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well, another sketch I made during break.. I can't sleep..----
try to color it for a bit, see if I get it right.. hum..
sketch one can be found here on derpi..!
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to ??? [2015-09-09 01:13:21 +0000 UTC]
Ahahah.. yeah I did manage to get some sleep for few hours.. heheh..!
Anywaay~.. well, this is only a rough sketch.. but if you like it, then I'll color it digitally..! And, well, to say that I tried to avoid exposing much of her.. what could you 'hide' under that vest anyway..? she's already showing more than half of her body there..! And yes, she's holding a megaphone, so yeah she is a lifeguard.. yes the cap is too a lifeguard accessory..! Ahahahahah..! But no, I did nothing, it's Adagio herself that shows her beauty..! Still, if anything, it's all thanks to the EG staff..! Well, the vest, the swimsuit top, and eve the pose is generic.. I did nothing special..! And about the hair, wow.. I thought I messed it up.. you can see how lazy I am from her hair there..! I did no justice, I barely even did it only water..! pff- eheheheh.. get it..? And, what detail..? All I see is a flat sketch, really..! But about the face.. well.. it's a face she pull off when interacting with Sonata.. so yeah that's her expression, alright.. ahahahah..!
Well, this sketch is not final.. who knows, maybe I'd change it then.. But well, no worries..! Right now all I can do is pencil sketch, and I don't know when I can finally return to digital sketch.. so take your time..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-09-10 06:00:08 +0000 UTC]
I'm happy you got to sleep at least a bit.
Of course I like it. I love it. And her, despite everything. It would be wonderful to see it coloured. Yes, she's showing much of her body exposed, but Sonata certainly showed more, so I'm comparing her to that. As for your part, you depicted Adagio here, so all the execution of Adagio showing her beauty is on you! That is, all the thanks for it too! I don't care if the elements of the picture themselves are generic - the combination and execution is what matters here! All those beautiful details. And the hair, well, it's unfinished yet, just a trial sketch. And yep, good job putting her into her proper expression and mood.
You mentioning water and hair in one phrase there made me think of Adagio with wet hair... not straight, but still wavy and curly, like when Pinkie has a wet mane in S3/4. Those thoughts and mental images... they bring such a delicious pain.
Sure, you're free to change the sketch as much as you like. I'm happy to see you sketch it out already, I'm very happy about that indeed! And time is not an issue - it may take as long as it needs to! If you complete that image, ohh... I'll indeed be overjoyed.
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-09-10 18:48:17 +0000 UTC]
Well, I'm happy you're happy..! Ahahahaha..!
Oh, no no.. you don't like or love 'it', you like and love her..! And yeah I'm sure it would be wonderful if colored.. heheh.. anyone wants to color this..? No..? Okay.. hahahah..! Anyway, I see, so you're comparing with Sonata pic earlier.. well, yeah, maybe I should give her vest too..!
But no, again, I did nothing but generic stuff..! it's Adagio herself that makes it beautiful..! And what details..? I see no such thing..! But yes, the hair is quite unfinished as laziness hit me.. because I did it last.. heheh..! And again, it's Adagio herself..!
Well, I mentioned water because you said "ice"..! you said "just-ice", so I replied "only-water"..! pffh hahahah..! But yeah, I'll try to make her hair wet yet still curly..!
Heheh.. yeah I still want to do more with the situation and her pose.. try to make it more clear..! Well, even though time is not the issue.. it's still me you're talking about.. don't get too excited.. I might not meet your expectations.. waaah~..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-09-10 20:55:20 +0000 UTC]
I love it and I love her, and loving her makes me love it more. Would you accept that?
The details are the same kind that were in your Sunset sketch. The pencil shadow work and shading. That, and the way you depict how cloth folds and rests, is all beautiful.
And yes, I got that... after some time, admittedly. I guess I'm slower on these things than I should be. And... you would do that for me? Oh, I would be grateful indeed... Wet-hair Adagio would be so gorgeous.
I'm sure you'll meet my expectations and possibly exceed them. And it'd be lovely if you augmented those. Time is indeed not an issue, no matter how long you take - you know that I might, most likely, take much longer with making something on my own end.
