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Description Here's a pic of a T rex next to a Ceratosaurus from the Jurassic Park 3 movie and I admit there pretty close in size with the sub adult T rex being at 37 feet long and 14.5 feet tall and the Ceratosaurus being at 30.5 feet long and 12 feet tall so yeah that is pretty close but any way's I hope you all enjoy the pic and here are two music video's I found that them in it youtu.be/k0zpmUTtX1Y youtu.be/QfgGCI34lqg
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ak1508 In reply to ??? [2018-02-22 20:09:35 +0000 UTC]

Which paleontologist was it created by? 

Yeah, not a subadult, but a young adult. Technically, thats older and more mature than a subadult. Reached full size, but still shows features of a young adult.

Dont mind at all, ask away! What i meant was that first two films are a lot more consistent with each other. Third film starts changing the designs completely and introduces random things, and then JW kinda goes back to the original, but also changing a few things about. But what i mean mainly was that the 3rd film is the part where it breaks the continuity. It just generally derails the franchise and loses track of what its all about.

Well, i was annoyed at that lot. I also never miss the chance to rant about it, but I just think its important to see it for what it is. Reason is not because spino is a mutant (we are never given any context on how it came to be etc), or rex is a subadult (my original pooint int he first post - no evidence or claims being made on that part in the film), but its simply because Hollywood said so. Period.

Yeah, Indominus is essentially "replacing" the jp3 spino as mary sue, but we see it getting beaten by the rex at the end. I also hated that they made rex and blue team up, i dont like how in the 4th film they humanized the dinosaurs too much. I was very angry about that. In any case, Hollywood has derailed this franchise a logn time ago and i dont see any optimistic progress on it in future either. Maybe better than JP3, but still gonna be the annoying and useless kid characters who we know will never get eaten, and perhaps even some SJW agends pushing like they did with Claire and her high heel running from the rex. So yeah, I need another cup of ale!

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MerkavaDragunov In reply to ak1508 [2018-02-23 00:30:12 +0000 UTC]

Which paleontologist was it created by?  oh according to the kickstarter here www.kickstarter.com/projects/1…
it said that they have leading experts which includes Robert DePalma, Dr.Victoria ArbourDr. Denver FowlerDr. John R. HutchinsonDr. Matt Wedel , and Dr. Gregory Wilson.  


yep JWFK plot wise is very promising
rexy and blue team up is less what was hyped for and more by accident (blue is the one that killed I.rex due to it opening the opportunity for Roberta when she was down reasonably (she's a grandma! no matter how strong she can be age can bring her down).
humanization of the dinosaurs in the 4th film? that is a perspective i did not see. you don't mind explaining this?

i hope the hilariously named Indoraptor (literally Indian Thief) is not as OP narative wise or the cheesy exec selling them did not destroy the plot. 



hey bartender another mug full!

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ak1508 In reply to MerkavaDragunov [2018-02-23 10:24:47 +0000 UTC]

Well, funny thing is - there is not a single mention on their website about any of them on the main page where they list all their team members. No lists of citations used and none of these people from paleontology are being credited, if they were indeed consulted for the project. Even if they didnt directly consult them, they should list all their research material on the main page. If you claim "scientific accuracy", you have to show your primary sources, which are peer reviewed science publications and allow anybody to backtrack the research and verify all the information and claims being made. This is how it is done. They didnt do it, yet they claim they have "real paleontologists involved in the project!". I only recognise that Dr Fowler may have been their consultant for ceratopsians, but thats only cause it slipped around soemwhere. But yeah, this is a very bad lack of professionalism right there.

No, i meant the 2015 JW, it almost humanises Blue and T.Rex, so it kinda made me really annoyed that they are no longer those forces to be reckoned with as we know it from first and second film. And technically, that was a big toss up for them to make this t.rex old, cause even at the age of 30 it is not old yet. Sue is 28, Scotty is probably similar (according to Dr Thomas Carr), yet they are actually STILL young adults!nearly 30 years old and still not fully mature yet, can you believe it?! So, yeah a rather poor research on Hollywood, but we have to remember - Hollywood uses these things for plot convenience, it doesnt care about anything else.

I hate that they went with the idea of another hybrid. I had enough of that concept in the 2015 film. As matter of fact, I dont know how truly promising this upcoming film will be as so far it looks like a cheesefest all the way and a lot of re-used and recycled plot parts that are just pointless and dont bring anythign new to the table. I wanna hold my horses until i see the film, but im not expecting much, just another flick. Thats what this franchise has become in my eyes and why i kinda fell outta love with it and pretty much do not aknowledge anything other than films 1-2. Second film could have been also done WAY better, but its still way above all the further sequels imho.

Im gonna have to do a rant on these topics soon!

Bartender, another round!

