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"For the sake of science!!"Shipping and Descendant Warning :
Spike X Rarity(Nightmare pony) = Sparity(Daughter)
Pinkie Pie X ??? = Super Surprise(Descendant)
(Spifire X Soarin) X (Daring Do X Ahuizotl) = Aerial Ace(Descendant)
Big Macintosh X Fluttershy = Apple Eden (Descendant)
Twilight Sparkle X -- Top Secret -- = Alternate Dawn(Son)
Warning : This story takes place 100 years after Rarity dead. This story base on season 4. So anything that happened in season 5 will have nothing to do with this story.
Warning : This story's an alternate universe and is really crazy at times. Futa-spell or the magic that can make female pony impregnate another female pony doesn't exist.
Warning : a lot of 4th wall breaking and referencing. Sharing universe with "To Love God - To Love Mortal" but in the future and more crazy. *You don't need to read "To Love God - To Love Mortal" to understand this story. It's just have many Easter egg for that story here.*
If you confused about chronology of this story, You can watch this timeline to help you => vavacung.deviantart.com/art/Cr…
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Comments: 437
SomaShield [2015-01-15 00:10:40 +0000 UTC]
oh boy i cant imagine how many guys did he kiss <.<
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DragonLoverartis In reply to ??? [2015-01-15 00:07:47 +0000 UTC]
I'm guessing he's a son of the Doctor Hooves
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DerpyDewey [2015-01-14 23:53:24 +0000 UTC]
I wonder who his first act of science was on... if you know what I mean
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Nakomy-Chan In reply to ??? [2015-01-14 23:45:53 +0000 UTC]
I love how his just ok with that lol
-Even guys?
--YEAH FOR SCIENCE!!!
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Hayrros In reply to ??? [2015-01-14 23:45:19 +0000 UTC]
Then, Sparity turns the page and see Twilight's ID card :
Sparity:"I don't know you anymore..."
Alter:"But... for science :/ "
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nayialovecat In reply to ??? [2015-01-14 23:40:45 +0000 UTC]
Lol... how many times he had red-hoof on the face?
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Zenrix In reply to ??? [2015-01-14 23:36:49 +0000 UTC]
How much you wanna bet he had this on the wall with a couple other ideas and this is the one that the dart stuck to? Next he's going to say he has a GLADoS or Igor!
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Zenrix In reply to Zenrix [2015-01-14 23:38:21 +0000 UTC]
And wow, I was so distracted by the 'For Science' that I forgot that he's stealing personal information on a grand scale!
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Nikiren27 In reply to ??? [2015-01-14 23:33:26 +0000 UTC]
This is getting more and more awkward by the second.
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bico-kun In reply to ??? [2015-01-14 23:30:49 +0000 UTC]
Sure, science. That's totally the only reason.
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SwedishX25 In reply to ??? [2015-01-14 23:27:21 +0000 UTC]
... certainly Twilight's. I mean, "For science!" I guess.
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nyan-cat-luver2000 In reply to ??? [2015-01-14 23:26:06 +0000 UTC]
Sex???? *spits apple juice* o 3 o
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18moffitc In reply to PinkFluffyUnicorns24 [2015-01-14 23:37:00 +0000 UTC]
hrmm no I think he is pan
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Krisisis In reply to ??? [2015-01-14 23:09:43 +0000 UTC]
He didn't just steal her kiss, but also a lot of personal intel.
Even more reason to burn him! This time make sure he doesn't escape!
btw, he shouldn't give this book away that easily. In the wrong hands this can course a lot of harm.
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JoeEngland In reply to ??? [2015-01-14 23:07:44 +0000 UTC]
Y'know... that actually is kind of a severe violation of privacy. More than just kissing a complete stranger, even! There's a reason why medical records are generally guarded and "Doctor-Patient Confidentiality" is a thing. People aren't always comfortable with others knowing everything about their bodies. This guy seems to have a much more severe version of Twilight's early naivete, and I'm surprised she hasn't reined him in by now!
