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Warning : Celestia ♥ ChrysalisWarning : This is Alternate World, So our Changeling may not like any Changeling you ever know...
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Hahahaha, Shining Armor got punished for being the victim of mind-rape. -_-" (Sarcasm)
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"NOTHING hurts more then my wife's hooves of olve"
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sorry mispelled,i meant love,still getting used to the new keyboard...
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Poor Cadance with that crying face in the first panel...
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It's hardly fair to blame him for what he did under a changeling mind-control spell.
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Changelings still the superior race, and the superior choice.
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What kind of horseapples are you two blabbering about?
They are nothing but imitators. Copies.
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Better in bed, that defeats all other attributes.
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Better in bed? That remains to be proven.
Besides, what good is that if they can't do anything else straight without copying it from others species?
That's how failure tastes!
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Going with one thread.
Changelings are the superior military force as proven by the show and comics, even without copying.
Also I do not accept that the ability to copy is a symbol of inferiority, last I checked John Carpenter's THE THING would end the world if not isolated to the Arctic.
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Superior military force? And how do you judge that? On one single engagement like the battle for Canterlot?
Proven? :-D That proves nothing at all. How do you know the comics and the show ( if ever the two are on the same timeline, and that the comic are not actually a somehow altered version of the TV show) prove the Changelings are superior, militarily?
If they were superior, Equestria would have been conquered, but it was not. Not at the battle of Canterlot. Not even before the Mane 6 were born.
Which means the Changelings have no military superiority whatsoever.
Besides, not being able to create something on one's own is a weakness, making copying an attempt at compensating.
Making copying a symbol, a proof of weakness.
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Comics show the Changelings wiping the floor with multiple kingdoms through a combination of brute force and subterfuge.
The creators of the IDW comics clarified that the comics are canon.
Changeling military superiority is already proven by Equestrian history, also the Equestrian military has never had a victory to date.
Equestria was conquered, the resolution to that debacle was not through military means, rather through some bullshit that is panned by multiple critics because the writer wrote themselves into a corner with how much the Changelings kicked ass.
Copying being as sign of weakness is purely opinion backed up by nothing, the evidence is to the contrary with the list of fallen Equestrian civilizations.
Last I checked Celestia was soundly beaten and sealed in a cocoon where Chrysalis did stuff to her off camera.
The primary leader of Equestria can with authority attest to Changeling superiority.
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"The creators of the IDW comics clarified that the comics are canon."
Any link ?
"Comics show the Changelings wiping the floor with multiple kingdoms through a combination of brute force and subterfuge."
How many? Also, same as before, got any link?
Or shall I call the Shenanigans at this again?
"Changeling military superiority is already proven by Equestrian history, also the Equestrian military has never had a victory to date."
Source ? Link ?
Equestria never had a victory to date ? That's why they're still standing.
That's why it is not currently occupied, as of the end of the current season of the TV show.
How much they Changelings kick ass ... sure.
Remember Canterlot Wedding? The Changelings kicked so much ass that they've been defeated.
Not by military means? No, maybe not. What's the matter?
Can't deal with the fact that a simple princely couple was able to overcome them?
Oh, also, the said couple used their own magic, their own force, to overcome Chrysalis.
And since Mi Amore Cadenza is the Princess of Love, her way to victory wasn't exactly crowned
by epic fights like Omaha Beach or Bastogne.
Cadence just used her power. What's so bad with that?
The Princess of Love uses her power to overcome an enemy obsessed with conquering,
who didn't love anything, anyone else than herself.
It's rather perfectly logical.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Tiz6…
Hit the road, Chans. And don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more ...
So ... where's that so-called Changeling superiority, now?
Admit it: every time they attempt to invade Equestria, they fail.
Copying being a sign of weakness is not just an opinion,
it is a pure fact backed by basic logic and reasonning.
When you're not strong enough to create efficient things on your own, you copy.
So ... not being able to create efficient tools would be a ... strength, according to you?
Now, that is purely opinion backed by nothing.
Also, last time I checked, Chrysalis siphonned love from Shining Armor to power herself up and finally be able to beat Celestia.
If she were superior, she wouldn't have needed this power-up, this exterior source.
This is the testimony of only one thing: the Changeling's inferiority.
And Chrysalis, although being understandbly reluctant, would attest that.
Sure, she might have beaten Celestia. But hey, Celestia is not invincible.
Even the stronger ones, even the strongest ones of all can fail.
A cocoon where Chrysie did ... things to Celestia off camera ... in the TV show??
Right ...
You have a very wild and bold imagination, I must recognise that. :-D I kind of like the idea too.
