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codeyaha In reply to ??? [2015-04-16 19:35:06 +0000 UTC]

hehe either way. for some reason I'm still thinking dangerous mission, spy codename stuff. I'm sure in equestria it's all about titles like Starswirl the Bearded. 

could totally pull a [luna->nightmare moon] with sunset. everyone avoids and shuns her and everyone loves her counterpart twilight sparkle and keep bringing up her past as the bitch of the school and the demon who enslaved everyone as zombies. can totally see she had a whole bunch of negative thoughts in her. but... who knows how that would work. sunset gives into the dark side? and looks all sombra-ish? I don't know lol, think it'd be fun if her attitude came back. not unlike how cocky nightmare moon was.

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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-04-17 00:20:53 +0000 UTC]

Haha.. codename like Phoenix and Shadow..? "This is Phoenix, I'm at position.. over".. "This is Shadow, ready on my mark.."

Well, I like Sunset from the very first time I saw her in EG.. but in EG:RR, well, like you said -though you weren't really referring to, Sunset is so meek..
I was actually hoping for a Discord case; he is reformed but still got all his shenanigans.. but Sunset.. well.. mainly the reason I created Sunny S. Shimmer in the first place..

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-04-17 05:16:00 +0000 UTC]

hehe that's cute. now I totally want super soldier secret agent team "Twin Suns"! missions and crimes will always be perfect because they always have a perfect alibi...

oh wow, I didn't realize you felt so strongly for EG sunset. that would have been cool though... if sunset was redeemed but her character stayed the same. think that's a popular complaint about EG, how sunset had that big change after "tasting the rainbow" she did have a pretty interesting personality like if twilight had a more brash and ambitious personality like rainbow.

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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-04-17 14:22:37 +0000 UTC]

Heheh.. yep, the two will always be together, in secrecy of course..

And.. pufh-.. you said it as if I was crazy about her..! Ah well, if that what it actually seems, I won't deny it..
But yes, the hell-face turn thing was a bit -like always- rushed.. again, if I am allowed to compare, Vidia is still a perfect example.. she changed not out of defeat, but out of responsibility..

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-04-17 22:41:10 +0000 UTC]

so no big surprising reveals where someone stumbles in on the both of them in the same room? lol.

ahh got another question. to other people do they look identical? besides the facial expressions they use. like besides not smiling, isn't sunny taller and maybe older? 

wondering because above I imagined one of those "I'm sick or something, I need you to pose as me and go in my place"

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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-04-18 02:30:02 +0000 UTC]

Oh, it would be a little bit surprising should someone caught them together.. which is why Sunny always being all stealthy and secretive..
Those who know Sunset don't know about Sunny, but only a very trusted few who actually do.. like Derpy the pigeon, Trixie the illusionist, and the Vice Principal.. (those are the persons/ponies I think best in keeping secret)

Well, Sunny only made Sunset play her role as a unicorn pony of Equestria, and that's it.. and not even Sunset realize about this.. how evil, huh..? heheh..

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-04-18 06:33:29 +0000 UTC]

oh wow... that's an interesting group. derpy, trixie and luna? kind of an oddball group but not saying that's a bad thing. they're really cool and fun. especially how trixie always seemed so antagonist towards sunset or how brainwashed VP luna in rainbow rocks didn't believe sunset about the dazzlings.

gotta say though I like the idea of Sunny's little group. I mean... sunny, derpy, trixie, luna and the crusaders? that's a cool group ^^

makes me wonder what happened to sunset's human life before sunny changed her memories and life. I mean I think you mentioned before that sunset was just a nice girl before sunny arrived? seriously wonder if any of sunset's old friends met with sunset after being personality changed and being shocked or something that she became a mean girl. like wow... how crazy would that be actually? if the girls at the school that feared her in EG or shunned her RR could have been human sunset's old friends.

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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-04-18 15:07:52 +0000 UTC]

Ahaha.. well, you want a secret mission, you got it..!

Sunny of course would need an insider to keep her updated.. so, here's the S-Team:
Derpy, someone who can blend in anywhere.. she watches the portal and the area..!
Trixie, the one who openly being antagonistic towards Sunset, actually keeping an eye on her closely without raising suspicion..!
And finally, the Vice Principal Luna, someone with authority.. No information goes in and out without her knowing about it..!

They know about Sunny, they also know about Sunset, but Sunset doesn't know they know it.. and yet --here's the interesting part--, they don't know that they're all working for the same person..!
Hahaha.. ah well, iJoke..!

Anyway, yeah I think that would be interesting.. I did say that Sunset was a nice girl, smart and helpful, but pretty mediocre student.. the type of girl who would let you copy her homework..
I of course can make up a story for her too, but for now maybe I'll just wait for a canon information about MLP Sunset Shimmer's parents in Equestria.. then I'll start working on my Sunset Shimmer..!

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-04-19 01:57:25 +0000 UTC]

I love the idea for this s-team, it's kinda like sunny has her own little brotherhood that she's sending out on missions and kinda has a secret network going for her. again... is there a better kind of scout than derpy? she has that uncanny ability to somehow be everywhere and anywhere the action is happening and she's so unassuming who would ever expect she was on a mission? 

oh whaaaaat, that is sooooo crazy but that's such a cool idea... that these three are all working for sunny independently but unknowingly working together for a common goal. and trixie... having a cover of kind of antagonistic rival but is actually an undercover guardian for sunset? that's a really cool idea, i'm sure there are better examples but that reminds me of Snape from Harry Potter. just the idea that this person they think who's out to get them but in reality is the one protecting them. just like how well it plays the "last person you'd expect" especially trixie of all people! who was really pushing sunset's buttons in the movie.

I'm kinda gushing a bit lol, it's just a cool idea that you can play with. like if they aren't aware of each other there's kind of that chance that their missions may cross and maybe interfere with each other. I mean sure you described it above how the three have different missions but what if in addition to that sunny told them to keep an eye on sunset and then suddenly sunset's in trouble and they all try to protect her while maintaining their cover... it actually sounds kind of slap stick comedy because of that lol. well for example say there's a kidnapper that the S-team sees and they thwart the kidnapper (and each other with funny results) in various ways. like derpy trips the kidnapper in the hall by being clumsy or trixie hassles the kidnapper with her showboating or something and vice-principal luna "protects" sunset by giving her detention in her office or something lol.

hehe kinda funny hearing you say sunset is a mediocre student but there was fluttershy asking sunny to help her with her homework. I wonder if that would ever raise any red flags with fluttershy and make her suspect that something is a bit off with sunset. would love to know more about sunset's origins myself, like who was she before being celestia's student. 

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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-04-19 06:38:42 +0000 UTC]

Wow.. that is really good..!
Seeing you putting all that there.. not only you got the basic, you also make it richer.. I don't know how many times you've helped me by expanding my ideas..!
But, the most interesting for me is that your usual pattern so far is making it into a comedy, be it romantic, or slapstick.. and that is what I'm actually lacking; Comedy..! Sunny is all serious.. and I tried to make Sunset the funny and innocent one, but she ended up being a plain but cute character.. I want her to be more like a squirrel-vixen type of a girl, someone who has a little bit of Pinkie's craziness, and a bit of Fluttershy's bashfulness, and a bit of AJ's honesty.. Oh wait.. that would be Sonata Dusk..!
I also quite like it how you.. like, making everyone falls for Sunny, and they're fighting over her..! first Fulttershy, then Hakase Twilight.. who's next..? Apple Bloom, or one of the trio..? Ahaha..!

Well anyway.. about Sunset the mediocre student, that was her before met Sunny..
I'd just make that Sunset was in a different grade school, maybe in the city, before she go to Canterlot High.. so, she's a new girl in town..!

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-04-19 19:21:22 +0000 UTC]

hehe wow really? I didn't know I was really helping or anything, just throwing out I think would be cool or what I'd like to see. but that's rockin ^^ glad you could make some use out of my rambling lol. hehe what's there to say? comedy is just what I like to see the most so my imagination just rolls with it and tries to make it funny. I figure if I think something is funny and show it to someone who thinks similar to me then maybe they'll think it's funny too

ooo a sunset that's part pinkie/fluttershy/applejack that sounds cute ^^ crazy+bashful+honest that's an interesting combo.

haha it's pretty easy to play around with romantic comedy with someone like sunny who's really cool, admirable and generally a nice person but isn't interested in romance. hehe oh the crusaders? I think that'd be kinda cute if one of them looked up to sunny as an older sister but I feel like sisterhoof social already did what I'm imagining lol. like I'm thinking it's like anime where the younger sibling is in love with the older sibling and you'd think with AB and sunny's history that would work well, where AB wronged sunny but realizes she's not that bad and actually finds out she's a nice person and that's when AB starts developing feelings. But that doesn't sound all that different from AJ and AB's relationship. Sweetie Belle I thought would be a pretty cute one but it'd be like sisterhoof social but instead of applejack it'd be sunny in her place. that's still cute though... AJ and sunny's personalities are really different. just the idea of sweetie belle clinging to sunny and saying to rarity she'd rather have sunny as her sister. Scootaloo... that's kinda interesting... I think that one really depends on how you imagine scootaloo and rainbow dash relationship. for me because of her personality rainbow dash is really brash and prideful and not exactly the best big sister so she kinda neglects scootaloo because she can't understand her feelings. so scootaloo and sunny's relationship could develop from something as simple as scootaloo is feeling sad or bummed or depressed and sunny just let's her speak her mind and listens to her which is something rainbow dash wouldn't really do. and who knows how that'd work out? scootaloo realizing that sunny is a better sister to her than rainbow is? haha... that'd be kinda funny though... if all three of the crusader girls pulled that Sisterhoof Social moment with their older sisters

Crusaders: And that's why we're adopting Sunset as our big sister!
AJ/Rarity/Rainbow: WHAT!?
Crusaders: A sister is someone who loves and takes care of another sister. Sunset's a real sister.
Crusaders to their sisters: Or maybe she should be your sister, so she could teach you what a good sister is supposed to be!

hahaha I'm enjoying that a little too much, I just think it's such a cute scene. Knowing me it would end with Sunny being totally oblivious and not paying attention to what's going on between the siblings and ends with Sunny suddenly having six little sisters looking up to her

Rarity: You've got fabulous fashion sense!
Rainbow: You're so awesome!
AJ: Gotta admire a hardworking self-made business woman

ooh... you can kinda mess with that too... i mean, remember when EG pinkie pie met twilight for the first time? and said something like "do you have a twin sister who lives in the city and has a dog that looks just like [spike]?" I'm thinking what if before meeting sunny, sunset went to a different school in the city? and that city is the one where twi-hakase lives. and what if twi-hakase and sunset were childhood friends and/or classmates (which I think has a nice charm because they would kinda complement each other, like sunset is the nice but not very bright girl but twi-hakase is kinda loner but smart girl and they're friends) but one day sunset moves away and twi-hakase doesn't know what happens to sunset after that. but then the RR ending with twi-hakase happens and she's suspicious about canterlot high and goes to investigate. *insert story here maybe vampshy* twi-hakase meets her old friend sunset/sunny again but it's weird because her friend is like a different person and doesn't remember or recognize her. and maybe through misunderstanding thinks the weirdness is what caused her friend to change. for example... what if twi-hakase thought the craziness was because of vampshy and the reason sunset changed was because vampshy used mind control vampire powers on her. giving you a kinda awkward situation where twi is trying to save sunset from fluttershy

went on a bit longer that I expected but yea lol. feel like there's room to mess with that more. get to go into sunset's history and see how twi-hakase is connected in all of this.

lol this turned out a lot longer than I expected. sorry for the wall of text.

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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-04-20 02:52:06 +0000 UTC]

Ahaha.. well, don't worry about the wall of text, we've been doing that from the very moment you commented "Her hidden blade is gone..! She's defenseless..!"
I saw your "resume" and this is what you do on dA, interacting with so many artists and share ideas with them.. and I'm so glad you're here..!

Anyway, yeah.. I like that type of a character.. smart but oblivious, and absolutely clueless about romantic relationship..!

Now, about the trio of Cheerilee class..
Apple Bloom, I think she already has a good sister; supportive, protective, capable and reliable.. but yes, I like to think she "falls" for Sunset because --continuing the comic-- Sunset not only forgave her so easily, but she also understands her, after the bad thing Bloom did to her.. heheh.. I mean, who wouldn't fall for that..? And spending some time with Sunny, whom she thinks it's Sunset, makes her even more attached..
Sweetie Belle, well, what I think is.. Rarity did spend some quality time with her in Sisterhoof Social, but what Sweetie wants is to be taken seriously.. that is what Rarity fail to do.. With Sunny --again whom she thinks it's Sunset--, not only she does that, she also gives Sweetie important role as the physicist, she gives her the trust to complete what it is in the blueprint together as part of the team..
Scootaloo, now this is a bit hard.. so far what I see from her is that she admires Rainbow Dash as some-pony/one she wants to be.. yeah, maybe Sunny listens to her, and gives some tips and also trains her to be what she wants, for example, singing, or engineering or machinery.. to unlock most potentials Scoot possess.. maybe Sunny also teach her about "mark of a true hero is humility".. to be so humble, yet so powerful.. then Scoot thinks of her as a new goal to be..

Hahah.. well, but knowing me I'd be more like; After they done with the blueprint, Sunny then send the trio to bed and summons Sunset and says "It is done.." and leaves the area.. making the trio thinks they've been hanging out with Sunset they know..
Ahahaha.. anyway, Sunny said "Friendship can be dangerous in my line of work.." so she always tries not to get too attached to things, and just (remember all the sadness and frustration, and) let it go~..!

And about Hakase Twilight.. yeah, I like the idea that she and Sunset were classmates in grade school..! But what I have in mind is that both Sunset and Twi are brilliant minds, and when they were offered an acceleration program, Sunset politely refused but Twi gladly accepted it.. that was when they were parted; Twi moved to San Fransokyo or any high-tech city and continue her research, and Sunset went to Canterlot High and finally met Sunny..
Yes, after the case of VampireShy, the two finally meet each other.. but Sunset doesn't remember her (her memory's been tampered by Sunny..) Yea Hakase Twi may blame VampireShy, but then Sunset's also starting to realize the truth about Sunny..

Wow.. so much ideas blooming in our conversation.. and I love that..!

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-04-21 20:28:45 +0000 UTC]

oh wow I was not aware I even had a 'resume' of my history lol. suddenly feelings really self-conscious xD hehe nah I don't think what i do is all that impressive. I'm just a fan who says what's on my mind, not much to it "looks awesome" "your a great artist" "I really like the lines you drew" or "coloring is great on this!" or "wouldn't it be cool if..." "this reminds me of..." and "nice job" "keep up the good work" haha well it's nice to hear that something I said could help out an artist I'm a fan of, even just a little bit

hahaha I have to admit that 'little sister love and affection' are pretty funny to play around with. just because kids can be 'honest, mischievous and affectionate' and most people won't think twice about it because they're "just kids being kids" If I were to make up a quick example of what I mean, let's pretend applebloom really is a 'love rival' for Sunny's affections and you have her in the same room as Sunny, fluttershy and twi-hakase

AB: Sunset Shimmer!
*hugs sunny*
shy and twi are just watching annoyed: (who's this kid think she is putting her hands on sunset?) (I'm so jealous, why can' that be me?)
AB is just acting like a cute kid: I love you Sunset Shimmer!
Sunny is kinda indifferent but humors her by petting AB's head. AB enjoys the attention and looks over at shy and twi and when Sunset can't see she gives them a smug smirk knowing she's getting all the attention
Shy and Twi get more annoyed: (this brat!) (uwah... I wish Sunset would pat my head like that)

I wonder if sunny is really alright with that, even if that's what she says. I mean we often see a lot of characters who have that kind of thinking "if people knew I cared for someone they would go through them to get to me"(loved ones makes me weak) or "the only way I can protect them is if they have nothing to do with me"(I love them but it's for their own good that we be apart). it's one of those things that's really popular in comic book heroes, batman for example would be the type a and spider-man would be the type b. sunny sounds like type a. I just wonder because even the biggest loners want companionship sometimes. like even though batman prefers to work alone he still has the bat-family (robin, nightwing, catwoman, etc.) kinda learning that sunny is kinda drifting into this when it sunset, where she's developing... something... feelings maybe? that's actually a pretty interesting progression where sunny viewed sunset as a 'tool' feeling nothing for her and then more as a person and actually feeling guilt for using her like that and now she's kinda trying to make things right by taking care of and watching over her. ahhhhhh that's actually pretty good story wise... I mean how ironic is it when Sunny has her strongest feelings for Sunset and then Sunset confronts her all angry and maybe even hateful finding out that up to this point Sunny didn't really care about her and was just using her.

I was actually thinking about your idea about Sunset realizing that things like her memory and history just aren't adding up and I thought that was brilliant. I mean imagine twi-hakase and Sunset's paths crossing

sci-twi: Sunset Shimmer?
Sunset: do I know you?
sci-twi: it's me twilight, how could you have forgotten your childhood friend?
sunset: I think you have me confused for someone else...
*and then stuff happens where twi-hakase shows sunset a whole album full of childhood photos that are undeniably of sunset as a child playing with twi-hakase. cue a confused looking sunset who has no memories of any of this happening and then those little sparks of doubt start building up inside of her and she grows suspicious of Sunny* 

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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-04-22 07:14:08 +0000 UTC]

Well, you should..! We're being watched, for we are all a target.. a target market to be exact.. ahahaha..!
Anyway, yeah.. you helped me and a lot of other artists.. the key is, you show interest to what they are doing, so they are willing to give you what they have in mind.. like their ideas and stuff..
Oh wait, you're not secretly initiating a free-labor strategy to us, are you..? Now I'm being self-conscious..! Ahaha.. nah, iJoke.. no, seriously, iJoke..!

So, anyway.. yea I think so too.. it'd be like siblings fight about being most favorite child to their parents, in this case, the Big Sister.. but Bloom and the rest of the trio have the advantage of being kids.. ahahah..!
But then, how about this; Another form of jealousy arises.. their actual sisters, like AJ and Rarity, hate it that their little sisters actually being fond of another person.. and RD, feels challenged, that Scoot isn't looking up to her anymore (just like the Mare-Do Well event)..! So how are the two Sun Girls going to solve this problem..?

Now, about Sunny.. what I have in mind is; Sunny was, at first, a type C.. someone who only thinks for themselves and uses other people for personal gain..
She had a perfect plan, and to make it work, she needed precision.. She had to be strict, she couldn't get attached to anyone or her plan wouldn't work.. People come and go, a team is nothing but pieces you switch out until you get the job done.. she wouldn't care what would happen to someone else, her own goal was more important to her..
When she saw Sunset being reformed, and her plan worked.. and she thought she was finally free and could just leave Sunset be.. but, no.. in their secret meeting, seeing Sunset smiling innocently, thanking her for everything she have taught, saying her sorry for deviating from the plan* and caused trouble.. how could Sunny just leave her be..?

*the sub-plot where Sunny told Sunset to stay being number two, but Sunset deviated from it and went rogue, became the best at everything, resulting the Red Devil Sunset.. but as we know, that too was also part of Sunny's plan which Sunset's still unaware of..

Heheh.. well, that's about it..! Just like how I like it; a change of heart.. not out of defeat because that would be forced, but out of responsibility and/or consciousness..! And again, just like Discord and Vidia case..!

And finally, the Sunset-Twi case..! Yaay..! That was so good..! Hakase Twi shows Sunset their childhood photo album.. showing they're close friends..!
Maybe we can make a story like.. Sunset knows about Sunny, and Sunset believes that she is the Pony Sunset and Sunny is the Human Sunset.. so at first, Sunset thinks what this Twi means is Sunny.. but then fragments of her memories starting to emerge..!

"I made you who you are, you made me who I am.."
-Sunny to Sunset, somewhere in the story about Sunset discovering the truth..

Wow.. what you do really is impressive..! I mean, I wouldn't even have thought of this if it weren't for your help..! Yaay..!

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-04-22 15:56:07 +0000 UTC]

haha I don't think you have to worry about that, I didn't know what a free labor strategy was until a minute ago lol. Interesting idea though, but it's alright I don't do what I do to get anything other than fun. even if I was an mlp fan artist or writer I wouldn't use these ideas, to me it came from your stuff so it belongs to you. thinking about it like that it kinda is like free-labor from me xD but I don't mind, it's fun

I LOVE the idea of the older sisters getting jealous of sunset drawing their little sisters attention and fondness away from them. Ahh, how ironic would it be that applebloom bullied sunset because she thought sunset was taking applejack away and now applejack is jealous because applebloom wants to spend all of her time with sunset and doesn't come to her for help anymore. haha rainbow is too easy to do this to, she always has to be the center of attention. I just had a thought for a dialogue between scoots and rainbow

Rainbow: Hey Scoots, ready to learn some guitar?
Scoots: Oh yea! Sunset Shimmer actually offered to teach me, she's an awesome guitar player and her lessons are really easy to understand
*gonna assume a rainbow guitar lesson is more or less "play it like this" and "better but cooler"

I think this would be pretty cool, I just remembered you did have a few pics of scootaloo playing a guitar and another of sunny strumming a guitar as sweetie played. now I really want to see a crusader band, like real bad lol. that would be so cute. think you could also play with that too. it's not hard to imagine the crusaders practicing for their band at their homes and everyone discouraging them because they're not playing well but sunset offers to let them rehearse at her house where she teaches them to play and encourages them. 

