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Published: 2012-03-15 01:24:46 +0000 UTC; Views: 2781; Favourites: 78; Downloads: 36
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Description Some of you might find this distasteful. If you do, you should know I do not care what you think. If you comment and say anything negative (that is, NOT constructive and insightful/helpful) I'll block you, period, end of story, buh-bye.
Also, this is the last PRE I'll be doing... for a while. No foal image or anything for this guy (I don't feel bad shirking him since I wasn't even supposed to do him )

anyhoo.


STATS

Name: FS Itzio de Dragón (VERY roughly: "stone of the dragon", you know, like a pearl…?)
Age: 5 years old here
Gender: Stud Colt

Breed: PRE
Discipline: Dressage prospect, eventually Haute Ecole
Registered With: pending HARPG, Iberian-Registry, IPHPS, HARPG-Generations
Height: 16 hands
Build: Will be robust like his parents.
Color: Amber Pearl, gorgeous, varied color from points to main body.
Markings: Thin, long star, and four low coronets.
Genotype: Ee/Aa/cprlcprl
Passable Traits: All offspring will be pearl carriers. Pearl only shows if homozygous or combined with a Cream gene. Any base color is possible. We've had him genetically tested for every known genetic problem in Andalusians/PREs, and he is negative (no intestinal or foot issues).

Sire/Dam: FS Espada de El Mito x FS Perla Negra
-------------PS Fogonazo x FS Al Bisera----------PF Black Whole Son x FS Al Bisera
PS Dillinger's Deuces x DD Espejismo---------------------------------------------------------------

Other: Called by either Zio or Rusty, because of his intense color, this colt shows his sire's shy temperament already. In combination with his dam's cool intelligence, we expect this trait to bring us the absolute best stud stallion we've ever had at Faridoon, and not only because of his color, but also because of the insane amount of talent that went into creating him. His parents are both prodigies, his grandparents were prodigies… His great grandparents were prodigies…
For stud/lease, and Offspring: Yes, please note me with req'd info: fav.me/d3qc8j1

I DO ask that you not bring any mare related to him (if any of the horses in his pedigree are in your horse's pedigree, I will not ok the breeding).

Stud list and fee He will have UNLIMITED FOALS. He is the ONLY stallion in my stables for which this applies.
Mares may be of any breed, realistic or not realistic doesn't matter to me with this fellow (just don't gore him or eat him or poison him, please).

His current stud fee is 5 OR a headshot breeding image.
1- Reserved for Faridoon, with FS Fahtime
2- Reserved for Faridoon, with FS Ora Quemo
3- Reserved for Faridoon, with FS Luna Dorada
4- out of WBS High Societe,
Breeding image: fav.me/d4sw2ng
Foal : (needs new ref) fav.me/d4sw298
5- with whitehorse1211's Sfs Winter Gal
Points
Foal: fav.me/d4t7o34
6- with LRS Alma Del Fuego fav.me/d4xcayw
Breeding image
Foal: awaiting fee.
7- with Tsuki-Taiyo 's mare, ?
Points (not paid yet). 2016.




*Whoa, wait a sec! I thought you always said before that you wanted the requester of the breeding to design the foal?!
I'm experimenting. I will still roll from 1 to 100 to allow for the chance of twins, and I will randomly choose the gender and color of the foal as well. Names and everything else are up to you still ^^
If I DO roll twins, I will keep one- you get first dibs, but I keep the other one, if it lives.









Stock was used for reference, many thanks to the photo artist, ElaineSeleneStock for sharing this: fav.me/d2y2d0o
Also, other artists were used, credit is given on the images (should be easier to read now too)
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Comments: 90

Niur-Tarow [2012-03-15 20:18:37 +0000 UTC]

Oh boy.. I'ma want a piece of him later.. oh yeah!

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WoozleT In reply to Niur-Tarow [2012-03-15 20:29:38 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome to him, he is Perla's son, and so, Black Whole Son's grandson ^^

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Niur-Tarow In reply to WoozleT [2012-03-15 20:32:11 +0000 UTC]

I saw that and went "asdlkajfs;dlfajs;dfalkjf;asldkjf!!!!"

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ellamax In reply to ??? [2012-03-15 17:45:05 +0000 UTC]

why would someone think it was distasteful and its beautiful btw!

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WoozleT In reply to ellamax [2012-03-15 20:29:04 +0000 UTC]

Because his parents are siblings lol, he's linebred

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AccaliaRose In reply to ??? [2012-03-15 10:19:17 +0000 UTC]

Theoretically, what would a PRE and Lusitano cross make? I know they are closely related breeds, but would the foal be registrable with either studbook? I ask because I am very tempted to ask for a breeding (waaaaay in the future) with this girl [link]

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WoozleT In reply to AccaliaRose [2012-03-15 14:01:50 +0000 UTC]

I'm not positive they're registrable in either book, but the cross is called Hispano-Portuguese, and you can still register them as Spanish Sporthorses ^^

My CF Tagetes is a Hisp.-Portuguese


Some people say the only difference between PRE and PSL is the location they're born in, however, there are some minor conformation differences I can tell, and I believe the PRE registry makes these differences as well

I'd still be open to it though

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AccaliaRose In reply to WoozleT [2012-03-17 22:53:32 +0000 UTC]

Oh ok then I guess I'll just plan on a Hispa-Port foal
It'll have to be way in the future however, since Cat still needs to enter more shows and grow some more before I intend to breed her

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WoozleT In reply to AccaliaRose [2012-03-17 23:42:13 +0000 UTC]

that's cool, he's always going to be open

perhaps, if you have a filly, we can cross our Hips. Porties

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AccaliaRose In reply to WoozleT [2012-03-18 00:25:46 +0000 UTC]

Won't they be related though Isn't he another Al Bisera baby? I'm not sure that would work because she would show up three times in the baby's pedigree...