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-09-12 03:19:35 +0000 UTC]
Ahahaha.. yeah I will accept that, just because you clearly stated that you love it (my sketch that is) because you love Adagio..! It means, should I make a sketch that is not MLP related, I don't think you'd love it.. obviously..!
About the details.. yeah I see it now.. well, that's not really a 'detail', and the folds on the cloth there is also random and unrealistic.. so, it's still all laziness..! Ahahahah..!
Anyway, yeah I'll make Adagio's hair a bit wet.. but if I'd just continue this sketch or make a new one, I still don't know.. my laziness keep telling me to just color this one.. heheheh..!
And no TIM.. no..! I don't want someone to expect anything out of me, because the chance they'd be disappointed is high~..! But still.. I'll try.. heheh..! And don't worry about your 'end' there, or half of the 'trade'.. ahahah.. speaking of, I seen many artists have offered you to do collabs.. wow, you're quite popular, aren't you..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-09-12 04:50:39 +0000 UTC]
Well, you're right in saying that I probably wouldn't have nearly as much interest in your work if it weren't pony. Some artists hate it, but I hope you don't mind. In fact, you drawing pony things (or, currently, EqG ones) in your way is unique - if it weren't pony, it would've hardly stood out from other similar styles. So, I suppose, there's this element that I haven't been mentioning much - your drawings are this good for me because of the pony element making them stand out.
The folds are not really that random or unrealistic, though. They're pretty nice. That's mostly how cloth folds anyway.
Whichever way you prefer to go about it, I'll be looking forward to it. Do whichever works best for you.
And well, I know I expect a picture of Adagio done by you. How it will be is up to you. I only expect it to be on par with your other drawings, which have been quite beautiful so far.
And thank you for your generosity! As for collabs, well, I've only seen one, and... well, they didn't seem like they knew what they were talking about to me specifically, as in, maybe they expected my uploaded commissions to be my work. And, obviously, they aren't, they're stuff I commissioned before (and not all of it either; I actually forgot some of my commissions). I'm not exactly popular or anything, and there's not too much reason for me to be.
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-09-15 00:54:07 +0000 UTC]
Ahahahahaha..! Well, yeah, I don't really mind it.. but now you know why I often refuse to accept those compliments..! The ponies make my drawings stand out, so it's the ponies you need to give your compliments to..! And the staff also..!
And.. well, maybe Adagio make them look pretty nice.. because Adagio herself is pretty and nice..! You agree with me right..? eheheh..!
Well then, I'll just color this then.. don't want anyone expecting me to do something more than what I've been doing.. And, what generosity..? I haven't done nothing..!
Anyway, yeah.. that could be.. Well, maybe some of them want to do something else beside drawing..? For example, you and I here are doing a collab for our fic..! Ahahaha..! And, maybe you're not popular artist, but people know who you are..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-09-16 05:00:56 +0000 UTC]
Oh, and in regards to Adagio's hair...Β Β AndΒ
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-09-16 14:52:30 +0000 UTC]
Ahahahaha..! See?? These kind of artists are the ones you need to give your praise and compliments to..! They deserve it..! They make such simple drawing technical-wise, yet the context is very very funny and interesting..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-09-16 20:16:23 +0000 UTC]
The funny thing is that you've just described yourself.
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-09-17 06:46:55 +0000 UTC]
What?? No I didn't..! I mean, look at my drawings; so bland, and not interesting at all..! So, no.. obviously I'm not talking about myself.. I'm talking about them..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-09-17 15:07:06 +0000 UTC]
Yes you are~ And you don't even know it~
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-09-18 04:29:52 +0000 UTC]
Oh, nooo~.. I need to change my trick then..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-09-18 16:04:02 +0000 UTC]
Stay right the way you are, sweet pirate~
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-09-19 16:41:27 +0000 UTC]
Well.. I am staying the way I am.. that is always putting all the compliments back where they belong; to the staff and the characters themselves..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-09-19 19:51:42 +0000 UTC]
And I am where I am, returning them to the actual recipient~
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-09-21 01:08:46 +0000 UTC]
Oh you are?? Yaay, let's return the compliments to the actual recipients; the characters and the staff..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-09-21 04:22:53 +0000 UTC]
Well, I intend them for you, so you're the one who's going to receive them~
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-09-22 04:32:32 +0000 UTC]
No no no~..! Don't get distracted..! There are other artists that requires your praise and compliments to boost their morale and get better..! That's what you do, right..? Give developing artists morale boost..? So let's do it..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-09-22 04:46:43 +0000 UTC]
Don't redirect the issue here~ This is about you and what you are going to receive.