Rarity: Sweetie Belle, with mother and father out of town you will be staying with me right?
*SB packing her stuff for the night*
Sweetie Belle: That's ok Rarity, I'm sleeping over at Sunset Shimmers house tonight
*SB looking happier than usual. rarity noticing and confused since SB usually really looks forward to spending time together*
Rarity: B-but what about that little project that you and your friends were working on? I thought we could work on it together
Sweetie Belle: it's alright Rarity, I know how busy you are and sunset shimmer was nice enough to help us. She's the best!
*rarity twitches a bit*
Rarity: I-I see, how wonderful for you and your friends.

hehe if you wanna come up with a Sun girl solution to this I'd throw out the sob story where when the big sisters confront sunset about it sunset just says stuff like "I don't have any family of my own and this house isn't as quiet and lonely with those girls around. they also seemed confused and needed some guidance so I offered to help them" or something like that that'll make the big sis's feel bad that they weren't treating their little sis's right and were going to blame Sunset for it. hehe as a bonus I'm gonna add another little romantic comedy moment between rainbow and sunset that would take place after this

*rainbow is sitting strumming her guitar but things get thrown off and she gets frustrated*
rainbow: darn it! why can't I get this right? this should be easy
*sunset looks at the sheet music*
sunset: try playing it like this
*Sunset gets behind rainbow putting her arms around her*
Rainbow: !!! what are you-
*sunset puts her hands over rainbows. sunset looking down at the guitar from over rainbows shoulder*
Rainbow: *gulp*
*sunset is close enough that she's pretty much talking directly in rainbows ear*
Sunset: your fingers are too forceful... if you relax your hand and press gentler...
*sunset holds rainbows hands and guides her through the guitar motions she was having trouble with*
Rainbow: !?! (doki doki)
Sunset: I'll get some snacks and drinks
*Sunset gets up and goes to the kitchen. Rainbow is looking flustered and confused as she grasps her heart*
Rainbow: w-what was that...? *more doki doki*
Fluttershy just watching flustered and quiet "oh... my..."
Scootaloo puffing out her cheeks jealous "I thought only I was taught like that by sunset shimmer"

haha had a little too much fun with that one. just imagine it was sunny, who doesn't think about or worry about personal space, teaching rainbow to play guitar and make it super confusing and funny when rainbow starts acting really weird around Sunset Shimmer.

aww I think that's really cute. idea that sunny planned to just use sunset but seeing her happy made her start to care. I also like that sunny's plans are like perfect and she's planned for everything but surprisingly the one thing that didn't go as planned was that she would care. kinda makes me chuckle thinking that 'everyone loves cute sunset shimmer' works even on sunny. I really enjoy hearing about Sunny and Sunset interacting with each other. I feel like story-wise something should happen to sunset that'll force Sunny to reveal her real feelings. well let me put it this way, what if we're at that point in the story where sunset has found out that sunny has just been using her, lied and manipulated her and her memories and never really cared about her and then stuff happens, like for example celestia sends royal guards through the portal and they find and capture sunset and are preparing to take her back to equestria to face trial and punishment but sunny appears revealing herself to the guards as she saves sunset. sunset wonders why sunny would save her and come out of the shadows and ruin her perfect plan and sunny says something like "it's true at first I was just using you but I grew to care about you and won't sacrifice you just for a plan"

really simplified but that's an idea. doesn't even have to be that dramatic but feel like a moment like that is kinda inevitable. I mean hell... what if they had a mood reversal where Sunset doesn't trust people and becomes a loner and Sunny is trying to fix her mistake by being nicer? just a thought

ooo I think that's a neat idea where sunset thinks her "secret pony identity" is compromised but when she thinks about it she has human childhood memories and her pony memories are blurry. ooooooo man... that would make such a good dialogue...

Sunset goes to Sunny's house
Sunset: do you remember anyone named twilight?
Sunny: celestia's student after you?
sunset: no another twilight
Sunny: I don't know any other twilights
sunset: then how do you explain this?
*shows her the childhood photos depicting a young human sunset*
sunset: you don't have any memories of this... because this wasn't you... it's me
*then sunset reveals something that sunny didn't know*
sunset: the girl in these photos has a scar that I have but you don't. twilight told me it happened when I fell on the playground. it didn't make sense that I girl I didn't know knew about a scar that I kept hidden.

or something like that hehe wow massive wall of text! those dialogues really take up a lot of lines though. haha I feel like I should have been a writer or something for manga. I just like writing dramatic and funny moments though lol. 

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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-04-23 10:27:44 +0000 UTC]

Ahahaha.. no, no, no, iJoke.. seriously, iJoke..! Though, that is what happens in real life..!

So anyway, yeah..! That would be interesting huh?
I really like the dialogues you've made there.. it really expresses the case.. Scoot chooses Sunny over Dash and Sweetie Belle is accidentally comparing Rarity with Sunny, whom they all think it was Sunset..
Now I'm tempted to draw that SB and Rare dialogue..! So funny..! And then after, Rarity goes to her fancy couch bawling "Why Sweetie Belle, why??"

Hahaha.. well, Sunset is always be the one facing the "friendship" problem..!

Sunny was so nice to the trio.. helping them, sharing knowledge with them, and she gives them something that Celestia never gives her; Trust.. she tells them that they will learn as they go, not something like "you're not ready, forget it" kind of words..

*Sunny is standing beside a surreal painting on her wall.. in it a sun is setting, parted half by the horizon, the top side shows an evening red sky and the bottom side shows a bright yellow sky*
"Sun down.." says her..
*she rotates the painting 180o*
"..and rise up. Do not be afraid to fall down, because then we can learn to pick ourselves up."
-Sunny's word of courage that inspires the trio, enough to make them awfully attached to her.

And yet, everyone thinks, including the trio, it was Sunset all along..! So again, how are the two Sun girls are going to solve this problem.. when the Older Sisters, with a feeling like a mother realizing that her child is more attached to another person than herself, stare at her with jealousy look..!

Ah well, about Rainbow Sunset (wow, that would be a nice evening sky, I'm so tempted to draw it..!), Sunset must have done something really really impressive to Dash.. knowing Dash, who always wants to be superior at what she does, I thought she would be annoyed by Sunset's helping act.. but maybe something else is sprouting in her heart..!
(About the dialogue there, I think someone has already drawn that scene.. though, it was Sunset with Twilight in a room alone)

Ye know, on an unrelated note, I actually have made a sub-plot about Dash; She wants to be the very best at everything.. because she feels her father isn't proud enough of her.. Maybe she overheard something and thought that her father wanted a boy, but instead getting a girl.. so Dash is doing her best to master everything, to prove the even a daughter is worth his full pride..! That's also why she often demands a shower of compliment of how awesome she is..!
Well, I don't know if I'd use that in my story.. doesn't sound good enough..

And now, the two Sun girls clash..!
Yes, nothing beats pureness and innocent of a squirrel-vixen girl, even Sunny herself falls for that.. ahahaha..! Sunset becomes Sunny's most vulnerable weakness..!

That is actually an interesting case.. Sunny, who's thorough about everything, paying on every detail, actually missed a small mark Sunset has and recognized by Sunset's closest friend..! Sunset then confronts Sunny, questioning about who she really is.. and Sunny just reveals everything, who she really is, what are her plans, her secrets, and unlocks Sunset's memories..
At first, Sunset's getting really disappointed in Sunny for using her as a scapegoat.. but that is until Sunset's starting to realize that she doesn't lose anything.. in fact, she's actually getting more than before.. she's now part of the Equestria realm, she also has the magic and knowledge to use it, and she also has more understanding..!
Heheh.. I don't want to make Sunset a loner.. only Sunny is enough, not Sunset too..! But if that's what happens, then I'll make Sunny pretending to be Sunset's relative and begs for help to The Five and Hakase Twi..!

Anyway, about scenes where Sunny reveals herself to Celestia and her affiliates.. yeah, I'm actually still thinking about whether or not to keep Sunny and Sunset a secret to Celestia forever, or to reveal it somewhere along the line..!

And yes.. with all this, you should write yourself a fic..! Any fic would do, since you're familiar with many popular show..!
Or if you want, thou can use my drawings and tell the detailed story for each drawing..! Don't leave your account blank..!

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-04-23 21:35:09 +0000 UTC]

haha yea nothing quite like rarity's trademark dramatic-ness. I was going to put in rarity having a dramatic monologue but I felt like it was already running long. basically just her going "oh my sweet sister! what's she see in Sunset Shimmer? what does she have that I don't have?" and then from there the jealousy starts to grow. element of generosity does not share her sister with anyone lol.

I feel like the big sisters confronting sunset and sunset setting things strait would be pretty simple. I mean, you could just do it like they would in the show. not unlike the zecora episode actually. where the big sisters confront sunset all mad and blaming her for the bad things that happened like their sisters not paying attention to them anymore and then sunset just calmly sets them strait with a "friendship lesson" that basically boils down to:

-you guys took your little sisters for granted
-they needed help and guidance
-they couldn't get it from you, their big sisters, so I offered to help
-it's not a good feeling is it? when you have a sister who can't make time to spend with you
(or like you said not giving them trust or encouragement from the person they look up to)

the big sisters feel bad seeing the error of their ways and no longer angry at sunset for "stealing" their sisters. maybe even learn to appreciate that sunset was nice enough look over their sisters when they couldn't. lol I feel like the show would do something where sunset becomes an "honorary big sister"

I find it kinda interesting when you mention things about sunny. they way you talk about her she always seems to have this air of... 'relating to the darkness' or 'in the shadows'. she doesn't talk much, doesn't really show much emotion, never the center of attention, alone, not really interacting with others. which really contrasts with sunset, her voice always carries weight, she gets pretty passionate, peoples eyes are always on her, got friends now, etc. just think that's pretty interesting because they seem so perfectly opposite. like two halves of the same coin. I might be repeating myself but people like that tend to have interesting relationships where each has their own strengths and weaknesses and one lacks something the other possesses so when their together they complement each others existence. had look back because you said something that is kinda in the same vein "I made you who you are, you made me who I am.." I think that's a nice thing that they have with each other where together they made each other better than what they were apart. And another thing you said that I thought was pretty cool was how Sunny pretty much opened up this whole new world to Sunset where she's had the human life that she's always had and she also has Sunny's life knowledge and experience. And on the opposite side, I like to think sunset had a positive influence on Sunny by helping her rediscover her "humanity"

ooooh man... how funny would it be to actually use that to make an identity/misunderstanding comedy scene? where the crusaders(maybe even the mane6) are just talking and somebody mentions something

crusaders: "have you guys ever noticed that sometimes sunset shimmer kinda acts different? 
"what do you mean?"
"like... sometimes she's really nice but turns really serious"
*girls laugh*
"oh come on people do that all the time. I mean look at rarity when a deadline is getting close or twilight when she gets really into a book"
"I don't know... sunset shimmer just seems different from that. it's like she just turns into a totally different person"
"you're just being silly, there's only one sunset shimmer, she's one of a kind"

(kinda flashback)
sunset meets with the girls at school
"are we still on for meeting at my place to work on your project"
girls: "you bet!" "wouldn't miss it!" "what they said!"
sunset smiles
"great! we're going to have so much fun!"
after school they meet up at sunset's house and settle in the living room
"alright girls make yourself at home and help yourself to anything you need"
sunset says sweetly as she goes to the kitchen as soon as the door to the kitchen closes another door nearby opens up and sunny walks out looking serious
"right on time, let's get started"
sunny looks over the girls latest plans and checks over their work and points out new ideas and concepts they can use. sunny answers anything and everything clearly and in detail, being focused and serious and getting the job done.
"Wow I didn't realize sunset shimmer how smart she is"
"I'm surprised how serious she is"
"yea but look on the bright side, look how much progress we've made. who knows how long it would have taken us to get to this point by ourselves without her help"
sunny had something she had to get so she went to her room and as soon as the door to her room closed the kitchen opened up and a smiling sunset was carry drinks and snacks

gotta admit not my best written scenes lol but I think you get the idea.  ahh now I'm kinda wishing I did something else lol. where people are being asked what they think of sunset shimmer and people can't agree. "she's really smart and deep and serious, kinda scary but inspirational" "what are you talking about? sunset shimmer's really fun and sweet and a great singer and guitar player" lol oh well. just needs more polishing. maybe you can kinda play with it where sunny is like the 'inspirational teacher/mentor' while sunset is like the 'encouraging and supportive older sister'

hehe I think I know what you're talking about. there's a drawing by Bakki that has Sunset teaching Twilight how to play guitar. that's where I got the inspiration for the scene. bakki.deviantart.com/art/commi… I just wanted to make something funny and it's easy with someone oblivious like sunny and someone who gets shaken up easy like rainbow dash. characters like rainbow dash are really easy and fun to make tsundere. 

oh wow that's actually a really good idea. that really does explain a lot about how rainbow acts. she HAS to be the best. best flyer, best athlete, fastest flyer, biggest daring do fan lol. but yea your right, she loves attention and being the best and being admired. It also explains how bad she gets when her confidence is shot. like when she thought she wasn't good enough to help daring do or how bad she was during the best flyer competition or how bummed she was when her fan club didn't care about her anymore. i think that's pretty brilliant. explaining all her ambition and drive to be the very best. I wonder if you could also use that reasoning to explain why she's always the pony ready to fight. I think that would be a pretty good scene though where rainbow and her dad actually talk about it. it also kinda plays into the show, why did rainbow move away from cloudsdale to live alone in a cloud house in ponyville? and why don't we ever hear about rainbow's parents?

hehe... now I want a scene where it's twi-hakase vs the mane5 and the prize is Sunset xD just think it'd be funny if twi said something like "Sunset Shimmer is my best friend, none of you know or understand her like I do" 

hehe not gonna lie, I've kinda played around with the idea of fan fics and I have a pile of papers with the ideas I came up with. it's not unlike the scenes I write here lol. 

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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-04-24 02:39:15 +0000 UTC]

Heheh.. yeah, I like the idea of Sunset is now the one teaching them "friendship lesson"..! But I'm still going to try and make Sunset oblivious, pure and innocent, and honest as always..!

"Well.. they only came to me asking for help, and as a friend how could I refuse..?
They told me that their project requires a highschooler but their sisters were so busy, so I accepted it..! The Principal finally approved it and they could start their project..! Yep, that's about it.."
-Sunset to Rarity, with her cute face.. same face she pulled off when she gave Sunny the blueprint.

Yeah maybe this can be a start where the Five, other than Fluttershy, respect Sunset.. and maybe something else is also starting to sprout.. pff hahaha..!

Now, about the two Sun girls.. yes I do make them two sides of a coin, personality-wise.. each Sun has their own role and affecting both..! Sunset looks up to Sunny out of respect, seeing Sunny as Big Onee-sama who helps her build self confidence and self reliance. And Sunny, is also attached to Sunset as someone she can trust, and fills the emptiness in her heart.. well, technically Sunny is still a loner and just bound to "herself", her other self to be exact..!

And the plot-line where Sunset finds out the truth and mad at her for what she's done.. this is what Sunny is very afraid of.. she knows this will come sooner or later.. she then feels lost, and think to herself this is why she tries not to get attached to anyone, because nothing is lost until you lose a friend.. and if you have no friend, you have nothing to lose..
But after realizing all what Sunset achieved together with her, Sunset then goes back to Sunny, saying we're not who we are in the past, our past is not today, and tomorrow we will remember all what we've been through and learn from it..! And then only that day, Sunny is smiling, once.

You see, even Sunny falls for Sunset..! Ahahaha..!
I make Sunset the sunrise, the light bathing the world in warmth, which is now a canon now that she is the Rising Phoenix and all.. that's why she is like innocently the center of attention, and people are happy to be around her..!
Sunny, on the other hand, is the sundown, the shadow of the day that embraces the world in grey; the sun that sets for you.. She help people in need, but in secrecy.. she use her ability to protect or to expose.. and if necessary, to punish..
You might notice that I often put green color around them, like in this drawing, it's because sunrise sets the flash of green.. Sunny has gone over the mirror's edge and over again..

pufffthh ahahaha..! You get all that?
I'm not much of a gamer or movie enthusiast, but when I actually play a game or watch a movie, I'll be totally into it.. and in popular games, or the ones I play like Assassin's Creed and Dishonored, the protagonist is always the one getting things done.. alone and stealthy, with very few trusted fellow.. so I intended to make Sunny is like that too.. eheheh..

So, now, about other people who feel something strange with Sunset..
I like the idea.. yea I like the dialogues too..! They think maybe Sunset is like someone with split personalities.. when she gets serious, things about to go down..!
Well, the second half of the dialogue, the flashback ones, that's a good one..! I'm going to modify it a bit just so it'll flow with the story..!
I'm going to use it when Sunny is about to leave the scene, with Sunset's arrival..! Sunny tells the trio it's time to sleep, and tells them a bedtime story, a sad one;

It's about 7 Princes who fell in love with a Princess that has been cursed into a horse.. the Princess was so greedy a witch cursed her into a horse, and only the love of a Prince can break the curse..
The 7 Princes are madly in love with the Princess, but the Princess then challenges them, she asks for many things like jewelries, the dragon's heart, the Arkenstone, and stuff.. And yet the 7 Princes are still able to fulfill the Princess' request.
The Princess is amazed.. thinking this is true love..! The curse then breaks, and from the ball of light emerges a beautiful princess, with sparkling light flowing rainbow hair-- (ah, in short, it's Human Celestia)..
"Congratulations, Princes.. you've broken the curse.. I am willing to be married with one of you.. Now, who amongst you is the richest..?" says the Princess.

"Naah..! We only want a pony!" Say the 7 Princes..
The Princess is in shock.. seeing the 7 Princes just walk away and leave her behind..!

The trio laugh, Scoot then imitates the Princess "I allow you to marry me.."
and Bloom then responses "Nope, me want pony..!" imitating the prince, turning away her face.. the trio then laugh again, harder..
"Okay, okay.. it's getting late, time to sleep.." Says Sunny, covering them with a blanket..
Sweetie Belle then says "Thanks for having us, Sunset.." Sunny pauses a bit..
"Well, the feeling is mutual.. thanks for thaking.." says Sunny as she turns off the light and closes the door..

As Sunny walks out the door, Sunset is just arrived there, walking in.. then in their very brief meeting, Sunny pokes Sunset's forehead, transcending the memories of her with the trio.. that way, Sunset will be able to follow and continue the adventure..! Sunset walks in through the door, and Sunny teleports away..

Now, about the Five..
Well, yeah, that fragment of Rainbow Dash story is still needs to be revised.. but I'll try to make it good enough and make sense.. eheheh.. I got inspired from Elise from Dan vs. series..
"Ever since I was a kid, nothing I've ever done has been good enough; straight A's, full scholarship, captain of every conceivable team the school had, everything! Never enough!"
-Elise venting about what she thinks of her parents to Dan

That is why, when Sunset become number 1 at everything, Dash felt challenged.. she then challenged Sunset in one-on-one soccer match, first goal win..
Sunset then did something unimaginable, she kicked the ball away from the goal post, but she kicked it in a way so that it rotates in a certain direction.. when the ball hit the ground, the rotational force of the ball applied and changed the ball's direction, into the goal post.. Dash was unaware of this, and the game was done in a flash.. Dash lost.. This is why she didn't make it to Applejack's, and AJ then hated Dash for this..

So anyway, I'm still struggle about Fluttershy though.. about her Vampiric self.. I need your help~..! Ahahaha..!

Anyway, you're thinking of The 5 fighting with Hakase Twi over Sunset.. yet here I'm thinking of how I'm going to make Hakase Twi's appearance.. maybe something like The 5 thought it was Princess Twi and act overly friendly to her..? Or, meet them in secret..? Ahaha..!

Heheh.. now that is a wall of text..
Well, then.. publish your fics..! Here or on fimfiction or anywhere so I can read it..! Ahahaha..!

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-04-24 17:27:38 +0000 UTC]

man… accidentally closed the tab I had the message written in and lost like three paragraphs of text @_@ memo to self… start writing in drafts so this doesn’t happen again. ahh… so bummed lol. oh well accidents happen these first few paragraphs are probably gonna be really rough. trying to remember what I wrote.


I like your little scene with sunset and rarity a lot more. sunset is just plain sweeter and cuter ^^ I do enjoy when the girls have a bit of conflict with each other. I think that one muffin pony from season 5 put it well “you’re different and disagree but your still friends?” and I think that sums up a lot of things that happen in the show. underneath it all they all are good friends and don’t really mean any harm and deep down you know they’re all good people but sometimes they have bad days. I mean an example I remember is when fluttershy becomes a model and rarity says “oh yes she’s a real star… I wish that star would burn out!” twilight gasps “you don’t really mean that do you?” rarity “no” you know rarity doesn’t really want anything bad to happen to her friend, she’s just not in a good place right now but you know she’s still a good person. I think that relates well to this little scene with sunset, the big sisters are feeling pretty bitter that the crusaders abandoned and replaced them with sunset shimmer. you know those big sisters are still the nice girls they’ve always been and that they don’t really hate sunset shimmer, they’re still friends, but they happen to be in a bad situation that makes them jealous of her. I kinda imagine that it would play out like you said, where the big sisters see the error of their ways and just feel silly realizing that they were jealous of one of their best friends who was taking care of their little sisters out of the goodness of her heart.


something that I forgot to say that I wanted to mention was how I kinda picture sunset/sunny. how they’re the same but opposite and how that kinda relates to their sun theme.


‘twilight’(as in that moment between night and day)

dawn(twilight before a sunrise)

dusk(twilight before a sunset)


so I imagined that sunset is the dawn and sunny is the dusk. so when you think of it this way, they are still both equally ‘twilight’ but they are totally opposite versions of ‘twilight’


“Sunset then goes back to Sunny, saying we're not who we are in the past, our past is not today, and tomorrow we will remember all what we've been through and learn from it..! And then only that day, Sunny is smiling, once.”


