wasn't really much more for me to add. I am deeply sorry for not responding earlier. Funny, this is the second time I did this to you, sorry. Sometimes I just don't respond to some comments for a while, even if it's a few days, I'm not sure why. I say, I'll get back to them later, but than time goes by, and I think their no longer expecting a comment anymore. But I promise if you leave a comment on any of my work, I will respond to it as quickly as possible.
With that out of the way let's begin by talking about Fluttershy. Now judging by Fluttershy's character I think she would probably give up her own life to save Diamond Tiara. Even though Fluttershy is the most fragile of the group, I think she is more accenting towards death than the rest of the mane 6. Let's say that one of the them were to die, they would all handle it quite differently. For instance, I think Rarity would probably go into denial about how she feels. Fluttershy would grieve, but she would by probably be the easiest to let go. She might of had to experience death once or twice while taking care of the many animals she owns.
Now with Diamond Tiara, it's really sad that people hate her as much as they do. I know she bullies the cutie mark crusaders, she's a spoiled brat, and practically irredeemable. But to be honest, I don't think Diamond Tiara is as spoiled as the fans make her out to be. She is a little spoiled, but I think it is just the way she is. I've been studying her character a little while, and it doesn't really seem that she acts the way she does just because she is spoiled. To me it seems she does it because she's likes to annoy people, I think she find it to be fun, whether that's better or worse I don't know.
As a species we naturally like to pick on others, from when were young until we get old, it just seems to be how people are. The majority of people won't admit it, but they were like that when they were her age. Some people grow out of it, some people don't. At least when your her age, you probably don't know any better, but unfortunately there are people who act like that in all ages.
Now when it comes to these spoiled bully characters, who happen to be in EVERY cartoon ever made, I usually hate them like everyone else. What is it about Diamond Tiara, that I found really likable, I'm not sure. But then again, do I really need a reason. If someone likes Fluttershy, or Pinkie Pie, or Rainbow Dash, or anyone for that matter, they don't need a reason. But If you like Diamond Tiara, or Gilda, or anyone else that the majority hates, you have to explain why.
The truth is I don't think Diamond Tiara has done anything that bad to deserve this kind of hatred. Which is why I created a group known as The Diamond Cutters to end the hatred towards her. I find her character to be really enjoyable, she adds sort of an individuality to a "perfect" world. By the way, thanks for the gift. I thought the poem was really well written, and the music nicely added to the mood and flow of the words.
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thefan2 In reply to ??? [2012-08-21 16:37:31 +0000 UTC]
DON'T WORRY YOU TWO ME AND THE CAST OF ALL THE FINAL FANTASY GAMES ARE COMING!!!!!!!!! *grabs a random Lightsaber* TO SAVING DIMANOND TIARA AND FLUTTERSHY!
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TheMasterofDespair In reply to thefan2 [2012-08-21 16:58:52 +0000 UTC]
Final Fantasy, are you guys going to throw a blitzball at us.
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thefan2 In reply to TheMasterofDespair [2012-08-21 17:07:46 +0000 UTC]
me ha I also have the Sonic the hedgehog cast, Mario cast, the Jurassic Park cast, and all of the Nintendo cast for back up. YOU CAN NEVER TAKE AWAY THEY MARKETABILITY!
Oh and I also have the rest of the My Litte Pony Frindship is magic cast also and for no apparent reason I also have Ruby and Mitta.
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church7089 In reply to ??? [2012-08-20 01:40:26 +0000 UTC]
The idea that there is a "more" moral choice here is a bit absurd. It isn't more moral to kill one over the other. You are doing a deed to save one's life that is unthinkable, and that could even be construed as immoral as you are killing one which makes you believe that YOU have the power to decide who deserves life or not when really we're all the same on that scale and none of us have that right.
All that being said, if I have the option to take the third route of killing myself I would take it. Whoever wants blood gets blood, and the two ponies get to live.
If I am required to play by the rules, then if it were any other mane 6 pony I would likely take their life to save the life of a child. How she acts doesn't really play a role here as much as her age. Fluttershy and the rest have gotten to live more of life than DT. DT still has plenty of life to go.