The other artists all get their turn. When I find something to say, particularly something good, I'm happy to say it. Though there've been enough cases over the time where I chose not to say anything, because it would look too bad if I listed my issues with something and I wouldn't feel honest with myself if I only gave praise.
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-09-24 09:33:25 +0000 UTC]
Ahahaha.. yeah you said so..! Well, anyway, say what you need to say from the heart then..! I remember a lion-turtle once said, "The true mind can weather all lies and illusions without being lost, the true heart can tough the poison of hatred without being harm".. I don't know what that means, though.. eheheh..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-09-24 20:28:16 +0000 UTC]
You know everything perfectly well, miss pirate. But yes, I do. It's just that I sometimes can't feel right in the heart if I said everything my mind can note about something out loud. It doesn't really happen too often, but it does happen. It hasn't happened with you, by the way.
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-09-25 16:21:02 +0000 UTC]
pffh-.. heheh.. aye, in this case I do.. say it from the heart.. So, that's about it then..! I do sense you choose your words carefully, even when dissing a certain character.. ahahaha..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-09-26 18:01:48 +0000 UTC]
I guess I do. It would be wrong not to choose words carefully anyway, it's better to say the right thing and not the wrong one, hm? And I wonder which character you mean. Was it Luna, by any chance? If so, well, I wasn't really dissing her, it's just that I don't react to her with the same blind adoration so many others seem to. I like her as a character, I just don't feel the insane, head-over-heels need to worship her. Particularly since much of it has come not from the show, but from early fan interpretations of what was then basically a blank slate.
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-09-28 01:51:17 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, you do.. and yes it would..! Ahahaha..!
Well, I was talking about other char, the non-reformed villain one, but now that you mentioned Luna.. it does kind of seem like you're.. uh.. 'not-dissing' her, too.. Ah well, it doesn't matter..! Even if someone hates a character for what they are, it means the staff successfully made the said character alive.. enough for anyone to hate or love them..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-09-28 16:45:43 +0000 UTC]
I see. Well, as I said, I like her and don't hate her, myself. I like her canon self much more than what many fans prefer to interpret her as, though. It just feels to me they're ascribing to her many different traits that she doesn't show actual signs of possessing - that is not so say she cannot be that way, only that she has shown no indication she might be and has largely been in a way that would not be fit for them. I prefer Luna, not Magical Teen Gaming Waifu. So no, I don't hate her. Still, what you say is true enough, at least unless a character is hated for not being alive enough. Case in point, the "enemy" principal in Friendship Games - they sure made her to be alive, and she is there as a hate sink as well. Particularly if one's dealt with such characters in their life too.
But, well... I forget who I apparently dissed. Could you help me?
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-09-29 08:55:06 +0000 UTC]
I know nothing about that, some who interpret Luna differently and give her any trait she doesn't show she has and won't fit her.. I mean, like what, for example..? She's acting cute, since you mentioned "waifu"..? Ah well, it doesn't really matter actually.. so, no can do, let's just forget about it..!
Again, like I said in another chain, the character feels alive means they feel real.. real enough for anyone to love or hate them, whether the status is still alive or already deceased in their story..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-09-29 19:36:16 +0000 UTC]
The problem I have with that interpretation of Luna (it can be collated into a single one, despite individual differences) is that it completely ignores her actual canon personality post-Luna Eclipsed. It's not cute things, no, although sometimes it does play a part. They basically portray her as a kind of wild child with not a care in the world who spends all the time playing games when she's not feeling those teen mood swings and bouts of attention-horsing and wanting admiration for being that way, and being unjustly and evilly mistreated by her oh so villainous sister, who happens to be an authority figure standing in for parents. It just completely disregards who she is and rewrites her entire character based on some people's own personal lives and dream ideas of what kind of girl they'd like to be with/just be. So it's a case of people inserting themselves or their idea of personal paradise (playing games all day, all night, all their lives and being admired for it) into a character and completely overriding the actual character's personality, a mix of character breaking and self-insert.