I gotta admit when I read that I thought that was really beautiful and sweet. I don’t know if you’re familiar with final fantasy vii and ffvii advent children but the main character cloud reminds me of sunny here. the guy is pretty distant and you can imagine not very emotional but he’s a decent person but at the end of advent children there’s a sweet little scene where he’s with these children and he honest to goodness smiles and it’s really subtle(honestly it’s really hard to miss but when you look there’s no denying it’s there) but the impact was huge. like you travel with this guy long enough you realize that him cracking a smile is kind of a big deal! haha and you know it’s a big deal when the background music playing during the scene is named ‘Cloud Smiles’ So when you did it with sunny here I thought the same thing, she never smiles so when she does IT’S KIND OF A BIG DEAL! and it’s pretty heartwarming


oh wow I’m not sure if you did it on purpose but how sunny watches over sunset totally sounds like something ezio said “We work in the dark, to serve the light. we are assassins. nothing is true, everything is permitted”


oh wow… did you come up with that bedtime story? that was really good o_o like… I think that’s one of the best short stories I’ve ever read. how the princess has a flaw to her, princes do these acts of love for the princess, princess thinks it’s true love but she still hasn’t really learned her lesson or changed and she still has that flaw(greed) saying she will marry the richest one, and then TWIST they don’t love her they love horse her? THAT is really funny! but at the same time really sad for the princess. I mean it’s super ironic but man how painful must it be that she thought that she found true love but in the end of it all she was totally alone? Also made me think “wait… this story is about celestia and sunny really knew celestia… was this based on real events?” O_o kinda mini mind blown lol. and oh wow sunny can use magic to give sunset her memories? that’s pretty cool ^^ that way they’re always in sync.


hehe yay I’d love to see more from that rainbow dash story, I think that one is really great. I wonder if it’s possible to work that story angle into why her element is loyalty, like maybe rainbows thinking is ‘I didn’t like the feeling that my parents didn’t have faith in my accomplishments, so I made sure that I didn’t make anyone else feel like that’ I like to think this kind of insecurity also explains things like how she can’t really stand losing and has to be the best ‘I lost… but I never lose’. hehe feel like a story like this needs some confrontation with the dash parents and that it was just a misunderstanding or something and that everyone is proud of rainbow and that she’s great how she is. huh… it’s kinda funny how you gave rainbow dash and made her interesting. to me, rainbow dash was my least favorite of the 6 because she seemed kinda two dimensional  but when you put it like this there really seems like there is a lot to her on the inside. lol just funny that I’d really like to see this rainbow dash story but if I were to see a rainbow dash story I’d just sigh be bored and look for another one. but yea! tying that into how sunset broke up the mane5 and how her relationship with AJ was ruined is really clever! I like that


hehe wouldn't it be cute if there was kind of a friendly rivalry between vampshy and twihakase in the love triangle between them and sunset? like during lunch they sit down together


sunset shimmer is sitting in the cafeteria as vampshy and twihakase enter from opposite sides of the cafe as they approach her and at the same time...:
vampshy & twihakase: Sunset Shimmer, I made a big lunch today and I thought we could share...
Sunset smiles sweetly: Oh wow really? that's great I'm starving
Shy and twi smile but in the corner of their eyes they're kinda staring down each other
shy opens her lunch and the food looks and smells good and cute
twi opens her lunch and the food looks and smells good too but it's arranged perfectly symmetrical and neat and tidy
shy offers a spoonful to sunset smiling: here sunset shimmer, eat this and you'll fight heart disease and it'll be good for your blood
twi offers her a spoonful: my lunch is perfectly formulated to give you all the essential vitamins and nutrients you need and all the calories you'll need to get through the school day and I made sure to cook them perfectly with the latest in molecular gastronomy techniques
sunset: ahaha... they both look good but you guys don't have to feed me...
but at this point the girls are so focused they just want to be the one to feed sunset their homemade lunch 

other girls: "they're doing it again..." "just ignore them, you don't want to get caught up in it"

oh you know this reminds me of something I wanted to say on an earlier message but for some reason I think I lost it. basically there was this cute little comic (that was made after equestria girls but before rainbow rocks so people didn’t know about human science twilight yet) where human twi transfers into canterlot high and is totally weirded out that everyone in the school knows her name and is friendly with her even though she’s never met any of them before. there was a really cute moment where flash appears and human twi is just freaking out on the inside (why is this hot guy talking to me!? what is going on!? @///@) lol.


you know I was actually thinking about twihakase and thought, wouldn’t it be interesting if twihakase was like pony twilight? a person who was focused on her studies and didn’t have time to make friends, so what if growing up twihakase was actually a loner? but she remembers sunset shimmer and thinks of her as her true one and only best friend. and make twi-hakase kinda possessive because she’s socially awkward


twi-hakase holds sunset’s hand firmly as she addresses the mane5

twi: sunset is MY best friend. you don’t need her as a friend when you 5 have each other.


(haha I’m totally going to have fun with innuendo and suggestive language here because twi hakase being socially awkward doesn’t know what’s she’s saying can have double meanings and has no sense of personal space so she’s getting REALLY close and leaning in more and more.)

Twi hakase (to sunset): A day hasn’t gone by where I haven’t thought about you hoping we could be together again (because… sunset was a really good lab assistant) and all those sleepless nights we spent alone just you and me… (probably building a robot)  and moments we shared together. hehe… never would have expected those reactions and results. we definitely have to experiment like that again... (probably doing chemistry)

Sunset: T-Twilight, what are you saying…!? *sunset is so flustered by what twi hakase is saying she’s practically on the verge of fainting*

Rainbow: Aren’t you being a little possessive of Sunset?

Twi hakase: Sunset Shimmer is the only girl for me! (...as a lab partner/assistant)

The mane5 are all extremely flustered and rainbow’s jaw just drops and is rendered speechless. the kids walking in the hall kinda freeze trying to figure out if what they heard was real or not.

Sunset is SUPER flustered now

Sunset: it’s not what it sounds like…!

AJ: whoa… nellie…

Fluttershyh… my…

Rarity: Forbidden… romance... *rarity squeeing in her romantic delusions*

Pinkie Pie: yay! Sunset/Twilight party! *balloons and confetti shoots out as a banner saying ‘SunLight Confirmed!’ rolls out*

Sunset: WHAT DOES ‘SUNLIGHT CONFIRMED!’ MEAN!? when did you even make that pinkie pie!?


haha I never really considered publishing my “stories” they’re more or less just a list of ideas that I thought would be cool or cute. Just a bunch of outlines and scenes. I don’t think any of them are even “complete” lol. I’m just funny like that because I honestly don’t know how to write stories xD I can write scenes and stuff but I don’t know how to write a story and connect them together. like in one I actually already know how this characters is born and how he dies and a bunch of in-between scenes about his life and some after his life but I wouldn’t know how to write that lol. I feel like if I had any artistic ability my style would probably be 4-koma comedy comics or really short episodic stories that are seemingly unrelated but there’s some background thing linking them all together ^^ hehe well if you’re really curious I can gather them up and send it to you through a message.


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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-04-25 02:01:01 +0000 UTC]

Ahahaha.. yeah that happens a lot, that is why sometime I write this in a notepad then paste it here..!

Yup, that's what I want to make Sunset is.. just honest, pure and innocent.. no ulterior motive..!
And yeah best friends do that a lot, they can openly talk about their likes and dislikes, about their differences to each other without hard feelings.. someone wrote an AC fic, setting in the Dutch colonial era in Java, and I really like the conclusion:

Bhinneka tunggal ika, tan hana dharma mangrva
A flawless unity in endless diversity, for there is no confusion in truth

So yes, the big sisters are just jealous inside, pretty much like Rarity in Sisterhoof Social, "Why do you have to be so good and make me look bad!" Ooh~ tsk-tsk.. how you will realize the importance of something when it's actually gone.. ahaha..!

Now, about the Sun girls.. yep.. the sundown and sunrise..!
Sunny smiles seeing how Sunset has grown and learned so much.. this scene happens in a beach villa, at descending dusk.. Sunset hugs her, as Sunny smiles and cries to sleep in Sunset's bosom.. and when the top of the sun touches the horizon, the green flash sets.. Sunny then disappears, leaving Sunset behind.. Sunset is now both Sunset Shimmer of Equestra and of Earth.. Thus, ends my story, Sunny S. Shimmer is no more..! But Sunset isn't alone.. she has friends, old and new.. of Equestria and of Earth..!

Yeah.. I know of Cloud Strife, I'm not a fan of Final Fantasy, but a friend dragged me to the cinema to watch Advent Children.. and when she realized that I really didn't follow the story, she explained it very thoroughly.. saying "you must also play the game to know the whole story!" heheh.. see how close we are? Ahahaha..!

So yes, some people here on dA realize that I never draw Sunny smiling.. Sunny still shows some expression, but she just doesn't smile.. Just seeing Sunset smiling brightly is enough for her.. the shadow that serves the light.. well, without dark, there will be no light..!
Ahaha yeah.. I told you I'm really into AC.. and some other games too.. ehehehe..!

And now about that bedtime story, that is just one of the stories I heard when I was a kid.. I don't really remember the real story, but I modify it like that because, you know, horse.. MLP.. ahahaha..! Let's call it "The Horse Princess and the 7 Princes of the Brony Kingdom" fhwahahaha..!
Well, if we try to connect it to Princess Celestia then.. as an immortal, Princess Celestia is of course forbidden to fall in love, or to be in a romantic relationship with anypony.. because they are mere mortals, and to prevent her from playing favorite..!

Actually there's another bedtime story I picked for another night with Sunny, but this time, a funny story:

"Wow, a funny story..! If yesterday's story was supposed to be sad story.. I wonder how funny this will be..!" says Scoot, looking forward to the story..
Sunny then starts telling the story.. "Okay.. so once upon a time there was a merchant.. riding a cart, bringing things to sell in the city.."
"It's Rarity..!" says Scoot
"Hmm.. okay we can work with that.." says Sunny
"Let's continue, on her way to the city, Rarity's cart suddenly broke..! Such misfortune.. she didn't know how to fix it, and going back to the village would take some time and she worried about leaving her cart unwatched..
Suddenly the hunter and the dog appeared.. the hunter was just going back after a day of successful hunt.."
"It's Applejack and Winona..!" says Scoot again..
"Hum.. yes we can work with that.. So, seeing the huntress Applejack, that famously known for her honesty and trustworthiness, Rarity then asked Applejack for a help to watch her cart.. and Applejack agreed..
Rarity then went back to get a new cart, while Applejack and her dog Winona kept watch..
Time passed, but the merchant had not yet returned and the huntress grew worried for her grandmother at her house.. so then, Applejack told Winona to watch the cart and she went home to check on her grandmother..
Finally Rarity the merchant returned, and she saw the dog on watch.. Feeling grateful, she gave the dog a reward for her master, a stone jewel, to carry in her mouth..
The dog ran all the way home and brought her master the stone jewel, happily.."
"Aww.. that's so cute.." Says Sweetie Belle
Apple Bloom, who's often being quiet, suddenly asks "and then what..?"
"You sure you want to hear the rest of the story..?" ask Sunny and Bloom replied with serious face ".. yes"
"Yeah, we want to hear the rest of it, you said it's a funny story but I haven't heard the funny part..!" says Scoot eagerly
"Very well then.. when the huntress saw the dog returned with a jewel in her mouth, the huntress flew into a rage. "I told you to watch the cart, but what did you do? You stole from it! That's unforgivable!" she said.
The huntress then grabbed her axe, swung it to the dog, and chopped the dog's head right in the middle."


Now, about Sunny's ability to use magic, that is something I have told you from the beginning of the Revelations..! Ahahaha.. how else would she tamper Sunset's memories, then..?
She also has ability to forfeit someone's mind and make them forget certain memory, but when Sunset confronts her how could her..? She trusts and loves Sunset wholeheartedly.. so instead of making Sunset forget, she just reveals everything..!

Now, about Dash..! Actually, I thought the same too.. because her loyalty is more like choosing a side.. ah well I tried..! Ahaha..!
And yes, I'm actually trying to make so that it shows why she is the Loyalty.. like maybe Dash didn't show up at AJ's because she felt she promised victory to her, she wouldn't want to betray AJ's expectation.. but because she was lost, she just couldn't bring herself to go there.. heheh..!
But if we really going to put the ending here, yeah I think misunderstanding case is good too, but how about that her father actually did want a boy to continue the family line.. but then after he realized how hard Dash was working for his pride, he finally accepted it and be fully proud of her..! Haaa~ I'm not good at this..!
Well, there's so much to tell about Dash.. have some faith in her, she's the Loyalty..! So let us make it interesting..! pffwahahahaha..!

And finally, VampireShy and TwiHakase fight over Sunset..!
Ahahah.. that is a very funny scene..! I love Sunset's nervous laugh.. saying they don't need to feed her.. and everyone else is, like, just stay out of it..! Maybe, after seeing how persistent they are, Sunset then running away and escape..! Nigeru~..!

And the two will be like..
VampireShy: "Stop scaring her..! Your lunch reeks of unhealthy chemical compound..!"
HakaseTwi: "You're the one who's scaring her..! What kind of person put raw liver in her lunchbox!"
And the boys be like.. Boy A: "The world has changed.. it used to be a bigger place.." Boy B: "No, the world stays the same.. just.. less in it.."
Ahahaha..! Nah, iJoke.. or not..?

Anyway, yeah, I too have read that doujin.. well.. not really interesting to me, though..
Sooo~..! Now you finally going all out, huh..? Playing with "innuedo and suggestive language".. ahahaha..!
But it is interesting, though.. I'm going to assume that the Five already know that this Twilight is not the Princess Twilight, and HakaseTwi who doesn't know the popular meaning of the words she is using, uses those misleading words..!
And after that statement from HakaseTwi, Fluttershy is like
"I.. I didn't know.. you.. you've done.." as her face is getting beet red..
HakaseTwi: "Heh heh.. yes..!"
"Nooo..!" Fluttershy then runs away
Sunset: "Waait..! Fluttershy, it's not like that..!

*The remaining Four then leave the area*

"Wait..! Don't leave me here..!"
"Well, sug, you just met your childhood friend.. sure you have some catching up to do.. we can wait..!"

Ahahaha..!
Well, anyway.. about the stories, isn't that basically what I'm doing..? My drawings seem like standalone, yet if you know the story you can connect them all..! If I can do it, so can you..!
Maybe something like, there's a picture, and then you write the description about it, what is this scene is all about.. and what the characters in it are talking..! For MLP, you can use vectors.. many artists have provide the vectors you can use freely..!

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-04-25 18:06:45 +0000 UTC]

hehe I don’t think I’ll ever get tired of Rarity’s silliness. that’s my pony right there lol


Oh wow! is that how you would conclude the ‘Tale of Two Sun-ies’? I think that’s a pretty cool idea though, the story starts with one sunset (the one we know from the movies), then this story reveals the other sunset’s(your original character sunny) existence, then this little story wraps up with sunset being the one and only sunset shimmer. Stories that go full circle like that, and end like they begin are charming and pleasing When it’s like this, I think another charm is that it flows and complements the actual official story. what I mean by that is, as far as we know, in the movies there’s only one sunset shimmer, but it’s plausible to believe that your story could be happening in the background while the events of the movie are going on because things that happen in your story don’t contradict the events of the movies. I’m kinda being super nerd but I like that Sunset is mentally (Human Sunset + Equestria Sunny) within a single sunset body. like this Sunset isn’t the human she used to be and she’s not sunny s. shimmer either and they’re not just sunset and sunny put together either. like how together as one sunset shimmer they’re greater than the sum of their parts. I feel like if this was my story I’d make it so this ‘complete’ sunset is the one we see in the ‘past is not today short’ and her phoenix-ness is a unique power thing that sunset gains when her dawn and dusk parts are united so like a phoenix she has (birth-death, death-rebirth, etc.). haha if you want to be dramatic or romantic about it you can say something like “the moment we crossed paths the human sunset shimmer and sunny s shimmer died but from the ashes rose Sunset ‘from dusk till dawn’ Shimmer” hahaha that sounds really cheesy and rough but I thought the idea was cute. hehe oh wow… now that ‘my past is not today’ song kinda sounds like it could be about sunset and sunny’s relationship. it’s kinda cute


Oh man! Advent Children is like the worst possible kind of movie to watch when you don’t know the story xD there’s just way too many characters and stories and junk going on lol.


I don’t think there’s anything wrong with sunny not smiling. that just makes it more meaningful when she actually does hehe I feel like if you ever did make a drawing with sunny smiling even a little people would probably have their minds blown. probably be like when Maud smiles at the end of that one pinkie pie episode. hehe that would be so cute! hmm… how would a scene like that go.


Sunny: I don’t really like friends...

*cracks smile*

...but I do love Sunset’s


ooo had an idea while watching that recent rainbow dash/tank episode and how you can relate it to that little rainbow story you had. like what if during that rainbow finding a pet episode, rainbow kinda makes a realization that she was acting just like how her parents looked at her and maybe that’s why she sympathizes and chooses tank instead of the eagle or whatever. “I know what it’s like to not be the first choice”


hahaha that’s pretty brilliant and it’s so brony too xD sounds like something a fan would do. “fluttershy is my waifu, eww gross human fluttershy? no pony fluttershy” that’s so goofy xD


Ahh that story sounds really familiar ^^ hahaha! I know I shouldn’t laugh because of that ending but I just found it so funny. Winona! NO! I’m just imagining what applebloom would do when she goes home. Kinda giving applejack the stare “how could you do that…” AJ “uhh what?” or AB overhears AJ yelling “dang nabbit! Winona!” then AB runs and hugs winona shielding her from AJ’s wrath with her body “Applejack no! have mercy on her! she’s just a poor dog!” AJ blinks “o...k?” or maybe AB looks out her window and sees applejack with an ax(to cut down a dead tree) and AB freaks out thinking the worst “NO! WINONA!” lol


hehe I kinda forgot that bit where sunny figured out how to use magic in the human world. ooo I wonder what you could do with her memory altering ability lol. that sounds kinda fun ^^ don’t really have any ideas. ahh maybe you can play with flash sentry lol. what if in reality and before equestria girls Flash Sentry was suspicious Sunset Shimmer and through his snooping and investigations he actually finds out that Sunset Shimmer is who she says she is and learns about the existence of Sunny and her little plot to use sunset as her double when the equestria people go looking for her and stuff. but sunny doesn’t allow this so she alters flash’s memories into thinking he was sunset’s boyfriend. or heck made flash into a sleeper agent, where subconsciously his mission is to support sunset, so he’s like a shadow member of the derpy/trixie/luna team and he’s not even aware of it. haha and maybe sunny ‘programs’ him so that if he senses any of sunny’s ‘enemies’ (people from equestria, ie pony twilight) and he becomes a distraction to them lol.


ooo i like your rainbow ending better, the way that sounds I imagine rainbow confronting her dad and asking him “just admit it! you always wanted a son but instead you got me!” dad says “it’s true, I did want that…” dash is silent but dad continues “...but I don’t regret having you and I couldn’t be prouder of everything that you’ve done” … or something like that lol. or heck there’s probably a million things you could do with it. maybe rainbow finds another father figure who accepts her for who she is and doesn’t care that she’s a girl because she’s great how she is. and maybe realizes that maybe her dad will never be proud of her but she shouldn’t let that make her think that she’s no good. hehe I kinda like that AJ moment. like what if rainbow has such a fear of disappointing others that she’d rather run away then confront them and endure their disappointment. like that’s why she ran away from home and moved to ponyville or with AJ “I’m so late! there’s no way I can meet up with applejack now. I’ll just tell her I got the dates confused…”


haha I really like how you expanded on the twi/shy sharing lunch with sunset scene. haha I feel like there’s so much fun to be had.


vampshy: raw liver is an excellent source of iron and iron is good for your blood because it’s a major component of hemoglobin that helps carry oxygen through your body…

*fluttershy kinda licks her fangs and says under her breath*

...and I like that iron-y flavor…

*then she returns to her normal smiling face and continues. sunset kinda blinked barely noticing that but just shrugged thinking she was seeing things*

and I made sure to make it low in saturated fats

...I’m trying to watch my figure...

(vampshy has ‘freaky knowledge of’ blood lol)

*sunset kinda has a sweatdrop and awkward smile*

sunset: ahaha… how… sweet and... thoughtful? thank you fluttershy it’s… delicious.

*twi-hakase straightens her glasses and clears her throat*

twi: the meal I’ve prepared has been specially formulated to be everything sunset shimmer’s body needs to maintain peak physical and mental condition and…

*pulls out a clipboard with photos and data*

...with this diet it perfectly maintains her weight, body fat percentages, and keeps her hair and skin looking their best

Sunset: why do you have my measurements!? how did you even get those!?

Twilight: hehe… *grins proudly as she adjusts her glasses* I’m so glad you asked, it’s a scientists pride to be able to gather any and all important data!

Sunset: Twilight you idiot! uwah!

*sunset runs away*

shy: look what you did! you scared her away!

twi: Me!? you scared her away with your occult blood ritual lunch!

shy: No! it was you and your super science lunch!

twi: succubus!

shy: frankenstein!


hehe not gonna lie making romantic comedy scenes with suggestive themes and innuendo is one of my favorite things xD i like messing with people by “Implying” things and be able to say things like “aww really? get your mind out of the gutter... you have a dirty mind…” even though I’m totally doing it on purpose lol. yea I think it’d be fun for the girls to eventually realize that twi-hakase isn’t princess twilight.


haha! Yes! your little fluttershy reaction is perfect! that really is the best ^^ soooo cute and funny! haha I’m starting to imagine what happens next but it kinda gets into that dangerous territory


sunset: hi fluttershy, what did you want to talk about that you couldn’t say in front of everyone?

vampshy: mou… Twilight may have a head start but I won’t lose to her!

sunset: f-fluttershy… what are you doing…?

*suggestive and easily misunderstandable situation. vampshy just needs her usual fix of blood and is going for sunset’s neck and to make it easier she removed her leather jacket and pulled the collar of her top a little…(hehe sounds a little too suggestive) but surprise! twi-hakase enters*

twi: sunset do you have the data ready…?

*sees the two in the suggestive situation*

twi-oh… I didn’t realize you two were so close… don’t let me interrupt…

sunset: twilight wait it’s not what it looks like! well it’s bad… but it’s not what you’re thinking!


rainbow, pinkie, AJ and rarity appear

“hey twilight, have any luck finding sun… set…”

girls see the scene too and another shocked reaction while rarity pulls out a notebook and quickly takes notes for her up and coming career as a romance novelist xD


I’ve actually considered that lol. my friend is an architect and he actually loaned me a wacom intuos tablet because he wasn’t using it and surprisingly he downloaded all of those mlp vectors and assets xD I think your pieces are pretty great as they are though like you said they can be viewed as standalone or if you want you can piece them together and make a story out of them so people who don’t know what they mean so they kinda make up their own stories.  


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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-04-26 03:11:48 +0000 UTC]

Yep.. and thus, the sisters case, is closed..! Sunset really is a trustworthy person, isn't she? Hahah..!

Now, about the Sun girls.. actually I didn't plan to end it like that but if that would be the utmost fun, then maybe I could work with that too..!
But yes..! Both Sunny and Sunset have experienced the good, the bad, and the unexpected.. Sunset is the Rising Phoenix and Sunny is the burning ash, so until Sunset is fully arisen Sunny will stand by her..
"Though I never see myself as a teacher to you, a teacher's job to make the student becoming more than them and continue the journey.. for journeys never end, but people do.. So I'm going to do what I can until you become more than I am.." says Sunny
"Well, you are more than a teacher to me..!" Sunset replies, with her cute face.. guh.. I can't get over her cuteness..! heheh..!

Well, I think Maud's smile moment is a bit rushed.. I was expecting her smile would be so many episodes later.. and only be seen by the audience..!
So, I will only make Sunny smiling at the very end of my EG drawings, that is when I finally decided not to draw EG anymore..!