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Wolfspirit7295 In reply to JoeEngland [2015-01-14 23:30:17 +0000 UTC]
He may be a licensed doctor being as he said being able to heal and maybe regroup limbs n stuff😋
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JoeEngland In reply to Wolfspirit7295 [2015-01-15 05:53:23 +0000 UTC]
That's really no excuse. As I understand it, Doctor-Patient Confidentiality exists between a particular doctor working with a consenting patient who has knowingly placed trust in them. It's regarded as a "special relationship," such as that which exists between priests and confessors or attorneys and clients. At least, that's according to the articles I've looked up. In fact, it's built into the Hippocratic Oath.
"I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know...
"I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm."
Just being a doctor doesn't give one the right to collect every shred of physical information from somebody without their permission. I'm sure there must be exceptions, such as when someone is in need of immediate medical attention because of an accident or something. But I'm also pretty certain that a medical license and curiosity aren't enough to warrant a full-body scan on a complete stranger. This is simply an abuse of power, to say nothing of assault.
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kitsychan In reply to ??? [2015-01-14 23:06:48 +0000 UTC]
how long till the much easier then having sex, part hits her brain?
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RainbowBlast124 In reply to ??? [2015-01-14 23:06:31 +0000 UTC]
Why can't he just get DNA Examples like a piece of mane?
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Stevie-Bond In reply to ??? [2015-01-14 22:58:25 +0000 UTC]
HAHA, well of course it would be for science!
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Daiskida In reply to ??? [2015-01-14 22:53:00 +0000 UTC]
The explanation is still silly no matter how much you try to explain it. Also, Maregatron and Optimus? Really? Then again, I'm reminded that this comic functions on either referencing really bad mangas/animes, throwing Pokemon references, game references or making Twilight a Mary Sue. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, I truly am, but is there any shred of honest comedy here or something remotely good? I'm not asking the author, but the audience. Please, do answer this question on what's even remotely good about this comic, besides the very well made art.
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vavacung In reply to Daiskida [2015-01-15 00:29:04 +0000 UTC]
I will pretend that I don't see this comment. No. I will not fight this. Not anymore......
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Daiskida In reply to vavacung [2015-01-15 01:10:50 +0000 UTC]
Very well, I ain't gonna press on or pick fights with you over this. But hey, me disliking it aside still wish you best of luck on continuing this comic as well as getting more people interested in it ^^
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bico-kun In reply to Daiskida [2015-01-14 23:29:26 +0000 UTC]
Yeah. References are funny. Also, what about this particular comic makes Twilight a Mary Sue? There hasn't even been a conflict involving her to judge whether she's a Mary Sue. Or are you just throwing around buzzwords randomly to justify not liking the comic? You know you don't have to do that. Liking things is subjective opinion and needs no rationalizations.
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Daiskida In reply to bico-kun [2015-01-14 23:38:41 +0000 UTC]
I said it once and I'll say it again. References are not funny, all it is pointing at something existing and going "Laugh at this" and that's about it. An well, why is Twilight a Mary Sue in this comic. Well for starters we see how she can do no wrong in this comic, instantly fixes any situation and is not only the "Princess of Friendship" but also the one who brought all species together to live in harmony. Furthemore, I can also bring up the page where she breaks down and goes "Oh, poor me! I'm loved by too many ponies! They don't understand how much I suffer! First I broke up with Flash and now if they find out about my newer lover, they'll hate him as well!" aside from this being a meta rant, this was a classic example of Mary Sue problem aka "I'm loved too much!" I'd say that sums up my explanations WHY Twilight is a Mary Sue in this comic.
So, I'm not really throwing buzzwords, but more going by logical explanations what I dislike about this comic. Should it cater to my desires? Not really, but I think I'm still allowed to point out the flaws I see. If people like it, by all means not gonna question their tastes, but gonna ask what is it they like about this comic and can they actually explain themselves.
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bico-kun In reply to Daiskida [2015-01-15 02:54:42 +0000 UTC]
References aren't funny to you. In literature this practice is known as an allusion, and it has a long and storied tradition as both a means of subtle comparison as well as humor. Shakespeare used references for humor. Homer used them. Just because you don't find it funny doesn't mean that it's not "honest comedy."