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MerkavaDragunov In reply to ak1508 [2018-02-23 12:44:34 +0000 UTC]

wait does that mean Rexy/Roberta is a young adult? damn that is new.
yeah i hope JWFK does not recycle the TLWJP (second film) as much, especially the city scenes with the San Diego buck incident. 
so they just nerfed Rexy so hard just to give I.rex such power (which sounds mary sue-ish). strange that she did not receive such a backlash despite nearly doing what Spino did only with a pre-established character! an iconic one even! instead she is met with warmth across the fandom. 


oh i forgot to refer what i said about the team up to the 2015 film. also the Mosasaur thing with I.rex sounds like deus ex machina if you think about it as unlike Rexy in the first movie which was foreshadowed more and have logical sense of being lured, the mosasaurus is out of pure luck (stuck in the tank after all). also the hyrbid concept technically started with the first movie as they said none of the "dinosaurs" are pure. they're not true dinosaurs yet they name it after them anyways, and I.rex is not a new idea either. also as much as is told by the fanbase that she can tear tanks etc, she had yet to prove that in the movie and has prove anything abouts its power. some fans said she can take down tanks yet can't pierce JW ankylosaurus armor which is organic mind you and AT rounds can kill a hippo with one round (by modern times that would be standard rounds of the RPG-7 etc.).  most of the time they miss! also it makes me wonder that mosasaurus besides pandering it is also used as a plot device for that deus ex machina instead since they run out of ideas to take out I.rex in the story


yeah the second film make sense, as the author of the novel series did not want to continue the series and want JP as one book. hence the issues are bigger in the second novel than the first. 


looking forward to your rant.
anyway
another round too mate!

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ak1508 In reply to MerkavaDragunov [2018-02-23 15:02:32 +0000 UTC]

Well, if we look realistically - yes, thats what it means. But in movie context she's apparently an old hag, which i find annoying.

I think it sbecause spino in JP3 was being presented and treated like it was the real animal, while people knew it was nothign like the real spino even at that time. So a lot of folk simply felt like filmmakers insulted their intelligence with that cheapshot and mockery. I-Rex was being presented as a genetically modified creature and was explicitly stated to be so obviously, plus it is part t.rex, so the only thing that is stronger than a t.rex is either another t.rex that is bigger or lucky, or it would be a t.rex mutant on steroids (I-Rex). So it kinda all falls into place in a way, much better than JP3 spino does.

Yeah, but the movie still kinda treated them as if they were at least close to the real conterparts and we were ok with that. It wasnt overly scifi and we still recognised their real counterparts in like 90% of the animals at least. With I-Rex its a completely different story, it praqctically does not resemble any real dinosaur at all, because it is completely made up from "scraps". Mosasaur part was obviously random, but i called it even when the trailer first revealed a mosasaurus, people called me a "prophet" after the movie confirmed my prediction lol
Dont believe anything fans say, just go with what the movie context is actually showing you. Also, note that Irex had to flip the anky upside down, so it did not show the power of the t.rex of having a good anti armour bite and actually using it to exploit weak parts of the armour. They just went with the arm flipping thing instead. A lot of things about t.rex and several other animals there are very under-represented or completely misrepresented, which is basically well.. Hollywood. If you find that its lacking, then this answers some questions as to why the writing is crap in certain areas. Many fans like to come up with excuses to justify bad writing or consistency problems with the franchise, instead of just accepting that Hollywood is simply butchering their beloved franchise.

No i meant the film, not the books. Film itself could have been done way better than it has. It is still nice but it still is underwhelming next to the first film.

No worries, hopefully soon! Cheers!

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MerkavaDragunov In reply to ak1508 [2018-02-23 16:01:58 +0000 UTC]

yeah.....
i understand that you're referring to the films instead of the books
fans can just get so attached to their fantasies eh?
i am also slightly upset that Rexy/Roberta just KO carnotaurus in the trailer implying that the carnotaur will have much less screen time.
also logically for the I.rex to built for the military means that the role need to be explained ( officer assassination? scouting? raid? siege? etc.) this is never elaborated on in the movie.
also i can also sense some pandering in the JW series as NONE of the original Isla Nublar "dinosaurs" are returning besides Rexy/Roberta (i am not sure if the brachiosaurus of JWFK is the original JP brachi)
not to mention in some information they list the mosasaur as missing.....
are you kidding me? how could you lose an over sized mosasaur stuck in a tank in the film the tank has never been damaged!

but for me I.rex design wise as much of hybrid as it is, its pretty bland even some critics say is just a big JP raptor. 

when you made that rant hope you dive deep into the bad writing or/and consistency problems of JW series

also what are your thoughts of adding much more accurate unestablished creatures to the film canon? as carnotaurus of JWFK is pretty represented well and fits into the canon plus is unestablished to the film canon. 
also your thoughts on the baryonyx?
for me it's pretty bland and does not resemble a baryonyx at all. strange they create a new "droid puppet" instead of reusing the Spinosaurus set just by removing the sail and changing the skull/head.

also one last thing
would you clarify this please?
" A lot of things about t.rex and several other animals there are very under-represented or completely misrepresented"
still did not understand how they're misrepresented or under-represented
thank you!