Anyway, yeah, I actually am trying not to meddle too much with canon story.. that is why I often make Sunny leave the area right when Sunset is around, and interact with anyone as little as possible.. if and when Sunny is interacting with them, she's going to make it so that other party feels like they are interacting with Sunset..!
Well.. the reason I'm playing it safe is so that my so called fic or headcanon can only be destroyed if Hasbro somehow decided to bring out human Sunset Shimmer..!

Dash's story, yeah there's so much we can put into it, if we got the right material.. hahaha..!
Dash and AJ, despite voiced by same person, have similar personalities.. only Dash is the one with ambition to be the best.. so I think they would think and do quite similar..!

I haven't found any use of Flash.. I really don't know his role.. and what role I could put him in.. he's not a background character, but he's like "a secondary character who doesn't have much to talk or things to do but fun to look at.." (Heheh.. that's usually a girl's role in action movies..)
So if by any chance Flash is actually trying to investigate Sunset, like how he investigated Snip and Snail's "photo editing".. Sunny would just make him forget about her.. she'd take Flash to a quiet place, put her palm on his cheek in a soothing way, but then her hand glows light bluish green as she say "Forfeit Your Mind.." Pffhwahahahaha..!
Well, I actually have some thought about her memory tampering ability, if I should put some rule to make her not OP.. like, she needs to know the exact memory of her victim, and only then she can tamper it.. this means she can't touch a memory that is unknown to her.. or, she can just dig into her victim's memory using her ability.. like some form of hypnosis where the victim is forced to tell the truth..!

Now about the bedtime story, yeah when I say that it's a sad story, it'll sound funny but actually sad, and funny story being sound sad but funny..!
But Bloom.. by those bedtime stories she might realize that maybe Sunny, whom she thinks it's Sunset, is trying to tell her something..! It is always the quiet one that realizes things like this..!

----
And now, finally, the moment I've been waiting for.. the Twi/Shy scene with Sunset..!

Yeah, I like VampireShy who knows so much about blood because she consume it, and she doesn't want Sunset suffer blood lost..!
And Hakase Twi, who's able to not only collect every data but also to process them.. making diagnosis, hypothesis and all.. just like what a scientist do..
Boy A: "Huh? Sunset's running away..?"
Boy B: "It's privacy invasion, she must be upset.."

Now the second scene.. are you sure that's what happening? I thought Hakase Twi would be more like..
"Heeey! Fluttershy, what are you doing..! Stop!"
"Uh.. don't worry about it, Twi.. it's just the usual.." says Pinkie
"The usual!? I won't allow this!!"
"Wait.. does Pinkie know about Fluttershy..?" thinks Sunset..

Eheheh.. well, anyway..
Wow.. you got the tools, materials and all stuff you need.. but what you actually need now is a passion to do it..! Hahaha..!

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-04-26 16:05:14 +0000 UTC]

Hehe just need to make it official with Sunset writing a “Dear, Princess Twilight…” message in the book. haha that’s actually kinda cute xD I wonder what Sunset would write to princess twilight “You’ll never believe it but we found your counterpart! she looks just like you but she wears glasses and has her hair worn up… and Flash is all over her” Twi-hime: O_o “WHAT!?” Sunset: “Rarity? what are you doing with my book to twilight?” Rarity: “Oh nothing dear, just making sure this old book is in tip top condition” *mischievous smile*


I really like what you do with sunset and sunny, their duality is really elegant ^^ just how simple those two seem to be but their opposing parts fit together so well. or how no one ever sees them together or at the same time, it’s either one or the other and the only time you see them together is when they’re alone together. aww man… how would that be for a twist ending? that there never was two sunsets and it was just in sunset’s mind there was two when it was really just two sides of her personality. Or maybe in reality the pony sunset was caught and executed or hit the rainbow beam or got the sombra treatment and like sombra lost her body but her spirit remained and it traveled to the human world and possessed human sunset becoming a part of her personality and that would explain all her altered memories and how she can do magic and stuff. lol where did that all come from? haha. That story kinda sounds like kurama’s origins from yu yu hakusho though. demon fox got critically injured, went to human world and hid in pregnant woman to recuperate, was born in the human baby body. His plan was when he regained his strength he would abandon the woman and go back to doing his demon stuff but it didn’t go according to plan because he grew to love his human mother. hehe actually that doesn’t sound too far off from Sunny huh? hehe maybe if sunset absorbed sunny’s soul when they became one sunset shimmer, and we’ll say that you can’t have two souls in one body, then whenever sunset has a child of her own that child will have sunny’s soul and sunset will be so lovey-dovey with her little ‘ray of sunshine’ xD hahaha I don’t even know what I’m saying. I just went on a wild tangent and ran with it. haha I think that’s pretty adorable that not even you are immune to sunset’s cuteness. That reminds me of a couple things that I think would be adorable with sunset/sunny. One is from futurama where bender meets his parallel universe self and they were fighting but end up hugging “Oh I can’t stay mad at Me… I love Me!” lol just replace bender with sunset/sunny. and then this one jankrys00.deviantart.com/art/S… just imagine sunset “hey sunny, I noticed you’ve been in a bad mood lately so… hug?” sunny stone face. sunset “ahaha… never mind…” but sunny cannot resist the cuteness of sunset and must have sunset hugs! xD


Sunny: because she is my light and I am her shadow. The brighter she shines the bigger the shadow is cast


I think if maud was going to be in more episodes that would have been better. it’s too bad she is like every other not main character who only appears once despite being so popular lol. I thought maud’s smile scene was charming though. Twilight was the only one who saw it lol, makes me wonder if Pinkie Pie has even seen Maud’s smile. I mean she did say something like “are you kidding? I’ve never seen her more excited!” ooo that’s an idea for a tumblr comic. the silly adventures of Maud Pie and Photo Finish. hehe think that would be cute photo finish discovers maud and says she has ‘da magiks’ and they do a photo shoot and maud doesn’t do anything but she has that model look and it’s perfect. blah blah maud popular model but maud just wants to play with rocks.


hehe wow talk about ending on a climax huh? she will only smile when I my time drawing equestria girls is over. that’s a real one two combo. This is the end! but look at how pretty sunny’s smile is! ahh!


I think that’s a good thing personally, it’s interesting when people reinterpret characters personalities and actions or how a scene played out but when they kinda mess with story and stuff it turns into a real mess. like tweaking characters personalities(to the point where they do things the real character wouldn’t do), or rules of the world, or how the story goes or forcing awkward original characters in. as fun as that story may be for the fanfic writer to make, I don’t think they’d attract a lot of readers. I guess you could call it expanding on the universe rather than rebuilding it in your image.


I wouldn’t sweat the canon sunset shimmer too much. if they are going to do something with her, then it’s probably only going to happen in the movies and the movies don’t come out very often and stuff involving sunset shimmer will probably be a big deal. hehe what I mean is at the end of rainbow rocks they teased human twilight pretty hard and princess twilights counterpart is kind of a big deal. sunset shimmer who’s now really popular is a big deal and so her human counterpart would be kind of a big deal. I’m not saying they can’t pull out human sunset in the movies but I don’t think it would be the wisest thing to do. Sunset is one of their main selling points now, if they’re going to have more sunset stuff or human sunset then they’re probably going to tease and hype it up like crazy to get the fans to want to see their movies really bad.


hahaha look at me talking about writing and storytelling and marketing like I know anything. what do I know? lol. but I really don’t think you should worry about the canon “destroying” your headcanon/fic. it’s your story and no one can take that away from you. even if something new did come out all you have to do is incorporate that new information into your story. hehe I mean what if they did introduce a human sunset shimmer? how fun and confusing would it be if in your story suddenly there was event of ‘Appearance of a 3rd Sunset Shimmer!?’ haha I think that would be kinda wicked, in reality this is Alicorn Sunset Shimmer, Agent of Celestia, The Solar Soldier xD your malevolent celestia was mad that her student sunny was disobedient so she grabbed another sunset from another dimension and did the mind wipe and reprogram on her to be totally loyal and gave her powers to be her shield and tool. So Celestia is what Sunny could have been if she had gone through her plan of just using sunset and not growing to care about her.


haha I don’t know what’s with me, I’m just spouting a lot of craziness today


hehe yea Dash and AJ are fun to have together. they’re similar but so opposite… lol what’s that mean? like how they’re both competitive and want to prove they’re the best but dash’s style is to be brash while AJ is level headed. Dash gifted but lazy, while AJ is strong and hardworking. they’re also both the ‘not girly-girls’ hehe that might be interesting… if dash was driven to make her father proud that she forced herself to like guy things and be tough and awesome but secretly on the inside she likes girly stuff but would never admit it and is in denial. like anytime rarity wants to do girl stuff like going to the spa or dressing up rainbow secretly wants to do it but her pride won’t let her. hehe feel like that’d be great if rainbow ever confronted her dad while she was dressed up and made up and looking cute.


I gotta admit that guy characters in the show aren’t really necessary or useful lol. let’s just be honest, you barely see them and they do anything important xD I’m one of those few who doesn’t hate flash sentry but even I have to admit I’m not sure what you can do with him. he just makes things awkward lol.


hehe I kinda like that limit to sunny’s memory tampering “she can’t touch a memory that is unknown to her” THAT I can have a lot of fun with, especially with a character like sunny who is oblivious about things. like for example what if sunny used that on fluttershy and took out all her memories of them meeting but sunny who’s oblivious to “love and affection” left those in. so now you have a fluttershy who has strong feelings of “love and affection” towards Sunset Shimmer and she has absolutely no idea why! so to fluttershy’s maiden heart *doki doki* it’s… ‘love at first sight’ XD


hahaha that’s pretty funny how sunny’s idea of a funny or a sad bedtime story is a story that’s told in a sad or funny way rather than telling a story thats sad or funny. ooo what could sunny be trying to tell applebloom?


hehe I gotta admit I enjoyed that little lunch scene with twi/shy/set sunset’s reactions are really fun and cute especially when she’s interacting with characters like vampshy and twi-hakase who are odd but attached to sunset.


needs a friendship lesson ^^

“Dear princess twilight, sometimes your friends can get a little out of control and crazy but they do nice things for you like make you lunch or think about your health and well being because they care… maybe a little too much though. But I got to admit their cooking was pretty good.”


ahh gotta counter-balance sunset being weirded out by twi/shy. sunset probably goes to hang out with twi-hakase and realizes that the reason she’s so clingy to sunset is because she doesn’t have any other friends and she’s lonely. And with fluttershy she’s a really sweet girl who’s just really shy around others and then she feels bad for telling her “no wonder your only friends are stray animals!”


hehe I think your ending to the second scene is a lot better. I don’t think twi hakase would go into that scene without a fight. haha must resist urge to put twi “sunset you jerk!” and runs away! lol. haha I love that! that somehow pinkie might know about fluttershy. what could that mean? is it just pinkie being pinkie? or is there more to it than she lets on. Pinkie is actually the vampire leader and converted fluttershy! haha nah… or maybe by night pinkie is a vampire hunter… lol nah.... maybe all characters with pink hair are vampires! like cheerilee… or principal celestia. lol i don’t know xD


hehe maybe, got a lot of learning to do though lol. I mean editing programs, layers, facial expressions and poses? I don’t really know anything about that kind of thing xD but it might be fun could use a hobby and an outlet for expression. writing just seems so much easier but it’s hard to get people to read what you write lol.


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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-04-27 08:34:35 +0000 UTC]

Aah yes.. the friendship report.. haha..! This is Sunset's friendship report after disappearance of Sunny:
"Dear Princess Twilight, ever since I begin to question everything, I've been able to look beyond what I see..! A lot of things are 'taken for granted', but if we dare enough to question it, we will see what it actually is, what is it for, and why is it there..!" or something like that..! Fwahahaha..! Obeying your mentor without question..? That is a forced act..!

About the two Sun girls.. yeah, I do try to make them complement each other, not something like 'normal-Sunset' and 'dark-Sunset' kind of a thing.. heheh..
Now, if it was just split personalities, then there the story would be totally different.. Sunset is still Sunset whichever personality it "activates".. Celestia will only need to keep an eye on Sunset and worry nothing else..
Actually, I have thought about it.. y'know, I've played Shadow of Mordor, and I was thinking, maybe I can use this too..? Like, the Pony Sunset, or Sunny, never made it to the Earth, well, not in one piece.. her body was destroyed but her spirit remained, she became a wraith.. so she possessed Human Sunset, corrupted her mind and became bad.. But then, when she finally got blasted with Rainbow Beam (of Friendship Democratic party, hail the Friend..!), Sunny's spirit was eliminated.. just like Sombra.. Then everything ends there.. Sunny S. Shimmer is no more..!
Even if Sunny's spirit survived in Sunset's body, again, Celly would only need to keep eye on her alone, and she wouldn't be able to do anything..!

In my story, Sunset is a decoy, and she gets all the attention.. that way Sunny can roam free without being watched..

So, yes.. I'm going to use the ending I spontanously created back then.. at the green flash, Sunny transcends all her memory into Sunset, and then she disappears..! But yeah.. when Sunset had a daughter of her own, and her daughter resembles Sunny, she'd be so lovey-dovey with her.. and give her early training..!

Sunset's daughter: "Mom~.. I can't see the show..!"
Sunset: "Well then, up you go..!" *says Sunset as she carries her child*
Daughter: "But.. won't your arms get tired..?"
Sunset: "Hey I'm not as old as that..!"

Pffwhahaha..! You get that..? But yeah that nine tail demon fox tale sounds similar to what Sunny's facing..! Well, basically what Sunny had planned was to pass her "identity" to Sunset and run away.. but, yeah.. you know what happened..! Responsibility and conscience..!
Heheh.. if that happened wouldn't Sunny just hug Sunset without hesitation?

*at the backyard of cafe*
Sunset: *gives the blueprint to Sunny and explains her plan with the trio*
Sunny: "I'll do it.. Anyway, Fluttershy is going to need some help taking care of the animals, you're up to it..?"
Sunset: "Of course..! Leave it to me..!" *Sunset is about to leave*
             "Oh almost forgot.." *she then hugs Sunny*
             "Thanks, big sis..!" *Sunny pats Sunset's head,  Sunset then goes to the table where Fluttershy is taking her nap at..*

This is how Sunset innocently trips Sunny and makes Sunny fall for her..!

some scene I haven't drawn, and I don't know whether or not I'll draw this:
Fluttershy: "So.. how are you able to peek into people's dream..?"
Sunset: "Well.. it's like using all your senses at once.. to see sounds and hear shapes.. pretty much like your Sonar Voice..!"

Well, people adore a character for their struggles, for their dealings, how they're going to deal with things they aren't familiar with.. that way, the audience will have some "base image" of what the character is all about..!

So, about my "fic", you've seen how I try to to connect my fic with the canon story, so if Hasbro actually plans to make a story about Other Sunset Shimmer, then I of course will try to connect my story to it too..!

Well about Dash, I alrready have the "material" to use, the daddy issue that is.. haha.. and also, I'm still trying to develop Fluttershy's vampire origin.. and I still haven't come up with sub-plot for each main char.. I've been focusing to Sunset and Sunny too much..!
If Pinkie is actually a vampire, and! Fluttershy's vampire-maker.. wow.. I-.. I don't know what to do..!

About guys in EG and FiM.. well, for me, this series basically more like "Seinen" rather than "Shojo".. this series is about bunch of girls (in pony form) doing everyday things, so of course the audience would mostly be young males who are starting to show interest about opposite gender, the female tribe..
So the guys there would just be there, for the sake of being there.. ahaha..!

And yes, about Sunny's memory tampering ability, I think I'll make it set.. Sunny needs to know the exact memory before she can tamper it.. yea, I can use this for Twi Hakase-Sunset childhood relationship, that some memories are kept only between them and Sunny misses it..!

Well, I think I have told you this, but I'm trying to make Apple Bloom as the silent but deadly one, like her brother.. she doesn't talk too much but get many things done..! So, sometimes her thoughts are farther than the others..
So, based on the second story.. Bloom might think, "is that what happened to her?"  heheh..

Now for the Twi/Shy/Set.. yep, Sunset is just like that.. she's kind to everyone, and wiling to help anyone in need..!
This sometimes make both Shy and Twi sad.. They really like Sunset, but Sunset is kind to everyone, so they are afraid Sunset will become close to someone else.. but they like Sunset that's kind to everyone..! With this fact, they just don't know what to do..
And should Sunset know this, she'll also be extremely confused.. she can't choose..! And guess who she's going to ask for advice..?

Ahahaha.. well, anyway, if you need any help, you know where you need to go to..!

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-04-28 21:33:15 +0000 UTC]

huh... thinking of the friendship lesson letters makes me think, what if after sunny disappears, sunset writes in her diary but addresses them as "Dear Sunny" letters. 

hehe yea I realized not long after posting the comment that Sunny's spirit probably wouldn't survive the rainbow friendship beam. Oh well, I think it's for the best I don't see anything wrong with just keeping it how you had it. Sunny slipping into human world and finding and staying with human sunset. that's just fine  

maybe you can do a time skip to 10 years after high school and have an adult sunset that's growing to look like sunny with a daughter that has sunny's grumpy face around everyone but smiles for her mom. hehe. but I think having sunset with a daughter in the present is a little strange, it's a little forced and how would you even explain it? lol

You know, I know that's from something popular because I definitely remember that scene but I do not remember where it's from. I'm sure it's gonna be from something super obvious like naruto or something lol.

hahaha that is not fair. Sunset's cuteness is way too strong but it's always fun seeing her be cute and sunny lowering her defenses. hehe how would that be for a twist if sunset turned the tables and did the mind wipe on sunny?

ooo does fluttershy know that sunset has been peeking into her or other peoples dreams? and lol I was wondering why 'seeing sounds and hearing shapes' sounded so familiar and it's because I read about eagle vision not long ago. 'alicorn vision' lol she's descended from when the first alicorns bred with the other pony breeds and sunset shimmer has high concentrations of the alicorn dna. alicorns in the present day are like juno etc lol. hahaha oh man... imagine sunny giving sunset her memories and abilities and she learns it through the 'bleeding effect' xD haha that's not so hard to believe actually... that's how desmond picked up all his skills in a short time. yea.... mlp:fim x assassins creed whoo! alicorn amulet is a piece of eden. haha can keep going on lol.

haha how crazy would it be if pinkie really was a vampire and was the one who turned fluttershy? haha just totally the last one you'd suspect xD ooo or maybe this is a good time to introduce human chrysalis. hmm... how would you make human fluttershy a vampire... that's kinda tough. maybe it's kinda like equestria has equestrian magic and changlings have changling magic and somehow fluttershy gets some of that. lol how funny would that be though? fluttershy doesn't really feed on blood she's just like a changling where she feeds on love and that's why she feeds on sunset because there's love there. haha it's really hard coming up with stuff... as far as we know there is no magic in human world and if there is magic it's from some other world. maybe fluttershy is from some alternate equestria where everyone is a vampire bat pony and "human fluttershy" is actually vampire bat pony fluttershy and the real human fluttershy lives in another town or goes to another school. or heck... goes to twi-hakase's school and that's where one of the flags goes off seeing there's a second fluttershy lol.

ooo that's an interesting way to look at applebloom. I think it'd be pretty cool to have a quiet but sharp character where slowly but surely just by listening she's starting to realize that things aren't adding up and that sunset isn't who she thinks she is.

hehe you know what the twi/shy/set story needs? maybe two characters for sunset, a bully and a flirt. someone who's kind of a diamond tiara to sunset and then a flirt character, basically that character that does no wrong and is very affectionate but isn't trying to be romantic even though they'd probably be a good partner. Pinkie Pie could probably be that honestly lol. I don't really have examples but I'm sure you've seen these types before. when other character are too shy to make a move but want the bonding experience, but the kinda dumb 'flirt' does things without thinking. like say sunset can't go home and twi/shy are thinking really hard and trying to gather their courage to invite her to stay the night with them and pinkie will just say "ooo! ooo! sunset shimmer! you can stay with me!" 

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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-04-29 00:40:36 +0000 UTC]

Ahahaha.. wow that would be really really sweet..! I like that..! Yes..!

Yeah, that's what I thought too.. that is why instead of split personality like Flippy from Happy Tree Friends, I made it a "double"..! So much can be done that way..!

And yes, I'd rather make it near future time when Sunset has a child.. that way, everything is normal..!
And about that scene, well, you know me.. that is from ACIV:BF end credit scene, Edward and his son Haytham at the opera..!
Well, Sunset is cute just the way she is.. so there's no helping it..! And you got it right on the spot; Sunny lowers her defenses and becomes more relaxed around Sunset.. she didn't even see that hug from Sunset coming.. ahaha..!

Now, on that scene Sunset, as honest as she could be, says something like.. "What was your dream about, Fluttershy..? Us babysitting..?" ahahaha..!
And yeah, Eagle Vision..! To be aware of your surrounding.. becoming one with nature..! And yes, I've been crossing AC and EG way too much..! But I'm of course trying to do it carefully so it would still make sense in MLP way..!

"Some people use their brain, calculating and analyzing their surroundings, and some other just use their guts.. But you.. we're going to use both.."
- Sunny to Sunset, teaching about The Sense

Now, yeah it would be real crazy if Pinkie was a vampire.. too..! Ahahaha..!
Aaaahh...! I'm freaking out.. or freaking in, actually..! How am I going to put this all to my headcanon..?

I actually have some plan about Chryssie.. but I don't know if I'm going to use this or not:
She's as a "queen" of a major corporation "kingdom".. and she's wearing a typical traditional Asian princess outfit.. and she's also an excellent martial artist, her signature weapon is a heavy halberd with spearhead shaped like her horn in FiM.. I don't know why I have this thought, though..

"So.. are you up for a bit of a sport, Ms. Shimmer..?"
-Chryssie challenges Sunny to spar with her

Heheh.. well, anyway, yeah.. that's Apple Bloom.. my Bloom, that is..!

And.. that's actually a good idea..! but I wonder who should I apply that 'character' to.. I need someone who can be a good-er friend to Sunset, someone who's close to her, but without a romantic relationship desire.. Pinkie is a good choice, but she's just like that to everyone..!

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-04-29 12:55:28 +0000 UTC]

Oh yea! the scene from the opera. I totally remember seeing that scene! I knew it was from something obvious that I was interested in xD

aww... starting to think it'd be cute to see sunset with her little sunny baby "you are my sunshine, my little sunshine, you make me happy when skies are gray..." uwah... so adorable >///< I wonder if sunset would ever have any pictures of sunny. sunny doesn't seem the type to let herself be photographed "no evidence". I think it'd be nice though if sunset had a picture of her hugging sunny or something and then a picture of her holding her baby.