The problem is, it is just that: wild and bold imagination. And nothing of what happened.
But since we're now gladly embracing the way of imagination, using this very convenient "off camera" thing,
I could venture in saying that the Equestrians have built space-ships and are exploring space.
See where it leads?
Oh, of course, you could say there's is no proof for that.
That's true. There's no proof for it. But no proof against it either.
Same for your earlier statement about Equestrian military track-record.
I cannot prove it false. But you can't prove it true either.
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Fucking google it. I'm not going to spoon feed you everything, IDW comics Fiendship is Magic.
I suppose you think if you simply don't look then the evidence doesn't exist, world doesn't work that way.
Equestria's use of Alicorn nukes is not a sign of superiority, its just faulty writing. The US military could invade Equestria and have the entire place dead to rights but the invasion would fail because of some magical blast resulting from Shining sticking his dick in Cadence.
The Changelings copy appearance, they do not appropriate capabilities. Good looks are not a strength. If you would argue it is then the Changelings use them better, a.k.a. to topple entire empires in a day.
Just because you state logic and reasoning doesn't make it so, its opinion.
The Equestrian military always loses and its up to magical Alicorn mcguffins to do the job for them, the burden of evidence is on you to provide an Equestrian military victory or so much as an example of competence.
The Eq military fails at mundane tasks such as guard duty throughout the series. That's proof.
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I suppose just because you think something is an evidence to your stupidities.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
Equestria's use of Alicorn nukes is indeed a sign of superiority.
It allowed them to remain on top. It is their own power.
Case closed. Next one.
The US military?
Dude, let's stay in Equestria, okay?
We were arguing about Changelings and Equestrians.
Just that.
"Just because you state logic and reasoning doesn't make it so, its opinion."
You can refuse to see where logic is plain, even it is shoved under your nose.
Just because you brand something as opinion just because it contradicts you doesn't make you right.
You should know, by now.
If you're willing to admit, that is.
"The Equestrian military always loses"
Of course, they always lose. That's why Equestria's still there, huh?
The burden of evidence is on YOU to provide that Equestrian military track record is as bad as you make it seem to be.
Invoking one occurence doesn't make a proof.
"The Eq military fails at mundane tasks such as guard duty throughout the series. That's proof."
That's an overly biased opinion. Nothing even remotely looking like a proof.
If theyr were such failures, and given that the Princesses can't be everywhere at the same time,
they need the common folk of the Armed Forces to hold the lines.
Since Equestria is still standing, it means they win.
THAT is proof. Not the gobbledigook you're so eager to pass as proof.
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You've basically written that the Equestrian military is superior because of its civilian government which consists of different variants of Jesus.
A military that requires civilians to do all the fighting is by definition inferior, they are purely ceremonial at that point.
The Equestrian military always loses. Why is Equestria still there?
Divine intervention. 6 civilians that saw a rainbow during childhood. Period.
Equestrian military absolutely fails at guard duty.
Sunset Shimmer.
Tyrek.
Twilight.
So ends your:
"If theyr were such failures, and given that the Princesses can't be everywhere at the same time,
they need the common folk of the Armed Forces to hold the lines.
Since Equestria is still standing, it means they win."
The Season finale of MLP showed us multiple realities where 6 civilians never saw the rainbow, the military had to fend for itself and they were utterly destroyed.
Except against Sombra but their downfall was in progress.
Remove the Princesses and Equestria does not still stand, if it is still standing it is under the banners of occupation.
In-show proof.
Game Over.
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"You've basically written that the Equestrian military is superior
because of its civilian government which consists of different variants of Jesus."
I said that or, more accurately, that they are much better than what people - you included, obviously -
are willing to admit.
Why? Because no matter the fact that their civilian authorities - wouldn't the Princesses also be Commanders in Chief, by the way? - are,
as you aptly put it, variants of Jesus, they can't be everywhere at the same time, every time something requires intervention.
In other words, no matter how powerful the Princesses are, they have to delegate.
And the ones they delegate to, the soldiers, the law enforcement agents, etc., are much better than first assumed since Equestria is still standing.
"The Equestrian military always loses"
You have absolutely no proof of that.
The Equestrian history doesn't revolve only around the Princesses or the Mane 6.
The formers, as rulers, are kind of busy assuming their roles (meeting with ministers, with foreign rulers, etc.),
and the latters also have also other jobs besides using the Elements of Harmony.
Sunset Shimmer? Tirek? Well, that makes just two failures.
Just because a country has been invaded twice doesn't make the military forces of this country the weakest ever.
Otherwise, by this flawed logic, Twilight messing up a spell would make her the worst magician ever.