Though, I admit, there is another version that I cannot stand just as much and can't be directly boiled down to that, though it's related - basically portraying Luna as unjustly victimized and antagonized by Celestia or just plain everyone, in a form of "everybody just doesn't understand!" teen self-expression/self-insert. It's what I referred to originally, things like when Celestia completely destroys half the world and brutally murders Luna for being cheered on the streets by the citizens in Celestia's own presence, or where Luna is apparently being chased by Celestia's army seeking to do the same for no visible reason - not Nightmare Moon, but the normal Luna. Thankfully, though, it's been on the low since Luna's appearances from S3 onward.
You're happy if you know nothing about that, then. I've had to deal with it far too much for my own taste.
And yes, that's what it means for a character to feel alive - by far not every work accomplishes that. The character being lifelike and acting like a real person is a very big thing for me, and pony has it for all the characters in its focus.
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-10-02 08:28:34 +0000 UTC]
Ah, I see.. Hum, why do I feel challenged..? I'm going to create something that may or may not be Luna's trait and perks, and I'll see if it's something to your approval..! Well, we're originally not talking about fan interpretation anyway.. so, that's it, then..!
And yep, more points for the staff..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-10-02 21:37:17 +0000 UTC]
Ooh! A Luna from you would be quite fun to see. Perhaps you could try a pony one, or do a human Luna instead - the lady who knocked me out two times over by now. In any case, she would be interesting to see indeed. For the record, I haven't found anything to disapprove of in your depictions of Luna to date - they were either fitting or humorous and thus running on their own rules.
And yes, indeed.
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-10-05 07:35:04 +0000 UTC]
Oh, would it, really..? Ahahaha..! Well, I've drawn pony Luna several times.. maybe I'll make the CHS Vice Principal now.. but, how am I going to draw her, that shows nothing from the canon.. Ah, I'll figure it out somehow..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-10-05 15:51:39 +0000 UTC]
Well, to be fair, Vice Principal Luna is fairly close to normal Luna in behaviour. Maybe she's nicest to little kids compared to any other kind of people, like Luna is to CMC. You could draw that - always a crowd pleaser, and also a good feature of her onscreen portrayal starting as early as Luna Eclipsed.
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-10-07 14:34:02 +0000 UTC]
Puh.. what are you talking about, TIM..? Of course Vice Principal Luna would be close to Vice Princess Luna in behavior.. isn't that the whole idea of EG..? Ahahaha..! But, you don't like it when some artists interpret her to be something that she doesn't show in the series, or doesn't really fit her.. you said so..! So, as a challenge to myself, I'm going to draw her not to be how she's portrayed in the series so far.. and see how you're going to react to that..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-10-07 19:47:53 +0000 UTC]
Well, it kind of is, but there're some pretty significant differences, what with them having rather... different backstories and duties even though the traits are similar. So far, human Luna has been rather Luna-like in our fic here, so I wonder what you have in mind for her. That said, I wouldn't have expected any less from your teasing self, so I will just have to wait and see.
Also, Luna is now a princess of Vice City.
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-10-09 08:13:25 +0000 UTC]
Heheh.. again, isn't that the whole idea..? That they might have different backstories and duties, but their traits are similar..? Ahahaha..! But with you saying that EG Luna's been Luna-like in our fic.. that makes me wonder.. how so..? Ah anyway, I'm going to use some of the things you hate from fan interpreted Luna and try to picture it my way..