Also, your explanations aren't a good example of Mary Sueness at all. You point to a couple things that could go along with being a Mary Sue, but she is not one in this story. The major indicator of a Mary Sue is that the reality of the story bends over backward to accommodate the character. Her bringing friendship to other species doesn't do that since we already know that's her role in canon, she's had over a century to do it, and we have no idea how hard it was. It's just backstory to give an excuse to include more than just ponies in Ponyville. Her comment about everyone loving her was just that: a comment, and a bit of satire on some parts of the fandom's reaction to Flash. It has nothing to do with her character and we have no indication that it's really true objectively. The main reason that monicker is ill applied to this story's Twilight is that there has been no actual conflict involving her that would even let us know if she's a Mary Sue. All the conflict so far has been with Rarity and Sparity while Twi just sits back and serves as Ms. Exposition. There's absolutely nothing there to judge her on. Now, if you just don't like Twilight sitting there explaining things and not doing anything, that's fine. Just use correct terminology.
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Daiskida In reply to bico-kun [2015-01-15 08:39:17 +0000 UTC]
Please don't compare either Shakespeare or Homer to THIS, what they did was clever. All this does is point at something famous or know and goes "Laugh at this thing, because you recognize it", so no it's not honest comedy in any shape or form. Just low hanging fruit for some people, an references aren't just not funny to me, but people who actually understand WHAT comedy is.
She is a Mary Sue in this story and it's blatant as it could ever be, reality does bend backwards to accommodate her and only her. Saying how she brought all the species together, means that she's the one who did it and how her friends did JACK instead, and only SHE was the one who made it because she's SO perfect and special. An no, her comment isn't just a comment nor is it satire in any form, all it is the author using Twilight as his/her's mouth piece to rant on the fans,plus getting the facts wrong. An yes, it has to do with her character, the way she behaves makes her nothing short of behaving like a Mary Sue, and that's what she has been the entire comic. A miss perfect pony, who can't do no wrong and always finds a solution, was the one who brought all the species together (an please, don't gimme that excuse that it's only done to draw more than just ponies in Ponyville), and is suffering because "she is loved too much"
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bico-kun In reply to Daiskida [2015-01-15 11:57:26 +0000 UTC]
First, you miss my point that references aren't automatically not comedy. Second, obviously plenty of people do find it funny. That you don't find it funny is your opinion. Don't try to make it an objective fact that it's not "honest comedy." You apparently don't understand what comedy is if you can't understand why people who aren't you might find this amusing.
You also obviously don't understand what a Mary Sue is. You seem to be using the interpretation of Mary Sue as "protagonist you don't like." Except, of course, that Twilight is not even the protagonist of this story; she's a supporting character explaining the new Ponyville to one of the actual protagonists, Rarity. The fact that she's not a protagonist is actually a big reason she can't be a Mary Sue. The story does not revolve around her at all. That she's an important and powerful character in universe means nothing if she's not central to the plot. All your claims of Mary Sue traits only work with your apparent headcanon of events that happen totally offscreen in the past. Oh, she says she brought friendship to nonponies (just like the other Princesses are said to have done within Equestria, so not exactly a unique trait, here), so of course she had to do it all by herself in some completely implausible way even though it's never explained how it happened, how long it took, who also participated, or what kind of difficulties there were. Oh, because she made an offhand comment/in-joke about having stalkers who would drive off her boyfriend (which actually happens to real life celebrities, by the way, so again not exactly that surprising), then obviously every single being in the world must love her. No way that these can just be offhand comments that don't give you the whole picture and are from the egocentric perspective of one pony. It sounds like you're reading way too much into things, not to mention taking certain things too personally and deciding that you being insulted by a little poke at certain waifu-obsessed fans translates to Mary Sue traits. I mean, you say she's been "a miss perfect pony, who can't do no wrong and always finds a solution..." Well... what big problems has she actually had to solve here? She's giving Rarity a tour. She hasn't run into any antagonists. There's been no conflict. What kind of screw ups would you even expect her to make in this situation? What problem was there that she shouldn't have been able to find a solution for so far?
Seriously, if you don't like Twilight's character in this comic, then that's fine. It's your opinion. She's pretty in-character to the show, though, so I don't see how you can blame the author for it. If you don't like the story, then that's fine, too. How about you not read it if you really don't like it, though, and leave it to those of us who enjoy it? Why spoil the experience for everyone by tossing sour apples? Saying a character is a Mary Sue is toxic and claiming that something isn't "honest comedy" just because you, personally, don't find it funny is insulting to those who do. Just stop.