I know sunny pretty much transferred all her knowledge to sunset but did sunny put sunset through any kind of training or something? I don't know what it would be she'd be learning but training always seems to be fun to watch. especially in those senior/junior or master/apprentice relationships.

huh... sunny seems like the type to know what's going on and plans for everything, knowing her she'd probably know that she'll disappear and go to her trusted S-Team and tell them something like "My time is short" and arranges it where when she's gone they'll watch over sunset or tell sunset "If you ever find yourself in trouble just go to ______(insert name here) and they'll help you" I think that'd be cool, like imagine sunset is desperate and has nowhere else to go and she stops by trixie's house and get's the usual "Oh it's you... what brings you to the home of The Great and Powerful Trixie?" Sunset "I don't know why I'm here but I had nowhere else to go and someone told me that if I ever needed help I should come here" and sunset expecting to just be laughed at and sent away is surprised when trixie drops the haughty attitude and welcomes her in and takes care of her. Or I think it'd be cute if sunny told sunset if she ever needed help she should seek out derpy and a skeptical sunset just looks at her "derpy...? really?" imagining the odd girl who sits and talks with birds and sunny just looks at her dead serious and sunset gets the hint "derpy, got it" oh man... just had a funny thought, you know how I was kinda joking about the idea about vamp fluttershy could be the not human one? what if vice principal luna is actually the luna that was banished by celestia and she somehow wound up in the human world and the reason she works with sunny is because they were both banished by celestia and are on the run/in hiding from her. maybe the reason she was banished wasn't really because she was jealous and turned into nightmare moon but she discovered some secret like sunny did. well that's an idea lol.

aww I love those little fluttershy/sunset moments with their "kid". "uh... yea babysitting... let's go with that" hehe how cute would it be if inside fluttershy's notebook where she writes the rainboom songs she has lists of baby names and drawings? lol. man... how do you make a kid between those two and have it make sense? lol. maybe when sunny gave fluttershy her blood she took a dna sample from vampshy and combined it with their sunset dna and made a sun/shy baby? that's kind of out there lol. or maybe her vampire bite reacted weird with the unicorn pony phoenix magic dna. it's science... xD or the power of love or both or everything lol. I don't know how to make it work lol but I think it'd be a shame not to use the sunglow stuff somehow, it's really cute stuff. or heck sunny and sunglow can be twins @_@

your chrysalis sounds pretty intense think that'd be pretty wild for one of Sunny's secret missions. you know, toppling major corporations and stuff. we don't really see what sunny's capable of even though we know she's like a badass. think that'd be pretty neat. while everything is more or less normal high school life for sunset, sunny is going around and living the life of a video game protagonist doing raids on buildings and sneaking missions.

It is pretty tough coming up with a character isn't it? kinda burned through a bunch of them. I think pinkie pie as a character is nice because she treats everyone like her friend and doesn't really treat anyone romantically and she kinda loves everyone though. 

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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-04-30 01:38:28 +0000 UTC]

Eheheh.. yep.. expect me to refer more to AC scenes..! Even "Rising Phoenix" is too of AC related..!

Anyway, yeah..! That would be really cute..! "Sunny..! One so true, I love you..!"
Well, indeed it would be cute if Sunset does have a pic of her and Sunny hugging.. and actually I had a thought of it too, I have this sub-plot where Flutershy somehow finds the pic and becomes suspicious about Sunset.. but Sunny soon finds out about it and erases Shy's memory of her.. but I dropped it.. heheh..
But yeah.. of course, with Sunny being a wanted fugitive from other realm, she must stay in the shadow.. so she pretty much would keep herself from being captured, even by a camera..!
You might wonder, why wouldn't Sunny just change her hair, her face, her name.. become a totally new person and just move away.. well, she needed "Sunset" face to convince Sunset into participating in her plan first.. but, as you know, Sunset accidentally and innocently changed her path.. so, she decided to keep her "self" and teach Sunset what she knows..

About Sunny's knowledge, of course she didn't just give all what she knows to Sunset..!There are many things Sunny keeps to herself than just how to use magic.. as a unicorn.. in Equestria..!
You know how a Teacher, a Mentor, a Master or any titled person of the same level, wouldn't just teach everything to their students, right..? (Sunny learned this as that was how exactly Celestia did to her)
Why, you might ask..? It's to keep the students under their control.. Yes:

"It was never about power, it's always been about control.."
- François-Thomas Germain to Arno Dorian in the final battle

But, after Sunny becoming fond of Sunset, she starts teaching Sunset about 'supernatural' abilities, little by little.. and the Sense is one of them, as a way to learn the surroundings..!

Sunset's walking in the school hallway, and suddenly her -spider-.. I mean, Unicorn Sense catches someone's sneaking about.. like a ninjaaa~.. but as her Sense is still in development, she cannot tell who it is.. lets just call it "the ninja"..
The ninja's getting closer and closer towards Sunset.. and when the distance is close enough, the ninja quickly zooms and pounce..! But at the very last minute, Sunset squats down.. catches the ninja off guard..!
The ninja falls on the floor, and it turns out it's Pinkie Pie..!
"Aah..! P-Pinkie Pie, are you okay..?" Sunset then rushed towards her and helps her getting up
"Aww.. you just beat my surprise, I was going to hug-attack you..!" says Pinkie as she dusts herself off
"You should be more careful, Pinkie.. you could've hurt someone..!" says Sunset, worried about her friend.. but Pinkie then chops Sunset's forehead with her hand
"Like you're the one to talk..!"
"So.. to what do I owe the pleasure of your surprise..?" asks Sunset
"Come to the Sugarcube Corner this afternoon..! I'm throwing a party there special for you..!"
(Heheh.. how is that for a "dumb-flirt" Pinkie Pie..?)

Well.. Sunny's life would've been a lonely one and she'd still be on the run, had she not fallen for Sunset's kindness, honesty, loyalty, generosity, happiness and faith..! And Sunny also would still be planning on overthrowing Princess Celestia.. but Sunset changed all that.. just like you said; Sunset's cuteness is too strong, even Sunny is defeated.. ahahaha..!
So now, about Sunny's "retirement" plan.. yeah, I could use that..! But, again, the S-Team will keep supporting Sunset the Sunny way; from the dark; unseen, unheard, unnoticed..!
So if somehow Sunset is in trouble and everyone, even The Six, just stays away from her and this makes her down, the team will probably just "accidentally" give Sunset clues, or half-baked solutions, or:

Sunset is sitting in the bench of The Lonely Park, feeling depressed.. and then, Trixie approaches her.. and with her cheeks a bit red and her face turned away, she gives Sunset a box of chocolate
"Here.. take this.."
"Eh..? Wh-.. what is this..?" Sunset's a bit shocked
"It's.. w-well you know what it is..! I just made them too much..!" says Trixie
and after that, she runs away..

That little tsundere act just shows Sunset that she's not alone, that there are people who care for her.. and Trixie's just trying to cheer Sunset up, her way..!

And wow.. you really have some wild thinking there..! So, Vice Principal Luna is actually the banished Pony Luna..? So then, who is that -gold-white-.. I mean, black-blue pony princess in Equestria then..? How and when did V.P. Luna put her there? Ahahaha..!


And now for the SunShyne moment.. with their "kid" Sunglow.. hahah..!
Well, I did say that I quite like the idea that Fluttershy is secretly writing fics about her friends in her notebook.. and of course I'm sticking to my plan about not going to make Sunglow "real" and she just lives in Shy's dreams, or maybe fics..!
So no need to think about its possibilities..! It's just all in Shy's fic about her and Sunset having a child Sunglow..! Heheh.. things she realizes that cannot be done in real life, so she writes fics of them..
Oh wait.. isn't that what I've been doing here..?


Now for the Chrysalis.. again, I really don't know why I have a thought of her as Asian Emperor.. I'm even imagining her "castle" is a traditional Japanese castle and has green banners with kanji writings..
She's also a master of disguise.. duh~..! I don't know how she does it, but despite her physique, that as big and tall as Principal Celestia, she's still able to disguise as pretty much anyone, including Sunny who has a similar physique to V.P Luna, or even Bulk Bicept..!

Well anyway, what I have in mind is to make her quite fun in her own way.. She has a great leadership skills, unorthodox method of market analysis and business strategies, and.. well, pretty much what that High-expectation Asian Father wants.. ahaha..!
But, she just likes to fool around, and plays with people she meets (by play I of course mean sparring).. well, all shall love her and despair..

Sunny goes to see her of course to do some business.. corporations live in a system, so Sunny will need someone who's actually in the system, and Chryssie is the best choice there is..
But before Chryssie agree to do that, seeing Sunny has appearance of a combatant she then challenges Sunny in a one round death match to decide whether or not she will agree to do coop missions with Sunny..!

So anyway, I actually already have yet another sub-plot about how Sunny robs a bank using only a ballpoint pen.. but it's still in development..

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-04-30 04:45:10 +0000 UTC]

ooo you know... sunny not having any pictures of herself might work pretty well. Like what if sunset only had one picture of her and sunny together that she keeps hidden and safe with her and the reason the picture is so important to her is because it's the only picture she has of the important person sunny was. And/or something like "This is the only proof I have besides my memories that Sunny lived in this world. No one but me even knows she existed" hmm maybe like a picture in a locket and sunset is just really protective of the locket and doesn't let anyone touch it because... *sweet and flustered face* "it reminds me of someone very near and dear to my heart that I loved very much" and if you want you can have the girls have their red flags going up "who was this person and what kind of relationship did they have?" lol

The thought has crossed my mind about characters changing their identities, just seems kinda easy lol. like you said just change hair, clothes and name and become a different person. oh uh... my name... my name is... starlight... glimmer? haha. or heck what if you are a master of disguise like chrysalis or like pinkie pie who for some reason has a perfect fluttershy suit disguise xD 

and yay! sunny teaching sunset! mentor/student teacher/student relationships are fun especially with these two and their unique circumstances. "I know you can do it because I learned it and we're the same and I can teach you what I learned" also when they're learning from each other they get more time to bond together. think it'd be cute for sunny to not only teach her skills but her history and life in equestria or heck her time at celestia's school for gifted unicorns. that'd be kinda cool ^^

hehe I like that little scene between sunset and pinkie. haha now I want to see more interaction between those two. oh man... how funny would it be if this pinkie just does her EG thing where she has a "Lucky guess" but it's spot on. "You're learning from an alternate dimension parallel universe version of yourself who's learned all kinds of secret and crazy techniques and is teaching you how to sense ambient energy into a sixth magic sense that let's you see how things are connected and related and let's you sense things all around you without using your other senses" pinkie laughs "haha I'm just kidding"

Pinkie pounces, sunset dodges but gets her before she falls. pinkie just smiles and laughs
"Nice catch!"
"Pinkie Pie-! What were you doing sneaking up on me?"
Sunset helps her to her feet
"duh silly! not much of a surprise hug, if it isn't a surprise, duh!"
Pinkie just laughs playfully and snorts
"haha... pinkie pie... I think they call that a "regular hug""
"oh yea... silly me! take this "not-surprise Surprise Hug!""
Pinkie hugs sunset.
"yea I think this is just a 'regular hug'"
Sunset says chuckling a little bit but enjoying it as she returns the hug
"To what do I owe the pleasure Pinkie Pie?"
"weeeeelllll~ I was thinking if you weren't doing anything after school we could meet at sugar cube corner!"

I kinda imagine if pinkie pie was an anime character she'd be the type that all the characters have a crush on but isn't really thinking about being in a romantic relationship because they're so naive or innocent. 

or heck what if you really play with "Surprise Party" Pinkie Pie where she takes surprise parties really serious. hahaha oh man... it's actually making me laugh a lot at the thought. Like what if Sunset and Pinkie were in charge of throwing Fluttershy a surprise party and Pinkie was super serious about keeping the surprise a surprise and fluttershy gets really suspicious seeing sunset and pinkie sneaking around together

Like suddenly Pinkie yanks Sunset into an empty classroom or hallway to plan the surprise party and fluttershy is listening in but only hears bits and pieces. Things like:

"Pinkie! what are you-!?"
"Shh! Someone might find us" (and spoil the surprise)
"I finally got you all alone to myself!" (so we can plan for the party)
"Fluttershy can never know!" (she'll ruin the surprise!)
"We don't want her ruining our fun" (because planning parties is fun!)
"Did you bring the whipped cream?" (can never get enough whipped cream!)
"It's a secret!" 

Sunset just has a sweatdrop forming on her head "Pinkie... aren't you taking this too seriously"

"I've never been more serious about anything in my life. I'll make this a moment we'll never forget"

or something funny like "oops you got some whipped cream on your cheek, I'll get it~!" from where fluttershy is watching it looks like pinkie is lifting sunsets chin and leaning in "wh-wh-wh-wh-!?!?!?!?" but in reality pinkie just whipped it off and ate it? lol.

ooo I like how sunny would choose sunset's happiness over her bad blood with celestia. kinda reminds me of Mai from Avatar Last Airbender "I guess you just don't know people as much as you think you do. You miscalculated, I love [Sunset] more than I fear you"

hehe I like the idea of Sunset kinda having guardians in dark just kinda watching over her. haha how cute would it be if sunset needs a babysitter and can't find one and then trixie suddenly appears "You should be honored the great and powerful trixie is here to babysit for you, i-it's not like I want to babysit for you or anything-!" xD ahh tsundere trixie! hehe I think that's pretty sweet, how trixie would show she cares in her own weird way ^_^

haha yea I gotta admit I really went out there with that pony luna vice principal thing. I was trying to think of a way to connect sunny and vice principal luna but that sounds like too much of a stretch for her to be the pony luna. then you have to explain who the heck the luna equestria is @_@ yea nevermind lol. did like the idea of Sunny and Luna teaming up against their common enemy celestia though. hehe oh well. maybe in another story. 

hehe yea probably for the best that a love child between two girls doesn't really happen. that would be too hard to explain. speaking of fluttershy though, wouldn't it be funny if fluttershy kept returning to sunset despite sunny repeatedly doing memory alters on her till sunny just asks "why are you always following sunset?"

hehe I'm kinda curious, do you have an age range for your chrysalis? I remember someone doing this cute high school age chrysalis who was plotting schemes to capture the heart of a certain teacher by the name of mr shining armor who's dating the school counselor miss cadance lol. hehe your chrysalis seems like such a character.

chrys: Perfect timing, I was itching for a fight
Sunny: I didn't come here for a fight
Chrys: evidence to the contrary, half of my drones are unconscious because of you
Sunny: I'm here to hire you
Chrys: That's rich... but you have my attention. Well alright, I'll work for you on one condition. You face me in a match, if you win I'll take your job, if I win...

hehe I feel like there's so much of sunny's life that we don't see. it's only the small glimpse that sunset sees. 

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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-05-03 06:32:00 +0000 UTC]

Wow.. that's real schweetz.. yeah, Sunset is the only one Sunny can let her guard down around, so maybe Sunset managed to get one.. hahaha..! Maybe Sunny actually knows about this but she let it slide, because she also loves Sunset..! Ah well, Sunny has her reasons..

And yes, their student-teacher relationship would be quite exceptional, ahahah..!
Sunny offered to just directly give her knowledge to Sunset through da magicks, but Sunset refused..

"I learned that sometimes knowing too much can confuse us and we tend to make a hasty decision out of it.. you're obviously more experienced than me in this, so I prefer you to supervise me instead..! Tee-hee, I'm so lucky I have you..! *hug-attack* "
-Sunset to Sunny, showing her faith in Sunny's guidance


Now about Sunset and Pinkie, yep, I think they would make quite a combination.. dynamic duo or something..! Well, Sunset would make a perfect partner for anything.. she wouldn't be so dominating in her "bad" days if she wasn't so adaptable..! She's the Showdown King..!
I quite like Pinkie's craziness a bit.. guessing something that is not likely to happen, but turns out that actually is what's happening..! Maybe then on some occassion, Pinkie too runs into Sunny, and spout this crazy guess that the one before her is not Sunset but her alternate universe.. and then Sunny pull the same maneuver like she did to Fluttershy; change players when they're not looking..!

And that scene about Pinkie and Sunset in an empty classroom (make it a locker, to raise the tense more) is quite funny.. and Fluttershy is listening..? Ahahah, come on..!
So, would Fluttershy then order Snips and Snails to snoop around the Girls? Ahahaha..!

Well, how about; in another occassion, Sunset was in charge to plan a surprise birthday party for Pinkie.. but she then told everyone to just congratulate Pinkie normally and have fun with her.. no surprise party at all..! Yaay! Happy birthday, Pinkie Pie..!
Turned out, it was all a destraction from the real party..! Surprise..!


And now, about Sunset's guardians.. yep, not even Sunset knows about it.. maybe Sunny asked them not to do this anymore, now that Sunset is a capable one and can take care of her own.. but out of respect the S-Team still feel responsible in taking care for Sunset after Sunny's "departure"..!

And I think even if Fluttershy's being too clingy to Sunset, Sunny wouldn't mind, seeing Sunset is just a normal girl and they are just being friends to each other.. and Sunny would just enjoy her solitude and watch Sunset from the dark.. and then comes HakaseTwi.. ahahaha..!


About Chryssie, I just make her the same age as Celestia.. and to make her figuratively)(or even literally) "feed off love", I make her a businesswoman.. you know, nowadays you can put a price over anything and "Love" is one of them.. from valentine chocolates to diamond rings, wedding and family planning, anything that has "love" in it.. That is how Chryssie makes her business..!

So, Sunny enters Chrysalis' lair, and Chryssie's agents there are passing out over Sunny's intimidating aura..? Ahahaha.. that reminds me of something I like..!

"I have no intention to fight.." says Sunny calmly..
"Is that really something that comes out of the mouth of someone whose threatening aura in its full force..?" Chryssie sitting in her throne, smirks..

Anyway, yeah.. I'm still sketching all about Sunny's life.. weighing whether;
to make her bad as in real bad but still has her honor.. like the Assassins, they basically kill people, but with reason.. to kill one but save millions..
or to make her naively just, as to make her thinking how to make everyone happy together..
Aaahh I just don't know..!!

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-05-04 02:33:50 +0000 UTC]

hehe how cute would it be if sunset had matching lockets or something with a picture of the two of them made and gave one to sunny “now we match-! even though we’ve always looked the same ehehe~” can just imagine sunny looking at it and thinking [I can’t leave loose ends like this that reveal my existence…] but yea like you said seeing how happy sunset is having it she makes a once in a lifetime exception just this once and on the inside maybe she likes it too.


aww that’s pretty sweet having sunset make sunny teach her rather than just transfer all the knowledge over. hahaha you make sunset so adorable/cute/moe/little sister/kouhai. man i never really thought about it this way before but sunny can be pretty tsundere if it’s like this, like she fits well because she’s (cold/love). in the beginning she’s cold and doesn’t really care but as time goes on she defrosts and learns to love but between that she has those cold and love moments. almost imagining it’s like one of those persistent stray puppies following the loners characters. I’m sure I’ve said this but teacher/student is nice because you get so many opportunities to show them bonding and interacting and spending quality time with each other. think it’s also nice because it kinda ties sunny down, I imagine with her job she’s not always home so if she has to give sunset lessons it gives her a reason to come back every day. aww that’s actually kinda sad when I think about it, that sunny could tell sunset she’s going away to do some work in another country and is gone for a week or two where sunset is home alone lonely. So when sunny agrees to teach her every day after school she suddenly becomes really happy. maybe that would explain why sunset is so clingy and huggy and affectionate, she’s just lonely and misses sunny so much


I think pinkie pie would be a nice partner to sunset, she’s just a real sweetie. that moment at the beginning of rainbow rocks where everyone is kinda staring sunset shimmer down not wanting her help and pinkie just nonchalantly calls her over to join them not paying any mind to everyone else. characters like that are nice who just easily forgive others and pinkie is kinda silly with it where she talks about sunset’s history with a sense of humor “student body into army of zombies” lol. hehe that’d be something to see Pinkie vs Sunny lol.


haha I was actually thinking about doing that sunset/pinkie scene in the hallway. Now I wish I had set it in that dark hallway where sunset confronted twilight in the first movie or the one where she confronted the dazzlings. haha that’d actually be pretty funny to imagine… pinkie doing to sunset what sunset did to fluttershy in the hallway. that would be an idea though… snips and snails investigating sunset shimmer. not sure what to do with that but that could lead to interesting things. hehe I think that sunset party for pinkie would be pretty sweet, it kinda reminds me of party of one where pinkie get’s upset that they don’t want to go to her party but this time she’s more annoyed that even though she throws everyone super big awesome parties she doesn’t even think she’s going to get one but surprise! of course that’s not true because everyone loves pinkie pie lol. feel like anyone who could show sunset the power of friendship it would be pinkie or the one character so random that not even sunny knows how to deal with her lol.


hehe tell me more about S-team, I love the idea behind them. trixie, luna and derpy? those are just such fun characters. just throwing out ideas but I’m just kinda imagining how could it would be if sunny just confronts these human characters. like sunny went to celestia’s school for gifted unicorns so what if she did know pony trixie? or sunny was celestia’s student so she’d probably know princess luna. and maybe while in manehatten sunny met derpy just sitting in a park hanging out with pidgeons. so when sunny meets the human versions, she “reconnects” with them. maybe telling trixie “I know you’re gifted and talented and you just want people to acknowledge you” and to luna “I know how bitter you are that you’re constantly compared to and always play second fiddle to your sister” and to derpy says something like “I know you feel alienated and everyone looks and treats you different and that’s why you enjoy the company of birds who won’t judge and don’t care that you’re different.” so maybe sunny helps them all in some way or understands them and that’s why they’re loyal to sunny.


hehe hakase twi is really fun. haven’t really come up with much interaction between her and sunny I don’t think? maybe just have one of those moments where hakase twi comes over to sunsets house and when she doesn’t realize it sunny switches with sunset and sunny just nonchalantly corrects or solves a problem twi was having problems with. haha or maybe have the crusaders working on whatever project they’re doing and twi offers her services but the girls decline because they already have the smartest girl around helping them Sunset! (actually sunny). jealous twi would be kinda funny and cute “when did sunset become so smart and popular…?” or maybe do the thing with twi where life isn’t just about books/science. “go and make some friends” and the retort is “the source of this mysterious energy has nothing to do with making friends” even though it kinda is lol.


ooo I really like your idea for a human chrysalis… that’s actually pretty neat the idea that you have a character who “profits” off of love and friendship? hehe can kinda imagine a villian like that saying “love? everyone knows that love is measured in how big and expensive your gifts are. for the right price I sell ‘love’ to the highest bidder” or something like that. or maybe she’ll joke and mention something like “people nowadays are so simple! if you loved me you’d buy me this! or is this how much my love is worth to you?” hehe I really like your chrysalis! how she’s kinda facing down sunny but she’s not afraid and actually smirking. haha i’m just imagining that scene where they exude their aura and they crash and the weaker drone workers just pass out from the intensity.


ooo to be honest both of those sound good on sunny. she is a bit of a dark character living in the shadows and the dark side of the world where bad things happen and it’s just part of the job where you do bad things. but I do like the other one where she’s just trying to be a hero and is just trying to do what’s right. with that I feel it kinda puts an interesting spin on why she fled equestria and celestia. maybe she found out celestia was such the benevolent ruler everyone thought she was and/or celestia did something she couldn’t agree with so she rebelled. or I don’t know maybe trying to be a hero and fighting corruption in the human world just left her dejected but meeting sunset reminded her of how she used to be and inspires her to be good or relating to the first personality not such a cold blooded killer.


but that’s just what I think I’m actually more interested in what you want to do. this is your story afterall and I like your ideas. like that human chrysalis is sooo good! haha can totally picture her as a shady business woman. all I’m really doing is taking your ideas and running wild with them lol. like do you plan on having equestria celestia confronting sunny again or maybe expanding on what exactly their history is? or what it is sunny hopes to accomplish with this little crusade of hers? or maybe how her past might affect human sunset? or heck maybe have sunny stop and talk to princess twilight, how would that go? lol, just having random thoughts. I'm curious about your headcanon story and it feels like I'm just making fanfiction out of your headcanon xD

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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-05-05 00:51:09 +0000 UTC]

Hahah.. yeah, maybe Sunset got them from a special, once in a lifetime moment together.. hum, I'm thinking, Sunset asks Sunny out and takes her to an amusement park (maybe like, the Land of Discord) to have fun, just the two of them, for once..
In there, Sunset acts like the little sis and Sunny of course the big sis.. they both are having fun together (though of course no smile on Sunny's face), they ride a roller coaster, beat shooting game, and all other games.. but somehow, all the pics of them has Sunny's face blurred or covered by something (well, of course it's not a coincidence at all).. but then seeing Sunset a bit sad about it, she then let Sunset take a photo together with her..! Heheh.. a once in a lifetime exception..!