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WoozleT In reply to AccaliaRose [2012-03-18 00:27:42 +0000 UTC]

OOOOH, just kiddin', no lol

It would be line breeding still, but it would be more distant in this stallion, though, I'd have to go actually go through and do the math to see the % of relation first durnit

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AccaliaRose In reply to WoozleT [2012-03-18 00:41:26 +0000 UTC]

[link]
12.5% + 3.125% + 3.125% = 18.75% Al Bisera blood, so actually not that bad - the percent comes out as genetically close as first cousins [link] which is less of a relationship then Zio's parents had (25% or half-siblings)

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WoozleT In reply to AccaliaRose [2012-03-18 00:44:40 +0000 UTC]

none too bad at all, hrm! also, thanks for the links, very helpful! i was taught a longer way to do it, not as easy or fun

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AccaliaRose In reply to WoozleT [2012-03-18 00:48:36 +0000 UTC]

Really? How were you taught to calculate it then?
And yes - this is now a plan of mine - ZioxCat baby and babyxTag

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WoozleT In reply to AccaliaRose [2012-03-18 00:49:39 +0000 UTC]

i don't even recall lol, it was a huge, complicated math formula i wrote it down because i know i'll forget it, it's long and somewhat confusing


heheheeee, i'm in on that plan too!

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AccaliaRose In reply to WoozleT [2012-03-18 00:53:04 +0000 UTC]

Probably the formula for calculating the percents - which are just given to us in the graph

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AccaliaRose In reply to WoozleT [2012-03-18 00:31:55 +0000 UTC]

right, I have too look up the percent of relation and see how safe it would be... I remember seeing something about this before, if I find it I'll send you a link

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mapal [2012-03-15 08:29:07 +0000 UTC]

I love the idea of the book!
I would maybe like to give a similar idea a go in the future? I'm getting a little fed up of FLS refs
Alsooo a very beautiful horse, that colour is just amazing

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WoozleT In reply to mapal [2012-03-15 14:02:44 +0000 UTC]

Sure, I don't mind ^^ I'm actually pretty sure I'm not the first person to have thought of it

And thank you, this is why I had to linebreed, I really didn't see any surer way of getting this result

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MinuteByMinuteFarms In reply to ??? [2012-03-15 02:23:11 +0000 UTC]

Can I just say I am so utterly jealous of your painting and drawing skills?

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WoozleT In reply to MinuteByMinuteFarms [2012-03-15 14:03:13 +0000 UTC]

thanks lol, don't be jealous!
i had good reference models

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RoseThornStables [2012-03-15 01:44:23 +0000 UTC]

Wow, he is beautiful!!

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WoozleT In reply to RoseThornStables [2012-03-15 01:57:40 +0000 UTC]

thank you ^^ his parents get all the credit

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xLadySadiex [2012-03-15 01:42:04 +0000 UTC]

What a gorgeous pic! I love how he's in a stud book thing XD

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WoozleT In reply to xLadySadiex [2012-03-15 01:58:00 +0000 UTC]

thank you ^^ and yep, i think i'm going to do all of my refs this way from now on

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Bright-In-The-Night In reply to ??? [2012-03-15 01:28:17 +0000 UTC]

I need a breeding with this horse. xD
I love his color

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WoozleT In reply to Bright-In-The-Night [2012-03-15 02:02:50 +0000 UTC]

Er, also, you do know the foal won't have his color, right? Pearl is recessive, you'd need a cream or pearl mare, and then there's still only a 75% chance of it showing, unless the mare was homozygous for cream or pearl (that's why i had to linebreed him)

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Bright-In-The-Night In reply to WoozleT [2012-03-15 02:05:01 +0000 UTC]

Yeah of course I know. I'm no expert at genetics but I know enough x3

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WoozleT In reply to Bright-In-The-Night [2012-03-15 02:14:26 +0000 UTC]

kay just didn't want you to finish and then not get what you expected! too much work!

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Bright-In-The-Night In reply to WoozleT [2012-03-15 02:23:12 +0000 UTC]

It's all good cx

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WoozleT In reply to Bright-In-The-Night [2012-03-15 01:30:54 +0000 UTC]

find a suitable mare lol, he's pretty much open for the taking. his stud fee is either 5 points or a breeding image right now

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Bright-In-The-Night In reply to WoozleT [2012-03-15 01:32:47 +0000 UTC]

I think I found the mare x3
[link]
I'll just give a breeding image. x3

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WoozleT In reply to Bright-In-The-Night [2012-03-15 01:38:49 +0000 UTC]

Listed, don't forget your breeding image is due by May 9, midnight ^^ I will post the foal as soon as the breeding image is up

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Bright-In-The-Night In reply to WoozleT [2012-03-15 01:44:56 +0000 UTC]

I'll do it right now ^^

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WoozleT In reply to Bright-In-The-Night [2012-03-15 01:46:35 +0000 UTC]

awesome ^^ your boy is gorgeous, btw, i just rolled for him

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Bright-In-The-Night In reply to WoozleT [2012-03-17 21:21:57 +0000 UTC]

Here's the breeding pic
[link]

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WoozleT In reply to Bright-In-The-Night [2012-03-17 21:24:42 +0000 UTC]

Gaw-jus!
[link] < Foal

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Bright-In-The-Night In reply to WoozleT [2012-03-17 21:33:01 +0000 UTC]

Thanks so much.

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Bright-In-The-Night In reply to WoozleT [2012-03-15 01:47:29 +0000 UTC]

Oohh yay

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