Also.. a princess of Vice City.. well, I see what's going on here.. pff- ahhahaha..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-10-11 02:55:47 +0000 UTC]
True, thatβs essentially the idea with their traits being similar yet the people/ponies being different. As for how sheβs been Luna-like β sheβs been acting from the background, but making rather decisive moves which ended up altering the course events in a major way, namely knocking Starbright out two times in a row and sending out the search parties; in her few appearances, sheβs been very direct and quite emotionally detached, even though it is apparent she has emotions. And with her sister (are they sisters in the human world? I donβt know if they ever said anything about it in any official material), sheβs more open and personal.
If you wish to use the things I hate, then you would choose well to take the βGamer Lunaβ (essentially a hormone-high teenager bent on playing games who gets princess immunity and treatment anyway) and βVictim Lunaβ (the poor, beautiful and unjustly persecuted and hurt princess) types and roll them into one.
Speaking of that, you could combine Gamer Luna, Hunted Luna and Vice City. That was a good game for its time; I remember having lots and lots of fun with its cheat codes and using them to play it my way.
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-10-12 05:02:27 +0000 UTC]
Yes it is..! And I see it now.. ahahah..! Wow.. mysterious as the dark side of the moon, she is..! And yes, in EG1, Celestia refer to Luna "my sister", so~ yep..!
Now, of course I already noted what are the things you hate about those interpretations.. I already have a plan for that story about gamer Luna, yes.. and that she's being unjustly tortured by "evil" Celestia as well..! Like I said, I only need to figure out the beginning and the end, then the mid-story will write itself out.. ahahahah..!
Eheheh.. I know how that feels.. yeah, Vice City is indeed a fun game..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-10-12 17:54:52 +0000 UTC]
Ah, I forgot. Thatβs good, then! I prefer them as sisters at all times, myself. And yes, Celestia maintains a public presence even though her important machinations are usually in the shadows and behind closed doors, while Luna stays in the shadows and is in public fairly rarely in comparison and acts from them as well, though sometimes it brings her out into public. At least itβs normally that way β sometimes Luna also acts in public, but so far she hasnβt done much of that. It wouldnβt be out of character for her, but she doesnβt try to be welcoming to ponies/people, unlike Celestia. (Though, to be fair, Principal Celestia sounded so terribly overworked that it was less welcoming and more βshe needs a hug and a vacationβ.)
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And of course you did! Youβre observant and understand things, after all. Trust me, itβs more rare than it seems. And it depends on what you want to end it with β whether you want it to be over-the-top ridiculous like a fanfic by Rainbow Dash or resolve as a βnaaah, joke, jokeβ sort of setup.
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And yes, it is! I miss GTA games having cheats like Vice City and San Andreas did, I really do. The new way is fancy, sure, but it lacks the dynamism and the ability to chain cheats in tricky situations. After all, in those games you can have an entire cheat-based gameplay that plays somewhat like a wide-open-sandbox Garryβs Mod. Which also doesnβt conflict with the actual missions/story, as you can play those without engaging cheats and then go crazy in between them for a change of pace.
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-10-14 17:43:31 +0000 UTC]
Well, of course, they'll always be sisters..! Yes, that's how sun and moon are.. one is clearly there when it's there and we really feel the presence, and the other one is a bit softer in presence and need more effort to see it's beauty.. heheh..!
Ahaha.. well, I don't think I am.. but I guess I do pay attention to some things..! And, well, I know nothing about this fanfic by Rainbow Dash, but it's not it.. and it's not "just joking" setup either..! It's even more cliche..!
Oh yes, I know how it feels..! I too like to mess around and go crazy in San Andreas when I wasn't on the mission.. hahahah..! I guess they remove cheat perk because GTA V is more online than offline..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-10-15 19:17:48 +0000 UTC]
And without one, we'd all be dead (if it were suddenly gone) or never alive in the first place (if it went away before our time), and the other wouldn't have its light if not for the first! I guess the sun/moon comparison is both more off and yet more correct than some would think.
You don't think you are, and yet you are! And yes, cliche things are probably the best thing to go for if you want to deliberately parody/exaggerate things, particularly if it's overplayed to the point of ridiculousness.