Yep.. Sunset is as cute as a kitten, an adorable little sister, and a capable companion..! Well, about Sunny.. if "tsundere" is a person who acts cold but at the same time also lovey-dovey.. does it look like Sunny is cold? or at least, towards Sunset? or, would there be a moment where Sunny act cold towards Sunset? I thought, Sunny's just keeping her cool, chill, and frosty.. but never cold, even from the very beginning.. even "now" when she's starting to care about Sunset, I don't think I've ever written Sunny being lovey-dovey.. because, she isn't like Adagio to Sonata in that comic you showed me before.. hum.. ah well, I'll think of something..!
And, yes, the teacher/student moment between the two is quite interesting..! Sunset still has her eagerness to learn new things and she finds Sunny's lessons quite exceptional; Da Magicks..! Sunset fully understand Sunny's circumstances; not only of her line of work but also that they can't be seen together around school, so yes Sunset treasures every brief meeting with her.. hahah..! Well, sure the Six are quite unique, but Sunny is the only one giving her a sisterly love..!

Anyway, yes, I think so too.. Pinkie is just so easygoing, even in Sunset's "bad" days, she didn't seem to be too bothered by Sunset's bossy act back then..
Pinkie doing what Sunset did to Fluttershy to her would be quite funny though..! Maybe they're talking about the surprise party and to Pinkie Sunset seems like she doesn't take it seriously, so Pinkie is like; "This is serious..!"
"I know..! Don't worry, Pinkie, I got it all planned..!"

Ahahah well, If anything, I think Fluttershy is the one who can be the special partner, and also the one showing power of friendship to Sunset.. because so far, she's the one who actually accept a pony/person for what they really are..
I mean, if Pinkie somehow knows about Sunny and learns that she doesn't smile, I bet Pinkie will try to make her smiling like she did to that Donkey.. heheh..

And, well.. in Party of One the Five were obviously staying away from Pinkie, and this of course would rise suspicion..!
But Sunset.. well, she just tells everyone to just congratulate Pinkie and celebrate her birthday normally.. but then, she begins to set her plan in motion..! Well, long story short, it'll be something like that '97 movie called The Game, where a wealthy guy was being ripped off, kidnapped and stranded in a strange land with nothing at all, almost got killed but painstakingly made it back to his home and planned a revenge.. turned out it was all a set up by his brother as a birthday present..!


Now, about the S-Team.. yeah I actually thinking like that too, Sunny has a charisma that makes everyone follows her.. Sunny is thorough about everything, in her training to recover her magic, she was also observing the school.. and she approached the three when they were hitting rock-bottom and helped them to make most of their talents.. Well, maybe it was in Sunny's "bad" days so she still had her ulterior motive..! But now that the three feel they owed her for what she's done to them; unlocking their full potential..!

About Hakase Twi, I'm thinking of making her find out about Sunny, through Sunset, through VampireShy.. After their shenanigans, the two (Shy and Twi) feel something's strange with Sunset.. Shy with her vampiric blood-smelling sense and Twi with her extremely accurate data of Sunset..
They think "Sometimes, I feel like Sunset changed physically".. Shy had this feeling after Sunset got scratched by a cat and smelled her blood, it smelled quite different..! And Twi, when Sunset (who's actually Sunny) was helping her, she simply realized that Sunset is a bit taller..!


Well, about Chrysalis, yeah that's about it.. one of her company branch is a mining industry, because most fanart drawings of her (bah, even IDW) are about her kingdom being inside a huge cave or under the ground.. so I thought to mesself "Might as well use that.." and that makes her Queen Under the Mountain.. pffh..! And yes, that scene is exactly what I have in mind.. hahah.. Chryssie isn't afraid because she too possess a certain Willpower like Sunny.. the Aura of the Emperor..! puhahaha..!
Sunny offers Chryssie to work with her, not for her.. her plan is to put some companies under Chryssie, and Chryssie doesn't really mind it..


Now, about Sunny.. well, one thing I set to stone is that she doesn't kill.. she prefers to just expose criminals and leave it to the hand of law enforcement, but still ripping them off.. ahahah..!
Sunny is neither a hero nor trying to be one.. she's a bandit, she rips off the criminals, takes their money and uses it for her own purposes.. one of them is to fund certain cafes that provide free cakes..

Well, along our conversation it is revealed that Sunny's fate was changed by Sunset..
At first, she still had the plan to overthrow Princess Celestia, to expose her.. I mean, a thousand year is a really long time for regular ponies, one can easily change history with that much time.. and Sunny find out a certain erased history, about how Celestia gained power and control over Equestria..
But, Sunset changed this.. Sunny grows fond of Sunset, and with this she's no longer care about Celestia and Equestria.. Equestria is "fine" they way it is now;
Celestia is the High Princess, the Princess of Princesses.. and there is no neutral party in Equestria, you're either with or against Her.. just do what She says and you'll be fine..
And Princess Twilight is the High Overseer who watches all over Equestria.. should you dare to deviate, or create a new cult that isn't right by Her, Twilight and her army will come and straighten you up..
Heheh.. you feel the oppression now..? It's just like Megatron's famous motto: Peace Through Tyranny.. and Celestia being a tyrant is only to keep the peace.. she's a "good" tyrant..!

So, the "Earth" is the only realm Celestia has no power over.. and Sunny is now just doing what she does best there.. and be a good sister for Sunset, to nurture her, to teach her lessons she won't find anywhere else, and to supervise her..
Still, Sunny can't be known by anyone near the school.. because the best way is to let Celestia thinks she has won like she always has.. hahah..!

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-05-06 02:37:09 +0000 UTC]

haha discord land? hahaha that sounds pretty great, imagining that the human world equivalent of discord is just an eccentric amusement park owner or a crazy walt disney lol. ooo sunny using some magic or super secret skill that makes her face unnoticable by photography or something? hehe or maybe just for sunset, sunset has a charm on her eyes or something where she can see sunny’s face in the blurry photos when no one else can


I kinda imagined sunny started off cold to sunset on the inside but made sunset think she was loving big sister companion through memory control or something. you know, back in the beginning when sunny just looked at sunset as a disposable tool. but as time went on she got less cold, started to care about her a little and eventually got to the point where sunny loved sunset. tsundere varies, that’s one way you can see it. tsundere can also be someone who looks cold on the inside but is actually loving on the inside. do you think sunny is like that? like when sunny and sunset are alone and no one is watching she openly shows her affection for sunset? or it can be that kinda stern mama bear kinda thing where they’re tough and serious but warm and tender to their baby cub lol


hehe that’s kinda cute how sunset treasures her time with sunny. kinda imagine one of the girls inviting sunset to hang out at rarity’s family’s shop or sugar cube corner or pinkies house or the apple farm or whatever but sunset has to decline because she’s… “meeting someone… tee hee…” lol and rarity just throws fuel on the fire by saying something like “well~ sunset is ‘seeing someone’ it’s nice to know our dear sunset shimmer is out there getting ‘friendly’ with others” and then little red flags from the sunset squad *_* haha. or… sunset gets a mysterious phone call (from sunny) and is just a giddy school girl about it “I can’t wait to see you…” and “I’ve been looking forward to this all day-!” and “...so what do you want to show me?” you know… really suggestive sounding stuff that sounds really awful out of context xD ooo and for more misunderstanding all the teaching made sunset tired so she spent the night at sunny’s house. haha and rarity just says something like “I noticed sunset never went home last night, that means whoever she met yesterday they spent the whole night together~!” “!!!” lol


haha I love the idea of ‘serious’ pinkie. the whole “parties are no picnic!” fluttershy “ooo I love a nice picnic party” pinkie looks serious at fluttershy lol. pinkie “this is serious!” sunset “...eep…” hehe oh wow… i wonder how that would even work… pinkie doing everything she can to throw sunny a party while sunny is doing everything she can to keep her identity a secret! hehe sunny is like super spy, magic assassin and her most dangerous enemy is pinkie pie! xD hehe I love pinkie pie. pinkie and sunset should have cute yellow/red/pink haired children. haha! then sunny needs to babysit! xD hehe not really but I feel like if any mlp girls had kids they’d all be ridiculously adorable


hehe that sounds so crazy but kinda funny. A party so surprising that not even surprise party master pinkie pie knew what to expect. or maybe that was all according to her plan and she’s actually Pinkie the Summer Soldier agent of celestia and it was all an elaborate ruse to get closer to sunset at all costs.


your description of the s-team reminds me a lot of the ezio during brotherhood, where he runs around rome and see’s people in trouble and helps them and they kinda swear allegiance to him as he takes them under his wing and teaches them skills. i kinda like how it’s like desmonds team. got the tech girl, the information guy and the girl undercover. hehe I really like it though, it’s an interesting team and I’m really curious what their relationships are. like derpy doesn’t seem like the ‘dirty work’ type and it’s kinda cute how sunny and derpy were together and derpy was just kinda having fun as sunny carried her through mud lol.


haha that sounds so funny to me. just twi hakase kinda looking at sunny “have you gotten taller?” or maybe twi brings her dog spike who seems to get along just fine with sunset but around sunny he gets all scared and doesn’t want to be anywhere near her. and yeeees vampireshy thirst for sunset blood! hehe that’s cute, I like that. ooo I kinda forgot, sunny met vampireshy and knew she was a vampire and gave her blood. you think fluttershy would ever bring that up when she was alone with sunset? something like “I wonder if I should ask if it’s ok to get some more…” but sunset doesn’t know what she’s talking about. or maybe she drinks sunsets blood and turns into demonshy! or phoenixshy! haha nah not really. or maybe if she doesn’t drink blood she gets weak or might die! but she doesn’t want to take blood from people or animals so that makes her really weak because she’s a kind vampire. hehe maybe twi and shy can put aside their differences and make fluttershy a serum so she doesn’t need to drink blood.


oh noes! what if chrysalis gets the dragon sickness and she hoards all the love! lol. hehe I like that sunny isn’t asking chrysalis to work under her but to work with her. if you do me this favor then I’ll have your company expand by absorbing these other companies. hehe all this aura talks makes me imagine pony sunny standing before celestia on her throne and their aura’s are clashing and royal guards are fainting. haha! that sounds so awesome. “The sun will always set”


I love that, she steals everything from the criminals and gives cakes to the people! xD peanut butter crackers and muffins for all! Take what can! and give nothing back! ‘bloody pirate’ ze criminals will say lol. or you know, setting up sunset with a trust fund.


hehe celestia the solar tyrant? she oppressed the land of equestria and became its sole ruler where her word is law. hehe I guess that’s better than being raised as cattle by the changlings or as slaves by king sombra or as magic food for tirek.


aww sunny is best big sister. ooo i’m curious, does sunny have any kinds of magic transformations? sunset kinda has a handful of them, demon, half-pony, phoenix. can’t help but imagine sunny as a devil may cry character. she seems very vergil, quiet, precise, kick butt. no romance for sunny? think that’d be kinda funny, more sunset/sunny misunderstanding. haha nah that doesn’t right. just… twi-hakase: *gasp* my brother!? xD


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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-05-06 14:38:19 +0000 UTC]

Yep, exactly..! I did tell you that my thought of Discord is that he just wants to have fun..! So yes, if he was in EG, I'm imagining he'd be some sort of amusement park owner, where strange things happen and you can do silly things..!
And yeah.. the skills of controlling the surroundings..!


About what Sunny is.. well, a tsundere, based on popular knowledge is being tsun and also dere, so Sunny is clearly not a tsun.. Someone even described her as a kuudere, that is kuu or cool and dere.. a person who maintains emotional control, but towards people they are close with they can be open about their feelings.. so, nope, that is more like my Octavia..!
Sunny behaves just the way she is, she cares about anyone her own way (only with more amount for Sunset), she doesn't have sides; all she has is a deep scar that prevents her from smiling and being happy..
Heheh.. I remember you saying Fluttershy being the one piercing Sunny's armor.. but turns out, Sunset is the one doing that..!

So, yeah.. this is not like Rainbow Dash maintaining her image, but when she's alone with Tank she can openly shows her affection to him, like secretly rubs their noses when no one is looking.. No, because Sunny isn't hiding anything, personality wise..! The only thing she hides is herself..!


Now, about Sunset "seeing someone", that is a quite a fun idea..! So, Sunset's been getting mysterious phone calls but she gets all excited every time it happens.. and I also like that Rarity is "fine" with it, and even go nuts with spinkles using those suggestive lines.. but being a "gentleman" Sunset is, she allows the "lady", Rarity that is, to maintain her fictions.. ahahaha..! Well, maybe then there will be a scene where the Five stalking Sunset to see who she's been hanging out with.. but both Sunset and Sunny detect this with their Sense, so along the way Sunny then tells Sunset to meet with Derpy instead..!
Actually I have this thought that when Sunny needs Sunset or vice versa, they contact not via telephone but via telepathy.. but I guess that's just.. too old fashioned..!


The serious Pinkie is indeed a good idea..! Pinkie is serious about throwing and attending parties, as serious as when someone breaks her Pinkie promise..!
I'm beginning to suspect that Pinkie actually has supernatural abilities.. seeing her cartoonic acts, like 4th wall breaking, or sudden appear at random places, or no matter how far Dash run Pinkie's still able to catch her up.. and not to mention the Pinkie Sense..!
Pinkie and Sunny.. heheh.. well, if it's only about escaping Pinkie's party, it's easy; she just needs to disappear for Sunset to appear, as both can do stealth quite fine.. The hard part is if somehow Pinkie learned about Sunny, and then she tries to cheer Sunny up..! Pinkie, the unstoppable force, meets Sunny, the immovable object..!


About S-Team, that is it exactly.. didn't I tell you to expect more AC reference..? heheh..! The difference is that Sunny didn't ask them to be Assassin (Well, duh..!) and to just use their skills for the best..
Well, anyway, like I said before, Sunny of course would need some assistance.. and like I also said before, those three are the best to keep secret..! Even if I'm using your scenario there, it shows that the three aren't being taken seriously.. and that is why they are so good for secret missions..!
Their relationships with Sunny aren't really special.. it's just the same as anyone else..! Sunny helps them when they need her, and they do the same..!


And, yeah.. in its development, Hakase Twi and VampireShy are the only ones who really close to Sunset.. so of course they would notice something different..!
And yes, like I said, Sunny giving her blood to VampireShy was a mistake on Sunny's part..! At some occasion, Sunset's hand gets scratched by a cat or a paper cut, and Shy just licks Sunset's hand like it's nothing.. she realizes that it tastes different, but she doesn't really mind it at first..!
Actually, I have a thought that VampireShy has been keeping herself in control by consuming animal blood, since buying blood from Red Cross would be too expensive.. but she'd of course rather starve than hurt those creatures..!
Also, yes, maybe Sunset was a bit busier than usual so she asked Sunny to assist Hakase Twi..!


Now, about my Chrysalis.. well, she won't get that dragon sickness (like Spike), because even the changeling her is not about greed.. they're just like moth looking for something to eat..!
And yes, after "having Sunny exposure" and the companies got shut for fraud, the employees need a new place to work.. Sunny then will use what she has confiscated from the criminals for the expenses and build a new branch under Chryssie's Empire..!
Yes, and one of the certain cafes that provide free cakes is the one where Sunny assist Fluttershy with her homework, a French cafe with my oc as the employee..! Another one is a tavern at the beach, managed by Windigo sisters, the women of the snow, the Windy Go! tavern.. Their slogan is "a place to chill, stay cool, and keep frosty", but they open on summers only..
Puffh-.. what was all that about?


Anyway yes, Celestia is a tyrant.. just like the Templar Order, She worked for the unity of all kingdom and lands..! And to make this happen all creatures in Equestria need some-One to refer to about what is right and wrong, and Celestia took this and became that some-One.. and thus, under Her rule peace was achieved..! I never said she was bad.. she's just hiding some crucial information about the past.. and she needed an obedient successor..!
And of course, those who in control would make their enemies look bad to justify their actions and gain support.. pretty much like the Cold War..!
Well, it's all just as simple as "it's nothing personal; it's just good business.." But enough politics..! I want to talk about Da Magicks..!


Well, about Sunny's magic, of course she has a transformation magic.. but for what? She doesn't need it..!
Pretty much her magic are common ones.. well, basically anything that Hime Twi could do, she can do it too.. but, she of course wouldn't be called dangerous if she hadn't mastered the forbidden ones..!
At first, Sunset needs a source of power to do magic, like that sesto elemento Crown.. but then it turned out, the Five were able to transform into their pony form using magic even without the presence of Hime Twi.. so this means, magic can be done in this Earth realm..
Some people cast magic through enchantment like spells.. and some others, like the Six and Sunset herself, use singing to do this.. But Sunny, she discovered a way to enable magic through physics, chemistry, and a certain something beyond those two; the superhuman strength..! No, I'm not talking about the Hulk, but about something else.. Sunny's word when she was talking down Hakase Twi is the key..!

Also, romance for Sunny.. well, no.. seeing her being quite rebellious, I don't think she'll ever let herself to be under someone else's control.. even under the name of Love..!
Of course I have thought about it too.. and planned for it..! But, well.. Sunny has to stay in character, even if I don't like it.. hahah..

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-05-07 03:37:30 +0000 UTC]

hehe i like that crazy discord human. for funsies i just want to see discordland is a major popular business that’s a big rival to chrysalis’ business and she can’t beat the crazy chaos corporation that discord runs lol.


ahh kuudere makes a lot of sense… she definitely looks and acts more kuudere than tsundere. sunny can’t really be tsundere because she never gets flustered. hehe fluttershy/sunny would be cute but I have to concede that sunset is the only person in Sunny’s heart. and all the love from the friends are focused on sunset which sunny seems just fine with and is happy with just sunset’s attention. haha sunny’s personality is just too hard to pin down, she’s pretty much a ghost because she’s so quiet. I probably asked this before but how does sunny act towards sunset? you kinda show that sunset is really affectionate and loving towards sunny giving her hugs and stuff. Does sunny ever show sunset any affection? hehe I mean we know sunny loves sunset but sunny doesn’t seem like the type to give people hugs. or actually… maybe I should also ask, does sunny really open up to sunset? like show her vulnerable side to sunset that she doesn’t show anyone else because she doesn’t trust anyone but with sunset ‘no secrets’!


hahaha I really enjoy the sunset getting mysterious calls stuff. just thought how fun it would be if Sunny actually said to sunset over the phone ‘I love you’ and sunset just goes nuts ‘I love you too!’ where everyone can hear and that just raises all kinds of red flags seeing sunset all happy because her beloved sister loves her. Now the mane 6 HAVE to know who this mysterious person is so they tail her and sunny senses she’s being followed so she calls on derpy to meet with sunset and the mane 6 react “Sunset is lovey dovey with Derpy!?” hehe and imagine a couple of the girls are confused and jealous “what does she have that I don’t have!?” lol. I don’t know how it’d happen but I think it’d be funny if sunset and sunny swapped and sunny was with derpy on the ‘date’ maybe derpy is clumsy and hurts her foot so sunny ends up carry derpy in her arms the whole way to the chagrin of some jealous girls lol and surprised that sunset is so strong. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with telepathy between those two ^^ I mean they are same person/ same soul/ same mind and they are always connected!


hehe I think serious pinkie is awesome because she’s a force of nature that can’t be stopped! like you said, she has all kinds of freaky powers! pinkie was fast enough to keep up with rainbow dash flying as fast as she could, running fast enough that she had that pink trail from running! hehe pinkie is too crazy and powerful. yes! unstoppable force is so pinkie! xD pinkie vs sunny! hehe knowing pinkie she’d somehow find a way to clone herself lol


ahh ok so that’s the deal between sunny and her s-team. I wonder what kind of help those three could need help from sunny with. hehe maybe derpy’s best pidgeon friend went to deliver a letter in the jungle and never came back! so sunny is on the case with derpy on her shoulder! lol.


iyahhh! fluttershy just licks blood from sunsets cut hand! “omnom~ if you don’t keep it clean it might get infected” thank you nurse vampireshy! lol. I wonder if sunny ever worries that fluttershy might get so thirsty for sun blood that she might attack sunset and suck her blood like crazy! maybe sunny will use her monies and buy a blood bank so fluttershy stays fed and doesn’t have to feed on animals or people. hehe but of course sunset tastes the best~!


whaaaaat!? that girl serving drinks to fluttershy and sunny is your oc? that’s awesome! I want to know more about your original character ^^ oh whaaaaat that windigo tavern sounds soooo good! ‘the Windy Go!’ that… is such a cute name! xD i love that. uwah… now i want to know more about these windigo girls! I want to know more about these businesses sunny is related to! hehe women of the snow sounds like yukki-onna. haha how wild would that be if the windigo’s from equestria went to human world and became snow women. man… sunset needs to get a part time job just to have an excuse to dress sunset as a maid or hostess at these places xD


hehe I’m not trying to pry but do you know what that crucial information Celestia is hiding is? is it some grand conspiracy? like the truth about cutie marks or something and how it unites all the pony races together! or maybe cutie marks is how celestia controls her subjects lol. hehe pirate references are always fun.


ooo that’s pretty cool to hear… that sunny can do whatever twi-hime can do and then more because she doesn’t have the limits. hehe that’s kinda cool, maybe she taps into that dark magic but she can control it. but ooo very interesting, so there was a time when sunny was human but didn’t have magic because no magic in human world until she discovered something to use as magic. that’s pretty cool ^^


yea… it seems out of character for her to have any romance. she doesn’t even have regular relationships. wouldn’t even know who to pair her up with. still… hehe how cute would it be if little sunset back in her hometown had a crush on twi-hakase’s big brother lol.