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Daiskida In reply to bico-kun [2015-01-15 13:33:10 +0000 UTC]
No, it's not honest comedy, it's just pointing at something and getting a cheap laugh out of people, because they are familiar with it. It's the same level of "Comedy" as you'd see in those horrible movies like Vampires Suck, Starving Games, Epic Movie, Disaster movie and Meet the Spartans. It's nothing clever, it's just pointing almost a juvenile finger at something and going "Laugh at this!", so yeah I'd say I know a whole a lot about comedy, since I can least claim this stuff isn't funny.
An, let's see..Not being a central character: She's the one leading the whole nation, her friends are all dead while she's immortal, she did everything and course her friends just sat on their butts, because only TWILIGHT is allowed to do all this bringing species together shtick. Also, this that wasn't a comment or offhand joke, this was standing on a soap box and preaching (also, why the flipping hell should I care if this happens to real life celebrities), an no I ain't reading too deep into this. This is just insulting of the the author behaving like she has some sort of moral high ground, and yes it does register as Mary Sue traits, because said Mary sues always whine about how much they are loved too much. Last I checked, it would seem EVERYONE in this comic loves Twilight no matter what, and she course has a perfect genius Son. One doesn't need to have antagonists to show your character is a Mary Sue, nor not does one need to have conflict. Twilight has shown she is just a Mary Sue and nothing else in this comic, all is perfect in her life and her only "issue" is that she's "loved too much by all ponies and they wouldn't approve of her husband"
So, I'd say she isn't in character in any shape or form, this is just taking a flawed character from the show and making 'em perfect in every shape and form to suit the idea of this comic. Also, since the author put up this comic up, means it's fair game for criticism and not just simple praising. I don't believe I even once stated that nobody should enjoy this comic, hell I haven't even attacked anyone personally be they a reader or the comic author. But, I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to voice my dislikes. Don't like it? Well people in hell want Mountain Dew.
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bico-kun In reply to Daiskida [2015-01-15 14:19:24 +0000 UTC]
Being able to not find something funny doesn't make you any kind of expert at comedy, dood. It means this kind of comedy doesn't appeal to you, personally. Don't try to make your subjective opinion sound objective.
You're right, Twilight is not a character in this comic. She's exposition. Having a position of power doesn't make her a Mary Sue. Being popular in universe doesn't make her a Mary Sue. Even complaining about being popular doesn't make her a Mary Sue. She is not a central character to the plot. All she does is introduce characters and nothing else. You obviously do not understand what a Mary Sue is. Just stop using the term; it's unhelpful. How about if you criticize a work, you actually explain what your honest beef is with it rather than just use what amounts to a meaningless insult. It looks like your beef is simply that you don't like this kind of humor and you feel insulted that the author made fun of a portion of the fandom. Just say that.
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Daiskida In reply to bico-kun [2015-01-15 14:57:11 +0000 UTC]
Okay, I'll admit that references can be funny, but they are only funny when one does something with them. Take Spaceballs for instance, that random ass scene in the space diner where they reference Alien? That was funny, but not because it was a nod to Alien. Because it referenced alien, then subverted it by A: having the chestburster don a hat and sing, Loony Toons style. B: having the characters react to it in a manner that wouldn't be expected for the scene they just witnessed, and C: the inside joke of having the victim of the Chestburster go "NOT AGAIN!!!" (referring to the fact that it was the actual actor who played in the original Chestburster scene in Alien). In short, references work best when they aren't played straight. The problem is the author is playing it absolutely straight, ergo it comes off as less of a "Hey, here's a funny moment" and more "Hey, look what I've been watching!" Plus, since I'm not familiar with half of the material being referenced here, it becomes REALLY lost when the author try's to play it for comedy effect, since it comes off as straight and from what I've got from some people, isn't exactly subverting the original source material so again any comedy aspect is kinda lost. Also, if you're gonna use the word "dude", then please least spell it properly.