Yeah, 5 is more online than offline and it's sometimes bothersome, even. I spent hundreds if not thousands of hours playing San Andreas in this mode, really - I did everything there was to do, from high-altitude battles using boats made to float upwards with the bumping cheat to going around the entire map on a bicycle in riot mode with full wanted levels. I guess the latter is still possible in 5, but it wouldn't be nearly as fun nor last nearly as long without cheats to reset health and armor and such.
Hay, if anything, I could get behind adding a "no stats" mode to 5 where you could still play online, but with people who also have that mode on only, and be able to cheat around with them instead of doing it all RPG-style. I think that'd be plenty popular, myself.
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-10-17 01:47:50 +0000 UTC]
Ahahaha.. such beauty, the universe that is..! Am I right..?
Oh wow, I am..? I didn't realize that..! And, yeah, I'm just going to make it cliche.. because it's "light".. ahahaha..! Like this for example..:
After some interaction with the student, Luna starts playing games.. But her playing games gets her popularity among the students, to which Celestia seems to be disliking it for some reason..! So then Celestia starts charging some complicated tasks to Luna.. while it makes Luna quite exhausted, she's still able to do it perfectly, and able to do some gaming sessions with the students still..! Then, Celestia enacts a new rule, that everyone, including the staff, is forbidden to bring any gadget to school and just use what the school has provided.. yet Luna and the students are still talking about the games they're playing..! Things happen, Celestia then confess to Luna, that with Luna been playing with the students all the time, she's feeling left out.. they use to do their school job together.. but with Luna gone, Celestia feels empty, even though both are doing their job perfectly as school principals..! Luna then clears the situation, saying that wherever she goes, no matter how far, she will always comes back to Celestia, because they're sisters..!
Ahahahaha.. yeah I spent quite a time playing San Andreas too..! Spawning cars with nitro, then causes a riot.. before finally making them all explode..! Ahahaha..! Oh wow.. why do I feel so bad now that I think about it..? Anyway, the mods are also making it even more fun..! Well, yeah, V is also fun for its multiplayer perks too..! Hahah..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-10-17 20:33:42 +0000 UTC]
And such beauty, the Sunbutt!
Yes, you are!
Hah, that's not even cliche. For it to be cliche, Luna would have to be violently expelled from her post or something. Though the "Luna is superior" thing is a definite trait of this, so I guess it makes up for that. If anything, what you ended up with is an "acceptable" version. Particularly the part with them making up.
I used to play GTA in this kind of sandbox mode before I got into MMOs, and then after, when I was bored or tired of them for one reason or another. Often, I played it in "point defense" mode - that is, I picked a point to defend on the map, like the top of a billboard or a low concrete wall, and shot from there. One time I spent an entire night up playing Vice City, defending behind a low wall next to the big shopping center in the southwest part of the map, sniping the maximum-wanted-level forces, even tanks. Though in San Andreas, I moved around a lot more because of how huge and open the map was in comparison. There, I also often played it in escape mode, that is, picked a vehicle or just grabbed one at random and tried to run away from riots and police in it across the map. Like the bicycle example above. Though, to be fair, in V it's possible to include mods that work like cheats and trainers, which kind of brings some of it back. Kind of like this . And at the same time, it makes things impossible before possible due to the moddability, like this . And yeah, it does kind of occur to you that going crazy in the game can feel wrong 'cause it's just a city and just people and police and stuff, but then again, in the GTA world, particularly 4 and 5, the game even goes out of the way to show every single person in the game as complete arses and monsters, if only via their telephone conversations and random actions.
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-10-19 04:19:02 +0000 UTC]
I don't know what a Sunbutt is.. but, well, I don't know..!
Well, if you say so, then..! Hahah..!
Oh, really.. hahahah..! Well, I couldn't make Luna to be expelled from her post, as a Vice Principal.. not without a reason that make sense, and I don't know what would that be..! And, I don't quite get it about this "Luna is Superior" thing, but, well, I don't know..! But yeah, if that was acceptable, then that would be my resolve of those gamer Luna, and victim Luna, and evil Celestia stuff..!