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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-05-07 20:04:55 +0000 UTC]

Ahahaha yeah I'm on the same mind.. and that is why Chryssie has different field..! That way, they can cooperate; Discord has his theme park, and Chryssie sells her product there..!


And about Sunny.. well, I wrote that Sunny is giving her everything to Sunset.. but as per Sunset's request, she's receiving it little by little through Sunny's training..
In its development, canon Sunset turned out to be the Rising Phoenix..! So to sync it with my headcanon, I made Sunny the Burning Ash..! As Sunny's flame burning out, Sunset's flame getting bigger..!

You actually have demonstrated how Sunny would behave; Apple Bloom hugged her and said "I love you, Sunset Shimmer!" and then Sunny stroked Bloom's head..!
She would do the same to Sunset, but the difference is she has certain feelings when she does that to Sunset..!
To put it simple; let's say someone asks me to sketch their OC, and I do it because I agree to do it.. but when I draw Sunny and Sunset, I do it because I love them..! The quality might be the same, but what I feel is different..!


And yep..! Sunset getting certain phone calls and she's excited when ever she receives it.. and the Five investigate it.. but Sunny and Sunset pull a maneuver and misdirect them..!
But you said "Mane 6".. does that mean Hime Twi is present at the time? Well, that would be quite interesting, though.. the more reason Sunny needs to stay hidden..!


Anyway, I have this wild thought about Pinkie when she tries to cheer Sunny up.. First, she used her SmileX3 power, but failed.. then she used her SmileHD power, Sunny got beaten as she just let Pinkie doing it to her, but still failed.. and then Pinkie used her Smile4K power, she tried to put a smile on Sunny's face with a knife, yet still failed.. finally, Pinkie cloned herself and used MultiSmile power on Sunny.. but Sunny just said "Adesso basta.." and used her ability to tamper Pinkie's memory.. making her into thinking that she used her power to Sunset, beating her senseless just to make her smile..!
Pinkie then felt guilty about this and went to Sunset to apologize.. but Sunset (after getting update by Sunny) just said "Oh, I'm fine..! Don't worry about it, you probably were just desperate..! Really, I'm okay..! You are forgiven..!" But Pinkie was still begging and crying.. so Sunset continued "Come on.. cheer up, Pinks..! It's not like you at all..! We need cheerful Pinkie to remind us to stay levelheaded so we can think clearly even in the saddest day!" Thus, on that day, Pinkie fell for Sunset..!
Pufffhhhahahaha..! But, of course, that was just an iJoke.. or "for funsies"..!


And about the S-Team.. yeah it's just like that, they're all helping each other..! And because none of the member of S-Team knows they are actually part of a team (Sunny isn't hiding it, she just doesn't tell them about it because no one's asking it.. pffh..!) Sunny has to carefully manage the missions she gives them so they won't cross path..!


Ahaha.. yeah, about Sunny's mistake of giving her blood to VampireShy.. well, this is my first plan for them; to make VampireShy wants more of Sunny's blood but unable to use force to get it, simply because Sunny is.. uhh.. more advanced in every way than her.. That way, Sunny has control over VampireShy..! But then, I changed me mind..!
I make Shy just looking for occasions, like that cat scratch or papercut, to suck Sunset's blood.. it tastes different (because it's not Sunny's), but still contains certain compound Shy needs to quench her thirst..!
(Uhh.. sometimes I question myself "am I really going to continue with Fluttershy as a vampire in my Universe..?" but, I also keep telling myself "If it could enrich it, why not..!")


And yes, that is my OC Mandarine Mélange.. I've been brainstorming about Sunny too much I haven't even been thinking about her.. so, sadly, I have nothing to tell you about my OC..!
Also, yep.. the windigos, the Snow Women (or maybe Ice Girls to make them sound "younger") from far far away land..! Making their business in summer..!
Well, basically Sunny's job is like Robin Hood's; she takes from the frauds, and gives to the needy.. so all the "businesses" she related to mostly anything related to giving to the needy.. heheh..! And the most fierce desire of human is appetite.. so the businesses, mostly but not limited to, are restaurants and cafes..!
But of course Sunny needs to be careful when doing that, or it'll make the people she helps being dependent on that..!


Well, you know how I am, planning everything before I do something.. so of course, yeah, I know what it is.. It is something Celestia had to do (not banning her sister to the moon, this is way longer before that) to make Equestria they way it is now; safe and peaceful..!


Now, about Sunny's magic in Earth realm.. I have written it that when she arrived to the Earth, she couldn't do any magic.. so she observed and found out that the creature here use physics and chemistry to do magic.. but after digging even deeper, she found the way to enable magic in this realm by combining all required "materials" (with physics and chemistry being included).. And then after that, she began to set her plan in motion..!
And yes.. no romantic relationship for Sunny.. that sadly has been set to the ancient stone.. hahaha..!

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-05-08 20:31:46 +0000 UTC]

aww that’s pretty cute. it kinda makes me imagine that sunny and sunset are opposite sides of an hourglass. as time goes on sunny’s sand is running out and it’s all going to sunset. I forgot if you said or not but is sunset aware that sunny is going to disappear? considering how close she is to sunny I’d imagine she’d be heartbroken at the news. something like “I don’t need to know the magic, I just want to stay with you forever!”


hehe that was a really nice example. it may look the same but what you can’t see is the feeling is different. sunny reminds me of maud again, can’t tell what she’s thinking or feeling looking at her. and the whole I don’t really like friendship… but I do love sunset’s. haha how funny would that be? Pinkie: “Sunset Shimmer, sometimes you act just like my sister Maud! you get this no smile look on your face, dress in dark uncute clothes and you look like you can punch boulders to dust! how suspicious… oooh, balloon!” hehe I think sunny’s cute in her own right, I kinda wonder what’s going on in that head of hers when Sunset hugs her. she’s stone faced on the outside but is she actually smiling on the inside and has warm fuzzy feelings? hehe I need some dream peeking powers to see what’s going on in that head of hers. ahh what’d also be cute is if it was sunset who applebloom was hugging and saying she loved her and sunset being the nice girl she is hugs her back “aww you’re so nice, I love you too applebloom” hahaha you know what? there could be a series where it’s just everyone hugging sunset shimmer and it’d be awesome xD everyone would hug sunset and she’d be happy and smily. everyone would hug sunny and she’d pat their heads but be standoff-ish. sunset would hug sunny and be really happy lovey dovey and sunny would crack the faintest of smiles.


when I said mane 6 I was thinking twi hakase but twi hime makes sense too. hehe maybe hime and hakase need to meet. because twi-hime needs to visit her fellow student of celestia sunset-senpai lol. and then fluttershy has someone else she can get her fix of unicorn blood from xD or maybe the two twi’s meet each other and they’re real nerds and twi hime starts reading human books. Shining armor: “Hey Twiley, want some cookies?” See’s twihime and twi hakase “mooooom…! twilight cloned herself!” lol. then twi hime sees human cadance “my sister-in-law!” Shining “wh-wha!?” Then cadance and the parents go nuts lol.


hahaha wow that pinkie vs sunny thing was pretty intense and that sure escalated quickly. Pinkie is gonna make you smile or kill you trying xD “Why so serious, Sunny? Let’s put a smile on that face!” and oh noes then pinkie thinks it was sunset she was fighting all along and feels guilty? how awful for her. hehe sunset’s gotta say something really cute “thanks to you I don’t have evil demon smiles” lol. and then yeees pinkie/sunset love xD pinkie becomes a real love rival but unlike the others she’s not shy about it. haha nah not really but that’d be funny. “Sunset and I are gonna have some ‘private’ parties just the two of us if you know what I mean” hahaha what am I even saying? but…


Pinkie: Big news everyone! Sunset Shimmer and I… are dating! oh yea!

everyone: “WHAT!?” “haha very funny pinkie pie, good one. you almost got me”

Sunset: It’s true everyone, I don’t know what it is… but I love a girl with pink hair

*imaginary blinking arrow pointing out the pink in vampshy’s and twi hakase’s hair*

“Oh come on!”


hehe how awkward that sunny is keeping the rest of the s-team a mystery between them. reminds me of a certain character who ‘tells no lies but has secrets’ what was human trixie’s special talent or skill that makes her useful to sunny again? thought it’d be kinda funny to have sunny be trixie’s mentor in magic but then I thought trixie doesn’t use magic lol.


haha I like the idea that vampshy looks for any opportunity to get blood from sunset. it’s awfully convenient that nurse fluttershy is always close by whenever sunset gets hurt lol. that school is running a blood drive and fluttershy is having sunset donate. man my memory is bad, does sunset know about fluttershy’s vampire nature? even though it’s awkward I feel like sunset would be nice enough to her good friend fluttershy to give her blood every once in a while because she asked. haha maybe then it’ll be funny because to pay her back fluttershy will make her “healthy” lunches with fruit and vegetables but low fat and no onions and garlic lol. had to go back and check in your gallery, vampshy takes the blood from sunny’s arm. hehe from the neck would be so much more suggestive. i wonder if fluttershy would be like those vampires with the hypnotic or magic eyes that make the victims hypnotised or erase memories. but it doesn’t work on sunny because “I know this trick” lol maybe vampshy gets thirst cravings and she “snacks” on her friends every once in a while and uses vampire stare to hypnotise them so they don’t remember. “om nom… mmm apple-y” “pinkie pie~ om nom… mmm candy” “so hungry… mmm taste like tacos” “ahh nice snack, tastes like muffins” “scootaloo~ mmm tastes like chicken” lol


I get what you’re saying though, it’s a little hard to explain fluttershy being a vampire in this more or less normal human world. maybe on one of sunny’s missions she found a lab experimenting on human/bats but one of them escaped and by chance sunny found the escaped experiment who turned out to be fluttershy. and maybe the arrangement is fluttershy will work for sunny and she’ll be paid in blood making fluttershy a mane 6 member of the s-team lol. aww that’d be kinda cute though… if vampshy is like in the iron will episode and says she’s a monster but sunny notices vampshy is too kind and would rather starve than feed on innocent animals or people. and gives her an ultimatem “waste away and starve to death or work for me and I’ll feed you. you’ll be my inside-man among sunset’s group of friends and you will watch over her closely” fluttershy agrees and sunny clears her memories of sunny but fluttershy remembers the mission to stay close to sunset and watch over and protect her but with her jumbled memories fluttershy thinks her urge to stay close to sunset and bite her neck is because of love xD Fluttershy will be Sunny’s “MANe” on the inside xD


hehe your oc is cute. she’s like a waitress at one of sunny’s funded businesses? looking at the picture with her in it and I’m kinda imagine she’s saying “The usual Miss Shimmer?” lol just imagining it’s one of those scenes in spy or detective movies where the character goes into a bar and talks to the bartender and it turns out the bartender is their informant. lol like sunny orders the “usual” and your oc serves her but unknown to everyone the napkin has a list of names or bank accounts.uwah… your windigos sound cool @_@ it sounds like they somehow popped up in human world and sunny found them and put them to work for her.


hehe I don’t know how it’d ever work but thought it would be funny if sunny’s research into using magic fell into equestria and there was a whole bunch of chaos as all ponies became capable of using magic not just unicorns causing a crazy power balance break. revolution lol


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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-05-09 03:26:01 +0000 UTC]

Heheh.. yeah, pretty much like that.. And no, Sunset doesn't know about it.. hahah..! Sunny's departure might be a bit silent..!

And yes..! But, the difference between Sunny and Maud, Sunny is not expressionless..! as you can see in my drawings, sometimes she has confused look on her face, or just stern like usual, or a bit surprised when Sweetie pushed her.. it's just; she doesn't smile..!
Anyway, yeah.. Sunset is a very fun companion to have.. and everyone wants to hug her.. well, she needs to be careful, then..! Ahaha..!

Well, I don't know if Hakase Twi would be in the group.. I mean, Hakase Twi looks more like pony Twi in the beginning; doing her research alone and all..
But yeah, it would be interesting if the two meet up, and become friends.. But I keep thinking Hakase Twi would just run some experiment on Hime Twi..!

Anyway, that bit about Pinkie and Sunny was just a passing wind in my mind.. I don't think I'll use it.. hahah..! What can you do as a date that cannot be done as a friend, anyway..!


Now, the S-Team.. well, yeah, but I think Sunny has a certain someone who knows about them and keeping them in check from the backstage.. the S-Team shadow leader, someone unknown to them..
Well, Trixie is quite an alchemist.. and as a magician, she of course has some tricks up her sleeves.. she's been seen using smoke bombs, who knows maybe those smoke bombs also have certain chemical compound and able to put anyone inhale it to sleep..!

Anyway, yes.. but, I don't know why.. I'd rather Sunset doesn't know about Shy's vampire condition..
Sunny forbade Shy to bite her in the neck, but she let Shy bit her arm.. I also don't know why..
And Shy is a stealth vampire bat type.. her saliva contains a chemical compound that works like an anesthetic, so her victim won't feel anything when she bites them..!
Well, about that, I'll think of something later.. about VampireShy origin..


About my OC, yeah, and she's the only waitress in that cafe..!
Hum, yeah maybe I can make her as another informant.. cafes, bars, shops are the place where people come and go.. maybe she can get people to talk about rumors and news.. and get some valuable information..!
My windigos are indeed cool, in fact, they are cold..! That's why they are happy to share their coolness in summer with people.. hahah..!


Heheh, yeah I'm sure it would.. if everyone suddenly able to use magic, and it creates chaos in Equestria.. well, maybe the Mother Nature then will take back all the magic and all ponies turns back to their regular selves.. they no longer control the weather, no longer control animal, and everything goes back when there is no magic at all..!
puffh ahaha.. what was all that??

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-05-09 23:45:20 +0000 UTC]

You wanna hear something kinda funny? I was looking through your gallery at the Sunny and Sunset pictures and realized they look a lot more alike than I realized. for some reason in my head I pictured sunny looking older, more mature and taller. basically like an adult. But after looking at the couple pictures with sunny and sunset together, besides a few inches of height and no smiling and more serious face, sunny and sunset look identical! lol. even though I still thought their relationship was sisterly I pictured it as mature adult big sister and naive kid little sister, almost like mother and daughter. But they really are like identical sisters. That reminds me of a couple of characters from Shuffle, actually… their circumstances aren’t all that different from Sunny/Sunset. One character actually had a twin sister who died before birth but somehow she had taken in her sisters soul into her body, So occasionally you see the other twin manifest in the girls body. Then another character who was cloned and her clone went out and played with some boy and the clone told the original about it and the clone died and the original met the boy in the future and there’s this stuff where she says that was her he met when they were kids but eventually reveals that it wasn’t actually her but the clone. thought it was pretty interesting, the girls had some identity crisis’s and doubting whether their memories or feelings were their own but they come to accept that though their other selves are gone they’re living on for their sake as well as their own. which sounds like something sunset herself may go through when sunny is gone too.


hehe I guess I’m only now starting to learn more about sunny, kinda forgot that despite being different sunny is still sunset shimmer and she’s not emotionless. which also makes me wonder what happened in her past that made her turn out like that. I mean, there was a time when she was just a regular girl like sunset.


hehe yea you’re right, twi hakase really is too much like twilight was on the first episode “fate of the world doesn’t depend on me making friends” might be kinda interesting to see though if the two twi’s ever did meet. hakase “she’s just like me but she has a bunch of friends who love her” haha but yea I remember seeing some images of mad scientist twi experimenting on her magic pony self lol.


yea I figured that would be a little too crazy having pinkie fight sunny and pull out all kinds of crazy powers and stuff lol. but it’s fun to think about what can you do in a date that you can’t do with a friend? pinkie would probably take them to sugar cube corner and take them out for drinks and feed them lunch, take them out for a good time, take them to a party and give them lots of attention. yea your right a date with pinkie is the same as being her friend lol but she loves everyone.


woooow there’s a mysterious leader/handler that kind of coordinates them? that’s crazy lol. who could that be…? trixie has tricks up her sleeves? so she’s more than meets the eye? but ooo never thought about it but that’d be cool. trixie can be like the bomb crafting assassin and makes bombs with smoke, sneezing, smelly, money, or fireworks bomb.


I don’t think there’s anything wrong with sunset not knowing about fluttershy’s secret vampire nature. I think that works well actually wouldn’t want to make it awkward between sunset and fluttershy and ruin their friendship because she’s a ‘monster’ hehe maybe sunny doesn’t want vampshy close to her neck because it’s a vital area and if it’s on her arm and shy goes nuts it’s on the arm she has her hidden blade on to defend herself with. oh wow so vampshy has a vampire bat type? that’s pretty cool, I’m sure fluttershy wouldn’t be happy knowing that she would hurt anyone even if she had to do it to survive. hehe well good luck with that vampshy origin, I’m curious what you could come up with. now I’m starting to question why fluttershy turned into a vampire bat pony, now I’m headcanoning that fluttershy grew up to a single pegasus mother and what her mother never told her was her father was a bat pony so she’s half pegasus/bat pony and when the vampire fruit bats / stare incident happened it just awakened the bat pony dna in her body and that’s how fluttershy became a vampire pony. whoo! best headcanon! lol. don’t know anything about fluttershy’s or rainbow’s parents so just fill in the blanks lol.


oh wow your oc is the only waitress at the cafe huh? so she must know and be friendly with everyone who frequents the place. so what’s the story with your oc? what did you make her for and what did you want her to do? she’s a baker pony and a human waitress, is this some character with a story you wanted to tell?


hehe your windigo’s sound fun, it’s kinda funny how they’re nice business running peeps lol. are these the same windigos that encase ponies in ice because they fight too much? lol. really reminds me of those yukki-onna snow women lol. they’re nice and all but make them mad and they’ll kill you. ugh lol.


mother nature taking over would be so wild lol. that’s something that crosses my mind pretty often. just because the pony’s thought it was so weird “animals take care of themselves” “plants grow on their own” “weather does whatever it wants” well I guess one thing would be all the weather pegasus would lose their jobs. or what if the moon and sun moved by themselves and they had need for the princesses anymore.


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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-05-10 01:22:22 +0000 UTC]

Eheheh.. well, yes, quite..! People think Sunny is a kind of mature onee-chan, but not really..! She's just thinking everything through, that is why she has that serious face on her.. and not to mention that certain thing that prevents her from smiling..! Both basically of the same soul, but they have different experience, also shaped by different realm..! Although, my backstory about Sunny is quite different than IDW's..!
And, that could be interesting too.. Sunset lives for the sake of both.. but then spirit of Sunny tells her to just (remember all the sadness and frustration, and) let it go..! Ahahaha..! Nah.. iJoke..!

Well I do have plan to make a story about the two Twi's meeting together.. but I'm still thinking about how to make it interesting, instead of just the two being surprised at their encounter.. that's quite.. uhh.. boring..

And yes..! Pinkie is just being Pinkie.. no mater who she's with..! But I think she'll give a special party if it's a first encounter..!

And.. well.. I was just thinking, if Sunny would have a First Mate, a right-hand.. someone to watch over the watchers.. eheheh..!
Also, yes..! Trixie is a magician nontheless..! Of course she would have some secrets..! And maybe that what Sunny taught her; the skills of crafting, using everything she can find..! Like Mc Gyver.. (pff hahahaha..! That is a name I'm sure you've heard before.. If you really are a baby boomer..!)

Yeah, about VampireShy and Sunset, I'm of the same thought.. Sunset would just be confused seeing Fluttershy licking and sucking her bleeding hand.. ahaha..! Well, aside of the hidden blades, Sunny also has Da Magick.. so if by any chance Shy would do any sudden move, she'd be ready..! And besides, Sunny persuaded Shy, saying that if she died Shy would never have a taste of her blood anymore that is very addictive to vampire.. heheh..!
With your ideas there, now I'm thinking that there are actually vampires out there, and Shy is one of them..! So yes.. her origin would be quite hard to make.. especially with me wanting it synced with canon..!

And yes, my OC is the only waitress at that cafe.. that little cafe officially only has one chef and one waitress..! I don't know, she likes it that way, my OC that is..!
Well, she just likes to bake.. and like I told you earlier, I haven't even made much development with her.. as my focus is to Sunny and Sunset.. eheheh..!

My windigos are litterally ice spirits, so they are as cold as ever..!
Basically, I view the windigos as peacemakers.. when the ponies are in fiery fight, the windigos will cast ice storm to cool their head off..! fwahaha..!
So, if you have someone hot headed or overheated, bring them to the Windy Go! tavern..! They will cool them off..!

Well, should Mother Nature take back everything, then the ponies might evolve to human (to take back control of nature).. pfff hahaha..!