No, she isn't exposition she is the main focus (hell why couldn't we have say a different character be all the exposition instead of Twilight, but for some reason it's her) and yes being this popular and loved by all does make her a Mary Sue, and I'd say she is central to the plot, with how much the author clearly loves Twilight, an thus removing any amounts of flaws from her, thus giving her a perfect life and relationship. Specially how quickly she fixes every situation. Also,it's not a meaningless insult, but a statement that the author loves Twilight so much that she gladly removes any types of flaws Twilight displayed in the show. This is nothing short of a big love letter to Twilight Sparkle, making her flawless and perfect as possible.
An I don't feel insulted, I feel angry that the author has the audacity to insult people and somehow act all high and mighty about it, that doesn't make her any better and frankly who died and gave her the floor to judge people.
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Daiskida In reply to Daiskida [2015-01-15 22:14:41 +0000 UTC]
Okay, let me correct myself. While Twilight isn't a Mary Sue, she is VERY close to being one in this comic, because she isn't written well. She clearly has no conflicts (and please don't start that crap again, with her not having faced any foes or issues), and is pretty much is over idolized an over skilled in this comic, which are pretty much warning lights of a Mary Sue, and while that doesn't make her a Mary sue, it makes her poorly written in this comic.
So, with that said I bring my apologize for stating at first how Twilight was a Mary Sue in this comic.
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HansRod In reply to Daiskida [2015-01-14 23:13:23 +0000 UTC]
Cry me a river. This comic is supposed to be (till now) silly and lighthearted... and how dare you call an artist unoriginal and call bad at the stuff it's referring of?
"is there any shred of honest comedy here or something remotely good?" It looks like you don't like this comic. Nobody can or should do something to change that. You should stop reading it right now and be happy. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, I truly am.
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Daiskida In reply to HansRod [2015-01-14 23:28:36 +0000 UTC]
Well, I can call the references bad because it's not exactly comedy, it's just referring something know and going "Laugh at this", that's hardly can be described as real comedy and more people going "Oh, I know what that is! Hahahahaha...", so just because this comic is lighthearted and silly (which I'd question) I'm not allowed to call out the humor not being funny?
I don't recall asking anyone to change anything be it my views or even the author wanting to change the comic to suit my needs, however I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to critique the authors work, plus I'm just asking what people find so hilarious or interesting about any of this material. Hell, I'll admit that the comic started soft of interesting at first, but then it began going down. An if you want me to ignore the references or not finding the comedy funny, I can still point out stuff like Twilight being a Mary Sue, the whole meta rant the author put into the comic, the whole plothole of why Rarity self banished herself, or using the "RainbowDash is a lesbian!" for a cheap joke an etc.
So, with that in mind I do apologize to vavacung if I sounded harsh, but since he/she put this comic for people, I'm allowed to say my thoughts on it. He/She doesn't have to agree with 'em, or pay attention to 'em, since I ain't gonna force that at any point. An it's less about me not liking the comic, but wanting to understand what people like in it. I'll def will stop reading it, since I don't wanna start any trouble with the author.
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TheKillerShaymim In reply to Daiskida [2015-01-14 23:07:52 +0000 UTC]
I think you don't get it. Our definition of comedy is different from yours. I only find some references funny. But I'm sure that many find them hilarious. If you don't find anything in this funny, then it isn't funny to YOU. But it is funny to other people. So please, keep such comments about the comedy to yourself.
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Daiskida In reply to TheKillerShaymim [2015-01-14 23:30:52 +0000 UTC]
I still question how a simple pointless reference is considered "funny" , all it is is pointing at a know object/person/etc and going "Laugh at this", that's the basic idea. So, how that is funny is kinda a big question for me.
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TheKillerShaymim In reply to Daiskida [2015-01-14 23:33:18 +0000 UTC]
I'm not sure myself honestly. I only found some funny because they were funny in their games. Like the Fire Emblem one.
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Daiskida In reply to TheKillerShaymim [2015-01-14 23:43:09 +0000 UTC]
Correct, they were funny in their original material. But, say for sake of argument someone reads the comic and see's the Fire Emblem reference, and they aren't familiar with the series at all, so that "joke" goes over their head, but also if one does get the reference it doesn't do anything. Just does the same battle thing that are done in the games, which was very well made animation I'll give Vavacung MAJOR props for that, but it's not exactly funny.
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