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ak1508 In reply to MerkavaDragunov [2018-02-23 22:13:38 +0000 UTC]

It makes no sense to use them in military, they will get totalled by almost naything. This makes this "weapon" useless because it is: 1. vulnerable to almost any heavy ammunition that starts from a machine gun and higher; 2. cannot take out armour (tanks, armoured vehicles etc); 3. Cannot take out large masses of infantry; 4. Only close range combat, which is almost never a battlefield situation. If anything, soldiers tend to engage in close quarters in more confined areas where projectile weapons also tend to be more adapted for closer encounters (SMG, shotgun, handguns etc). And being so big is the only thing that will delay its inevitable death upon confronting an infantry unit with the listed weapons, but because of that very size it wont be able to be used properly to the full potential in such confined areas; 5. Which leads to Indoraptors, but those would die to anything being shot in the head. Also, soldiers in good armour and perhaps equipped with protective helmets as well will be able to stand their ground pretty well against them, given that it will be too long for an indoraptor to figure out how to expose the soldier's armour weaknesses before the hybrid gets turned into swiss cheese after rounds and rounds of shooting. So yes, military subplot was dumb as fuck.

"Losing" a mosasaur - no comment! (fuming)

Irex design is nothign special, its a very generic movie monster kinda thing, there is absolutely nothing super clever or interesting about it.

yes, bad writing in JP/JW movie franchise has to be addressed, people really need to stop being such fragile snowflakes and just accept it for what it is. You won't be hating it as a whole if you simply perform the healthy criticism and reality check on it froma  variety of stand points.

I am all for accurate dinosaurs, as I see no excuse to get them wrong. Its not hard to make them right if you got the technical skills to make any creature. Makes sense? Now, while it may be interesting to see variety of creatures, it is also where consistency problems happen a lot without givign any good context or background as to how and why they were there. Also one of the points about writing.

Baryonyx is just wrong. I see the real one in the museum in London very often when im there and JW one looks nothing like that. Impressionistic at most, but thats just not a baryonyx.

Under-representing a t.rex, i mean they dont show how powerful their bites were and what they could really do to the full extent. They never give the characters any lines that would say soemthing like "no, dont even try it! one bite will crush you instantly" and then maybe give a rough figure of how powerful it is. Simple line, taken from a citation of studies and while adding more character to the creature it also gives the FACT as well. This is SMART writing, but we dont really get to see all that. In 2nd film it was nice that Sarah mentioned that they needed to fix the baby's leg in time so it heals, as if it is crippled, then it will die too soon given the large increase in mass as they grow up. Why did they introduce the whole :cant see me if i dont move" idiocracy, which i dont think was in the novels and they just shoehorned that into the film. WHY?!?!?! It waqs far from it, their vision was EXCELLENT and it was the only large theropod that could see forward way better than any others because of the unique anatomy of the skull. Most other large theropods dont have that and show what is typically described as a primitive condition, when eyes dont have much of a degree of forward vision, but only face sideways. In second films the trex pair should have killed WAY more people on the island. They were pissed as fuck and having those humans there would be equivalent to having a monitor lizard in a tank of mice - will be all over in a matter of minutes. And they had 2 t.rexes there and they only murdered like a couple humans... that should have been a bloodbath! In JP3, stead of showing us the completely unrealistic spino take on a trex, why not instead have two male rexes fighting? there is evidence of tyrannosaurids engaging in such things and fighting is a common norm of social behaviour among crocs and many species of birds too, so why not show that instead? We have never seen them address that aspect of their behaviour properly, we seen their parental care nicely done in second film, so why not that as well? And from there on they would have had the rex that lost the fight chase after humans, cause it became a rogue and doesnt have its own territory at the time etc. I mean, i still think there is better prey there for a rex than a bunch of ignorant and annoying humans, but it would have made a more convincing argument than the reason (absense of) for the spino to chase them the whole duration of the film. 

All films except for the 1st and 2nd in the franchise practivally ceased to carry any deep messages within them, which is partially why they went downhill.

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MisterFINNale In reply to ??? [2018-02-21 00:00:10 +0000 UTC]

Nothing, but a scallywag. So disrespectful. I'm done with low-classes like but before I go I'm saying this...

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TheSpiderAdventurer In reply to ??? [2015-06-29 02:18:14 +0000 UTC]

I messed up on a word it meant to say "stuck" not "suck" sorry about that ^^

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ak1508 In reply to TheSpiderAdventurer [2015-06-29 02:26:14 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I saw that one already! I was thinking that having them all in there together might be cool. Although you may need to play around with the positions so its not too much overlaying, otherwise it will turn into a mess

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TheSpiderAdventurer In reply to ak1508 [2015-06-29 20:46:57 +0000 UTC]

alright then

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TheSpiderAdventurer In reply to ??? [2015-06-29 02:07:05 +0000 UTC]

Interesting nice why to put it I've have thought of it but it didn't suck honestly and also I did made the t rex and spino version before this which is here fav.me/d5jlhlj but I can do all of them together to later I guess

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