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-05-10 06:01:00 +0000 UTC]

hehe it's funny, I have all the mlp comics on my phone but I still haven't even read one chapter yet lol. So I have no idea what's going in those comic stories. I forget I even have them, really should stop and read them lol. really want to read what the deal was with nightmare rarity and those other sunset shimmer stories oh and more chrysalis. I wouldn't sweat canon's too much, the comics are interesting but I don't think they're actually canon. haha the equestria girls movies are technically not canon either. 

hehe maybe after sunny disappears sunset can "change" her name to Sunset S. Shimmer. her middle name is 'Sunny' and she'll answer to both sunset and sunny. 

ooo are you planning to have some story involving the two twi's? wouldn't it be kinda fun if twi hakase appeared at the school and all her friends tried to approach her but she was really antisocial(like twi hime was in the beginning) and didn't want to play with them so her friends thought twi hime had changed. or something like that and sunset writes to twi hime asking what happened to her and twi hime confused decides to investigate and returns to human world and then meets twi hakase.

haha yea pinkie pie can use any excuse to have a party for. like that party for gilda or after birthday party, etc. 

oh wow I'm really curious who this second in command to sunny would be. haha how funny would it be if it was cadance? lol. or the very last one you'd expect. I was actually joking in my mind that it was snips or snails lol. ooo that's pretty cool that trixie is the crafter. kinda get it in your head that trixie isn't as powerful as twilight but she's creative with her powers. hehe yea I remember macguyver, I remember watching it when I was a kid but I don't remember any of it. 

hehe so what exactly is the deal with sunny's blood that makes fluttershy have a weird craving/preference for it? you said that her blood has a unique compound that only she has? or was it because she has real unicorn pony blood? lol. I don't think fluttershy would ever forgive herself if she hurt sunset or if she died. would sunny really hurt fluttershy though? 

speaking of syncing things with canon, I remember you mentioned you didn't really want to go into sunny or sunset's origins till they talk about her parents. hehe guess it's one of those mysteries huh? I was just thinking about the two suns talking to each other about their parents, maybe asking sunny if her parents in equestria are still around or maybe explain where sunset's parents are.

hehe your oc definitely needs to make more cameos and development, seems like a waste of such a cute character. hehe and oh wow actually making the windigo's actually make people not want to fight? that sounds like they're anti-sirens lol. so where are they when they're not selling cool drinks during the summer? still think it's pretty cute how they work at eating or drink establishments. 

zomg equestria ponies evolving into humans? xD hehe or you know the ponies learn to live like zecora. she lives in the everfree forest with the "crazy" weather, animals, trees lol. hmm haven't seen zecora in a while. I miss her, hope she comes back soon ^^

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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-05-11 07:32:37 +0000 UTC]

Well I've only read nightmare rarity, chrysalis, and Sunset's bg story, only for the sake of knowing.. didn't quite like how the story played out, it was like 'meh' for me.. heheh.. maybe I was expecting too much..

Anyway, our conversation is progressing rapidly.. I didn't even plan on ending Sunny's life at first, but well at least now I have a way if I ever have a plan to get rid of her..!

About the two Twi's.. well, I don't really know.. but I'm sure it would be interesting.. what I have in mind is to make Hakase Twi aware of her pony self existence through Sunny, but she restrains herself from encountering her, maybe to prevent a widespread panic.. Ah well, I'll think of something..

Sunny's second in command.. well, I don't even know who could that be as I haven't thought about it yet, but at least it has to be someone from Canterlot High..!
And Trixie.. yep, just like Macgyver, she can craft useful things using anything she can find..!

Yep, like I have told you, Sunny has unicorn blood.. the juiciest blood imbued with magic power..
And, one of Sunny's weaknesses is that she won't hurt anyone.. so if by any chance VampireShy attacked her, she'd just use her Vulcan nerve pinch, or a kind of paralyzing magic..!

About both Sunny and Sunset's origin, yes.. I once had a thought of making a story about Sunset lives in her parents' house.. and when Sunny tamper her mind, Sunset thinks that she's been pretending to be their daughter.. then Sunny approaches her, saying that she knows about her and her plan, and she's willing to help her.. but.. meh..
Well, the lack of presence of the parents is what makes Sunset sees Sunny as a mother..

And about my OC.. well, I don't have anymore ideas other than what I've told you so far.. she runs a cafe funded by Sunny, collects information for her in return.. and that's it..
About my Windigos, yes..! I mean, in the episode where they were introduced, it's seen that the Windigos wouldn't appear unless there was a fight between the ponies.. quite opposite to the sirens..! So when it's not summer and they're not selling drinks, my Windigos are at their sanctuary.. maybe like.. the Mountain of the Frozen Hearth..? Ahaha..!

Well, if their magic were taken and they evolve to humans.. yeah I'm sure some of the ponies might live and appreciate nature like Zecora does..

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-05-11 14:49:10 +0000 UTC]

haha I hear that's how most people feel about the story. 'underwhelmed' well at least the idea was interesting even though it wasn't as good as expected. I mean who doesn't like the idea of evil dark versions of their beloved characters? nightmare rarity does have a pretty awesome design though ^^ 

hehe well I've always just been having fun and throwing out ideas. this is your headcanon and story so it's all up to you how it goes, hehe at least you have some ideas to play around with and make it your own. ooo but I kinda like that sunny disappearing isn't set in stone. here I am hoping for a super happy perfect good end where sunset and sunny are happy worry free sisters that live regular peaceful human lives with their friends. ^^

hehe I'm sure after the 3rd equestria girls movie and mlp comics you'll probably have more ideas about how to use twi hakase. I mean what's that movie about again? friendship games? I wonder what twi hakase has to do with that. haha I see it also says there'll be animated shorts before the movie comes out, aww man, could you imagine a twi hakase dedicated short? that would be so good...! lol I want it! xD

haha man... the more I hear about it the more I want to know about the secret adventures of the S-team. it sounds like they live really interesting lives that no one ever sees. working in the shadows, pulling strings kind of things ^^

ahh so it is because sunny has unicorn blood that it's so special. now I want vampshy to bite and drink twihime's blood lol. hehe man despite how she looks and acts sunny is surprisingly nice, doesn't want to hurt people, stops bad corporations and helps the less fortunate. 

ooo for what it's worth I think that little sunny mind tampering with sunset into thinking she's not actually their daughter is pretty cool. hehe that also reminds me of something from fate/zero. guy uses some memory magic on this old couple into thinking he's their grandson. aww... actually think it'd be kinda cute if sunny did the memory charm on sunset and her parents so the parents thought sunny was their daughter too and that they actually had twin daughters and then used the memory charm on sunset into thinking she's not human and stuff. I wonder how sunny would feel when her human 'parents' would give her love and affection after being on her own for such a long time. kinda like what chibiusa does in sailor moon lol

hehe your oc needs some funsies story, like the cafe is the rival of sugar cube corner and they're always competing for business from the canterlot high kids. or maybe it's more of that clique-ish stuff, where the classier characters(octavia, trixie) go to the cafe and the more regular kids go to the corner. hehe maybe make pinkie your oc's friendly rival because pinkie works part time at the corner and wants them to succeed and they have bake offs or something lol. 

hehe windigos vs sirens, the snow ponies vs the sea ponies. any chance for some singing windigos? or windigo band lol. hehe when you mentioned mountain of the frozen hearth I thought about frozen ponies then pony ice sculptures so I thought how funny it'd be if in their down time they were ice sculpters lol. 

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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-05-12 01:42:21 +0000 UTC]

Yeah.. I like the idea, but didn't quite like how it was played.. I was kind of hoping it wouldn't be a Transformers or G.I. Joe kind of story, but I was wrong..
I guess IDW comics are just trying to satisfy the fans.. like how Derpy is seen wearing a mailmare uniform, and Luna wearing royal armor..

And yes, of course I wouldn't just take everything.. I'm the one who decides how my story plays out..!
*Sunny and Sunset are taking a break after their magic lessons at the Windy Go! tavern.. Sunny has finished passing down all the magic she knows on to Sunset*
"You have done well.. now you just need to be creative with your abilities, maybe you'll find something new.."
"Thanks, Sis..! So, what are you going to do now..?" asks Sunset to Sunny
"I don't know.. maybe I'm just going to keep doing what I've been doing.. not really sure what it is though.." says Sunny as she tries to adjust her glasses, but then realizes it's not there as Sunset is wearing them..
"pffh- were you adjusting your imaginary glasses, Sister..? That's cute..!"
*blushes* "Ungh.. n-no, I wasn't.. don't call me cute..!"

Well, I don't really know about EG 3, wasn't really impressed by EG 2 so I don't really look forward to it.. still, indeed whatever it'd be, it would give me more materials to use..!
And yes, I too would like some shorts, about each character.. might as well create a spin off of mlp:fim series..

About the S-Team.. well, maybe Sunny keep them from knowing that there is even a team because once Sunset is fully grown, they aren't needed anymore.. so instead of making a team and disband later, maybe just tell each their mission.. and after it accomplished, they're free to go with all they have achieved..
Or maybe they could be a syndicate.. keeping Sunny's "investment" in check.. hahah.. I don't know..!

Yeah, well, what could other reason be..? it's also the reason she can easily use magic, because she's a unicorn..!
Sunny is not bad to begin with.. she a vigilante, like Batman..! Batman doesn't kill, he rattles the cage and find evidence to use as leverage to expose bad people..!
But unlike Batman, Sunny doesn't have to be Sunset at day.. she has a double..! That is both advantage and disadvantage.. should someone from the underground mistake Sunset as Sunny, it'd be bad.. luckily the S-Team is around..! Ahahaha..!

Ahahaha.. if Sunny tampered the whole family's memories, that would be even more complicated family issue..! The parents think they have two daughters, and give both same amount of love and affection.. well, that would be quite a "something to lose" to Sunny..!

Well, I'm not sure if Sugarcube Corner would be a rival to Le Mélange cafe theater.. the cafe gives free cakes (but drinks are paid though), and is funded by Sunny, so its goal is not to earn profit..! I plan to locate this cafe quite far from Canterlot High.. so it wouldn't disturb anyone's business, like Sugarcube Corner or Joe's doughnut..!

About the windigos.. well, I don't really plan to make them sing.. I'm thinking their singing would just make a snow storm.. but maybe it could be interesting..!
I haven't really given much thought about them though.. they're just ice spirits, so they're as cold as the snow itself.. and being Ice Spirits they are, sculpting ice is as easy as sculpting with soft wax..!

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-05-15 06:25:22 +0000 UTC]

sorry for the late reply on this one. definitely didn't forget about it, just been pretty busy lately.

haven't read the comics yet myself but they seem pretty hit or miss and do different stories from what'd you'd expect from the show. I think they're pretty cool in that respect. like where's chrysalis been all this time and what's she been up to? or expanding a bit on sombra or starswirl or celestia's history. or telling us more about sunset shimmer's life after rainbow rocks. just gotta enjoy it for what it is  

hehe sunny and sunset's interactions really are the best. sunset's always a sweetie and sunny has a cute side! hehe how adorable to see her get flustered for once. hehe so what happened there? did sunset use a magic trick or skill to trick sunny's glasses off her face and onto hers? yea i really get enough of their sisterly love and bonding ^^

On the bright side, your fave Sunset Shimmer will be in EG3 and probably in the EG3 shorts as well hehe spinoff show would be nice, I feel like they could do a decent one. wouldn't know what they could make it about though lol. crusaders? equestria girls?

do you think sunny could ever grow to care about her s-team members? like they're the few around that sunny would trust with her secret identity so maybe even if she wouldn't openly admit it she seems them as maybe friends like her personal mane 3. now I'm curious how each of them view sunny. now I'm wondering how they would support sunny's operation ^^ I mean I know they're talented but they are just regular young ladies.

hehe I like what you're saying about sunny being a vigilante like batman but she doesn't have a secret identity. Think it's cool that sunset get's wrongly targeted but unknowingly she has a 'Sun Family' looking out for her.

hehe wouldn't that be fun though? maybe sunny gets a little too comfortable having parental love even though they're not exactly her own parents. how nice does that sound though? sunny having a nice little family home life with a loving sister and parents.

hehe oh wow donut joe is around too? haha that's pretty cool. Le Mélange cafe theater huh? sounds like a nice place so who's this baker/drink maker who works at this cafe?

hehe your windigo's sound fun and cute. from how you describe them they kinda sound like the opposite of furies, that trio of beings that are invisible but when they're around they cause people to fight. think that'd be an interesting way to look at it where the windigo's are kind ghostly and when they see people fighting they kinda suggest they be kind to each other.

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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-05-15 10:35:54 +0000 UTC]

Hahah, what..? No rush, dude..! I haven't even able to draw this week either..! Even right now this is what I'm able to sketch so far..

Anyway, yeah.. though, I haven't really found one that I can really enjoy yet..

Well, the scene there was to show that Sunny is too a "human" being.. you know, most person with glasses has this habit to adjust their glasses..!
So on that scene, maybe Sunset was just trying to wear them for a bit and Sunny let her.. and with conversation like that, about what she's going to do next, it made Sunny drown in her thoughts and unconsciously do that thing with the glasses..!

About EG3, well I don't want to be excited and end up disappointed.. like I said, I enjoy a good story, so I won't be happy only because Sunset Shimmer is in the movie or because it's pony related..
Each character, especially the Six, has their own "history and legacy".. so what matters to me is how the movie is going to put all the different eye lines of each char and not to make certain char get outshone by the other..!

Now about Sunny towards her S-Team, I think so.. yeah, because Sunset has completely changed her mind, so of course she can't just leave them behind.. and yes, I've been thinking of the reason why they want to cooperate with Sunny and stay loyal, and what exactly are they doing.. I got nothing but cliches so far, I need to think up a better story.. that's why I haven't publish any of this..!

And yes, that is how it is.. that's why Sunny needs a perfect stealth, shadow is unidentified but can still be seen; she needs to be a ghost that comes undetected, harms no one, and leaves untraced..! But yeah, I have prepared a sub plot where Sunset is targeted and the S-Team will do a perfect maneuver to get her off the list..

Well, I agree Sunny might get comfortable by it.. but it would make her plan vulnerable; Sunny cannot be known by other people..! Sunset needs to know about Sunny so when she thinks she's a pony of Equestria, she has a proof; Sunny, whom she thinks is the human version of her..!
But now that everything has changed, maybe Sunset will introduce Sunny to her parents and they are happy to have another member in the family..!

And yeah, Donut Joe is of course around..! He's the real business rival to the Sugarcube Corner..!
Yep, the Le Mélange cafe theater.. the cafe sometime hold a performance for the patrons to enjoy..! And I'm planning to make the Dazzling to perform there.. as soon as I have a good story about them..
Well, the crew of the cafe are this unknown baker who spends his shift in the kitchen, and my OC the waitress of the cafe and also helps with baking..!

Well, my windigos are based of how I view them after watching the episode, I already told you about that though.. so yeah that's just what and how they are..!

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-05-17 05:34:37 +0000 UTC]

wow really? not even those equestria girls comics that are focused on sunset shimmer?

hehe I often forget that underneath all her powers and her underworld work sunny is still just a young girl. haha yea I get the habit of adjust glasses, in fact! when not wearing them I forget they're not there and try to adjust them lol. ooo just thought of something, how's sunny's eyesight? she doesn't wear glasses all the time so not that bad? oh noes~! sunny can't disappear, not if sunset gives her a hug and says they'll be together forever lol.

hehe I get what you're saying, I honestly don't expect great stories from movies like this but if their fun then I can leave happy. kinda helps going into it with the mindset that story is secondary and it's pretty much about characters doing fun and crazy things. basically like every super hero movie ever. those mlp movies feel more like a long episode, introduce some background characters, make some trouble and have the 6 solve the problem. and you never see the background characters again. 

I'm kinda curious how sunny feels about her sunny team. sunny seems like the loner type but i wonder if she gets lonely. like those people who are always cautious and distant because they don't know who to trust or may betray them. but you know no matter how much of a loner someone is everyone needs companionship. that's why I wonder if deep down sunny does have strong feelings for them considering she doesn't have many allies she can trust or can rely on. so it's kinda like sunny doesn't have many allies but the few she has are important to her. hehe i mean what if you kinda spinned it where sunny has faith in her team because she believes in them enough to entrust her precious sunset's safety to them when she's gone. or something like that

hehe that sub-plot of yours where sunset is being targeted but the s-team perfectly take care of her sounds really cool! hehe it's kinda fun to imagine the s-team being sunset's guardians while sunny goes to the people who are targeting sunset directly surprising them since they thought they were already tracking her and sunny kicks butt because they targeted her precious sunset lol. 

hehe I know sunny is the 'all about the mission' types but there are times i wish she would show more of her soft side. like if sunny really did join sunset's family and was actually happy. 

since the cafe name is french maybe your baker should be gustav the griffon! lol. ooo open performance huh? that's pretty fun. it'd be kinda cute if twilight could play piano like in friendship through the age or octavia plays some relaxing music.

now i'm kinda curious, do your windigo's have any individual personalities or heck have you decided on genders for them?

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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-05-17 15:39:06 +0000 UTC]

Well, I wrote it in the same comment box; I won't be happy just because Sunset Shimmer in it.. let alone pony related..! Eheheh..!

And yes..! Wow, didn't know you're actually wearing glasses.. no wonder you know it very much..! Well, about Sunny's eyesight, it's quite normal.. those are just reading glasses.!
Also.. well, I don't know.. maybe Sunny just feels that her time is up, now that Sunset is there to continue the journey.. ah well, maybe Sunset can also change Sunny's fate..!

Anyway, about stories.. if story is secondary, that's what I'd expect from the series.. any series..! But for a movie.. well..
Ah.. well, maybe you're right.. maybe this is a kind of superhero movie where the Six are there to save the day.. and maybe that is also the reason why I-.. nah.. nothing..

Now, about Sunny's feelings towards the S-Team.. well, obviously she trusts them..! One of the rarest things you can't buy is trust, and Sunny trusts the team enough to keep an eye on Sunset while she's away..!
Sunny is a loner because.. well, at first her plan demanded it, and now it's her line of work that demands it..! But when she's not on the mission, she spends her time with Sunset or each member of S-Team, passing down the knowledge..!

And, well, what I have in mind is S-Team are going to indirectly give some kind of alibi to the hitman and those who hired him, so they take Sunset off the list.. Because if they send a hitman and he never comes back, it'll prove that Sunset actually has something to do with it.. And I bet they're going to send off another hitman after her..!
Well, that or Sunny would just erase their memories with her magic powers, like that neuralyzer stick..! Ahahah..

Heheh.. well, I too wish I could put her in front of the warming hearth with her 'family'.. maybe, if she decides not to disappear.. ahahah..!

Now, about the cafe.. well, Mandy herself is French.. so yeah, maybe Gustav would be a great crew of the cafe..!
And yes, open performance..! I'd definitely get Octavia to play some relaxing jazz music there..!

About my windigos.. well so far, yes, I made 'windigo' to be, like, some kind of a race.. so of course there's male and female, and each of them have some unique characteristic and personality of their own.. and especially for my two windigos, they're sisters, like those spa sisters..!
Maybe I would make a bg story for them later on, about how they are adapting with the current situation.. ah well, it's still a long way..!

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codeyaha In reply to twilite-sparkleplz [2015-05-17 19:56:10 +0000 UTC]

lol oh yes glasses are a part of me they're always on even when I go to sleep! broken quite a few because of that xD ahh ok that makes sense ^^ sunny does seem to wear them when she's looking at things closely like reading or looking at blueprints. yay~! sunset is on a mission to save sunny. "this time I'm going to protect you-!" hehe how romantic~ or... maybe sunny goes away and sunset assembles the s-team as the new leader (and then the members meet for the first time ever *gasp* derpy! trixie! lol) and sunset gives them a new mission 'operation: sundowner, the california wildfire' save sunny and bring her home, yea!

hehe is there something on your mind about the movies? do you have a pressing complaint or something you want to get off your chest?

does sunny have fun teaching the s-crew things? I wonder if she has that kind of affection for her students or kouhai. hehe i wonder if sunny ever has missions where she requires a particular members special skills and takes one of the s-team with her. like if sunny goes somewhere and needs someone to gather information for her and not draw attention she'll bring derpy. or she's trying to infiltrate a corporation and she has luna come and play the part of a corporate business woman for her. or maybe she has trixie run diversions to buy her time to go in and out to complete her mission. 

ooo good point... if they did just get rid of the hitman then they might just send a better hitman or even multiple hitmen. random but do you think the s-crew would ever just randomly give sunset a hug? that'd be kinda funny... "uh... trixie...?" or better yet...! sunset hugging derpy and trixie pushing sunset off "no! hands off derpy!" and sunset just snickers "In a fit of jealous rage, the great and powerful trixie pushes off sunset shimmer mid-derpy hug" trixie: "It was not a fit of jealous rage!" >///<

haha that cafe is sounding better and better. performing octavia is enough to make me want to go ^^ 

oh wow windigo sisters? that sounds pretty neat ^^ 

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twilite-sparkleplz In reply to codeyaha [2015-05-18 00:24:23 +0000 UTC]

Ahahah.. well I never had glasses in my life so I wouldn't know..! But yes, those glasses are the most plain and functional glasses ever..! No fashion whatsoever, not even an agent's gadget.. ahahah..!
Heheh, so what kind of mission is that..? Convincing Sunny to live on..? AHaha..! But Sunset putting the S-Team together and accidentally reveals they're all part of the team is real funny..!

Well, not really.. I just don't want to be seen like an "idealist", since to each their own.. but to be blunt, I don't quite like "mainstream" superhero movies, the kind of movie where the people are extremely helpless and only those heroes who can save the day.. too much hidden propaganda in there.. so instead of the Avengers, I prefer the Dark Knight..
So if MLP:FiM (usual series, not premier or finale as they are kind of superhero episodes) is really going Hollywood with superhero thing.. well..

Anyway..! Well, isn't it a pleasant feeling when your apprentice succeed, and even exceed you..? Ahaha..! So yeah, I think Sunny is too having fun doing it..!
And yes, Sunny with a particular member of S-Team doing mission together sounds good..! Well, maybe that could explain my Derpy and Sunny drawing earlier..! Luna, as someone with authority maybe she could "infiltrate" certain classified agency and squeal information out of it, heheh.. and Trixie could be Sunny's companion in stealth action..!

So, yeah.. that's probably what they would do by "eliminating a threat"..!
Well, I don't really know.. maybe..? But to keep it secret, they only do it at certain occasion..! Ahahaha.. they can't just openly show affection to Sunset and fight over her..!

Well, the cafe still needs a lot of "renovation" concept wise.. so, yeah.. it's still long way..!
And yes, the windigo sisters.. the Ice Girls sisters..!

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