And, wow.. again, you wrote all that and I don't know what to respond.. I mean, yeah I know about those mods.. real funny mods they are.. ahahah..! And, yeah, we may feel like it's alright because it's just a game, and that even if you die, you can always respawn.. ahaha..! But it sometimes scares me.. what if I become numb about it..? Having "killed" so many in-game characters when playing games, I fear if I'm beginning to get used to it.. killing people that is.. uugh~~.. Ah well, as long as we value every living things, I'm sure we'll be fine..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-10-22 15:15:09 +0000 UTC]
Why, Sunbutt is Celestia! Same as Moonbutt is Luna and Starbutt is Twily. Rarity happens to be Gembutt. Pinkie is, fittingly enough, Balloonbutt. Fluttershy stays Flutterbutt, though. AJ is Applebutt. RD doesn't get a definitive term, though. But you get the idea, I'm sure.
And see, that's the point! You want and need good reasons (and, to me, that is so with good reason), while they don't. And that is their point. I'll use that example again - Celestia sees Luna getting cherished by the citizens, so she flies into a rage, makes the sun overload, somehow floods the world and kills over half its population, then locks Luna in a box and drowns her. Why? Because she's a psychotic egotistical tyrant bitch who gets off denying her sister any affection, of course. It doesn't matter that she's anything but in canon. Those people prefer it that way. It's not supposed to make logical sense, it's all about the emotional idea of that. As for "Luna is Superior", it's, of course, because in the proposed version Luna can handle anything thrown at her just fine; that's how the overblown Lunatics see it, that Luna is supposedly more talented and skilled than Celestia twice over, but Celestia just holds her back arbitrarily and doesn't let her develop/exercise/show her talents and skills. It's yet another facet of "Parents just don't understand!" teen rebellion bullshit, really. But yes, if anything, I would say this is not even bad, although it does still tickle me the wrong way 'cause of containing these things. I just hope you don't make it your AU's canon.
It's funny - this is not the first message saying that I wrote a lot and someone doesn't know how to respond that I got this week. The answer is simple - however you like, even if with a single word. I'll be happy to hear your reaction anyway, whatever it is! And this is what you do, so yay! Thank you. As for the game - well, it doesn't work like that, because we know it's not real. You aren't used to killing actual people - if you don't think so, try contemplating killing one of your acquaintances and you'll see what I mean. You know it's fake in games and you know it's real in the physical world, and there's, well, a world of difference. There're rare people who somehow can't see it, but those are truly rare freaks rather than the norm. That said, even in games, I try not to kill enemies when given the chance not to - I always play in "pacifist" or "clean hands" modes, as well as staying unseen whenever I can (though I also tend to knock out all the guards and hide them in places, if I can do that too). Why, when I livestreamed Dishonored earlier this year (I think it was this year, or maybe last year... I forget.), my stream was best remembered for "maid stacking" in the Boyle party level, 'cause I had to knock them out to move through there undisturbed without crashing the party.
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-10-24 16:32:33 +0000 UTC]
Ahahahah..! I see.. for the moment there I thought it would be like a Sun with a face on one side and twin buldges on the other side that is interpreted as butt.. like in those Amazing World of Gumball cartoon..!
Yep, that is how I make my story.. and yes, those school principals are based on my AU, that based on the series..! Skip to the "Luna is Superior" case, I don't think I actually implied something like that, let alone Luna is twice skilled than Celestia, in what I wrote there..! I did write Luna did her job perfectly even under pressure, but I didn't write she did it easily, let alone wrote that it was something Celestia could never do.. If anything, it is Celestia the one who's twice skilled than Luna, seeing how she could manage rotating both sun and moon for a thousand years just fine in the series..! But, well, if somehow you interpreted it that way.. then you'll just have to live with it.. it's your own interpretation, and I allow my viewers to interpret anything out of my work here..!
Well, you said it yourself in our main chain, that when I put a long entry, you kind of feel the need to do the same.. so, yeah, that's exactly it..!