That being said BECAUSE the pony in question is Fluttershy, and in this situation I am there with her and I'm the one wielding the knife, despite it being the completely selfish option, I would take DT's life. There is no way that I could harm Fluttershy. It's absurd to think that I can harm anyone in the first place, but Fluttershy is even above that. I legitimately don't think that my rational brain would be able to overpower emotion. Emotion tends to leave the cognizant mind going in circles.
I don't really think that you, Makulo, have any right to say a answer is better than another answer, which is the feeling I get heavily coming from your comments. There are just different reasons, different thoughts, and different choices, and everyone has their own rationality behind it.
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TheMasterofDespair In reply to church7089 [2012-08-22 21:27:53 +0000 UTC]
Sorry I hadn't commented earlier, but I wasn't really focusing much I this at the moment. First off let me begin by saying I love your comment, you've given one of the best responds I've seen so far. I honestly have been spending a couple hours trying to come up with a worthy responds. I do enjoy a good battle of wits, and you have proved yourself to be great opponent, but I am ready.
Now I do agree with you that I have been bias, I am pushing people to kill Fluttershy, I've noticed that. By the way, it's really great that you read through the comments before giving your own comment, I would do the same. I do like Diamond Tiara better, but I also really love Fluttershy. Originally this was created for people who have mixed opinions about Diamond Tiara, or flat out hate her. That's why I choose these two, Fluttershy is so beloved, and Diamond Tiara is mostly hated. To be honest, I'm less interested in who people kill, I'm more interested in the reason WHY.
I also agree that Moral is the wrong word choose. Logically speaking, it just seems that if someone were to kill an adult or a child, they would choose the adult. Maybe it's just because of movies, or how we think as a society, but it almost feels wrong to not save the child, but that's just how we naturally think. But if someone were able to turn that idea around, and prove that it would be better to save adult rather than the child. Than that would be a really though out responds.
You've defiantly dug a little deeper into the surface than most people would. There is no right answer, obviously answers will vary depending on how people think. That's why I'm really interested in seeing how deep someone can seek into there own subconscious. There many reasons people can find to support either Fluttershy or Diamond Tiara.
Hmm Master, it has a nice ring to it don't you think, and Makulo sounds like a pretty cool name. Probably a name for an anime, Makulo, Master Makulo. MASTER MAKULO!!!!!!!!!!!
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church7089 In reply to TheMasterofDespair [2012-08-23 22:31:20 +0000 UTC]
Oh you're fine, I had put this on the backburners until today anyway so it all ended up working out.
I'm glad you appreciate deep thought, and I myself appreciate the amount of time and, as is evident, thought you put into the response.
And I read through as many comments as I deem appropriate, always. That varies from topic to topic, but I think it's safe to say I always read the last 2-3 pages before posting.
Now that all that meta stuff is out of the way, let's jump into the dilemma.
I have mixed opinions on DT as I like to give "Bad guys" the benefit of the doubt, most of the time, and I do the same in real life. People do things for a reason. She's spoiled now, but that will come back to bite her. She also has a strict father, and may be projecting feelings of unworthiness onto those around her. For whatever the reason, someone being mean, though making it hard to help or get to know them, is not proper grounds to hate them forthright.
However, that being said, I don't think my feelings about DT come into play at all in this decision. It's my feelings for Fluttershy that really affect my decision making. If it weren't Flutters', then it would come down to Adult vs Child, and I would always choose the child.
That doesn't mean, though, that the child is always the best choice. You said that it would be interesting to prove that it is better to save the adult. I don't think that's possible. But I think that I can argue that, from a purely objective standpoint, the lives are of equal value and that it all comes down to emotion.
Fluttershy's animals, for instance. They depend on her. With her gone, who is going to take care of them? Killing her would also spell doom for numerous animals, as well as any other obligations that she has. What about her friends? How can they go on without her?
DT, however, has plenty of potential. If she doesn't grow up to take over her father's business and being taught by him, it could affect the market across Equestria significantly. How would Silver Spoon go on without her best friend? She doesn't have responsibilities yet, but she has potential.
One has a role in society, one does not.
One has gotten to live a life, the other has not.
Which of these many variables is most important changes from person to person, and I personally think that if you use them as a bias to choose who dies you are playing the role of God. You have no right to put a stock value on either life.
