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Published: 2014-09-29 09:17:57 +0000 UTC; Views: 7612; Favourites: 132; Downloads: 51
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Description Image really says it all. What is with the fin, really? Takes the "Carcharodon" in carcharodontosaur a little too far.

References:
Ortega, Escaso & Sanz 2010 A bizzarre, humped Carcharodontosauria (Theropoda) from the Lower Cretaceous of Spain
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Comments: 31

Corallianassa [2016-07-17 20:18:35 +0000 UTC]

Hey, I know this is old, but Conca's quill knobs are back since I don't know how long.
At first, paleontologists thought they were quill knobs, then they changed that to muscle attachment point, but now they are once again believed to be evidence of feathers.

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Tomozaurus In reply to Corallianassa [2016-07-17 21:21:08 +0000 UTC]

"This is old" is all you needed to say. This image was drawn before even the abstract defending the 'quill knobs' was released.

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Corallianassa In reply to Tomozaurus [2016-07-18 08:29:00 +0000 UTC]

oh sorry.

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grisador [2015-09-12 16:13:05 +0000 UTC]

Δ°ts ''fin - sail'' looks like a result of an injury

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Nazrindi [2015-02-27 05:54:02 +0000 UTC]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks its possible that large theropods may have had bare skin. I look forward to the day when we have more impressions from these dinosaurs, though. The way you've depicted it seems very plausible, and I approve of the presence of lips. The mid section of the neck does seem awful thin, though. I can see the avian inspiration for it, but given the vertebral anatomy, isn't it more plausible that large theropods had thicker necks?

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Tomozaurus In reply to Nazrindi [2015-02-27 06:49:34 +0000 UTC]

My reconstructions are all done with a strict adherance to accurate musculature.Β s13.postimg.org/lvt0fvlt3/Conc…

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Nazrindi In reply to Tomozaurus [2015-02-27 23:59:36 +0000 UTC]

I see. I still think it's missing some of the mass added by the trapezius though, judging from your diagram.

Here's what I'm proposing, and the change wouldn't amount to very much, I don't think:
s23.postimg.org/zatim5ye3/conc…
The extra skin on the neck is my personal preference, since I think that it's likely large theropods had thicker necks than smaller ones to accommodate the swallowing of large chunks of meat, similar to the way crocodiles and komodo dragons have thicker necks than would be expected for their skeletons. I know that birds can get by just fine without it, though, so maybe not.

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Tomozaurus In reply to Nazrindi [2015-02-28 00:14:25 +0000 UTC]

Your diagram certainly looks plenty plausible to me. Just chalk it down to difference in preference. Komodo dragons only have thick necks in certain postures, when they stretch them out as this Concavenator is doing, they look quite litheΒ www.nwf.org/~/media/Content/Na…

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Nazrindi In reply to Tomozaurus [2015-02-28 02:16:28 +0000 UTC]

I'm glad that you think it looks plausible.

Yeah, they do look pretty lithe when they stretch their necks out all the way. Just like when birds fold their necks in, it's very deceiving as to the true length and size of the neck.

Oh, and I was going to ask: why no feathers?

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Tomozaurus In reply to Nazrindi [2015-02-28 02:25:52 +0000 UTC]

Conservatism is why no feathers. These size charts are supposed to be super conservative with minimal speculation as they are intended as educational graphics more than art. Seeing as we don't have any idea what integument allosauroids had on their thoracic hinge-region I felt it best to leave it devoid of either feathers or scales.

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Nazrindi In reply to Tomozaurus [2015-03-08 21:17:16 +0000 UTC]

Okay, that makes sense. I've been trying to contact the authors of this :
dml.cmnh.org/2004Aug/msg00136.…

To give me details on what the scales actually *looked* like apart from their size. So far, no luck. Very much a shame it wasn't published in an actual scientific journal. Because the so-called scales, given their extremely small size, could be more like the featherless skin on the thighs of ostriches...but we just don't know because they won't say anything about their distribution. =/

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Tomozaurus In reply to Nazrindi [2015-03-08 21:22:58 +0000 UTC]

Yes exactly, and we don't know anything about their location other than that they were on the left side. They could have been on the left side of the leg, or the left side of the tail.

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Nazrindi In reply to Tomozaurus [2015-03-08 21:50:54 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, exactly.

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Orionide5 [2014-10-12 02:09:43 +0000 UTC]

Huh, I didn't realize it was so small... for a carcharodontosaur.

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Mesozoa [2014-10-04 06:43:25 +0000 UTC]

i like the overall design of this magnificent beast

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ChrisMasna [2014-10-02 01:56:02 +0000 UTC]

Cool stuff, please teach me to draw hands like that

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Tomozaurus In reply to ChrisMasna [2014-10-02 07:35:54 +0000 UTC]

Sure:
Step 1 - draw some circles.
Step 2 - draw the rest of the fucking hands.

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T-PEKC In reply to Tomozaurus [2014-10-04 16:58:18 +0000 UTC]

Best tutorial ever!

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yoult [2014-10-01 10:35:24 +0000 UTC]

But more serious, the feet scutes look interesting. Any reason why you went this way or just guessing?

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Tomozaurus In reply to yoult [2014-10-01 10:54:10 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it is how Ortega et al. describe them in the paper:Β "scutate scalesΒ are rectangular and are situated on the anterior metatarsal area andΒ the dorsal digit zone. Scutella scales are placed lateral to the scutateΒ scales; they are smaller but also rectangular in outline."

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yoult [2014-10-01 10:34:09 +0000 UTC]

Next week on Discovery Channel: The land shark lives!

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Mesozoic0906 [2014-10-01 08:15:25 +0000 UTC]

Shorter in height than I thought..

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Tomozaurus In reply to Mesozoic0906 [2014-10-01 08:21:38 +0000 UTC]

Standing like this it is, yes. Is that a problem?

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Mesozoic0906 In reply to Tomozaurus [2014-10-01 08:24:33 +0000 UTC]

Never. I just learned new thing.

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Tomozaurus In reply to Mesozoic0906 [2014-10-01 08:28:46 +0000 UTC]

That is the right way to think.

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DinoBirdMan [2014-09-30 22:23:22 +0000 UTC]

Amazing, but there's no quills on this both arms.

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Tomozaurus In reply to DinoBirdMan [2014-09-30 22:56:13 +0000 UTC]

No.

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pilsator [2014-09-30 04:50:18 +0000 UTC]

Cool stuff, as usual. And yes, the Carcharodon in carcharodontosaur thing didn't go unnoticed by me when it was described as well.

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Ornitholestes1 [2014-09-30 02:37:00 +0000 UTC]

Holy shit, I never even thought about *carcharodon*tosaur

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TheRealZilla360 [2014-09-29 17:45:43 +0000 UTC]

Beautiful work; I'm amazed at your talent.

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Tomozaurus In reply to TheRealZilla360 [2014-09-30 22:57:38 +0000 UTC]

Thanks very much.

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