And, yeah, of course I know real world and in-game world..! But it's not about inability to differentiate the real and the fake world, it's about the simulation the fake world offers that much or less kind of has influence to the gamers..! If your example is to imagine killing one of my acquaintances, well of course I wouldn't want to do that.. but what if it's someone I have a grudge against..? Maybe I wouldn't feel so bad about it..? Ahahaha..! But, yeah, of course I know what you mean..! And yes, I like games like Dishonored.. that different path we choose in the game would also result different outcome..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-10-29 20:18:31 +0000 UTC]
Naww, we're talking about beautiful Celestial phenomena, not crude humour!
Well, 'course they are. And I suppose you're right - even though the people looking for it would still find it, the "Luna is Superior" bit, just because Celestia doesn't demonstrate her skill as well - and her doing that would not be necessary for the story. That said, you're kind that way.
I guess so. Still, what I find to be an absolute deterrent from what amounts to blurring the mental line between reality and simulation onscreen is that very normal "reality check" - imagining yourself doing the same in exacting detail, from the pain the victim would feel to the resistance their body would offer, and putting yourself in their place. If you aren't willing to go through with it, all good. If you are, something is very, very, extremely wrong. If it's someone you have a grudge against, I doubt it's going to be a very big one - one deserving stabbing them through the neck and watching them bleed out and clutch at you in horror and die before you, and then dealing with the aftermath of their friends and family irreparably hurt and police after you.
And sure, multiple-path games have always been fun. Though single-path games can be too, provided they're also well-executed.
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-10-30 12:03:48 +0000 UTC]
Ah, I see.. well, I guess a sunbutt is something celestial phenomena to you, then..!
And, aye they really are.. and by that I meant they are based on what I interpreted them..! But, well, yeah.. that happens.. *shrugs*
Well, like you said on other chain comment, maybe it doesn't have that much of impact, like books, or even movies.. But, originally, I was talking about me, and me saying all that is because I kind of feel that way, that I'm starting to become numb about it.. What I wrote there, witnessing something terrible and horrible directly in front of me, really happened.. and back then, while I did feel sympathetic to the victim, I wasn't really horrified witnessing it happened in front of me.. I really feel sorry for myself..! But it's my own problem, and I promise you not to tell any more of my sob story..!
So, yes, multipath games are always fun, it's fun for me because I can replay it and choose different path..! But yes, single-path games are also fun to play too, I like to challenge myself by replaying such games differently..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-11-02 20:41:37 +0000 UTC]
Only if it's Celestia's, of course.
And I suppose it does.
I'm sorry to hear something horrible like that happened to you, sweetest pirate... It always hurts me to hear things like that. *calls Princess Celestia to come in and hug you* But well, the thing is... if anything, it isn't wrong to not feel completely horrified - if anything, it's taken as a mark of strong character and bravery to take even the most horrible things in stride. Myself, I mostly narrowly avoided getting into such things, and the only cases I could call properly horrible or terrifying happened very early in my life and didn't involve loss of life and limb, though a high risk of that was indeed present. While I don't remember them, people tell me they did have an impact on me. Please, if it makes you feel any better - don't feel constrained, feel free to tell anything you like! But if it only makes you feel worse, there's no need - after all, we've agreed to keep secrets already.
And likewise, sweet pirate, likewise.
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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to TwilightIsMagic [2015-11-03 03:26:22 +0000 UTC]
Oh, is that so.. well, I get it then..!
And, yep, that does..!
Anyway, well, again, let me worry about it myself.. heheheh.. it's my own problem and I don't want to make you worry about it.. so again, I'll keep this horrible experience to myself, and just share the good ones to everyone..! Maybe sometime later, I'll be able to vent to you as well.. eheheh.. ehehehehe..!
And, yay..! We both do like to challenge ourselves..!
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TwilightIsMagic In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2016-01-31 07:19:29 +0000 UTC]
Iβll let you worry about things yourself, of course, but I wish that you did not have to worry about them at allβ¦ Sadly, we cannot undo what already happened. I hope you will not have to dwell on bad things like that much, my dear pirate.
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To liven up the comment chain, though, as well as continuing the topic in a way β have you happened to play that one game that took the interwebs by storm, Undertale, yet? It fits the topic requirements of multipath games, challenges, violence and nonviolence and care for things.
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