Which she is clearly not.
(Why do you include Twilight in the enemies of Equestria?
In which episode do you see that? (I've just watched the "Party pooped" episode.
But I don't mind things being spoiled to me.).)
So what I said earlier still stands,
and is in not ended in any way.
Once again, the multiple realities shown in the last episode - I've heard and read about it -,
no matter how mutliple they are, are not ALL the possible realities.
Saying otherwise would be saying each and every single one of the other realities would have them whether annexed as part of another country or State, or occupied.
You have no way of prooving that for the realities other than the 6 ones seen in the episode.
So this is blatantly biased.
Ergo, most likely false.
I do not say the Equestrian military are always victorious. I just say they are more victorious than what is first assumed.
Besides, if we are to take that path, what worth would be the Changelings without their leader?
Nothing. Does that make the Changeling military weak? No. Not at all.
So, sorry to say that to you, but this is not in-show proof, this is in-show bias.
Now, the game is over.
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Oh my lord can you be more concise? Fuck.
Equestria still standing doesn't prove the military's prowess, the military is steam rolled and the Alicorns intervene.
If you want to argue that the Eq military make superior speed bumps then I would have to concede, but that is not the case.
What you wrote does not refute my refutation, simply restating "Equestria still stands" won't change anything until you actually address what I wrote.
You state that Equestrian history doesn't revolve around Princesses and the Mane 6, oh but it does, every piece of lore revolves around them.
However it doesn't really matter seeing as you dismiss the comics, dismiss the show, what else is there?
It really does make the military the weakest ever when all those invasions are successful and Alicorns must be called in to resolve things for them. Again, speed bumps.
That last paragraph was absolute nonsense, all that writing basically amounts to "nuh-uh".
Go watch the episode, remove the Mane 6 and it is stated that every reality is worse than the last.
That's not bias, that's just the show. You're done. Leave.
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Well, I don't want to be more concise unless unless necessary.
Equestria still standing doesn't prove military prowess?
Sure. Every country standing has a bad military. That's pure logic, aye?
The thing is alicorns can't be everywhere to take care of everything at everytime.
So they have to let the underlings do some work.
Some border clash? Or some smuggling to be stopped? Armed Forces.
Stay in denial how you want, but you can't argue with that.
Oh, come on. I didn't say just "Equestria still stands".
I bring some logic in that. I articulated some reasoning.
Yet, you do nothing to attack the reasoning.
You just repeat "Equestria's military gets steamrolled everytime" and other barely different sentences,
and you add a heavy dose of bias.
If you do not wish to see that what contradicts you is valid, fine.
You just prove nothing besides that you're a sore loser.
The Equestrian history, revolving only around the Mane 6 and the Princesses?
Were the Princesses always there? No, they weren't.
Were the Mane 6 always there too? Neither.
Did what we saw in the show is the entirety of Equestrian history? Debatable. Can't say no, but can't say yes either.
I don't dismiss the comic, even less the show.
I just dismiss your reasoning. Or, rather, lack of.
And the overabundance of bias.
All those invasions ... yes, right. They get invasions every week, right?
Surely you will say it is supported by the comics ... wait ... actually, it is not.
The last paragraph? There we go. I take the same pseudo logic to apply it to your idols, the Changelings, and you dismiss it as "nu-uh".
A bit touchy about that, aren't we?
Well, just try and learn how to reason, and how to come up with a real, sound list of valid points.
Dismissing someone's speech as "nu-uh", repeating "Your side gets steamrolled every time" isn't a valid argumentation, young one.
What you say is just that. It's just what you say. Don't try and twist it to pretend that the entire show proves you right.
Leave? Hmm ... no.
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and the sexier choice
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What kind of horseapples are you two blabbering about?
They are nothing but imitators. Copies.
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Not tonight, no.
And you?
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Well...technically....it wasn't more his fault than rather he was a victim of the causer who coincidentally forgot.
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Love Celestia in the background mad at Chrissy
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I'm surprised Cadence only slapped him on the face, i thought it would be worse.
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Oh. I thought it was something else.
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^_^' At least everything is back to normal on a wedding day.
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*sigh*
You know, I should be laughing, but that fact is anime burned out my ability to enjoy the "guy gets beat by girl for thing that is clearly not his fault." Got too old for me. But yeah, Chryssi panicking is still funny.
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I just don't know what when wrong. XP
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Its been overplayed and slowly became viewed as a form of abused, since it is more or less domestic violence
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First!!! Also I love how Celestia's all pissed in the Background and then Chyrssi's Like I'm Sorry! xD
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