That being said, that's not going to stop you from trying to do it. In fact, in my case for any other adult I decided that the most important variable is that any adult has gotten a life whereas DT has not yet.
But I realized that my personal feelings wouldn't let me follow through with what I thought was "right".
Now what does that make me? A monster? A humble person? Anything between?
These types of questions are terrible for the mind sometimes.
(Note: I allude to playing the role of "God" multiple times. In those cases, I am referring to a being who is omnipotent and omnibenevolent. I realize that these allusions combined with y username may lead you to believe I am a man of faith and am arguing from some idea of an ultimate good that would give the right answer.
I am not.
I am a staunch atheist, and the references to a God are simply there to be easier to understand.)
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church7089 In reply to church7089 [2012-08-23 22:37:15 +0000 UTC]
Oh, and as a departing gift:
[link]
Check the description while listening.
Enjoy.
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church7089 In reply to church7089 [2012-08-20 01:42:04 +0000 UTC]
Gah, I am stupid when it comes to DA's comment system. I can't seem to edit or delete and fix. I'll just add this reply. I accidentally said Makulo instead of Master. I apologize.
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MetaTiara In reply to ??? [2012-08-19 22:24:18 +0000 UTC]
That's a bit unfair to be asking me, considering that I don't have much of an emotional attachment towards Fluttershy in the first place and that Diamond Tiara is one of my favorite characters. XD Now if it was Queen Chrysalis instead of Fluttershy, then it would be a lot harder for me to decide.
If it was between Queen Chrysalis or Diamond Tiara, then I would have to look at the pros and cons of each. If I save Diamond Tiara and kill Chrysalis, then there's the possibility that she may improve herself as a person/pony. However, I would more likely than not become enemies with the changelings because I killed their queen.
If I save Queen Chrysalis and kill Diamond Tiara, then there's the possibility that I could help improve race relations between the changelings and the ponies, not to mention that I might get to marry the changeling queen and have her larvae. Though I don't think she cares very much for the well being of those outside her species, so it might be risky. Not to mention that I killed a little girl to get there, and that the mane six would probably become enemies with me if they knew I prefer the life of somebody who tried to take over Equestria over a little girl.
Killing Chrysalis would mean I save one life (Diamond Tiara), but quite possibly at the expense of many others (the changelings). On the flip side, taking Diamond Tiara's life could give me a chance to help many other lives than just one, and a better chance at figuring out a way for changelings and ponies to peacefully coexist.
If it was between Queen Chrysalis or Diamond Tiara, I'd sacrifice the latter, but I would try to make it as peaceful as possible.
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TheMasterofDespair In reply to MetaTiara [2012-08-22 15:08:10 +0000 UTC]
When I read your comment, I completely forgot it was Fluttershy and Diamond Tiara. I was honestly starting to believe it was Queen Chrysalis and Diamond Tiara. But that does make things a little bit more interesting. I should make a contest just for you about killing either Queen Chrysalis, Trixie, or Diamond Tiara. I know they are your three favorites. But judging by your first paragraph, I'm under the impression that you would kill Fluttershy. But that seems to be just because you have more of an emotional attachment towards Diamond Tiara.
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MetaTiara In reply to TheMasterofDespair [2012-08-23 00:39:17 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, choosing to do that to Fluttershy doesn't sound that tough to me. And of course, being forced to decide to kill one of my three favs would definitely be tougher for me. What would the exact terms of this scenario be?
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ChaoCream In reply to ??? [2012-08-15 04:06:52 +0000 UTC]
Can't I let them kill me instead? I would rather die than let someone else die. I mean, wouldn't it be the same either way?
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TheMasterofDespair In reply to ChaoCream [2012-08-15 04:27:08 +0000 UTC]
That is very noble of you. I respect your honor and loyalty, so I will let you die in their place. They are free to go, and since you are a follower of Christ, I must say, that he would be proud.
By the way, if your interested in saving Diamond Tiara from the hatred she faces among our fellow Bronies, join The Diamond Cutters. We are a group formed to bring love and tolerance to Diamond Tiara, if you want to check it out, just click the link below. Please, she could use your support.
Save Diamond Tiara - [link]
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